' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

A club in Cardiff would never 'just fold' FFS. At worst we'd go through all the shit and then be reborn in a lower league with a points deduction as a Phoenix club. Please stop this folding bollocks coz it's not happening. You must think I'm some deluded person who has no knowledge of business acumen. Nobody said its an easy option, it's in fact the complete opposite of easy but just because something is difficult it doesn't mean it's not an option.

I don't want that, I'd rather accept red and keep Tan investing. I'm quite aware of our history and proud of it in many aspects, not so in others.

Borley won't answer my questions because even he knows, as I do, the only way of blue returning is Tan going. He doesn't want Tan gone, I don't want Tan gone so therefore we're prepared to accept the red.

Tan ain't going to EVER LISTEN to BU. Tan knows we'd rather blue but he doesn't care. As already stated, acknowledgement doesn't mean you have to give a crap about something. Tan would have turned us back blue by now if he gave a crap. He doesn't. That's why he's rich, that's why he's successful and that's why he's rebranded us. Only his opinion matters and that's the way it's staying whilst he's running the club. The truth is hard to take but that's the truth.

I got loads of respect for Chuckles for at least admitting he would rather Tan out and back to blue. He knows the score.

Not quite true. The club would have the superficial appearance of being Cardiff City but like Swansea City it would have the suffix of 2002 (or in our case 2013) or something similar.

That might not mean much to you but considering the huge argument about history/heritage we would by definition be supporting a team which would have only a limited amount of both. Gone would be the 1927 history and our heritage of once playing at Ninian Park. To me that is far more of a sacrifice than losing the blue shirt for now.

Newport County is a good example of what that means. They play in Amber & Black but their Welsh Cup win, European adventure and promotions are achievements of another team as 'their' history began 1989.

Where did I say I supported Tan out? I mentioned it to prove a point. I'm a reluctant red riding out the storm. Option 2 and a Phoenix club would mean losing far more as you said. I agree with you on that. There's two options and forcing Tan out means we'd lose more. The only other option is to sit it out and see what unfolds. That's what I'm doing.

You don't have to be reluctant Red - Theres no such thing ! Stand up for what you believe in - You'll feel a lot better doing so.... 3-4000 members in less than 4 mnths will tell you that

Don't forgett we didnt put the fans or club in this postition thats down to others

FAO Sian (Bluebirds Unite),

1. Do you want Tan out?
2. If not, how do you propose a return to blue with Tan at the club?
3. Is the groups aim to push for blue back or to just keep blue in the know so if the bubble does burst it's an easier transition back?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, there is a lot of misinformation flying around, I just want to know the score before giving the group my full support.

Dear Mr Borley
Please don't tell me I wish to harm the Club I love and have loved for 35 years. I find your comments insensitive at a time where Our Great Club is under the strain of this Disease. If you are not part of the cure, your part of the problem, an infected germ in the Arteries of My beloved Bluebirds, I strongly suggest you pay attention to us now in order to preserve our health. were the anti BUotics come to heal
Blue Gee

Steve Borley has invested millions into CCFC over the past 20 years. How the hell can you describe him as "an infected germ" is absolutely beyond me.

I knew this Bluebirds Unite thing would get Hijacked by fans you only care about their own selfish preferences rather than the good of the club.

This KCB all over again

HAHAHAHAHA - Your attempts to belittle us really are amusing ?

Talking figures - How much has Steve made out of CCFC?
Im not really interested but making a point - You are using any way you can to get off the subject !!!!

History - Pride - Identity - Until that’s restored we have no option but to fight for it
- Welsh men / Women Never Yield or have people just forgotten that ?

Steve Borley has never made a penny out of CCFC and to insinuate otherwise is nothing but complete shit stirring.

Nice use of the victim card (belittling) but if you are going to succeed with your venture then you will have to do better than that as that is a very old message board trick.

Of course you have options other than 'fighting' (that is a terrible way of putting your point across)

You can lobby for a return to blue. From what I had heard you were a reasonable person willing to use all peaceful and non-divisive methods you could to bring about a revert back to blue.

