if the club made a statement of apology....

So you don't know TLG then Gywn ?

You really are slow aren't you, read my post, other than those who's names are on the boards, now surely TLG falls into that category, in all honesty though, of the few others most are anonymous and faceless posters.And in truth, I only became aware of TLG in recent years because of his internet involvement, and the later on putting his name to his face at a few meetings etc.

So do you know TLG or not FFS!!!!

You don't understand do you, but you must be the only one, I will write it slowly. I DO KNOW TLG, HE IS ONE OF THE ONES I REFER TO AS ON HERE. I DO KNOW HIM I HAVE MET HIM AND HE IS ONE OF THE NAMES ON HERE, WHAT I SAID AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T SEE IT IS THAT OTHER THAN THOSE WHO'S NAMES ARE ON HERE, I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS OR KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS STOPPED GOING BECAUSE OF THE REBRAND, IT'S QUITE EASY AND BASIC.

I think you may be making yourself look a bit stupid regarding this point, you must be the only one missing what I was getting at.

Gwyn you can write whatever you want but you are nothing but a lair. Time and time again you've been found out and I'm, glad others are now starting to realise not to believe a single word that comes out of your mouth.

Totally deluded, yet to see proof of one lie, lot's of accusations, alleges, apparentlys, but no statements or facts or proof, but has that ever stopped a politician, all be it a five minute failed dreamer from making claims.

I heard that someone alleged thinks they heard someone who's friend was there, just isn't real proof, it may work on internet world, perhaps you should try mixing with real people in real world.

So do you know TLG or not FFS!!!!

You don't understand do you, but you must be the only one, I will write it slowly. I DO KNOW TLG, HE IS ONE OF THE ONES I REFER TO AS ON HERE. I DO KNOW HIM I HAVE MET HIM AND HE IS ONE OF THE NAMES ON HERE, WHAT I SAID AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T SEE IT IS THAT OTHER THAN THOSE WHO'S NAMES ARE ON HERE, I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS OR KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS STOPPED GOING BECAUSE OF THE REBRAND, IT'S QUITE EASY AND BASIC.

I think you may be making yourself look a bit stupid regarding this point, you must be the only one missing what I was getting at. [/quote]

Gwyn you can write whatever you want but you are nothing but a lair. Time and time again you've been found out and I'm, glad others are now starting to realise not to believe a single word that comes out of your mouth.[/quote]


Totally deluded, yet to see proof of one lie, lot's of accusations, alleges, apparentlys, but no statements or facts or proof, but has that ever stopped a politician, all be it a five minute failed dreamer from making claims.

I heard that someone alleged thinks they heard someone who's friend was there, just isn't real proof, it may work on internet world, perhaps you should try mixing with real people in real world. [/quote]

you can say what you want Gwyn,you've been found out and everyone in that meeting knows it.

So do you know any friends / siblings who have fallen out and dont speak because one supports the rebrand and one doesnt?

Thats what I call a rift and I dont know anyone who falls into the above scenario

I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here, my old muckas from Aberdare had three bus load at Bolton, same lads same crack no different, what happens in real world and what people think is happening from reading stories on here is totally different.

Spot on Gwyn. Its magnified hugely on here because Annis is a larger than life charachter who has made his feelings known and uses his own forum to channel his anger over the rebrand, thats fair enough its his forum. Yourself and the councillor hace had a long running spat over it, and TLG, makes his feelings known at any given opportunity and he is very articulate and good with a keyboard but thats all it is. In short a number of larger than life charachters / personnas but in the grand scheme of tens of thousands of City fans its a tiny ratio.

I know people who have stopped going but they had stopped going / didnt go much last season as well.

How can he be spot on when he stated that he doesn't know anyone who has refused to go because of the rebrand when he knowsTLG!!! That's another lie of his!!!

Gwyn quoted -I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here

Wouldn't TLG come under names you read on here?
Come adam your concentrating

So do you know any friends / siblings who have fallen out and dont speak because one supports the rebrand and one doesnt?

