Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:18 am
GENERAL CHAT wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
He's looking a prat again.![]()
The only prat here is the ones abusing others for having a differing opinion.
But you're the one calling it an opinion when it's a fact we are not totally re-branded.
My god, you are not very bright are you?![]()
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:18 am
CardiffKid wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
No wriggling here, Tan has totally rebranded this club in my eyes.
So we are not Cardiff City FC any more then?
If we are, we are not TOTALLY re-branded.
Keep wriggling and squirming, I doubt many will agree with your "opinion" on this....![]()
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I love how people are like 'as long as we are called Cardiff City then we haven't been rebranded.
As if they wouldn't have accepted it if Tan had changed the name..of course you all would. You'd use the same arguments as you do now.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:18 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
No wriggling here, Tan has totally rebranded this club in my eyes.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:19 am
BigGwynram wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:BigGwynram wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:IN MY OPINION what Tan has done is totally rebrand the club. Disagree all you like, but that's my opinion.
Even lunatics have opinions, but it doesn't mean they are correct or logical, Hitler had an opinion of how he seen things, and most of us know that was wrong, opinions are simply that, opinions, facts and truth are far more relevant.
Comparing this to Hitler, now that is lunacy.![]()
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It's not lunacy, it's an analogy using an extreme example of someone having an opinion, but having the wrong opinion in most people's eyes, I think, and this is my opinion, that you are losing what little credibility you have ever had by being so dogmatic and blinkered, even when a fair minded knowledgeable poster such as castle Blue point out such facts, you still can't accept things.
It no loner becomes a debate if one party just can't accept reasoned factual detail.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:19 am
CjBluebird17 wrote:Yes cause you mocking people for having blue in the name isnt![]()
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:19 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
He's looking a prat again.![]()
The only prat here is the ones abusing others for having a differing opinion.
But you're the one calling it an opinion when it's a fact we are not totally re-branded.
My god, you are not very bright are you?![]()
In my eyes, it is. Jesus Christ.![]()
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:20 am
BigGwynram wrote:It's not lunacy, it's an analogy using an extreme example of someone having an opinion, but having the wrong opinion in most people's eyes, I think, and this is my opinion, that you are losing what little credibility you have ever had by being so dogmatic and blinkered, even when a fair minded knowledgeable poster such as castle Blue point out such facts, you still can't accept things.
It no loner becomes a debate if one party just can't accept reasoned factual detail.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:20 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Yes cause you mocking people for having blue in the name isnt![]()
Where have I mocked? I've just questioned why its in his name, seeing as he has total disregard for its meaning to CCFC..
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:21 am
castleblue wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
No wriggling here, Tan has totally rebranded this club in my eyes.
Now Barry is it a "Total" re-brand or is it a "Pretty Total" re-brand, you've actually used both descriptions in this debate.
"Pretty Total" how does that work because surely something is either "Total" or not so using a word that contradicts another doesn't make any sense.
This is an important point because if your opinion is that it's a "Pretty Total" re-brand then your saying it's not a "Total" re-brand which makesyour original assertion flawed.
So for clarity what is your opinion - "A Total Re-Brand" or "Pretty Total Re-Brand".
By the way you do realise that "Pretty Total" is a oxymoron.
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:22 am
castleblue wrote:Now Barry is it a "Total" re-brand or is it a "Pretty Total" re-brand, you've actually used both descriptions in this debate.
"Pretty Total" how does that work because surely something is either "Total" or not so using a word that contradicts another doesn't make any sense.
This is an important point because if your opinion is that it's a "Pretty Total" re-brand then your saying it's not a "Total" re-brand which makesyour original assertion flawed.
So for clarity what is your opinion - "A Total Re-Brand" or "Pretty Total Re-Brand".
By the way you do realise that "Pretty Total" is a oxymoron.
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:23 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:BigGwynram wrote:It's not lunacy, it's an analogy using an extreme example of someone having an opinion, but having the wrong opinion in most people's eyes, I think, and this is my opinion, that you are losing what little credibility you have ever had by being so dogmatic and blinkered, even when a fair minded knowledgeable poster such as castle Blue point out such facts, you still can't accept things.
It no loner becomes a debate if one party just can't accept reasoned factual detail.
I couldn't care if you don't think I have any credibility. Believe me, the feeling is more than mutual.
I see What Tan has done as a total rebrand. You don't, simple enough.
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:24 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:BigGwynram wrote:It's not lunacy, it's an analogy using an extreme example of someone having an opinion, but having the wrong opinion in most people's eyes, I think, and this is my opinion, that you are losing what little credibility you have ever had by being so dogmatic and blinkered, even when a fair minded knowledgeable poster such as castle Blue point out such facts, you still can't accept things.
