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That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:04 pm

Who is he? Rudy who?

What a half hour shift he put in! We saw that he can play football with the ball at his feet!!

I'm shocked he was so good! GREAT WIN!! :ayatollah:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:06 pm

Exactlly was brilliant when he came on. Won every header, held the ball and made some good passes.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:08 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:Exactlly was brilliant when he came on. Won every header, held the ball and made some good passes.


For a change it wasn't just his aerial ability which was good, his all round performance was the best I've seen from him.

RUUUUUUDY!

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:09 pm

to be fair to him he been playing well the past few games he come on

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:11 pm

His worst substitute performance and people give him credit. You have to laugh. He was great in other games, today, he gave the ball away constantly and almost let Leicester back in with one sloppy pass at the end. Also very lazy, Bellamy did far more chasing down even though he had played the full 90. Cowie was brilliant mind.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:12 pm

I remember having this opinion of Rudy last season when most thought he was well out of his depth when returning from injury. He is a great player and so underrated, if only he could add putting the ball in the net more often to his game we would have one heck of a player on our hands.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:13 pm

Getting better with every performance in all fairness. Just needs games. Brings a new dimension to the team up front when we need to make changes, and thats exactly what Malky needed from him today!

Well done RUUUUUUUUDYYYYYY! :ayatollah:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:15 pm

His worst performance? Are you having a laugh? :? :?

He was class!

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:17 pm

Guy on the radio said he started off well then got lazy.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:19 pm

CCFC_Lad wrote:His worst performance? Are you having a laugh? :? :?

He was class!


I wasn't at the game but Ratcliffe on the radio said Rudy started off well but then stopped chasing and also gave the ball away a bit. :ayatollah:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:21 pm

He's chatting shite then! It's only cos Bellamy's next to him, and he makes any striker with him look shit! haha :ayatollah:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:23 pm

He was good, he usually is.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:25 pm

I would say his performance was good enough! There were times on the break where you just wished it was mason on the end of a through ball, but the lack of pace means he just has to keep the ball up.Good for slowing the game down but not for increasing the lead. Very tactically sound substitution id say. He can hold the ball up well.

Massive call but im gunna throw it out there.

I think he could be good in the PL. More capable than weve ever seen him.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:26 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:His worst substitute performance and people give him credit. You have to laugh. He was great in other games, today, he gave the ball away constantly and almost let Leicester back in with one sloppy pass at the end. Also very lazy, Bellamy did far more chasing down even though he had played the full 90. Cowie was brilliant mind.


Load of rubbish. Was by far his best performance today, Bellamy is always going to keep chasing the ball its his game. Rudy only gave the ball away once if I remember and he bloody wasnt the only one. Whittingham gave the ball away time and time again and Taylor.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:27 pm

I'm not Rudy's biggest fan, at times I've questioned his effort and desire but today I have to hand it to him he looked like a completely different player. He missed all of the pre-season and the early part of the season through injury, so perhaps his fitness levels are finally getting up to standard. He still has a lot to work on, particularly his fitness (at times he looks knackered after 5 mins on the pitch), but today and his recent performances give me hope that there is some potential inside Rudy. Perhaps the prospect of a new striker has sparked this improvement, I don't know and don't care, I just hope he keeps it up :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:17 pm

moonboots wrote:
CCFC_Lad wrote:His worst performance? Are you having a laugh? :? :?

He was class!


I wasn't at the game but Ratcliffe on the radio said Rudy started off well but then stopped chasing and also gave the ball away a bit. :ayatollah:


I agree with the guy on the radio.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:19 pm

Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:21 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:53 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:His worst substitute performance and people give him credit. You have to laugh. He was great in other games, today, he gave the ball away constantly and almost let Leicester back in with one sloppy pass at the end. Also very lazy, Bellamy did far more chasing down even though he had played the full 90. Cowie was brilliant mind.


You chat crap at times :oops:

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:10 pm

jinks-rct wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:His worst substitute performance and people give him credit. You have to laugh. He was great in other games, today, he gave the ball away constantly and almost let Leicester back in with one sloppy pass at the end. Also very lazy, Bellamy did far more chasing down even though he had played the full 90. Cowie was brilliant mind.