Thats what I call a rift and I dont know anyone who falls into the above scenario

I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here, my old muckas from Aberdare had three bus load at Bolton, same lads same crack no different, what happens in real world and what people think is happening from reading stories on here is totally different.

Spot on Gwyn. Its magnified hugely on here because Annis is a larger than life charachter who has made his feelings known and uses his own forum to channel his anger over the rebrand, thats fair enough its his forum. Yourself and the councillor hace had a long running spat over it, and TLG, makes his feelings known at any given opportunity and he is very articulate and good with a keyboard but thats all it is. In short a number of larger than life charachters / personnas but in the grand scheme of tens of thousands of City fans its a tiny ratio.

I know people who have stopped going but they had stopped going / didnt go much last season as well.

How can he be spot on when he stated that he doesn't know anyone who has refused to go because of the rebrand when he knowsTLG!!! That's another lie of his!!!

Gwyn quoted -I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here

Wouldn't TLG come under names you read on here?
Come adam your concentrating

Not really because Gwyn knows TLG personally.FACT

So do you know TLG or not FFS!!!!

You don't understand do you, but you must be the only one, I will write it slowly. I DO KNOW TLG, HE IS ONE OF THE ONES I REFER TO AS ON HERE. I DO KNOW HIM I HAVE MET HIM AND HE IS ONE OF THE NAMES ON HERE, WHAT I SAID AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T SEE IT IS THAT OTHER THAN THOSE WHO'S NAMES ARE ON HERE, I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS OR KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS STOPPED GOING BECAUSE OF THE REBRAND, IT'S QUITE EASY AND BASIC.

I think you may be making yourself look a bit stupid regarding this point, you must be the only one missing what I was getting at.

Gwyn you can write whatever you want but you are nothing but a lair. Time and time again you've been found out and I'm, glad others are now starting to realise not to believe a single word that comes out of your mouth.[/quote]


Totally deluded, yet to see proof of one lie, lot's of accusations, alleges, apparentlys, but no statements or facts or proof, but has that ever stopped a politician, all be it a five minute failed dreamer from making claims.

I heard that someone alleged thinks they heard someone who's friend was there, just isn't real proof, it may work on internet world, perhaps you should try mixing with real people in real world. [/quote]

you can say what you want Gwyn,you've been found out and everyone in that meeting knows it.[/quote]

Well get someone who was there who we know to repeat what was said then, easy, let's think of one, I know Annis was there ask him. GO ON, GO ON,GO ON, what are you scared of, the truth?

So do you know any friends / siblings who have fallen out and dont speak because one supports the rebrand and one doesnt?

Thats what I call a rift and I dont know anyone who falls into the above scenario

I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here, my old muckas from Aberdare had three bus load at Bolton, same lads same crack no different, what happens in real world and what people think is happening from reading stories on here is totally different.

Spot on Gwyn. Its magnified hugely on here because Annis is a larger than life charachter who has made his feelings known and uses his own forum to channel his anger over the rebrand, thats fair enough its his forum. Yourself and the councillor hace had a long running spat over it, and TLG, makes his feelings known at any given opportunity and he is very articulate and good with a keyboard but thats all it is. In short a number of larger than life charachters / personnas but in the grand scheme of tens of thousands of City fans its a tiny ratio.

I know people who have stopped going but they had stopped going / didnt go much last season as well.

How can he be spot on when he stated that he doesn't know anyone who has refused to go because of the rebrand when he knowsTLG!!! That's another lie of his!!!

Gwyn quoted -I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here

Wouldn't TLG come under names you read on here?
Come adam your concentrating

Not really because Gwyn knows TLG personally.FACT

You really can't see it can you, yes I know him and he is one of those who's name is on here, which bit is confusing you, the bit wher I said "other than those who's names are on here" are you drunk?

