Sian Branson of Bluebirds Unite spks out & ask for all fans

This will sound silly , but you're saying in the history of this "Billy no bollocks" actually became "Billy big bollocks".
So , the people standing up now were too scared to do it before ? Who were they scared of ? Why aren't they scared of them anymore ?

This is intriguing !

Please can we keep this a sensible debate , no need to slag off others[/quote]

I don't know mate. I can only speak from personal experience, and I wasn't at the Muni meeting (I wish I had been though).

I tolerated the rebrand at first. It's only the systematic eradication of our club's identity since then (hardly ever wearing blue, lack of blue clobber on sale, scarf gate, Tan not compromising one bit, bluebirds rarely being mentioned etc) and then the vitriolic anti-blues on here that have swung me behind the Bluebirds Unite cause in recent months.

I think people's views have become more entrenched, everyone has given it time (which is sensible after any change) and are now pretty firm that they don't like the rebrand, and aren't afraid to show it.

I love Cardiff City, I hate bullies and I believe in standing up for what you believe in, so I've become increasingly pro-blue

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You tolerated the rebrand at first (hoping like all of us , it would be reversed). But VT's plan was to sell us in Asia (and that meant his "lucky" red kit").
I fully understand you , we're Cardiff City.
The bit I don't get is , why did we not protest last year knowing his aim was to make us play in red ? It just seems awful from me that we take his money then get to the promised land then say "Oi Vince we wanna be blue now".
I believe we are all different , and I won't argue with anyone on a message board , but I'm in between[/quote]

The persistent pro-blue chants all of the back end of last season (primarily after the Brighton game when Tan gave the red scarfs out) were a clear form a protest. Likewise, 'The Blues are going up' was a clear statement of fans preference.

Formal 'protests' or expressions of pro-blue opinion waited until after the season ended.

The problem is that Tan refuses to engage, and in that sense he is escalating the problem for himself.[/quote]

You make good points - pro-blue chants and definitely "The blues are going Up".

Will Tan engage ? Another good point. Will it do any harm to the club ? Sorry mate , but that is another point that has been mooted.

I don't know if VT will get offended (but I get the points where he expects us to be subsurvient)

I wish I knew

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

The meeting was called for everyone who wanted to see Cardiff playing in blue, I wanted it then and I want it now, and as for vocal support of the rebrand, I'm simply in vocal support of the club and what I feel is or was the best option open to them.

As I have said, it's not about what suits me, or we'd still be in blue, I have put the club before my personal preference like many other true fans.
It's about club and not favourite colour.

I think Gwyn that if you are pro-blue then now is the time to express that and illustrate in a peaceful manner why the badge, the bluebird, the colours etc is important to us.

You can see it too, the things we hold dear are slowly being eradicated. The club is more than a mere name, it has a culture and identity and it's slowly going.

Bluebirds Unite just want to peacefully express this (Tan won't engage-so what should they do?).

I have made my feelings known widely from day one, got no problems with Bluebirds Unite,just the way some of them let Sian down and do no favours for the cause, I have made many suggestions on how I would go about things, but protesting is not one of them, and I feel it will have a far greater negative affect rather than achieve any positive shift.Celebrating the blue and keeping it alive is important, but it doesn't need to be done in a manner that upsets or causes friction, especially among fans who want blue back, but like me don't want confrontation with our benefactor, a lot of us who have been through the bad times, never want to go there again.

Cardiffkid: I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life and you must do what you think is right.

All I will say is that my experience of life has shown one thing when it comes to total confrontation, and that is it's a LOSE - LOSE situation.

A "celebratory march" on our first home game in the top tier for over 50 years will be portrayed in the media as a "protest" against the owner. Mark my words! I know how the media works.

When Tan sees this on the TV he will be more bloody minded than ever and it will reduce / eliminate the chances of us ever turning back to blue under his tenure. He will take it as a personal insult whether it was meant that way or not (and that is another question which we will gloss over for a minute).