You should be appealing to the middle ground fan who out number you by thousands. Talk of protest marches at games, fighting Tan putting the club into Admin will never appeal to us middle ground supporters.

But for some reason you think it will

Thank you very much :

Time scale - We already have plans in motion but will not release details until final conclusions are reached with the courses of action we are pursuing.

Ideally we'd like a resolution tomorrow. As stated above this will not happen?
So we will continue to keep going all season - If that is what we have to do in order to try and keep Cardiff City's TRUE identity alive then so be it.

Would be lovely to kick back and enjoy CCFC in the prem but unfortunately we have been backed into a corner.

Giving up and letting go is not an option, so it’s going to be an eventful season both on and off the pitch.[/quote]

What ever the BU are planing I just hope you don't attract any idiots to the group that will make you all look stupid, because that will be the beginning of the end, and after all the work you have put into it that will be a shame

Why can't Cardiff City give us one single logical reason for changing the kit to our team from blue to red? Why has no one in the board room said to Mr Tan, if nots broke don't fix it! We have a blue stadium, we are called the Bluebirds, we have an enormous history of wearing blue! We now play in red and black, still in a blue stadium with fans wearing blue, singing bluebird songs "the blues are going up" this will never stop! We will just look stupid on a world wide stage! Will this get investors interested? No! We will be a laughing stock!
Why change the badge? No reason! To help sales in Malasyia? Wtf do those fans bring on match days? There not even real! And insult to injury is some fans who are completely against this Micky mouse rebrand have said they might have accepted a red and blue kit like Barcelona, but Tan wouldn't even meet them in the middle?
Last season people put up with the change due to the performances on the pitch! Well next season fans will soon be rattled dhen were not winning our first 10 games at home! The change of kit as it is a complete distraction, causing unsettled fans to fight amongst each other! We will not be staying in the premiership with all this nonsense going on!
If Tan is a business man surrounded by people who know football, they better start advising him! Grow a pair! Before all his hard work goes down the drain!
What ever happens ill be wearing blue to that stadium after Tans reign! Owners come and go! Fans are forever!

SPOT ON

These are answers I want from you, Mr. Borley...

FAO Sian (Bluebirds Unite),

1. Do you want Tan out?
2. If not, how do you propose a return to blue with Tan at the club?
3. Is the groups aim to push for blue back or to just keep blue in the know so if the bubble does burst it's an easier transition back?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, there is a lot of misinformation flying around, I just want to know the score before giving the group my full support.

Thats not up to me but Mr VT - I dont believe we should be black mailed and I dont believe we should sell out our club simply to watch a few games in the prem - If we stay up and do well wont it be awful , when you don't even recognise the club lifting trophies -Hollow tainted success, terrible shame we have been put in this position because 1 man quite fancied a change - He owns 30 odd % its awful that he is pulling our strings. I dint start this - simply trying to give the fans who feel its wrong a voice. Proud Welsh from the Cpital City - That doesnt change bcos somebody throws some cash around

BU will not back down on fighting to retain the clubs rightfull - History - Hertiage - Identity - What ever comes off the back off that - comes -I believe we could reach a compromise that appeals to fans here and Malaysia if Mr Tan doesnt want to do that - How can I or any BU member be responsible for the end conclusion.

Its like being bullied by an older kid in school whose biggwer than you - would you tell any child to accept that for a quite life

You don't have to be reluctant Red - Theres no such thing ! Stand up for what you believe in - You'll feel a lot better doing so.... 3-4000 members in less than 4 mnths will tell you that

Don't forgett we didnt put the fans or club in this postition thats down to others

Very true you didn't (or did any other fan) put the club in the position where it had to accept the rebrand to survive.

However, the custodians of the club over the last decade have spent millions of pounds which we didn't have. That 'debt' won't go away because you 'stand up for what you believe in' and has to be repaid or all of our history/heritage/identity will be wiped out by either administration or liquidation.