So do you know any friends / siblings who have fallen out and dont speak because one supports the rebrand and one doesnt?

Thats what I call a rift and I dont know anyone who falls into the above scenario

I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here, my old muckas from Aberdare had three bus load at Bolton, same lads same crack no different, what happens in real world and what people think is happening from reading stories on here is totally different.

Spot on Gwyn. Its magnified hugely on here because Annis is a larger than life charachter who has made his feelings known and uses his own forum to channel his anger over the rebrand, thats fair enough its his forum. Yourself and the councillor hace had a long running spat over it, and TLG, makes his feelings known at any given opportunity and he is very articulate and good with a keyboard but thats all it is. In short a number of larger than life charachters / personnas but in the grand scheme of tens of thousands of City fans its a tiny ratio.

I know people who have stopped going but they had stopped going / didnt go much last season as well.

How can he be spot on when he stated that he doesn't know anyone who has refused to go because of the rebrand when he knowsTLG!!! That's another lie of his!!!

Gwyn quoted -I seriously don't, i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here

Wouldn't TLG come under names you read on here?
Come adam your concentrating

Not really because Gwyn knows TLG personally.FACT

Gwyn doesnt deny it though?
He says i also don't personally know anyone who has stopped going because of it other than the names you read on here???
Are you so deluded you cant see what he's saying?

So do you know TLG or not FFS!!!!

You don't understand do you, but you must be the only one, I will write it slowly. I DO KNOW TLG, HE IS ONE OF THE ONES I REFER TO AS ON HERE. I DO KNOW HIM I HAVE MET HIM AND HE IS ONE OF THE NAMES ON HERE, WHAT I SAID AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T SEE IT IS THAT OTHER THAN THOSE WHO'S NAMES ARE ON HERE, I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS OR KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS STOPPED GOING BECAUSE OF THE REBRAND, IT'S QUITE EASY AND BASIC.

I think you may be making yourself look a bit stupid regarding this point, you must be the only one missing what I was getting at.

Gwyn you can write whatever you want but you are nothing but a lair. Time and time again you've been found out and I'm, glad others are now starting to realise not to believe a single word that comes out of your mouth.

Totally deluded, yet to see proof of one lie, lot's of accusations, alleges, apparentlys, but no statements or facts or proof, but has that ever stopped a politician, all be it a five minute failed dreamer from making claims.

I heard that someone alleged thinks they heard someone who's friend was there, just isn't real proof, it may work on internet world, perhaps you should try mixing with real people in real world. [/quote]

you can say what you want Gwyn,you've been found out and everyone in that meeting knows it.[/quote]

Well get someone who was there who we know to repeat what was said then, easy, let's think of one, I know Annis was there ask him. GO ON, GO ON,GO ON, what are you scared of, the truth?[/quote]

bluebird 64 is saying the truth on the other thread

There's no doubt about it. The club had lost ticket revenue because of it and I do t believe for one moment that the red shit is mind ing off the shelfs as much as they say.

And taffy I'm still waiting for proof off individuals like you that I didn't go before. Bearing in mind that Gwyn has made this myth being legend in some people's eyes.

What proof do YOU have that the supporters that have stopped going have not been
replaced by new supporters? "There's no doubt about it".... Prove it!!

I suspect that the new red shite ISNT moving as quick as the Club would like and that
many supporters might be hedging their bets and hoping we lose that awful beermat.

Whenever I purchase anything from the Club, I always go 'retro'. I wont buy red.

But you are intimating that the Club has lost thousands of supporters over the rebrand

AngryMan, you don't have a clue do you, Red shirts SOLD OUT and new stock came in a few days before Christmas, when it was out that they were back in stock the queue for the front door and till we're 50 people long on a non match day for around 4-5 hours, ask Julian Jenkins (photos on Twitter).

As for the support, it's as good as its been with the same faces sitting around me, so only a few have stayed away because of the colour change, WE still support Cardiff City.

