Tommy Robinson(EDL) arrested for walking

Barnett, i destoyed ukip once before with you on this forum. I have no need to again. If you cant remember, go through my posts.

Surely if you think my political views were passed down, why is it not the same with you?

Don't like the truth. Your version of the truth changes from week to week. Why do you think people think your a troll, its hardly suprising is it?

Welcome to lefty 101: In this class we'll teach you how to win an argument. If your debate or legitimate claims are full of shit, then proceed to abuse the other person. This will entice said person down to your level and you can then dismantle his argument whilst he gets agitated.

Craig, spare me the juvenile bullshit. Im 22 years of age FFS, not a secondary school kid. Your attacks on me here are nothing to do with this current debate, of which I assume is a serious one, or are you just spouting your lefty shite to cause an argument?

As for labour. As far as Im concerned there hasnt been a labour party since that idiot Blair took the reigns.

Fair enough and you've mentioned this numerous times. Who do you vote for though? Whats the big issue with stating who you vote for and your reasons why....

People are entitled to their own views but some on here exclude certain groups.

Be honest, how can you take somebody seriously who claims to hate extremism, yet defend the EDL?

Im not defending the EDL. Im also not going out of my way to attack them. My view of them is indifferent and thats on the basis that they are a product of a failing government and society. More a failing government. It'd be hypocritical of me to routinely have a go at the EDL because to them its the only tunnel they see any sort of light down because the peaceful tunnel has been closed off by inept governments and people with no backbone.

If the people called on the government to offer an alternative and the government actually listened the EDL would have had no reason to actually form.

Barnett, i destoyed ukip once before with you on this forum. I have no need to again. If you cant remember, go through my posts.

Course you did with no basis of argument just BS from politically motivated media outlets. Yes, im going to take what they say at face value. I mean, after all, its easy to trust said papers, said agencies isn't it, its not like Murdoch has ever lied. Who'd have thought it.....not like a Jewish media owner would have any political agenda is it? Oh we must believe him and his totally unbiased companies. Not like the government lied. GCHQ? They dont exist do they? Not working in cooperation with the NSA to spy on people in the UK.

Of course though Craig, I should believe these outlets because they suit your left wing agenda. No thanks I have a mind of my own and base my decision solely on a circumstance or a given topic. I could be liberal on one thing and conservative on another. I could support Labour in another topic and and UKIP on another policy.

Surely if you think my political views were passed down, why is it not the same with you?

Both my parents were Labour voters and I disagree with their viewpoints entirely and have told them why. I dont stick blindly with one political party. I see the situation for what it is, consider all facts, let them swirl around my head and then come to a logical conclusion based on the evidence of my findings.

Really not hard to fathom.

Barnett, i destoyed ukip once before with you on this forum. I have no need to again. If you cant remember, go through my posts.

Surely if you think my political views were passed down, why is it not the same with you?

Seems like barnet has destroyed you in this thread if I'm honest. Just my opinion though of course

When we sing oh England is full of shit.....I think of the EDL.

Thats nice. I think of the poor girls who get groomed by Asian sex gangs because our government doesn't give a shit and are far more interested in playing in croquet and eating £20 starters before the main dish than serving the British people. Lets just hope its never your daughter/wife aye.

There's been girls groomed for years down in Cardiff docks by Cardiff people your generalising I'm afraid.

Care to name them? Care to highlight the white British sex gangs who've groomed young girls down the docks? A lot of my family are from down that way so id really love you to come out with something clever here..... Go on, as you were.....

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Of course though, your next defence will be the institutional sexual predators like Saville who are white and were part of an organised gang who acted in such a despicable manner. The attitude 'well there are British people who are pedophiles so why cant there be Muslim pedophiles and so on?' is stupid.

Lets just hope your daughter dont marry a Muslim and gets hit around aye by him because of his 'beliefs'. You'd have an entirely different viewpoint if it was your own involved. How would you feel seriously, if your daughters were victimised in said way? Would you blame the teachings of Islam for telling him to act this way or the person for doing as hes told by his faith? Or should the blame lie with both the article and the perpetrator?

To be fair I havnt been around Cardiff for many years, but in the 70s I hung with the bad boys, drug dealers pimps safe crackers, so I have seen the under belly of our Capitol city.....as for the rest of your drivell, to be honest you sound a bit of a prick.

Off to london in 15mins for work funny enough ( west ealing area) some areas of it are like bagdad town center imo, does this make me racist for thinking this as we are driving to site going through diffrent areas of london, NO because its what its is in my opinion.

