McNaughton's last game for us?

I love Kev, likeable person, never lets us down effort wise and he always runs his guts out for us. But unfortunately, he doesn't have the footballing ability to be part of a promotion winning team to the Premiership. His crossing and distribution always lets him down and Peterborough dominated possession and controlled the majority of the game, largely because McNaughton kept gifting possession back to them. With the rumours of us going for a new right back in January, I think this might be McNaughton's last game for us. He's been a terrific servant and I thank him for his efforts, but the signing of a new right back will put McNaughton well down the pecking order, and he won't be good enough to win his place back.

He will still have a part to play IMO.

Still the best defender we have at the club by far.

Still the best defender we have at the club by far.

What?

We have looked better with Connolly at right back. He's better defensively and is
more of a threat going forward.

McNaughton threatens to deceive when he 'bombs' forward. He looks exciting but his
final ball is awful.

Connolly, when he is in the opponents half, takes up more intelligent positions, links
up well with Noone, can play intelligent balls through AND is a goal threat.

If we get this Derby lad in. Superkev will not get back in the side

I've been thinking this for a while to be honest, I love him but I can't see him sticking around much longer. He'll have his part to play this season but I can't see him making the step u to the premier league, as much as it pains me to say it. And to say he's the best defender at the club is ridiculous - Hudson, Turner and Connolly are all better than him and Taylor's distribution puts him just ahead of Kev when it comes to overall ability.

Still the best defender we have at the club by far.

What?

We have looked better with Connolly at right back. He's better defensively and is
more of a threat going forward.

McNaughton threatens to deceive when he 'bombs' forward. He looks exciting but his
final ball is awful.

Connolly, when he is in the opponents half, takes up more intelligent positions, links
up well with Noone, can play intelligent balls through AND is a goal threat.

If we get this Derby lad in. Superkev will not get back in the side

Although i agree that his final ball is awful, i totally disagree with all that to be fair.

I think Kev is BY FAR better defensively. Just count the amount of times he gets beaten by his winger (it's never) and how many times he covers in behind the defence, sweeps up, or makes a crucial last-ditch tackle in the box that saves a goal.

Unfortunately, the fans are losing patience with him at the moment because of his poor distribution, but personally for all the reasons i just said, i'd still have him in the team every week because for me, that's the most important part of a defenders job. I really believe we're lucky to have him.

Still the best defender we have at the club by far.

What?

We have looked better with Connolly at right back. He's better defensively and is
more of a threat going forward.

McNaughton threatens to deceive when he 'bombs' forward. He looks exciting but his
final ball is awful.

Connolly, when he is in the opponents half, takes up more intelligent positions, links
up well with Noone, can play intelligent balls through AND is a goal threat.

If we get this Derby lad in. Superkev will not get back in the side

Although i agree that his final ball is awful, i totally disagree with all that to be fair.

I think Kev is BY FAR better defensively. Just count the amount of times he gets beaten by his winger (it's never) and how many times he covers in behind the defence, sweeps up, or makes a crucial last-ditch tackle in the box that saves a goal.

Unfortunately, the fans are losing patience with him at the moment because of his poor distribution, but personally for all the reasons i just said, i'd still have him in the team every week because for me, that's the most important part of a defenders job. I really believe we're lucky to have him.

We have looked much more solid at the back these last few weeks without him. you cant
argue with that.

I dont blame him for that second goal Saturday though. He was left with two men running at him and
to be fair to them, they were clinical

Still the best defender we have at the club by far.

What?

We have looked better with Connolly at right back. He's better defensively and is
more of a threat going forward.

McNaughton threatens to deceive when he 'bombs' forward. He looks exciting but his
final ball is awful.

Connolly, when he is in the opponents half, takes up more intelligent positions, links
up well with Noone, can play intelligent balls through AND is a goal threat.

If we get this Derby lad in. Superkev will not get back in the side

Although i agree that his final ball is awful, i totally disagree with all that to be fair.

I think Kev is BY FAR better defensively. Just count the amount of times he gets beaten by his winger (it's never) and how many times he covers in behind the defence, sweeps up, or makes a crucial last-ditch tackle in the box that saves a goal.

Unfortunately, the fans are losing patience with him at the moment because of his poor distribution, but personally for all the reasons i just said, i'd still have him in the team every week because for me, that's the most important part of a defenders job. I really believe we're lucky to have him.

We have looked much more solid at the back these last few weeks without him. you cant
argue with that.

I dont blame him for that second goal Saturday though. He was left with two men running at him and
to be fair to them, they were clinical

Nah i do agree with you that he hasn't had the best of seasons to be fair, probably his worst.

But i genuinely do think that given how brilliant he's been for us over the years, we should have just a little patience with him.Everyone goes through bad form in their career, but he hasn't become a bad player overnight! I just really hope people can see past his poor distribution and re-realise what a great defender he is. There's a reason he won our player of the year a few seasons ago.

Remember folk wanted to drop Hudson and play Kev centre half

TA I think you was one of them

Scott arent you the guy who thinks Mcnaughton is the best full back in the country including the PL?