You chat crap at times :oops:


All i'll say Jinks is re watch the match. He gave the ball away at least first times and 3 of those times was due to a terrible first touch. Did he play well? Yes. Was it his best performance? No. He has been better in other games to be fair. People are only saying that he did well today because we got a result against a tough team with our backs against the wall. Had we gone on to lose 2-1 everyone would be saying Rudy is crap and needs to be sent to County on loan. Our fans are embarrassing at times and let the result mask individual player performances.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:16 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.


So why not criticise Whittingham? thats all I'm asking. I'm not "trying to cause an issue" its a geniuing question. People want to slag off Rudy at any oppurtinity and cannot accept that he plays well.

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Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:25 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.


So why not criticise Whittingham? thats all I'm asking. I'm not "trying to cause an issue" its a geniuing question. People want to slag off Rudy at any oppurtinity and cannot accept that he plays well.


Because Rudy was the player in question. This thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. I mentioned Cowie later on in the post because he's also another player who gets criticism. I did not slag off Rudy, I said its funny how on one of his not so great performances he gets the credit because of how the game turned out and the result. He has played fine in nearly every other game he's featured but today his touch was off by quite a bit and I can recall at least 4 times he lost possession. If anything, he was by far and large most useful at clearing our box.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:27 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.


So why not criticise Whittingham? thats all I'm asking. I'm not "trying to cause an issue" its a geniuing question. People want to slag off Rudy at any oppurtinity and cannot accept that he plays well.


Because Rudy was the player in question. This thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. I mentioned Cowie later on in the post because he's also another player who gets criticism. I did not slag off Rudy, I said its funny how on one of his not so great performances he gets the credit because of how the game turned out and the result. He has played fine in nearly every other game he's featured but today his touch was off by quite a bit and I can recall at least 4 times he lost possession. If anything, he was by far and large most useful at clearing our box.


The reason I brought up whittingham because you were slating Rudy for losing the ball when Whittingham constantly gave the ball away. You say he played well and played poor how does that work? Fair enough if you dont think its was his best game but he played very well today when he came on.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:31 pm

I'm not really having ago at you more at eveyone who has slated him today

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:39 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.


So why not criticise Whittingham? thats all I'm asking. I'm not "trying to cause an issue" its a geniuing question. People want to slag off Rudy at any oppurtinity and cannot accept that he plays well.


Because Rudy was the player in question. This thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. I mentioned Cowie later on in the post because he's also another player who gets criticism. I did not slag off Rudy, I said its funny how on one of his not so great performances he gets the credit because of how the game turned out and the result. He has played fine in nearly every other game he's featured but today his touch was off by quite a bit and I can recall at least 4 times he lost possession. If anything, he was by far and large most useful at clearing our box.


No he wasn't - Cj was asking why you haven't criticised Whittingham's performance after he'd given away the ball on more than 7 or 8 occasions after watching it back a bit. But you refuse to answer his question properly.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:45 pm

Merlin wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.


So why not criticise Whittingham? thats all I'm asking. I'm not "trying to cause an issue" its a geniuing question. People want to slag off Rudy at any oppurtinity and cannot accept that he plays well.


Because Rudy was the player in question. This thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. I mentioned Cowie later on in the post because he's also another player who gets criticism. I did not slag off Rudy, I said its funny how on one of his not so great performances he gets the credit because of how the game turned out and the result. He has played fine in nearly every other game he's featured but today his touch was off by quite a bit and I can recall at least 4 times he lost possession. If anything, he was by far and large most useful at clearing our box.


No he wasn't - Cj was asking why you haven't criticised Whittingham's performance after he'd given away the ball on more than 7 or 8 occasions after watching it back a bit. But you refuse to answer his question properly.


Again, this thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. Whittingham gave away the ball about 8 times in 90 minutes. Rudy gave the ball away at least 4 times from what I can remember in less than half that time. Whittingham also has more possession of the ball therefore meaning as a percentage of his overall pass rate his giving away of the ball will be far lower.