No it doesn't but the EDL ARE a racist group trying to defend them is like trying to defend the Taliban or Somalian pirates or the KKK

Islam is a religion.. Muslims the followers. They wouldn't be racist, they would be bigots.
All religion is shit.. Just another weapon to control the masses imo but the difference between Christianity and islam in this day and age is.. christianity is driven by faith, islam is driven by blind faith. You can question christianity, but you can't question islam.

Yes but they don't hate them because the are Muslim they hate them because of there skin colour as they target anyone who is isn't a white British citizen.

100 bullshit ,there are blacks in the EDL & stop making things up

He said before they were attacking European immigrants over jobs too not seen many black or asian Poles
these kids really have been taken in. Racism is bad, evil. But so are certain forms of Islam, and immigration is not ALL good for Britain. They are separate issues. But the powers that be didnt want people talking about Islam or immigration so they lumped it all in a bag labelled "RACIST"

To be fair I havnt been around Cardiff for many years, but in the 70s I hung with the bad boys, drug dealers pimps safe crackers, so I have seen the under belly of our Capitol city.....

This ain't the 70's any more sorry mate. Times have moved on.

as for the rest of your drivell, to be honest you sound a bit of a prick.

Typical political response. If you cant win a debate just abuse the other person.

Ever watched Question Time anyone? Always the same from the lefty bullshit brigade coming out with insults to try and ridicule others who dont fall for their very transparent BS. Happens to Farage all the time. We wont use facts and figures to defend our beliefs, we'll just abuse the shit out of you because thats a mature way to win a debate.

I mean, Labour after all are geniuses aren't they? They must all have maths degrees.

First they went and got the figures for the Polish immigration 100% spot on and then they went and balls'ed up the countries finances. We're just so lucky to have such intellectual people in charge of this country.

Dont vote for UKIP though or a party that has never had a chance. They're evil. The massively unbiased newspapers say so so it must be true. Not like a journalist has ever told lies before is it?

Barnett, i destoyed ukip once before with you on this forum. I have no need to again. If you cant remember, go through my posts.

Surely if you think my political views were passed down, why is it not the same with you?

Seems like barnet has destroyed you in this thread if I'm honest. Just my opinion though of course

Its hard to take him seriously when he changes his views so often.

Seriously, if you read the previous discussions we've had on UKIP and the EDL you would think Barnett is a different person.

He keeps generalising and stereotyping about "my kind" referring to lefties. Well of course I hang left, be a bit weird if I didnt considering Im a trade union official lol. Although a liberal leftie Im not.

Barnett is very excitable and tries to make you change your mind rather than just accept you might think different. That'll pass with age and experience.

To be fair I havnt been around Cardiff for many years, but in the 70s I hung with the bad boys, drug dealers pimps safe crackers, so I have seen the under belly of our Capitol city.....

This ain't the 70's any more sorry mate. Times have moved on.

as for the rest of your drivell, to be honest you sound a bit of a prick.

Typical political response. If you cant win a debate just abuse the other person.

Ever watched Question Time anyone? Always the same from the lefty bullshit brigade coming out with insults to try and ridicule others who dont fall for their very transparent BS. Happens to Farage all the time. We wont use facts and figures to defend our beliefs, we'll just abuse the shit out of you because thats a mature way to win a debate.

I mean, Labour after all are geniuses aren't they? They must all have maths degrees.

First they went and got the figures for the Polish immigration 100% spot on and then they went and balls'ed up the countries finances. We're just so lucky to have such intellectual people in charge of this country.

Dont vote for UKIP though or a party that has never had a chance. They're evil. The massively unbiased newspapers say so so it must be true. Not like a journalist has ever told lies before is it?

No it's not the 70s....but I have met welsh people that lived off immoral earnings...pimping girls out, lots of different races do it so you can't generalise...and I try to give my own experience rather than get it from Question time or the news.
You need to get out more...if you mummy will let you.

No it's not the 70s....but I have met welsh people that lived off immoral earnings...pimping girls out, lots of different races do it so you can't generalise...and I try to give my own experience rather than get it from Question time or the news.
You need to get out more...if you mummy will let you.

You say you have met Welsh people who do it but does that mean we should accept others doing it as well? i dont think so. Two wrongs dont make a right. You also seem to forget the police are a limited resource. If they're out stopping hate preachers and Asian sex gangs how the hell can they stop these Welsh/English criminals you claim are on our streets?

Also, nice to know I live with my mother. We must have one big bloody house if my address is at an SY post code and hers is at a CF post code.

Because I dont agree with you, im wrong, im trolling, of course you mr high and mighty are always right with the views everyone should accept.