Dialogue is the only way with this man. He wants to be loved and cannot understand why, after all he has done for us, there are still elements of dislike / hatred towards him.

I just think that BU are going about it totally the wrong way.

He's refusing dialogue every time though mate.. If he's not willing to talk, what else do the fans need to do to have their voices heard?

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He's refusing dialogue every time though mate.. If he's not willing to talk, what else do the fans need to do to have their voices heard?

exactly !

Bu are the enemy within and are doing their utmost to destroy our enjoyment and our first season in the premier league.

so be it - just move on now...

Is anybody willing to explain the "Cardiff City Bluebirds" thing yet?

As I see it people want to stand up for the true identity of the club and its about time somebody did its well over due .

Any other fans of any other clubs would do the same .If Tan dont like it he should never of rebranded us for us all to just roll over would have never of happened.

Thanks for the money Tan and all the things that have benifited CCFC but not the rebrand will be Tans down fall never got why he did it didnt need to

This is the sort of question I'm getting at. You said "Thanks for the money Tan and all the things that have benifited CCFC"
, so where do we stand. Are we thanking him or hating him ?
I don't know the answer !

Both Tan has done a great job settleing a lot of debt and funding the club for that how can anybody not say a big thankyou.

On the other hand he got rid of are identity which lots of us were and are so proud of problem is some people can move on and go with Tan vision others like me feel the identity is the very core the foundations of the club its what the club means and I have a massive love and pride and passion for it .Tan got rid of it so I cant feel nothing other than anger and it comes from deep within me so i cant change the way i feel.

So yea thanks for all the money Tan and i do mean that but I will never thank the man for the rebrand i will fight for my clubs true identity back for as long as i have to cant be any more fair than that.

United we rise and divided we fall .problem is Tan has divided us fans so his rebrand was never going to work .

Here here I will be there

Sian Branson,


To put anybody's minds at rest:
The 25th of August sees a planned event taking place at Cardiff Castle from 2pm
It is a time for all city fans wishing to wear Blue & Unite,
to celebrate CCFC's history & identity as the Bluebirds.

We ask that all opinions be put aside and that you join us in a show of force to honour the Identity that will not be visible on the pitch.

As its our first home game in the premiership we believe it is a fitting tribute.

DO NOT ATTEND if you are planning to cause any detrimental atmosphere.

Abuse at other fans will not be tolerated, nor will foul language.

With the worlds media on hand it is imperative that all persons act respectful and conduct themselves accordingly.

Please turn up to show what being a Bluebird means to you.
This is our best chance to show a force that would still like the clubs true identity to be recognised.

This is a celebration of our
History - IDENTITY - Pride

This is not a Tan out March!

If anything we are trying to implore the club to see what this means to us.

We are grateful for investment and would like our home colour and badge to be rectified so that we are once again recognisable as Cardiff City Bluebirds - The Capital City of Wales football team.

It is our belief that if this were to happen then any future success at the club could be enjoyed by all city fans.

Please be there to show you care - Bluebirds Unite . CCFC

Could it be any clearer?

Could it be any more reasoned and polite?

All Tan has to do is to sit down with supporters Groups and listen. Not rocket science.

All this could be avoided if he'd just speak to the fans

And if he says to the fans "sorry but we are staying red"? Will they accept that? Naive.

Cardiffkid: I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life and you must do what you think is right.

All I will say is that my experience of life has shown one thing when it comes to total confrontation, and that is it's a LOSE - LOSE situation.

A "celebratory march" on our first home game in the top tier for over 50 years will be portrayed in the media as a "protest" against the owner. Mark my words! I know how the media works.

When Tan sees this on the TV he will be more bloody minded than ever and it will reduce / eliminate the chances of us ever turning back to blue under his tenure. He will take it as a personal insult whether it was meant that way or not (and that is another question which we will gloss over for a minute).

Dialogue is the only way with this man. He wants to be loved and cannot understand why, after all he has done for us, there are still elements of dislike / hatred towards him.