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

10/10 Quality

If you read and have a look at the posts on here it is evident that us the fans have a difference of opinion with over 100 posts on this thread what does it tell you come on.

The simple FACT is some people dont mind the re brand some dont like it but others hate it.

What do you expect he changed the clubs colours and for what reason?

Did anyone expect nothing to happen and just get on with it or did people think in time everybody will be ok with it.

NO everyone has and is entitled to an opinion I called it a rift which was to strong a word but come on boys what did you all expect.

There are people on here quite happily saying most of my mates and people I no except the re brand but the fact is not everybody excepts it and to what percentage for and against nobody knows.

Nobody is taking CCFC away from me I am an addict like us all and I will not go into the reasons why I dont like the re brand this is about admitting that some fans big in numbers or small dont like it and also some fans do like it.

There is no getting away from it end of .I go to every home game to support my team and its easy to say ok i have accepted it well no I hate it I just get on with supporting my team dont mean I like the re brand for one minute.

There must be loads of people like me in the ground as there is loads who approve.

My point is whilst this red kit stays us fans are split and it does tarnish a brilliant season by the team so far and that is a fact.

If you asked all fans of other clubs to change badge and colour they they would tell you to fxxk off some would say yes for 100 mill but we havent had it so can anybody tell me what we have gained from the rebrand other than causing a debate between fans of the same club.

If you read the posts on here its mainly one loud mouth idiot who has plenty to say but talks no sense.

Add to the fact he wasnt even a regular down the City, never had a good word to say about the club prior to the rebrand anyway, and is constantly in the press for making a tw*t of himself then I suggest it isnt wise to be using
him as an example of how our fan base feels.

Hes rubbing a lot of people up the wrong way, people who he may class as friends, its probably wise he does stay away from the ccs for his own safety.

I got people pming me asking me to warn him I dont want no part of it hes just someone I know ffs.

If you read the posts on here its mainly one loud mouth idiot who has plenty to say but talks no sense.

Add to the fact he wasnt even a regular down the City, never had a good word to say about the club prior to the rebrand anyway, and is constantly in the press for making a tw*t of himself then I suggest it isnt wise to be using
him as an example of how our fan base feels.

Hes rubbing a lot of people up the wrong way, people who he may class as friends, its probably wise he does stay away from the ccs for his own safety.

I got people pming me asking me to warn him I dont want no part of it hes just someone I know ffs.

rubbing up people because of a difference of opinion FFS!!!

If you read and have a look at the posts on here it is evident that us the fans have a difference of opinion with over 100 posts on this thread what does it tell you come on.

The simple FACT is some people dont mind the re brand some dont like it but others hate it.

What do you expect he changed the clubs colours and for what reason?

Did anyone expect nothing to happen and just get on with it or did people think in time everybody will be ok with it.

NO everyone has and is entitled to an opinion I called it a rift which was to strong a word but come on boys what did you all expect.

There are people on here quite happily saying most of my mates and people I no except the re brand but the fact is not everybody excepts it and to what percentage for and against nobody knows.

Nobody is taking CCFC away from me I am an addict like us all and I will not go into the reasons why I dont like the re brand this is about admitting that some fans big in numbers or small dont like it and also some fans do like it.

There is no getting away from it end of .I go to every home game to support my team and its easy to say ok i have accepted it well no I hate it I just get on with supporting my team dont mean I like the re brand for one minute.

There must be loads of people like me in the ground as there is loads who approve.

My point is whilst this red kit stays us fans are split and it does tarnish a brilliant season by the team so far and that is a fact.

If you asked all fans of other clubs to change badge and colour they they would tell you to fxxk off some would say yes for 100 mill but we havent had it so can anybody tell me what we have gained from the rebrand other than causing a debate between fans of the same club.