See a lot of fans 'believe in' being debt free and having a secure future. The only offer on the table to put everything right was VT's rebrand and we have to 'reluctantly' accept that for now so that the club can basically 'sort itself out'

We won't be red forever I fully believe that, but we will for now.

What you should be doing (IMO) is being the voice of the fan to return to blue at the best possible time for both you/us/fans and Vincent Tan.

There definitely should-not be any protest marches or those ridiculous against modern football banners.

Thank you very much :

Time scale - We already have plans in motion but will not release details until final conclusions are reached with the courses of action we are pursuing.

Ideally we'd like a resolution tomorrow. As stated above this will not happen?
So we will continue to keep going all season - If that is what we have to do in order to try and keep Cardiff City's TRUE identity alive then so be it.

Would be lovely to kick back and enjoy CCFC in the prem but unfortunately we have been backed into a corner.

Giving up and letting go is not an option, so it’s going to be an eventful season both on and off the pitch.

What ever the BU are planing I just hope you don't attract any idiots to the group that will make you all look stupid, because that will be the beginning of the end, and after all the work you have put into it that will be a shame[/quote]

Who decides Whose an Idiot ?

So far 300+ and 600+ have managed to get together and be peaceful, there has been trouble at football for as long as I can remember - less in modern days. But BU will not endorse any disrupt to public peace or violence

Is that what you were getting at by calling people IDIOTS ?

You don't have to be reluctant Red - Theres no such thing ! Stand up for what you believe in - You'll feel a lot better doing so.... 3-4000 members in less than 4 mnths will tell you that

Don't forgett we didnt put the fans or club in this postition thats down to others

Very true you didn't (or did any other fan) put the club in the position where it had to accept the rebrand to survive.

However, the custodians of the club over the last decade have spent millions of pounds which we didn't have. That 'debt' won't go away because you 'stand up for what you believe in' and has to be repaid or all of our history/heritage/identity will be wiped out by either administration or liquidation.

See a lot of fans 'believe in' being debt free and having a secure future. The only offer on the table to put everything right was VT's rebrand and we have to 'reluctantly' accept that for now so that the club can basically 'sort itself out'

We won't be red forever I fully believe that, but we will for now.

What you should be doing (IMO) is being the voice of the fan to return to blue at the best possible time for both you/us/fans and Vincent Tan.

There definitely should-not be any protest marches or those ridiculous against modern football banners.

Nice to see your changing your tune after an hour of chatting

FAO Sian (Bluebirds Unite),

1. Do you want Tan out?
2. If not, how do you propose a return to blue with Tan at the club?
3. Is the groups aim to push for blue back or to just keep blue in the know so if the bubble does burst it's an easier transition back?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, there is a lot of misinformation flying around, I just want to know the score before giving the group my full support.

Thats not up to me but Mr VT - I dont believe we should be black mailed and I dont believe we should sell out our club simply to watch a few games in the prem - If we stay up and do well wont it be awful , when you don't even recognise the club lifting trophies -Hollow tainted success, terrible shame we have been put in this position because 1 man quite fancied a change - He owns 30 odd % its awful that he is pulling our strings. I dint start this - simply trying to give the fans who feel its wrong a voice. Proud Welsh from the Cpital City - That doesnt change bcos somebody throws some cash around

BU will not back down on fighting to retain the clubs rightfull - History - Hertiage - Identity - What ever comes off the back off that - comes -I believe we could reach a compromise that appeals to fans here and Malaysia if Mr Tan doesnt want to do that - How can I or any BU member be responsible for the end conclusion.

Its like being bullied by an older kid in school whose biggwer than you - would you tell any child to accept that for a quite life

Political rhetoric and beating around the bush just as expected. Why no straight yes or no answers? It's all getting a bit embarrassing to be fair.

It's nothing like being bullied at school. That bully at school is not funding the life of something you love, Tan is. It's a terrible comparison.

I'm all for standing up for what I believe I but Tan in this instance has the upper hand and the more mature approach would be to take his money and the short term benefits and then when he leaves (he won't be around forever) to restore our identity. Patience is a virtue and its one we must respect to obtain the best outcome.