I just think that BU are going about it totally the wrong way.

You have to understand that not all of us want to love him the rebrand has caused so much hurt and sorrow for some us what else can you do .

We have held off and held off and said nothing all last season giving Tan a chance to re think instaed he went on tv and mocked what he called the old unsucssesful brand which added to the fire.

The man wants to be loved we want to love him for most part we do BUT for the rebrand I hate the man and if people now want to stand up for there club and its true colours then good on them leave em be its there right how they feel .

If it means Tan goes cos he isnt loved then so be it .Its are club and we all have a right to think what we want this is hurting me and many other peolpe we dont want to cause trouble just make a point.

If you agree with the rebrand cool but you have to have the same rule the other way around what did you expect everbody just say way hay the identity is gone cool move on come on its bollocks that was never going to happen and ypu no it .

Problem is why didnt Tan no it why? because he dont no a thing about football thats why he has created this mess no one else .

I f you like the red good luck to you .If you like blue good luck to you problem here is there is no middle ground its will go on and on with no end and Mr Tan caused it he never needed to to do it he has to now live with the backlash.

Any fan of any other club would feel the same so if someone wants to stand up for what they strongly believe in then how can you deny them of that.

Its one big mess that will come to a head sooner or later and that was always going to happen like it or not football is all about loveing you team and being proud and the club colours stood for all of that .Take em away and you are left with a lot of very pissed of people .

I don't know mate. I can only speak from personal experience, and I wasn't at the Muni meeting (I wish I had been though).

I tolerated the rebrand at first. It's only the systematic eradication of our club's identity since then (hardly ever wearing blue, lack of blue clobber on sale, scarf gate, Tan not compromising one bit, bluebirds rarely being mentioned etc) and then the vitriolic anti-blues on here that have swung me behind the Bluebirds Unite cause in recent months.

I think people's views have become more entrenched, everyone has given it time (which is sensible after any change) and are now pretty firm that they don't like the rebrand, and aren't afraid to show it.

I love Cardiff City, I hate bullies and I believe in standing up for what you believe in, so I've become increasingly pro-blue

I really can't stand the over playing of the victim card. We have all taken stick online over a number of subjects it is the nature of posting on social media. Abuse is some thing else all together and I'm sorry but just because you receive well constructed arguments against you position that DOESN'T constitute 'bullying or intimidation' it simply constitutes that your argument is flawed.

So stop hiding behind this nonsense.

Cardiffkid: I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life and you must do what you think is right.

All I will say is that my experience of life has shown one thing when it comes to total confrontation, and that is it's a LOSE - LOSE situation.

A "celebratory march" on our first home game in the top tier for over 50 years will be portrayed in the media as a "protest" against the owner. Mark my words! I know how the media works.

When Tan sees this on the TV he will be more bloody minded than ever and it will reduce / eliminate the chances of us ever turning back to blue under his tenure. He will take it as a personal insult whether it was meant that way or not (and that is another question which we will gloss over for a minute).

Dialogue is the only way with this man. He wants to be loved and cannot understand why, after all he has done for us, there are still elements of dislike / hatred towards him.

I just think that BU are going about it totally the wrong way.

You have to understand that not all of us want to love him the rebrand has caused so much hurt and sorrow for some us what else can you do .

We have held off and held off and said nothing all last season giving Tan a chance to re think instaed he went on tv and mocked what he called the old unsucssesful brand which added to the fire.

The man wants to be loved we want to love him for most part we do BUT for the rebrand I hate the man and if people now want to stand up for there club and its true colours then good on them leave em be its there right how they feel .

If it means Tan goes cos he isnt loved then so be it .Its are club and we all have a right to think what we want this is hurting me and many other peolpe we dont want to cause trouble just make a point.

If you agree with the rebrand cool but you have to have the same rule the other way around what did you expect everbody just say way hay the identity is gone cool move on come on its bollocks that was never going to happen and ypu no it .