One of my best mates dont go now because of it. He's the only person I know. I disagree with
him not going, my opinion is, as shite as the rebrand is, its still our Club, and I'll keep supporting it
hoping one day we get our badge or colour back. I respect his stance, but disagree with
it. He respects mine but disagrees with me. Thats it. We are still mates, there is not tension
or animosity in the air. We still go on the piss, its changed f**k all. Thats the rebrand in a
nutshell mate. There's no 'debate' no 'split'. Not unless someone comes up to me and says "I'm glad we
are red, and I hated the Bluebird"... but who's going to say that??

So your wrong. The fans arent split.

There are as many threads on here about Rudy Gestede, is he good, is he shit?

Is that a 'split' between fans?? Of course not.

As for have we gained anything from the rebrand? as far as i can tell... f**k all!!

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

You always say half the story on that don't you and fail to ever mention that I was the only person on here who offered to buy a shirt for the family to raffle off!!! Absolute prick

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

You always say half the story on that don't you and fail to ever mention that I was the only person on here who offered to buy a shirt for the family to raffle off!!! Absolute prick

YEH RIGHTO.

You weapon.

Lad. A nasty horrible rumour started about Cardiff City FC. That was at about 7pm one
evening, everyone was shocked, but everyone said "hang on, that dont sound like our
Club, lets wait until we hear what the Club have to say"... except you. STRAIGHT AWAY
you called the Club a disgrace. No evidence, no nothing, just a rumour. As i said then
and i say now.. NOT the reaction of a supporter!! Offering to buy a shirt afterwards is
just your way of trying to curry favour again. But you are what you are. Have a check
through this thread, oh and the "6 months is up Gwyn" thread I think you'll find i'm not
alone in thinking your an absolute tool

Adam, just give up.....you've taken a cyber ass whooping. You have made yourself look rather daft in these few threads you made. Stop digging, for the love of god man, stop digging!

Adam, just give up.....you've taken a cyber ass whooping. You have made yourself look rather daft in these few threads you made. Stop digging, for the love of god man, stop digging!

SPOT ON.

Nobody else has to do a thing. Its like social suicide with him

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

You always say half the story on that don't you and fail to ever mention that I was the only person on here who offered to buy a shirt for the family to raffle off!!! Absolute prick

YEH RIGHTO.

You weapon.

Lad. A nasty horrible rumour started about Cardiff City FC. That was at about 7pm one
evening, everyone was shocked, but everyone said "hang on, that dont sound like our
Club, lets wait until we hear what the Club have to say"... except you. STRAIGHT AWAY
you called the Club a disgrace. No evidence, no nothing, just a rumour. As i said then
and i say now.. NOT the reaction of a supporter!! Offering to buy a shirt afterwards is
just your way of trying to curry favour again. But you are what you are. Have a check
through this thread, oh and the "6 months is up Gwyn" thread I think you'll find i'm not
alone in thinking your an absolute tool

Are you seriously suggesting that I never offered to buy a shirt for the family.!!!!! If so,I do hope that others can remember that

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

You always say half the story on that don't you and fail to ever mention that I was the only person on here who offered to buy a shirt for the family to raffle off!!! Absolute prick

YEH RIGHTO.

You weapon.

Lad. A nasty horrible rumour started about Cardiff City FC. That was at about 7pm one
evening, everyone was shocked, but everyone said "hang on, that dont sound like our
Club, lets wait until we hear what the Club have to say"... except you. STRAIGHT AWAY
you called the Club a disgrace. No evidence, no nothing, just a rumour. As i said then
and i say now.. NOT the reaction of a supporter!! Offering to buy a shirt afterwards is
just your way of trying to curry favour again. But you are what you are. Have a check
through this thread, oh and the "6 months is up Gwyn" thread I think you'll find i'm not
alone in thinking your an absolute tool

Are you seriously suggesting that I never offered to buy a shirt for the family.!!!!! If so,I do hope that others can remember that

ERM

Ok. your a grown man and i cant tell you what to do. But as a suggestion....

Try reading what I have written above.