Fighting an extremist approach with an equally extremist approach is not the answer. It just leads to more damage and hurt. There's no need for it.

Why can't Cardiff City give us one single logical reason for changing the kit to our team from blue to red? Why has no one in the board room said to Mr Tan, if nots broke don't fix it! We have a blue stadium, we are called the Bluebirds, we have an enormous history of wearing blue! We now play in red and black, still in a blue stadium with fans wearing blue, singing bluebird songs "the blues are going up" this will never stop! We will just look stupid on a world wide stage! Will this get investors interested? No! We will be a laughing stock!
Why change the badge? No reason! To help sales in Malasyia? Wtf do those fans bring on match days? There not even real! And insult to injury is some fans who are completely against this Micky mouse rebrand have said they might have accepted a red and blue kit like Barcelona, but Tan wouldn't even meet them in the middle?
Last season people put up with the change due to the performances on the pitch! Well next season fans will soon be rattled dhen were not winning our first 10 games at home! The change of kit as it is a complete distraction, causing unsettled fans to fight amongst each other! We will not be staying in the premiership with all this nonsense going on!
If Tan is a business man surrounded by people who know football, they better start advising him! Grow a pair! Before all his hard work goes down the drain!
What ever happens ill be wearing blue to that stadium after Tans reign! Owners come and go! Fans are forever!

SPOT ON

These are answers I want from you, Mr. Borley...

Someone hasn't been keeping up with the news

From my understanding the change from blue to red was about marketing in the far east? Same with the badge as the Dragon (along with the red) would have massive appeal to the Chinese and Malaysian's. That was the very credible logical reason given for the rebrand as the oriental fans are not overly taken with a bluebird (or blue) which is native to America.

I'm not saying he is right (although I can see the joined up writing) or that it is right to put Far East fans before South Wales fans but the fact is we have overspent for more than a decade now and something radical had to be done to pay that off and secure our future.

The very sad but unavoidable fact is you can't live for today when running a multi-million £ business and one day the chickens will come home to roost.

I would prefer a pragmatic approach which sees us accept the rebrand and recapitalisation of our club but seeks to spot an opportunity in the future where it is mutually beneficial for us to revert back to blue.

You don't have to be reluctant Red - Theres no such thing ! Stand up for what you believe in - You'll feel a lot better doing so.... 3-4000 members in less than 4 mnths will tell you that

Don't forgett we didnt put the fans or club in this postition thats down to others

Very true you didn't (or did any other fan) put the club in the position where it had to accept the rebrand to survive.

However, the custodians of the club over the last decade have spent millions of pounds which we didn't have. That 'debt' won't go away because you 'stand up for what you believe in' and has to be repaid or all of our history/heritage/identity will be wiped out by either administration or liquidation.

See a lot of fans 'believe in' being debt free and having a secure future. The only offer on the table to put everything right was VT's rebrand and we have to 'reluctantly' accept that for now so that the club can basically 'sort itself out'

We won't be red forever I fully believe that, but we will for now.

What you should be doing (IMO) is being the voice of the fan to return to blue at the best possible time for both you/us/fans and Vincent Tan.

There definitely should-not be any protest marches or those ridiculous against modern football banners.

Nice to see your changing your tune after an hour of chatting

Like wise

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I would prefer a pragmatic approach which sees us accept the rebrand and recapitalisation of our club but seeks to spot an opportunity in the future where it is mutually beneficial for us to revert back to blue.

100% agree and patience is a virtue. Rattling the cage now is an idiotic idea that will just bring more harm than good

Thank you very much :

Time scale - We already have plans in motion but will not release details until final conclusions are reached with the courses of action we are pursuing.

Ideally we'd like a resolution tomorrow. As stated above this will not happen?
So we will continue to keep going all season - If that is what we have to do in order to try and keep Cardiff City's TRUE identity alive then so be it.

Would be lovely to kick back and enjoy CCFC in the prem but unfortunately we have been backed into a corner.

Giving up and letting go is not an option, so it’s going to be an eventful season both on and off the pitch.