Problem is why didnt Tan no it why? because he dont no a thing about football thats why he has created this mess no one else .

I f you like the red good luck to you .If you like blue good luck to you problem here is there is no middle ground its will go on and on with no end and Mr Tan caused it he never needed to to do it he has to now live with the backlash.

Any fan of any other club would feel the same so if someone wants to stand up for what they strongly believe in then how can you deny them of that.

Its one big mess that will come to a head sooner or later and that was always going to happen like it or not football is all about loveing you team and being proud and the club colours stood for all of that .Take em away and you are left with a lot of very pissed of people .

I think we are all well aware that there is a small minority who are against the rebrand. The trouble is that small minority can't get their heads around the fact that the MAJORITY view is completely opposite. You say you are 'fighting' for the club. Have you ever stopped to think that the vast majority don't want what you are fighting for?

Losing VT would be a disaster. For some reason some fans (mainly those of the BU inclination) seem to think that wouldn't be the case, but if we think back to the time before he came in we arrive at a High Court winding up order and that makes my blood run cold.

VT made a number of promises when he introduced the rebrand. He has been good to his word so far and I have no reason to doubt he will eventually turn all the debt/loans into equity and for the first time in decades Cardiff City will be debt free and able to compete competitively in the highest league in Europe.

We had to sacrifice the blue shirt to get there, but to me that is a price worth paying as the alternative was to sacrifice the clubs existence.

Sian Branson,


To put anybody's minds at rest:
The 25th of August sees a planned event taking place at Cardiff Castle from 2pm
It is a time for all city fans wishing to wear Blue & Unite,
to celebrate CCFC's history & identity as the Bluebirds.

We ask that all opinions be put aside and that you join us in a show of force to honour the Identity that will not be visible on the pitch.

As its our first home game in the premiership we believe it is a fitting tribute.

DO NOT ATTEND if you are planning to cause any detrimental atmosphere.

Abuse at other fans will not be tolerated, nor will foul language.

With the worlds media on hand it is imperative that all persons act respectful and conduct themselves accordingly.

Please turn up to show what being a Bluebird means to you.
This is our best chance to show a force that would still like the clubs true identity to be recognised.

This is a celebration of our
History - IDENTITY - Pride

This is not a Tan out March!

If anything we are trying to implore the club to see what this means to us.

We are grateful for investment and would like our home colour and badge to be rectified so that we are once again recognisable as Cardiff City Bluebirds - The Capital City of Wales football team.

It is our belief that if this were to happen then any future success at the club could be enjoyed by all city fans.

Please be there to show you care - Bluebirds Unite . CCFC

Could it be any clearer?

Could it be any more reasoned and polite?

All Tan has to do is to sit down with supporters Groups and listen. Not rocket science.

All this could be avoided if he'd just speak to the fans

So why can't the supporters groups sit down with VT and listen to him? What absolutely beggers belief with me over this is why the hell do you think an individual should shove £100m of his personal fortune into our football club and then totally abandon his marketing strategy?

It has been explained a million times why VT rebranded to red. None of us like it, but the majority of us understand it. Your head in the ground attitude to how the hell we are supposed to pay the bills is quite frankly breath taking and dangerous.

Fucks sake. Enough already with the amateur dramatics.

He wants a red shirt. I get it. But he has also let us play in black shorts and white shorts.
Why not blue shorts and socks, it would placate the majority. An olive branch to show the
fans he gives a f**k what they think. Has he explained why no blue option for the shorts
a million times? I must have been on vacation

Just hope nobody has a go at my son and mates if they want to wear their new kits.
We are all Cardiff so lets hope the bully boys remember.

A march? F**k that, I'll be having a few pints in the pub.

Cardiffkid: I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life and you must do what you think is right.

All I will say is that my experience of life has shown one thing when it comes to total confrontation, and that is it's a LOSE - LOSE situation.

A "celebratory march" on our first home game in the top tier for over 50 years will be portrayed in the media as a "protest" against the owner. Mark my words! I know how the media works.

