' This bluebirds unite march against Man City '

If you are pro blue, there is no reason whatsoever not to go on the celebratory walk.

I support Cardiff City. I never thought our opening day in the premier league, a day I've dreamed of, would be spent doing so in Bristol City colours, with a totally divided fanbase and with a knock off badge on our chests that looks like a dragon has shat out a bluebird.

I'll be honouring the premiership by walking to the ground and being proud of our identity.

Unlike others, I'm not ashamed to be pro blue. I want to support and engage with Tan, but he does not engage with anyone-therefore people have no choice but to show him how proud we are of our club.

I always had mixed views on Bluebirds Unite, but in recent weeks, reading some of the horrible, ludicrous and downright lies on here, I am increasingly fully behind them.

We need to be proud of who we are, not ashamed.

I hope Tan is offended, and leaves our once great club. You sell outs should be ashamed of yourselves!
How far is too far?

What do you class as a sell out

With every week that goes by this once great messageboard is getting to look more and more like a TV soap opera with the same storylines being run again and again and again. I've been on holiday for the last few weeks and now I'm back guess what the same arguements, not debates, are going on. Unfecking believeable and really sad to see this board reduced to this, but I suppose it's better than the tread asking if "Roath Tragic" should be allowed back if he only posts under the "Roathie" username.

I thought Bluebirds Unite was going to be an organisation that would be able to push for a return to our traditional colours but I realised that was not going to happen when I read the "Official Statement" on thier facebook page. The individual who wrote it thinks enough about themselves to say he "Doesn't want to debate" the issue which means follow me blindly in whatever I do and never question me. At that point I lost any interest in the group.

I suppose anyone if you intend going on this "March" you are happy with the message of "We Will Be Showing Who Cardiff City Bluebirds Are". I'd really like to know who the feck Cardiff City Bluebirds are as the "Identity" of the club I have supported is "Cardiff City Football Club". But hey ho this is BU and no debate is allowed so if the leaders want to "Rebrand" the primary identity of our club so be it because remember "There is no debate" with this lot.

Of more concern to me is that BU say "It Is Important We Turn Up And Set The Scene For The Season" . What the feck does that mean and exactly what scene are they intent on setting next season.

I'll be avoiding this group like they have the plague and the scene I will be setting next season is one where I'll be supporting MM and the team 100%.

Anyone want to join me in doing the same.

Count me in Castleblue.

Good point you make about "same arguements but no debates".

This thread started promisingly but unfortunately was derailed but the usual suspect (here's a clue to the culprit - )

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

When would you suggest would be the most appropriate time to march?

When VT goes scuba diving for some publicity shots, at the precise point he is submerging under the water, we can march for the duration of one oxygen tank. Soon as he's rising out of the deep sea we must all stop and disband like nothing had happened.

Everyone has accused me of derailing this thread, yet all I've done is ask questions.. Nobody can actually answer it either, at the moment.

Hmmm that's ever so slightly racist and discriminatory. But hey!

Racist, I don't think so mate. It is Vincent Tan that said that he had to deal with 100% democracy in the UK and all the rights it gives us fans.

As for discriminatory. The work ethic and commitment to their jobs is unprecedented.

At most I was being stereotypical.

It wasn't racist in the slightest. Just somebody mis using Politically correct language in order to stifle free speech. Bit naughty doing that to a fellow fan, Do these reds have any feeling for community?

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Like you did to me you mean?

Everyone has accused me of derailing this thread, yet all I've done is ask questions.. Nobody can actually answer it either, at the moment.

No point in having a forum if you can't ask questions

If you are pro blue, there is no reason whatsoever not to go on the celebratory walk.

I support Cardiff City. I never thought our opening day in the premier league, a day I've dreamed of, would be spent doing so in Bristol City colours, with a totally divided fanbase and with a knock off badge on our chests that looks like a dragon has shat out a bluebird.

I'll be honouring the premiership by walking to the ground and being proud of our identity.

Unlike others, I'm not ashamed to be pro blue. I want to support and engage with Tan, but he does not engage with anyone-therefore people have no choice but to show him how proud we are of our club.

I always had mixed views on Bluebirds Unite, but in recent weeks, reading some of the horrible, ludicrous and downright lies on here, I am increasingly fully behind them.

We need to be proud of who we are, not ashamed.

This! Top post!

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Like you did to me you mean?

Stick to the topic, this isnt about you so stop derailng the thread you bible bashing bully.

Hmmm that's ever so slightly racist and discriminatory. But hey!

Racist, I don't think so mate. It is Vincent Tan that said that he had to deal with 100% democracy in the UK and all the rights it gives us fans.

As for discriminatory. The work ethic and commitment to their jobs is unprecedented.

At most I was being stereotypical.

It wasn't racist in the slightest. Just somebody mis using Politically correct language in order to stifle free speech. Bit naughty doing that to a fellow fan, Do these reds have any feeling for community?

Sorry you're right it is stereotyping. Couldn't for the life of me think of the right word earlier, my apologies. But to describe and label all Malaysia as just being a subservient nation is a bit wide of the Mark and unfair.

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Like you did to me you mean?