What ever the BU are planing I just hope you don't attract any idiots to the group that will make you all look stupid, because that will be the beginning of the end, and after all the work you have put into it that will be a shame

Who decides Whose an Idiot ?

So far 300+ and 600+ have managed to get together and be peaceful, there has been trouble at football for as long as I can remember - less in modern days. But BU will not endorse any disrupt to public peace or violence

Is that what you were getting at by calling people IDIOTS ?[/quote]

I think you know what I meant, Idiots will all ways be attracted to something in the public eye, BU will not endorse it "of course" but if something did happen on a march or what ever it wouldn't look good on the BU, all I said was I wouldn't that to happen after all the hard work you have done

FAO Sian (Bluebirds Unite),

1. Do you want Tan out?
2. If not, how do you propose a return to blue with Tan at the club?
3. Is the groups aim to push for blue back or to just keep blue in the know so if the bubble does burst it's an easier transition back?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, there is a lot of misinformation flying around, I just want to know the score before giving the group my full support.

Thats not up to me but Mr VT - I dont believe we should be black mailed and I dont believe we should sell out our club simply to watch a few games in the prem - If we stay up and do well wont it be awful , when you don't even recognise the club lifting trophies -Hollow tainted success, terrible shame we have been put in this position because 1 man quite fancied a change - He owns 30 odd % its awful that he is pulling our strings. I dint start this - simply trying to give the fans who feel its wrong a voice. Proud Welsh from the Cpital City - That doesnt change bcos somebody throws some cash around

BU will not back down on fighting to retain the clubs rightfull - History - Hertiage - Identity - What ever comes off the back off that - comes -I believe we could reach a compromise that appeals to fans here and Malaysia if Mr Tan doesnt want to do that - How can I or any BU member be responsible for the end conclusion.

Its like being bullied by an older kid in school whose biggwer than you - would you tell any child to accept that for a quite life

Political rhetoric and beating around the bush just as expected. Why no straight yes or no answers? It's all getting a bit embarrassing to be fair.

It's nothing like being bullied at school. That bully at school is not funding the life of something you love, Tan is. It's a terrible comparison.

I'm all for standing up for what I believe I but Tan in this instance has the upper hand and the more mature approach would be to take his money and the short term benefits and then when he leaves (he won't be around forever) to restore our identity. Patience is a virtue and its one we must respect to obtain the best outcome.

Fighting an extremist approach with an equally extremist approach is not the answer. It just leads to more damage and hurt. There's no need for it.

I fully agree James, I'm willing to back BU but I dont want it to come to losing the club itself. I have said all along I want to take everything Tan has to offer mainly the debt free and afterwards really push hard to get blue back which will mean removing him from the club unfortunatly.

I think alot of people dont realise for Tan to leave someone else has to be willing to buy the club and right now I can't see that happening whilst we have that large a debt hanging over us like a dark cloud.

The best bet right now is to talk with the club itself and try and get communication going with Tan.

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Political rhetoric and beating around the bush just as expected. Why no straight yes or no answers? It's all getting a bit embarrassing to be fair.

It's nothing like being bullied at school. That bully at school is not funding the life of something you love, Tan is. It's a terrible comparison.

I'm all for standing up for what I believe I but Tan in this instance has the upper hand and the more mature approach would be to take his money and the short term benefits and then when he leaves (he won't be around forever) to restore our identity. Patience is a virtue and its one we must respect to obtain the best outcome.

Fighting an extremist approach with an equally extremist approach is not the answer. It just leads to more damage and hurt. There's no need for it.

Part of me really would like to be a part of Bluebirds Unite but in the end my pragmatism takes over.

I take the exact same view as you in that we have been given a gift horse and we should exploit it to the full.

VT is 60+ now and one wonders how long he will be around. He is already talking about floating us on the Malaysian stock market which has to point to an eventual exit strategy.

The clever way ahead says take the money, stabilize the club and then look for an opportunity for a revert back to blue (that is where Bluebirds Unite would be useful).

In fighting, protest marches etc. is so old hat and pointless.