More hypocritical nonsense. You disagree with his views so you dismissed them as 'passed on by his parents' a minute ago.

http://ase.tufts.edu/polsci/faculty/por ... Seiden.pdf

So is it not true that many are influenced by their parents? I suppose this research thesis into said topic is wrong then. Maybe you should phone them up and tell them that they're wrong and you're right. Im sure they'll be very interested to here the foundations for your argument. Im discussing with Craig here. I have agreed with him on many things but Im not going to stop bringing this up because I do believe, wholeheartedly, that he is full of shit. Why won't he divulge his political views? He knows fully well i'd tear his argument to shreds in seconds thats why.

Case dismissed. As you were....

You didn't read my post at all then. I never denied that it happens. Accusing someone of being 'high and mighty' when you have just condescendingly dismissed his views is hypocritical, ergo you are were being a hypocrite. Didn't think I would need to explain that to someone as intelligent as yourself

No time for that clown Robinson & co

But did that leftie/liberal scumbag who assaulted his fellow clown get arrested?

Both my parents were Labour voters and I disagree with their viewpoints entirely and have told them why. I dont stick blindly with one political party. I see the situation for what it is, consider all facts, let them swirl around my head and then come to a logical conclusion based on the evidence of my findings.

You really are a sort, what do you do for a living may I ask?

Both my parents were Labour voters and I disagree with their viewpoints entirely and have told them why. I dont stick blindly with one political party. I see the situation for what it is, consider all facts, let them swirl around my head and then come to a logical conclusion based on the evidence of my findings.

You really are a sort, what do you do for a living may I ask?

Im a computer science student - web design/app development/UI design/software engineering etc.

When we sing oh England is full of shit.....I think of the EDL.

Thats nice. I think of the poor girls who get groomed by Asian sex gangs because our government doesn't give a shit and are far more interested in playing in croquet and eating £20 starters before the main dish than serving the British people. Lets just hope its never your daughter/wife aye.

They are even demonstrating against these Muslim scumbags in this town

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... no-4749355

Both my parents were Labour voters and I disagree with their viewpoints entirely and have told them why. I dont stick blindly with one political party. I see the situation for what it is, consider all facts, let them swirl around my head and then come to a logical conclusion based on the evidence of my findings.

You really are a sort, what do you do for a living may I ask?

Im a computer science student - web design/app development/UI design/software engineering etc.

Good area to be going into.

It is good to have views, be proud of them and passionate about them but I think in time you will learn to just tone it down a little bit.

No it's not the 70s....but I have met welsh people that lived off immoral earnings...pimping girls out, lots of different races do it so you can't generalise...and I try to give my own experience rather than get it from Question time or the news.
You need to get out more...if you mummy will let you.

You say you have met Welsh people who do it but does that mean we should accept others doing it as well? i dont think so. Two wrongs dont make a right. You also seem to forget the police are a limited resource. If they're out stopping hate preachers and Asian sex gangs how the hell can they stop these Welsh/English criminals you claim are on our streets?

Also, nice to know I live with my mother. We must have one big bloody house if my address is at an SY post code and hers is at a CF post code.

I think your insane.

No it's not the 70s....but I have met welsh people that lived off immoral earnings...pimping girls out, lots of different races do it so you can't generalise...and I try to give my own experience rather than get it from Question time or the news.
You need to get out more...if you mummy will let you.

You say you have met Welsh people who do it but does that mean we should accept others doing it as well? i dont think so. Two wrongs dont make a right. You also seem to forget the police are a limited resource. If they're out stopping hate preachers and Asian sex gangs how the hell can they stop these Welsh/English criminals you claim are on our streets?

Also, nice to know I live with my mother. We must have one big bloody house if my address is at an SY post code and hers is at a CF post code.

I think your insane.

Good retort Dai. Nice one. #seemslegit

Seems to me they fell foul of the Ministry of Silly Walks

When they say you cannot be an 'extremist' in Britain, what they mean is, you cannot be a white one. You cannot speak negatively of Islam. Meanwhile, Anjem Choudary can speak and hold meetings wherever he likes. The only time that filthy c**t was ever stopped was when he wanted to go to Wooten Bassett. A sacred place for our nations war dead now. Why would he WANT to go there? because hes a despicable fascixt c**t. Arrest the EDL by all means, but for fucks sake stand up to the Islamic extremists to

Totally agree. Our country is far too liberal and full if do-gooders

Nuke the lot of them and leave us live our life in peace

You've got to laugh at some of the garbage posted on this thread.

Jesus wept.

You've got to laugh at some of the garbage posted on this thread.

Jesus wept.

With Mohamed's penis up his arse.

Cried a tear cos it hurt.

Seems to me they fell foul of the Ministry of Silly Walks

Ministry of Silly votes.