Stick to the topic, this isnt about you so stop derailng the thread you bible bashing bully.

I hope that was meant to be said with irony! You still never provided a counter argument to my other posts, just tried to drag it into a point scoring match

Hmmm that's ever so slightly racist and discriminatory. But hey!

Racist, I don't think so mate. It is Vincent Tan that said that he had to deal with 100% democracy in the UK and all the rights it gives us fans.

As for discriminatory. The work ethic and commitment to their jobs is unprecedented.

At most I was being stereotypical.

It wasn't racist in the slightest. Just somebody mis using Politically correct language in order to stifle free speech. Bit naughty doing that to a fellow fan, Do these reds have any feeling for community?

Sorry you're right it is stereotyping. Couldn't for the life of me think of the right word earlier, my apologies. But to describe and label all Malaysia as just being a subservient nation is a bit wide of the Mark and unfair.

I was being positive towards them and not negative.

However, as you retracted racism, I will retract submissive.

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Like you did to me you mean?

Stick to the topic, this isnt about you so stop derailng the thread you bible bashing bully.

I hope that was meant to be said with irony! You still never provided a counter argument to my other posts, just tried to drag it into a point scoring match

Hmmm that's ever so slightly racist and discriminatory. But hey!

Racist, I don't think so mate. It is Vincent Tan that said that he had to deal with 100% democracy in the UK and all the rights it gives us fans.

As for discriminatory. The work ethic and commitment to their jobs is unprecedented.

At most I was being stereotypical.

It wasn't racist in the slightest. Just somebody mis using Politically correct language in order to stifle free speech. Bit naughty doing that to a fellow fan, Do these reds have any feeling for community?

Sorry you're right it is stereotyping. Couldn't for the life of me think of the right word earlier, my apologies. But to describe and label all Malaysia as just being a subservient nation is a bit wide of the Mark and unfair.

I'm not even sure it's stereotyping, He didn't decsribe all malaysians as subserviant. He suggested that VT is used to getting his own way due to the lack of democracy and a hierachal structure within malay society. which is colpletely spot-on, you can go to jail in malaysia for printing something without government consent. You can also be detained by the police without reason for an arbitary duration. And Tan is friends with the prime minister
I have always said that this rebrand goes wider than football, VT seems to be exporting his contempt for democracy, It's about defending what you believe to be great about the UK.

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I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Have to agree on this point,however I'm still waiting for him to produce the evidence I've asked for in my previous post.He suffers from the same selective answering as a lot of others do.But overall he attracts peoples displeasure not from his point of view but from the way he chooses to express himself.

Hope the march goes well, at least someone gives a f**k about our true identity.

Can I say I'm not against bluebirds unite I think they are at the moment doing a good job , I just believe this march is badly timed . Yes it will make huge exposure for them but it will also piss off the guy who ha saved this club from everything bad of the past decade . He deserves a bit more respect than being embarrassed on live tv in front of the world . A celebration or demonstration it doesn't matter it will still look like a group opposing tan himself IMO . Why not save it for a different day we should all be together celebrating our return to the top flight not separated with a march . That day is a day for every city fan to savour not to be marred by the rebrand .

When would you suggest would be the most appropriate time to march?

Very good question?

Any game apart from this one ! This is meant to be our big moment , the game we've been waiting for a home game in the premier league against one of the best teams in the world . This day should be about realising the dream everybody has had for years and celebrating together the teams achievements not marching against a rebrand .

And this was not a thread against bluebirds unite it was a thread about the march on that day . I think they only chose it because it will gain massive exposure but it will have the opposite effect , tan will be pissed off , sky will concentrate on that more than our amazing achievement of getting to the premier league and once again if there's only a few hundred we will be a laughing stock amongst other fans .

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Have to agree on this point,however I'm still waiting for him to produce the evidence I've asked for in my previous post.He suffers from the same selective answering as a lot of others do.But overall he attracts peoples displeasure not from his point of view but from the way he chooses to express himself.

I didn't see it. will reply now.

Chuckles your way out fella.In all the time I've been a supporter of this club there has never been any owner with Tans financial clout.Beore Tan took over this club there was NO_ONE(fact)interested and if any are willing to step into Tans shoes now I.ve yet to see it.I look forward to you putting me strait on this matter with your evidence.

I'm not way out at all. Nobody was interested at all in the past as we were in the lower leagues, big debts etc... That isn't the same now & to assume the interest would be the same is wrong too.

TAN HIMSELF has said he would leave it in safe hands.

You predict that there would be no interest "because there wasn't before". I predict that you are wrong, because the basis that "nobody was interest before" is flawed in my view.

I am not Chuckles biggest fan, but it just seems the easy way out for people to say he is derailing the thread as a cop out when they cannot answer his point.

Have to agree on this point,however I'm still waiting for him to produce the evidence I've asked for in my previous post.He suffers from the same selective answering as a lot of others do.But overall he attracts peoples displeasure not from his point of view but from the way he chooses to express himself.

As I said, im not his biggest fan, thats why i choose not to engage in debate with him but he was accused of derailing this particular thread when he certainly hadnt.