It no loner becomes a debate if one party just can't accept reasoned factual detail.
I couldn't care if you don't think I have any credibility. Believe me, the feeling is more than mutual.
I see What Tan has done as a total rebrand. You don't, simple enough.
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:25 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:castleblue wrote:Now Barry is it a "Total" re-brand or is it a "Pretty Total" re-brand, you've actually used both descriptions in this debate.
"Pretty Total" how does that work because surely something is either "Total" or not so using a word that contradicts another doesn't make any sense.
This is an important point because if your opinion is that it's a "Pretty Total" re-brand then your saying it's not a "Total" re-brand which makesyour original assertion flawed.
So for clarity what is your opinion - "A Total Re-Brand" or "Pretty Total Re-Brand".
By the way you do realise that "Pretty Total" is a oxymoron.
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I've already explained my opinion many times to you castle "blue". Please read it.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:29 am
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:29 am
GENERAL CHAT wrote:CardiffKid wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
No wriggling here, Tan has totally rebranded this club in my eyes.
So we are not Cardiff City FC any more then?
If we are, we are not TOTALLY re-branded.
Keep wriggling and squirming, I doubt many will agree with your "opinion" on this....![]()
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I love how people are like 'as long as we are called Cardiff City then we haven't been rebranded.
As if they wouldn't have accepted it if Tan had changed the name..of course you all would. You'd use the same arguments as you do now.
We have had a partial re-brand, Your argument is we have had a total re-brand.![]()
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:30 am
Overthemoon wrote:Anybody got a banging your head on the wall smiley?
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:36 am
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:46 am
Real_Blue_Really wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:CardiffKid wrote:GENERAL CHAT wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Chuckles will just repeat its my opinion over and over because he knows he's incorrect but wont admit it.
No wriggling here, Tan has totally rebranded this club in my eyes.
So we are not Cardiff City FC any more then?
If we are, we are not TOTALLY re-branded.
Keep wriggling and squirming, I doubt many will agree with your "opinion" on this....![]()
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I love how people are like 'as long as we are called Cardiff City then we haven't been rebranded.
As if they wouldn't have accepted it if Tan had changed the name..of course you all would. You'd use the same arguments as you do now.
We have had a partial re-brand, Your argument is we have had a total re-brand.![]()
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It is a 'total' rebrand in that Vincent Tan changed 'everything' he could legally change. Making it totalChuckles OBE is correct and still undefeated champion
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:47 am
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:49 am
toshacks_1_tales wrote:He hasn't changed the name of the club nor its nickname. The two most identifiable aspects of the brand. Hence no total re- brand. Opal Fruits and Marathon chocolate bars had total re brands. New name, new packaging change of marketing strategies etc etc.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:49 am
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Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:55 am
Real_Blue_Really wrote:The most idendifible image is that which you see at the game of football. And that image is the colour blue and white. The colour is NOT bound by language or education, It travels globally and absolutely. I.E. It is most identifiable.
In what way was Tans rebrand not 'total'? He changed 'everything' he could. 'Everything' denotes totallity.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:58 am
GENERAL CHAT wrote:Real_Blue_Really wrote:The most idendifible image is that which you see at the game of football. And that image is the colour blue and white. The colour is NOT bound by language or education, It travels globally and absolutely. I.E. It is most identifiable.
In what way was Tans rebrand not 'total'? He changed 'everything' he could. 'Everything' denotes totallity.
He changed everything he could, but there are some things he could not.
Not totally then.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:59 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Yes cause you mocking people for having blue in the name isnt![]()
Where have I mocked? I've just questioned why its in his name, seeing as he has total disregard for its meaning to CCFC..
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:01 pm
Overthemoon wrote:Anybody got a banging your head on the wall smiley?
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:03 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:I'd say he was trying to eradicate the "bluebirds" from the club. It's an after thought on the crest & it's stopped being widely used by club officials.
Club also giving away "dragon bags" to kids.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:06 pm
robinsonisgod7 wrote:Now seeing as we have had the pleasant arrival of some BU members (I'm guessing by the articulate responses which they gave, Polo and Nukes) I will ask the question again.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:08 pm
BigGwynram wrote:You'd say, but is that just your opinion...
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:08 pm
Overthemoon wrote:toshacks_1_tales wrote:He hasn't changed the name of the club nor its nickname. The two most identifiable aspects of the brand. Hence no total re- brand. Opal Fruits and Marathon chocolate bars had total re brands. New name, new packaging change of marketing strategies etc etc.
And Jif to Cif according to my wife!![]()
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