Annis, the image of of the cause diminishes every time you make that gaff, and that is a small one compared to being associated and photographed with known people with banning orders and every event is associated with drinking. You don't see shareholders in an AGM with cans and pints . I noticed the guy in the front had his pint photoshopped out, could have done the same with a few faces.
In terms of protests they are rarely peaceful because they will get hijacked by people wanting to make a name for themselves and stating the obvious if you are seen to be transporting people to away games to cause trouble don't surprised if the ticket supply drys up. Wearing blue to games is not a problem and makes your case without harming the club which is my primary concern.
VT has stated his plan and backed it with his cash and I don't see him changing. Without his support we would not even have a chance to survive in the PL, remember Swansea had to sell 2 players and a manager for 25 mill to post a profit, we have enormous costs this close season to upgrade the facilities and hopefully pay off your mate, before we even look at the playing budget.
We have come too far to see this club slide back which some want to promote, but once you get on that slide it difficult to get off on the path to oblivion.

Steve,

The fans that were there at the meeting the other night were from all generations, you had every type of fan there, exactly how Cardiff City's fan base is made up of.
100% this group Bluebirds Unite has no intentions to cause trouble, if it did I would leave it, times have changed and so have I and you know that. You yourself like a good drink and a laugh, at the meeting the other night, there was no abuse, threatening etc, unlike at that KCB meeting a year ago, which I totally distanced myself from.

If fans like myself did not go on about our identity and the Blue, in time it would be forgotten and the new generations then would want to stay red forever. I know Tan is not going to change his mind,there is no threats to him. We are just reminding him and the new fans that We are Blue really and what it means to us.
The next owner then will hopefully change it back, but if the next owner thinks were All Red, weve got no chance.

The Uk is a Free world and freedom of speech and beliefs/opinions if done in a sensible manner should be taken on board and respected.

It breaks me regarding the rebrand, but NO I wont walk away like some have, in my opinion the best form of protest is to turn up, support your team, wear your Blue and keep the old songs going.

Why can't Cardiff City give us one single logical reason for changing the kit to our team from blue to red? Why has no one in the board room said to Mr Tan, if nots broke don't fix it! We have a blue stadium, we are called the Bluebirds, we have an enormous history of wearing blue! We now play in red and black, still in a blue stadium with fans wearing blue, singing bluebird songs "the blues are going up" this will never stop! We will just look stupid on a world wide stage! Will this get investors interested? No! We will be a laughing stock!
Why change the badge? No reason! To help sales in Malasyia? Wtf do those fans bring on match days? There not even real! And insult to injury is some fans who are completely against this Micky mouse rebrand have said they might have accepted a red and blue kit like Barcelona, but Tan wouldn't even meet them in the middle?
Last season people put up with the change due to the performances on the pitch! Well next season fans will soon be rattled dhen were not winning our first 10 games at home! The change of kit as it is a complete distraction, causing unsettled fans to fight amongst each other! We will not be staying in the premiership with all this nonsense going on!
If Tan is a business man surrounded by people who know football, they better start advising him! Grow a pair! Before all his hard work goes down the drain!
What ever happens ill be wearing blue to that stadium after Tans reign! Owners come and go! Fans are forever!

SPOT ON

These are answers I want from you, Mr. Borley...

Someone hasn't been keeping up with the news

From my understanding the change from blue to red was about marketing in the far east? Same with the badge as the Dragon (along with the red) would have massive appeal to the Chinese and Malaysian's. That was the very credible logical reason given for the rebrand as the oriental fans are not overly taken with a bluebird (or blue) which is native to America.

I'm not saying he is right (although I can see the joined up writing) or that it is right to put Far East fans before South Wales fans but the fact is we have overspent for more than a decade now and something radical had to be done to pay that off and secure our future.

The very sad but unavoidable fact is you can't live for today when running a multi-million £ business and one day the chickens will come home to roost.

I would prefer a pragmatic approach which sees us accept the rebrand and recapitalisation of our club but seeks to spot an opportunity in the future where it is mutually beneficial for us to revert back to blue.

all the explanations are clearly bs... there is no reason apart from than VT has his superstitions and his personal preference...