When Tan sees this on the TV he will be more bloody minded than ever and it will reduce / eliminate the chances of us ever turning back to blue under his tenure. He will take it as a personal insult whether it was meant that way or not (and that is another question which we will gloss over for a minute).

Dialogue is the only way with this man. He wants to be loved and cannot understand why, after all he has done for us, there are still elements of dislike / hatred towards him.

Nail on head
I just think that BU are going about it totally the wrong way.

Something was done... People tried organising things & anyone who organised things were intimidated, bullied, "warned" and threatened....

The only people warned were those intending to throw smoke bombs on the pitch during a game and also cause damage and disrupt the game, the threat which was made by Macca was that he would bury anyone that attempted this, hardly a campaign of organised intimidation.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?

The meeting was called for everyone who wanted to see Cardiff playing in blue, I wanted it then and I want it now, and as for vocal support of the rebrand, I'm simply in vocal support of the club and what I feel is or was the best option open to them.

As I have said, it's not about what suits me, or we'd still be in blue, I have put the club before my personal preference like many other true fans.
It's about club and not favourite colour.

I think Gwyn that if you are pro-blue then now is the time to express that and illustrate in a peaceful manner why the badge, the bluebird, the colours etc is important to us.

You can see it too, the things we hold dear are slowly being eradicated. The club is more than a mere name, it has a culture and identity and it's slowly going.

Bluebirds Unite just want to peacefully express this (Tan won't engage-so what should they do?).

I have made my feelings known widely from day one, got no problems with Bluebirds Unite,just the way some of them let Sian down and do no favours for the cause, I have made many suggestions on how I would go about things, but protesting is not one of them, and I feel it will have a far greater negative affect rather than achieve any positive shift.Celebrating the blue and keeping it alive is important, but it doesn't need to be done in a manner that upsets or causes friction, especially among fans who want blue back, but like me don't want confrontation with our benefactor, a lot of us who have been through the bad times, never want to go there again.

Totally understand and respect your stance , maybe you could pass on your ideas to Sian and the BU committee, I think deep down we all want the same thing and if we all pull together then it's only going to increase our chances of returning to blue.

I wasn't there, but given that you are vocal in support of the rebrand, why would you have gone to a meeting if not to cause friction?[/quote]


The meeting was called for everyone who wanted to see Cardiff playing in blue, I wanted it then and I want it now, and as for vocal support of the rebrand, I'm simply in vocal support of the club and what I feel is or was the best option open to them.

As I have said, it's not about what suits me, or we'd still be in blue, I have put the club before my personal preference like many other true fans.
It's about club and not favourite colour. [/quote]

I think Gwyn that if you are pro-blue then now is the time to express that and illustrate in a peaceful manner why the badge, the bluebird, the colours etc is important to us.

You can see it too, the things we hold dear are slowly being eradicated. The club is more than a mere name, it has a culture and identity and it's slowly going.

Bluebirds Unite just want to peacefully express this (Tan won't engage-so what should they do?).[/quote]


I have made my feelings known widely from day one, got no problems with Bluebirds Unite,just the way some of them let Sian down and do no favours for the cause, I have made many suggestions on how I would go about things, but protesting is not one of them, and I feel it will have a far greater negative affect rather than achieve any positive shift.Celebrating the blue and keeping it alive is important, but it doesn't need to be done in a manner that upsets or causes friction, especially among fans who want blue back, but like me don't want confrontation with our benefactor, a lot of us who have been through the bad times, never want to go there again. [/quote]

Totally understand and respect your stance , maybe you could pass on your ideas to Sian and the BU committee, I think deep down we all want the same thing and if we all pull together then it's only going to increase our chances of returning to blue.[/quote]


And what makes you think I haven't already.

A march? F**k that, I'll be having a few pints in the pub.

good shout Ast but dont forget if certain people say something got to be done the lap dogs will follow

As much as I want Bluebirds Unites to succeed I cant help but feel the more they push the more he will dig his heels in.