Rain Man has been anti-Cardiff City since he came on this board as midfield General.

He constantly slagged off The Malaysians, saying Tan was doing dodgy deals with Fernandez
because of the 'Dispatches' programme where Tan said and did f**k all

He then said Tan would be gone by the Summer, his 'insiders' at the Club told him

Then, disgustingly, he slagged off Cardiff City over an internet rumour that they had
refused to send a City Top to the family of one of our lost soldiers in Afghanistan.
"The Club is a disgrace" he said, this on hearing the rumour. True Cardiff City supporters
are well aware of the respect the Club shows to our Armed Services, and would at the
very least give City the benefit of the doubt, wait to hear their explanation. He only
had to wind his neck in for about 10 hours till the following morning, when City put the
rumours to bed.

When things get too heated on here for him, he wishes people death by Cancer

Now, he's at it again.

THOUSANDS have stopped going because of the rebrand. Quotes wildly inaccurate attendance
figures off Wikipedia, is smashed by all and sundry, then turns round and says "you cant blame
me for getting it wrong, everyone knows Wikipedia is unreliable"

Somebody has been feeding him snippets of information in my opinion. Somebody who knows
he is not the sharpest tool in the box. If its anti-Cardiff City, he laps it up and cannot wait to
get on here. Meanwhile, his 'sources' are laughing their cocks off.

But he's the only one who doesnt get it..... The joke is him!!

You always say half the story on that don't you and fail to ever mention that I was the only person on here who offered to buy a shirt for the family to raffle off!!! Absolute prick

YEH RIGHTO.

You weapon.

Lad. A nasty horrible rumour started about Cardiff City FC. That was at about 7pm one
evening, everyone was shocked, but everyone said "hang on, that dont sound like our
Club, lets wait until we hear what the Club have to say"... except you. STRAIGHT AWAY
you called the Club a disgrace. No evidence, no nothing, just a rumour. As i said then
and i say now.. NOT the reaction of a supporter!! Offering to buy a shirt afterwards is
just your way of trying to curry favour again. But you are what you are. Have a check
through this thread, oh and the "6 months is up Gwyn" thread I think you'll find i'm not
alone in thinking your an absolute tool

Are you seriously suggesting that I never offered to buy a shirt for the family.!!!!! If so,I do hope that others can remember that

ERM

Ok. your a grown man and i cant tell you what to do. But as a suggestion....

Try reading what I have written above.

I apologise I didn't read all of it. However thats your opinion but it was said in good faith. FACT!!!

What a numpty

He seriously needs to go and see someone, he has serious issues

If you read and have a look at the posts on here it is evident that us the fans have a difference of opinion with over 100 posts on this thread what does it tell you come on.

The simple FACT is some people dont mind the re brand some dont like it but others hate it.

What do you expect he changed the clubs colours and for what reason?

Did anyone expect nothing to happen and just get on with it or did people think in time everybody will be ok with it.

NO everyone has and is entitled to an opinion I called it a rift which was to strong a word but come on boys what did you all expect.

There are people on here quite happily saying most of my mates and people I no except the re brand but the fact is not everybody excepts it and to what percentage for and against nobody knows.

Nobody is taking CCFC away from me I am an addict like us all and I will not go into the reasons why I dont like the re brand this is about admitting that some fans big in numbers or small dont like it and also some fans do like it.

There is no getting away from it end of .I go to every home game to support my team and its easy to say ok i have accepted it well no I hate it I just get on with supporting my team dont mean I like the re brand for one minute.

There must be loads of people like me in the ground as there is loads who approve.

My point is whilst this red kit stays us fans are split and it does tarnish a brilliant season by the team so far and that is a fact.

If you asked all fans of other clubs to change badge and colour they they would tell you to fxxk off some would say yes for 100 mill but we havent had it so can anybody tell me what we have gained from the rebrand other than causing a debate between fans of the same club.