I’m not too keen on the March thingy. Just wear Blue, it couldn't be more simple or more effective.

If all of the signatures on the BU petition only wear Blue to matches, then that alone will keep the blue alive.

All I've ever wanted to buy in the shop is the leisure wear (polo shirts) which have been terrible for years. The club is shooting itself in the foot by producing crap leisure wear like the recently posted red polo shirt. Now you have Oner and Karl along with others producing some great stuff, If they continue with new designs the blue will grow and grow.

We're not against modern football yet were pictured with a banner with that statement, we won't harm the club but we are organising a march on a high profile game, we want recognition but we are are against the club. And then you wonder why majority of fans suspect your intensions.

Steve I'd personally like to invite you (As a representative of the club) To attend our next meeting.

This is the best way for you to see what Bluebirds Unite is about rather than everybody speculating.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/BLUEBIRDSUNITE/

Steve, Sian, Perhaps a few of us sitting down or you coming along to a meeting, would be good and hopefully help and understand each other more on this and realise what its all about.


link

https://www.facebook.com/groups/BLUEBIRDSUNITE/

Annis, the image of of the cause diminishes every time you make that gaff, and that is a small one compared to being associated and photographed with known people with banning orders and every event is associated with drinking. You don't see shareholders in an AGM with cans and pints . I noticed the guy in the front had his pint photoshopped out, could have done the same with a few faces.
In terms of protests they are rarely peaceful because they will get hijacked by people wanting to make a name for themselves and stating the obvious if you are seen to be transporting people to away games to cause trouble don't surprised if the ticket supply drys up. Wearing blue to games is not a problem and makes your case without harming the club which is my primary concern.
VT has stated his plan and backed it with his cash and I don't see him changing. Without his support we would not even have a chance to survive in the PL, remember Swansea had to sell 2 players and a manager for 25 mill to post a profit, we have enormous costs this close season to upgrade the facilities and hopefully pay off your mate, before we even look at the playing budget.
We have come too far to see this club slide back which some want to promote, but once you get on that slide it difficult to get off on the path to oblivion.

Steve,

The fans that were there at the meeting the other night were from all generations, you had every type of fan there, exactly how Cardiff City's fan base is made up of.
100% this group Bluebirds Unite has no intentions to cause trouble, if it did I would leave it, times have changed and so have I and you know that. You yourself like a good drink and a laugh, at the meeting the other night, there was no abuse, threatening etc, unlike at that KCB meeting a year ago, which I totally distanced myself from.

If fans like myself did not go on about our identity and the Blue, in time it would be forgotten and the new generations then would want to stay red forever. I know Tan is not going to change his mind,there is no threats to him. We are just reminding him and the new fans that We are Blue really and what it means to us.
The next owner then will hopefully change it back, but if the next owner thinks were All Red, weve got no chance.

The Uk is a Free world and freedom of speech and beliefs/opinions if done in a sensible manner should be taken on board and respected.

It breaks me regarding the rebrand, but NO I wont walk away like some have, in my opinion the best form of protest is to turn up, support your team, wear your Blue and keep the old songs going.

Well said Annis. An absolute joke to infer that the meetings should not be taken seriously due to them being held in a place where Alcohol is available. An anology to a Club AGM is totally out of context.

Steve, Any news yet on Tan making our club debt Free and changing the debt in to equity/shares?

Sian I notice one moment you invite me to a meeting to get an insight into your campaign and then I read on to discover you are accusing me of profiting from the club and rhetoric about fighting, and selling out etc. it appears you have laid out your policies and you still don't distance yourself from the Against Modern Football slogan. The inference from your posts is that you have firm beliefs which I respect but comes across as at all costs which does concern me and others.

Steve, Any news yet on Tan making our club debt Free and changing the debt in to equity/shares?

You know that won't be done until Sam sorted out, you know that better than anybody

Steve, Any news yet on Tan making our club debt Free and changing the debt in to equity/shares?