Vote Plaid whatever, speak flob and support the egg. Egg is good, football is bad.

I'm in London for a week or so, the Chelsea and the northerners Gareth Bale hotspur are a worrying. Three Welsh teams in the Premier, Us, them and Gareth Bale..

Anyone who likes the EDL is a f*cking idiot and doesn't deserve to live in this country we can all do without you racist bigots

Agree. Someone from this board was at a EDL get together on paddingtom this afternoon though. Up tp him of he wants to gove us an insight to his day?!

Anyone who likes the EDL is a f*cking idiot and doesn't deserve to live in this country we can all do without you racist bigots

Agree. Someone from this board was at a EDL get together on paddingtom this afternoon though. Up tp him of he wants to gove us an insight to his day?!

Someone off this board, name that person then maybe he will give you an insight because i want to see it on here, or are you guessing like other white caine waving posters

lets call a spade a spade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx5ZBeAYFGw

Police allowed this march. No counter-protest against it. These people were calling for the deaths of British Police and soldiers... right in front of British Police. UK go to hell??? Implement Sharia law etc etc etc. But this is not deemed to be stirring up racial hatred. Can any of our Leftys tell me whats ''acceptable'' about this march. One girl stands up to them, tries to put her point across and is threatened by grown men. Why is THIS deemed legal in Britain.... and these two fellers below get arrested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEI0TKkX9_o

Who is showing the most hatred/fascist/nazi behaviour, the EDL or the Muslims?

Who should have been arrested Craig?

lets call a spade a spade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx5ZBeAYFGw

Police allowed this march. No counter-protest against it. These people were calling for the deaths of British Police and soldiers... right in front of British Police. UK go to hell??? Implement Sharia law etc etc etc. But this is not deemed to be stirring up racial hatred. Can any of our Leftys tell me whats ''acceptable'' about this march. One girl stands up to them, tries to put her point across and is threatened by grown men. Why is THIS deemed legal in Britain.... and these two fellers below get arrested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEI0TKkX9_o

Who is showing the most hatred/fascist/nazi behaviour, the EDL or the Muslims?

Who should have been arrested Craig?

Again, why do you think I believe these marches by muslims should go ahead. Just because I think the EDL are idiots does not mean I support muslim extremists. Can you please get that through your thick skull.

NEITHER SHOULD BE ALLOWED..........

They used the guise of a charity walk for a very sick little girl to attempt to walk past a mosque. The charity they are supposed to be 'supporting' will not take any money from them, neither will Help for heroes. The EDL are bumpkins.

They used the guise of a charity walk for a very sick little girl to attempt to walk past a mosque. The charity they are supposed to be 'supporting' will not take any money from them, neither will Help for heroes. The EDL are bumpkins.

They had permission from the family initially!! Are they worse than the Muslims singing "uk go to hell''?

Can you give me a serious answer as to why the two EDL dummies were arrested and the muslim marchers weren't?

The EDLs very first march was "against the hate preachers'' and ''ban the mosques''.... hundreds upon hundreds of sweaty smelly students practically gagging to put their arm round a Muslim joined up to attack and stop the march and label them RACIST NAZIS for having negative views on a foul doctrine.

Yet THIS is ok in Britain, they can do this, they can say they hate everyone, they can wish death on our soldiers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KtJKNgO_ys

I think much of the EDL are racist and stupid, but what they called for in their initial march falls far short of what the Scum in that video want.

Do you agree?

They used the guise of a charity walk for a very sick little girl to attempt to walk past a mosque. The charity they are supposed to be 'supporting' will not take any money from them, neither will Help for heroes. The EDL are bumpkins.

They had permission from the family initially!! Are they worse than the Muslims singing "uk go to hell''?

Can you give me a serious answer as to why the two EDL dummies were arrested and the muslim marchers weren't?

The EDLs very first march was "against the hate preachers'' and ''ban the mosques''.... hundreds upon hundreds of sweaty smelly students practically gagging to put their arm round a Muslim joined up to attack and stop the march and label them RACIST NAZIS for having negative views on a foul doctrine.

Yet THIS is ok in Britain, they can do this, they can say they hate everyone, they can wish death on our soldiers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KtJKNgO_ys

I think much of the EDL are racist and stupid, but what they called for in their initial march falls far short of what the Scum in that video want.

Do you agree?

When you say Muslims you are talking about Muslins in general or the small minority who preach hate? That is what is confusing these chumps. They seem to think that all Muslims and Muslim doctrine is wrong. Well if they actually did research deeper they would find that they are in fact wrong. The Muslim extremists version of the Koran is far different to what is actually written in that book.