One of my best mates dont go now because of it. He's the only person I know. I disagree with
him not going, my opinion is, as shite as the rebrand is, its still our Club, and I'll keep supporting it
hoping one day we get our badge or colour back. I respect his stance, but disagree with
it. He respects mine but disagrees with me. Thats it. We are still mates, there is not tension
or animosity in the air. We still go on the piss, its changed f**k all. Thats the rebrand in a
nutshell mate. There's no 'debate' no 'split'. Not unless someone comes up to me and says "I'm glad we
are red, and I hated the Bluebird"... but who's going to say that??

So your wrong. The fans arent split.

There are as many threads on here about Rudy Gestede, is he good, is he shit?

Is that a 'split' between fans?? Of course not.

As for have we gained anything from the rebrand? as far as i can tell... f**k all!!

Spot on I never meant people are fighting or getting in to arguements over the rebrand we are all Cardiff fans at the end of the day .I am saying there is a big difference in opinion each side thinking they are right and the other side dont matter when it does.

The people I have spoken do want to strongly get there views over and I am no different I still go to games so I agree with you for the most part .If this didnt cause a bit heated debate that would mean we dont give a shit about the club.

I hope we get the true colour back one day and I agree the rebrand has gained us f**k all which is why I hate it even more now.
If people say the re brand hasnt changed anything thats fine but others are angry and discussed with it thats the difference in opinion.

I to no people who support both sides and we havent fallen out over it and I would expet us to fall out we are Cardiff fans just a shame we need to be taking about it really but its here and shouldnt be ignored its are club Red or Blue.

If you read and have a look at the posts on here it is evident that us the fans have a difference of opinion with over 100 posts on this thread what does it tell you come on.

The simple FACT is some people dont mind the re brand some dont like it but others hate it.

What do you expect he changed the clubs colours and for what reason?

Did anyone expect nothing to happen and just get on with it or did people think in time everybody will be ok with it.

NO everyone has and is entitled to an opinion I called it a rift which was to strong a word but come on boys what did you all expect.

There are people on here quite happily saying most of my mates and people I no except the re brand but the fact is not everybody excepts it and to what percentage for and against nobody knows.

Nobody is taking CCFC away from me I am an addict like us all and I will not go into the reasons why I dont like the re brand this is about admitting that some fans big in numbers or small dont like it and also some fans do like it.

There is no getting away from it end of .I go to every home game to support my team and its easy to say ok i have accepted it well no I hate it I just get on with supporting my team dont mean I like the re brand for one minute.

There must be loads of people like me in the ground as there is loads who approve.

My point is whilst this red kit stays us fans are split and it does tarnish a brilliant season by the team so far and that is a fact.

If you asked all fans of other clubs to change badge and colour they they would tell you to fxxk off some would say yes for 100 mill but we havent had it so can anybody tell me what we have gained from the rebrand other than causing a debate between fans of the same club.

One of my best mates dont go now because of it. He's the only person I know. I disagree with
him not going, my opinion is, as shite as the rebrand is, its still our Club, and I'll keep supporting it
hoping one day we get our badge or colour back. I respect his stance, but disagree with
it. He respects mine but disagrees with me. Thats it. We are still mates, there is not tension
or animosity in the air. We still go on the piss, its changed f**k all. Thats the rebrand in a
nutshell mate. There's no 'debate' no 'split'. Not unless someone comes up to me and says "I'm glad we
are red, and I hated the Bluebird"... but who's going to say that??

So your wrong. The fans arent split.

There are as many threads on here about Rudy Gestede, is he good, is he shit?

Is that a 'split' between fans?? Of course not.

As for have we gained anything from the rebrand? as far as i can tell... f**k all!!

Spot on I never meant people are fighting or getting in to arguements over the rebrand we are all Cardiff fans at the end of the day .I am saying there is a big difference in opinion each side thinking they are right and the other side dont matter when it does.