Cardiffkid: I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life and you must do what you think is right.

All I will say is that my experience of life has shown one thing when it comes to total confrontation, and that is it's a LOSE - LOSE situation.

A "celebratory march" on our first home game in the top tier for over 50 years will be portrayed in the media as a "protest" against the owner. Mark my words! I know how the media works.

When Tan sees this on the TV he will be more bloody minded than ever and it will reduce / eliminate the chances of us ever turning back to blue under his tenure. He will take it as a personal insult whether it was meant that way or not (and that is another question which we will gloss over for a minute).

Dialogue is the only way with this man. He wants to be loved and cannot understand why, after all he has done for us, there are still elements of dislike / hatred towards him.

I just think that BU are going about it totally the wrong way.

You have to understand that not all of us want to love him the rebrand has caused so much hurt and sorrow for some us what else can you do .

We have held off and held off and said nothing all last season giving Tan a chance to re think instaed he went on tv and mocked what he called the old unsucssesful brand which added to the fire.

The man wants to be loved we want to love him for most part we do BUT for the rebrand I hate the man and if people now want to stand up for there club and its true colours then good on them leave em be its there right how they feel .

If it means Tan goes cos he isnt loved then so be it .Its are club and we all have a right to think what we want this is hurting me and many other peolpe we dont want to cause trouble just make a point.

If you agree with the rebrand cool but you have to have the same rule the other way around what did you expect everbody just say way hay the identity is gone cool move on come on its bollocks that was never going to happen and ypu no it .

Problem is why didnt Tan no it why? because he dont no a thing about football thats why he has created this mess no one else .

I f you like the red good luck to you .If you like blue good luck to you problem here is there is no middle ground its will go on and on with no end and Mr Tan caused it he never needed to to do it he has to now live with the backlash.

Any fan of any other club would feel the same so if someone wants to stand up for what they strongly believe in then how can you deny them of that.

Its one big mess that will come to a head sooner or later and that was always going to happen like it or not football is all about loveing you team and being proud and the club colours stood for all of that .Take em away and you are left with a lot of very pissed of people .

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As much as I want Bluebirds Unites to succeed I cant help but feel the more they push the more he will dig his heels in.

and the more they will drive other fans into being pro red rather than reluctant red.

I'll be there!
Along with a few others
BLUEBIRDS!

As much as I want Bluebirds Unites to succeed I cant help but feel the more they push the more he will dig his heels in.

and the more they will drive other fans into being pro red rather than reluctant red.

Thats a nonsense tbh. Anyone who is really a reluctant red is not going to change to a pro-red just because there are people wanting the blue back. Nonsenical really.

Both Tan has done a great job settling a lot of debt and funding the club for that how can anybody not say a big thank you.

On the other hand he got rid of our identity which lots of us were and are so proud of, problem is some people can move on and go with Tan vision, others like me feel the identity is the very core, the foundations of the club, its what the club means and I have a massive love and pride and passion for it .Tan got rid of it so I can't feel nothing other than anger and it comes from deep within me so I cant change the way I feel.

So yea thanks for all the money Tan and I do mean that but I will never thank the man for the re-brand, I will fight for my clubs true identity for as long as I have to, can't be any more fair than that.

United we rise and divided we fall, problem is Tan has divided us fans so his re-brand was never going to work .

Exactly how I feel brickyblue, thanks.

As much as I want Bluebirds Unites to succeed I cant help but feel the more they push the more he will dig his heels in.

and the more they will drive other fans into being pro red rather than reluctant red.

Thats a nonsense tbh. Anyone who is really a reluctant red is not going to change to a pro-red just because there are people wanting the blue back. Nonsenical really.

They are just looking for any excuse to do nothing, helps them sleep at night if they blame BU.

It'll be the boozer for me.

This march is a waste of time. A ridiculous one at that.

It'll be the boozer for me.

This march is a waste of time. A ridiculous one at that.

Great work, be proud of yourself