He was making points on the said topic so how can that be classed as derailing it?

Standing up and keeping our identity alive, crime of the century it seems. when I first started following this club, it was a feeling of real togetherness , one big family, now it couldn't be further away from that feeling, I just don't understand why people are being ridiculed for standing up for our identity it's shocking.

Standing up and keeping our identity alive, crime of the century it seems. when I first started following this club, it was a feeling of real togetherness , one big family, now it couldn't be further away from that feeling, I just don't understand why people are being ridiculed for standing up for our identity it's shocking.

Well said

Standing up and keeping our identity alive, crime of the century it seems. when I first started following this club, it was a feeling of real togetherness , one big family, now it couldn't be further away from that feeling, I just don't understand why people are being ridiculed for standing up for our identity it's shocking.

100% agree

If you are pro blue, there is no reason whatsoever not to go on the celebratory walk.

I support Cardiff City. I never thought our opening day in the premier league, a day I've dreamed of, would be spent doing so in Bristol City colours, with a totally divided fanbase and with a knock off badge on our chests that looks like a dragon has shat out a bluebird.

I'll be honouring the premiership by walking to the ground and being proud of our identity.

Unlike others, I'm not ashamed to be pro blue. I want to support and engage with Tan, but he does not engage with anyone-therefore people have no choice but to show him how proud we are of our club.

I always had mixed views on Bluebirds Unite, but in recent weeks, reading some of the horrible, ludicrous and downright lies on here, I am increasingly fully behind them.

We need to be proud of who we are, not ashamed.

Don't lie you've always been behind bu.

Its not a celebratory walk it's a PROTEST MARCH pure and simple and you know it.You've done nothing but slag fans of who are getting behind tans vision since you came on this Mb.
Bu are doomed to failure because of their bullying and the abuse they give vt and other fans.

If you are pro blue, there is no reason whatsoever not to go on the celebratory walk.

I support Cardiff City. I never thought our opening day in the premier league, a day I've dreamed of, would be spent doing so in Bristol City colours, with a totally divided fanbase and with a knock off badge on our chests that looks like a dragon has shat out a bluebird.

I'll be honouring the premiership by walking to the ground and being proud of our identity.

Unlike others, I'm not ashamed to be pro blue. I want to support and engage with Tan, but he does not engage with anyone-therefore people have no choice but to show him how proud we are of our club.

I always had mixed views on Bluebirds Unite, but in recent weeks, reading some of the horrible, ludicrous and downright lies on here, I am increasingly fully behind them.

We need to be proud of who we are, not ashamed.

Don't lie you've always been behind bu.

Its not a celebratory walk it's a PROTEST MARCH pure and simple and you know it.You've done nothing but slag fans of who are getting behind tans vision since you came on this Mb.
Bu are doomed to failure because of their bullying and the abuse they give vt and other fans.

Isn't that what you are doing now..?

If you are pro blue, there is no reason whatsoever not to go on the celebratory walk.

I support Cardiff City. I never thought our opening day in the premier league, a day I've dreamed of, would be spent doing so in Bristol City colours, with a totally divided fanbase and with a knock off badge on our chests that looks like a dragon has shat out a bluebird.

I'll be honouring the premiership by walking to the ground and being proud of our identity.

Unlike others, I'm not ashamed to be pro blue. I want to support and engage with Tan, but he does not engage with anyone-therefore people have no choice but to show him how proud we are of our club.

I always had mixed views on Bluebirds Unite, but in recent weeks, reading some of the horrible, ludicrous and downright lies on here, I am increasingly fully behind them.

We need to be proud of who we are, not ashamed.

Don't lie you've always been behind bu.

Its not a celebratory walk it's a PROTEST MARCH pure and simple and you know it.You've done nothing but slag fans of who are getting behind tans vision since you came on this Mb.
Bu are doomed to failure because of their bullying and the abuse they give vt and other fans.

Creating your own reality and presenting it as fact. Yet again.

Standing up and keeping our identity alive, crime of the century it seems. when I first started following this club, it was a feeling of real togetherness , one big family, now it couldn't be further away from that feeling, I just don't understand why people are being ridiculed for standing up for our identity it's shocking.

Well said

Exactly. Damned right, and I'm sick of reading about it.

Tan is a man, he is a business owner, he gets that you can't please all the people all the time, and he should get that in this country you need to engage with 'customers' and listen to their concerns.

I appreciate that everyone is not the type to go on a celebration walk, and I also respect that some people are actively pro-red, but I'm getting sick of these people who are actively slagging off City fans for wanting to wear Blue.

It's a totally ridiculous state of affairs. It really seems to me that a proportion of Cardiff City fans are totally ashamed of blue, totally ashamed of the Bluebird and want to eradicate it from their memory.

Well I'm not prepared to do that. I didn't put in the hours in the lower leagues for my club to turn into some sort of weird Bristol City plaything.

Just out of curiosity, but didn't the CU group have one of these celebratory marches last May 12 (Sunday)?

Why another one??

Just out of curiosity, but didn't the CU group have one of these celebratory marches last May 12 (Sunday)?

Why another one??

Yes they did.

Why not?