The people I have spoken do want to strongly get there views over and I am no different I still go to games so I agree with you for the most part .If this didnt cause a bit heated debate that would mean we dont give a shit about the club.

I hope we get the true colour back one day and I agree the rebrand has gained us f**k all which is why I hate it even more now.
If people say the re brand hasnt changed anything thats fine but others are angry and discussed with it thats the difference in opinion.

I to no people who support both sides and we havent fallen out over it and I would expet us to fall out we are Cardiff fans just a shame we need to be taking about it really but its here and shouldnt be ignored its are club Red or Blue.

If we ignore it. f**k me, what will he do next? He HAS to know that many are unhappy.
Thats why I have no argument with the KCB group. Because deep down, we ALL believe
in the same thing. that 'thing' is Cardiff City Football club

If you read and have a look at the posts on here it is evident that us the fans have a difference of opinion with over 100 posts on this thread what does it tell you come on.

The simple FACT is some people dont mind the re brand some dont like it but others hate it.

What do you expect he changed the clubs colours and for what reason?

Did anyone expect nothing to happen and just get on with it or did people think in time everybody will be ok with it.

NO everyone has and is entitled to an opinion I called it a rift which was to strong a word but come on boys what did you all expect.

There are people on here quite happily saying most of my mates and people I no except the re brand but the fact is not everybody excepts it and to what percentage for and against nobody knows.

Nobody is taking CCFC away from me I am an addict like us all and I will not go into the reasons why I dont like the re brand this is about admitting that some fans big in numbers or small dont like it and also some fans do like it.

There is no getting away from it end of .I go to every home game to support my team and its easy to say ok i have accepted it well no I hate it I just get on with supporting my team dont mean I like the re brand for one minute.

There must be loads of people like me in the ground as there is loads who approve.

My point is whilst this red kit stays us fans are split and it does tarnish a brilliant season by the team so far and that is a fact.

If you asked all fans of other clubs to change badge and colour they they would tell you to fxxk off some would say yes for 100 mill but we havent had it so can anybody tell me what we have gained from the rebrand other than causing a debate between fans of the same club.

One of my best mates dont go now because of it. He's the only person I know. I disagree with
him not going, my opinion is, as shite as the rebrand is, its still our Club, and I'll keep supporting it
hoping one day we get our badge or colour back. I respect his stance, but disagree with
it. He respects mine but disagrees with me. Thats it. We are still mates, there is not tension
or animosity in the air. We still go on the piss, its changed f**k all. Thats the rebrand in a
nutshell mate. There's no 'debate' no 'split'. Not unless someone comes up to me and says "I'm glad we
are red, and I hated the Bluebird"... but who's going to say that??

So your wrong. The fans arent split.

There are as many threads on here about Rudy Gestede, is he good, is he shit?

Is that a 'split' between fans?? Of course not.

As for have we gained anything from the rebrand? as far as i can tell... f**k all!!

Spot on I never meant people are fighting or getting in to arguements over the rebrand we are all Cardiff fans at the end of the day .I am saying there is a big difference in opinion each side thinking they are right and the other side dont matter when it does.

The people I have spoken do want to strongly get there views over and I am no different I still go to games so I agree with you for the most part .If this didnt cause a bit heated debate that would mean we dont give a shit about the club.

I hope we get the true colour back one day and I agree the rebrand has gained us f**k all which is why I hate it even more now.
If people say the re brand hasnt changed anything thats fine but others are angry and discussed with it thats the difference in opinion.

I to no people who support both sides and we havent fallen out over it and I would expet us to fall out we are Cardiff fans just a shame we need to be taking about it really but its here and shouldnt be ignored its are club Red or Blue.

If we ignore it. f**k me, what will he do next? He HAS to know that many are unhappy.
Thats why I have no argument with the KCB group. Because deep down, we ALL believe
in the same thing. that 'thing' is Cardiff City Football club

Happy days Taff 3 more points tomorrow and it will be a happy new year tarnished but happy