Annis its all tied in with settling Langston, the sooner that happens the quicker we call all lay this issue to rest

I agree Steve,blue at all cost is not an option and Sian do you realize what Steve has done for city?

Sian I notice one moment you invite me to a meeting to get an insight into your campaign and then I read on to discover you are accusing me of profiting from the club and rhetoric about fighting, and selling out etc. it appears you have laid out your policies and you still don't distance yourself from the Against Modern Football slogan. The inference from your posts is that you have firm beliefs which I respect but comes across as at all costs which does concern me and others.

Steve stop talking common sense. It's not welcome on this board and you should know this from experience.

BU = extremist
VT = extremist
Reluctant reds = somewhere in between

BU and VT might be opposite ends of the CCFC spectrum but they're still both extremist in their views. As a reluctant red I'm happy to let Tan have his time here, hopefully the club gains from it and then return to blue in the future nice and easily when the time is right.

Hi Steve, you don't know me but I was around when you put your family home on the line to save our football club...people are too young, or chose to forget but many of us will always be grateful mate...its a shame the leader of this new group..its starting to get like a monty python film, does not even know your name...her facebook message about Steve Ball was sad to say the least.

Saying all that surely in your heart of hearts you would prefer us back in Blue? I thought I was alright with the re brand but we are a blue club, been that way all my life and the players wearing red at home, together with the horrible stuff on sale in the club shop spoils things for many loyal fans....it has caused arguments and division when it should be great times.

Sian I notice one moment you invite me to a meeting to get an insight into your campaign and then I read on to discover you are accusing me of profiting from the club and rhetoric about fighting, and selling out etc. it appears you have laid out your policies and you still don't distance yourself from the Against Modern Football slogan. The inference from your posts is that you have firm beliefs which I respect but comes across as at all costs which does concern me and others.

Steve stop talking common sense. It's not welcome on this board and you should know this from experience.

BU = extremist
VT = extremist
Reluctant reds = somewhere in between

BU and VT might be opposite ends of the CCFC spectrum but they're still both extremist in their views. As a reluctant red I'm happy to let Tan have his time here, hopefully the club gains from it and then return to blue in the future nice and easily when the time is right.

Steves not going to listen to you barnett why would he take advice from somebody whos posts for and againsts views in diffrent account names in the same thread all the time and guess what thats you, how many accounts have you had on here now chameleon

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Annis, the image of of the cause diminishes every time you make that gaff, and that is a small one compared to being associated and photographed with known people with banning orders and every event is associated with drinking. You don't see shareholders in an AGM with cans and pints . I noticed the guy in the front had his pint photoshopped out, could have done the same with a few faces.
In terms of protests they are rarely peaceful because they will get hijacked by people wanting to make a name for themselves and stating the obvious if you are seen to be transporting people to away games to cause trouble don't surprised if the ticket supply drys up. Wearing blue to games is not a problem and makes your case without harming the club which is my primary concern.
VT has stated his plan and backed it with his cash and I don't see him changing. Without his support we would not even have a chance to survive in the PL, remember Swansea had to sell 2 players and a manager for 25 mill to post a profit, we have enormous costs this close season to upgrade the facilities and hopefully pay off your mate, before we even look at the playing budget.
We have come too far to see this club slide back which some want to promote, but once you get on that slide it difficult to get off on the path to oblivion.

Oh here we go, and with every post the respect you once had off some fans diminishes equally.

So what if some of those there had banning orders, does that mean that they don't have a right to believe in a cause. Everybody makes mistakes, are these people not allowed to carry on with the lives, what a cheap pathetic pot shot from a so
called professional and a director of the Football Club.

Do you want me to post pictures on here of you at a recent event happily possing with known hooligans some of whom have been on banning orders in the past or is that ok because they are not against the red in the same way others are, what a hypocrite.

Your post just gets even more laughable to be fair, are you honestly comparing an AGM of shareholders with a public meeting between some fans.

And are you realy threatening Annis and Carl with a cheap shot of stopping their ticket supply through the travel club, this is getting worse, I feel sorry for you.