Im not slating Rudy. I just found it funny that in one of his lesser performances he gets all the plaudits yet in previous weeks when he has done his job perfectly including a goal vs Peterborough he has been told to do one.

Face it, Rudy gets slated when we do poor. i.e. The Peterborough defeat even though he played well yet if we win and he plays not so well he gets the plaudits. He's being made a scapegoat and it ain't fair on him, he is only young and needs factual criticism, not the up and down emotional rollercoaster shit loads of fans like to spout.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:49 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
Merlin wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:Whitts gave the ball away alot more today and did nothing. Dont see anyone criticising him... :roll:


Stop trying to cause an issue. You have your opinion, other people have theirs. Deal with it.


So why not criticise Whittingham? thats all I'm asking. I'm not "trying to cause an issue" its a geniuing question. People want to slag off Rudy at any oppurtinity and cannot accept that he plays well.


Because Rudy was the player in question. This thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. I mentioned Cowie later on in the post because he's also another player who gets criticism. I did not slag off Rudy, I said its funny how on one of his not so great performances he gets the credit because of how the game turned out and the result. He has played fine in nearly every other game he's featured but today his touch was off by quite a bit and I can recall at least 4 times he lost possession. If anything, he was by far and large most useful at clearing our box.


No he wasn't - Cj was asking why you haven't criticised Whittingham's performance after he'd given away the ball on more than 7 or 8 occasions after watching it back a bit. But you refuse to answer his question properly.


Again, this thread is about Rudy, not Whittingham. Whittingham gave away the ball about 8 times in 90 minutes. Rudy gave the ball away at least 4 times from what I can remember in less than half that time. Whittingham also has more possession of the ball therefore meaning as a percentage of his overall pass rate his giving away of the ball will be far lower.

Im not slating Rudy. I just found it funny that in one of his lesser performances he gets all the plaudits yet in previous weeks when he has done his job perfectly including a goal vs Peterborough he has been told to do one.

Face it, Rudy gets slated when we do poor. i.e. The Peterborough defeat even though he played well yet if we win and he plays not so well he gets the plaudits. He's being made a scapegoat and it ain't fair on him, he is only young and needs factual criticism, not the up and down emotional rollercoaster shit loads of fans like to spout.


The thing is whittingham shouldnt be giving the ball away. He's meant to be our most talented player ands hes giving the ball away in our half. If Rudy lost he ball it would be further up the field. And Whittingham would also very often kick the ball a yard to far for a player to get to. He was very poor today not at his usual high standards.

Also how is it fair not to criticise Whittingham who gave the ball away often and slate Rudy? Can't pick and choose the rules for each player

Also the reason he's getting the plaudits is because he did very well in helping us get those 3 points today just as any other player would.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:54 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:The thing is whittingham shouldnt be giving the ball away. He's meant to be our most talented player ands hes giving the ball away in our half. If Rudy lost he ball it would be further up the field. And Whittingham would also very often kick the ball a yard to far for a player to get to. He was very poor today not at his usual high standards.


I understand your point but this thread was about Rudy so I gave an opinion on Rudy. Whittingham was poor at times I agree and a few times he passed to Kim and Kim had to turn out of trouble or drop it back to a defender to restart the move. Had this thread been about Whittingham I would have given my honest opinion on him.

In my opinion Rudy was lazy. If people think otherwise they are entitled to have that opinion but the first thing I would be doing if I was manager of the club would be telling Rudy to watch videos of Bellamy and gain an understanding of how to properly press, contain and when to apply that pressure.

If Rudy works on his pressing and touch he will become a very, very great asset.

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:08 pm

Rudy is rubbish. Cardiffs worst player and I can't see why people rave about him. Yes he scored against peterborough but that's all he did. Hes a shit jay bothroyd

Re: That New Striker Who Played Today...

Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:19 pm

Mikey27- dont agree. Hes still young aswell. Jay peaked at 28. He is important. He was important against liverpool and if we reach the PL we are certainly going to need someone to knock down longballs and hold up to slow down the faster game which on the whole he does well. Were not going to be able to play nice football all the time against the big dogs. Jay scores more goals, rudy could be just as effective in attack but as a provider. He showed it today