After Kev found touch for the fourth or fifth time in the first half whilst (I assume) trying to pass to one of our players, Craig Bellamy who was about 20 yards in front of me looked straight at Kev and said "your f*cking crap."

Obviously, we all found it highly amusing.

He was awful, simply awful. And to think we let Darcy go for a pittance.

I thought the same, felt a little bit sad really as I like him but can't see him starting again and if we bring another full back in he won't even make the squad.

He has been a good servant to our club, but I feel he is not a first team player anymore, in fact has been a liability this season, especially v Peterborough. Makes loads of runs, but his final pass is awful,caught out by the opposition and not good enough over all to be in the first 11, just my opinion.

Distribution is diabolical and has been for some time now. Gets caught trying to turn the wrong way defensively too often now too - he could have played a simple back pass to Marshall early on but tried to hoof the ball down the line and ended up giving them a throw in a dangerous position which set the tome for his overall performance on Saturday.

Great servant but he has been found out I'm afraid and as there is no room for sentiment he is no longer a first team player. Maybe worth a place on the bench to cover for injuries, but I agree that keeping Darcy for all his faults would have been the better long term option.

Scott arent you the guy who thinks Mcnaughton is the best full back in the country including the PL?

Polo, does a day ever go by where you don't spend about 10 hours a day on this messageboard?

Genuine question.

Don't know you personally or whether you work/leave the house/have any sort of social life, and though i would guess not, i'm sure you'll tell me otherwise with some sort of sarcy response which will make you feel better about yourself because, hey, at least you're popular online.

He has been a good servant to our club, but I feel he is not a first team player anymore, in fact has been a liability this season, especially v Peterborough. Makes loads of runs, but his final pass is awful,caught out by the opposition and not good enough over all to be in the first 11, just my opinion.

Annis, i don't agree that defensively he is ever (or at least very rarely) caught out by the opposition, though as i've said i do agree that his passing is awful.

I would happily admit i'm wrong there if anyone can point me out a few examples of goals which have been his fault this season or last, but i really don't think there are any.

I genuinely just think people are blinded to the fact that he's a great defender because he doesn't do the attacking side of the role well. Just my opinion.

He's struggling at the moment and personally its sad to see. He's a long servant of this club now & a bit of a cult hero.

Personally, I think it's no coincidence that Kev's struggles have coincided with the arrival of Mackay as manager. With Dave Jones, the full backs were there to defend & defend only. This is what Kev is/was excellent at & consequently he was one of the first names on the team sheet.

When Malky arrived, he expected the full backs to take in a more attacking role, which involves being higher up the pitch and passing the ball more, thus highlighting Kev's main weakness, he can't pass!

It's a shame, but Connelly has shown him up.

He's struggling at the moment and personally its sad to see. He's a long servant of this club now & a bit of a cult hero.

Personally, I think it's no coincidence that Kev's struggles have coincided with the arrival of Mackay as manager. With Dave Jones, the full backs were there to defend & defend only. This is what Kev is/was excellent at & consequently he was one of the first names on the team sheet.

When Malky arrived, he expected the full backs to take in a more attacking role, which involves being higher up the pitch and passing the ball more, thus highlighting Kev's main weakness, he can't pass!

It's a shame, but Connelly has shown him up.

Spot on i think... until you say Connolly has shown him up that is

I would still pick Kev over him on ability any day of the week, if not on form at the moment.

I'm not sure Connolly is a full-back that suits the attacking role either, if i'm honest!

Kev will be playing at Sheffield Wednesday next season.

Sad because he's served us well, but we need to shed the likes of Kev, Cowie, Gestede etc if we want to improve as a team.

Mc Naughton just needs to concentrate on his passing and he will be ok.
Everything else is good.
He's saved us loads of times

Scott arent you the guy who thinks Mcnaughton is the best full back in the country including the PL?

Polo, does a day ever go by where you don't spend about 10 hours a day on this messageboard?

Genuine question.

Don't know you personally or whether you work/leave the house/have any sort of social life, and though i would guess not, i'm sure you'll tell me otherwise with some sort of sarcy response which will make you feel better about yourself because, hey, at least you're popular online.

You would guess wrong I am afraid.

I post on average 16 times a day so hardly spend 10 hours a day here. Having an office based job it is easy to pop on here every few hours.

My social life is fine thanks, not as exciting as it once was but with a young family I cant grumble. I still get to go to the football with my mates, and also go on the session and get wired a couple of times a months. I am happy with that.

Not that I needed to explain myself but I am bored and it is cheaper to come on here than online casinos

If he's given some extra time on the training pitch to work on his passing, he's fine. I prefer him at RB to Connolly because he get's into forward positions quickly that Connolly cant. It's easily noticeable. Defensively I think he's better too, Connolly had a mare on saturday and he was the only one who didn't stand out for me at Blackburn, he was at fault of the goal standing on the wrong side of the defender.

When Smith is back I'd like to see Kev back in the starting lineup, he plays better with Smith in front of him as I said in another thread.

Was he injured Saturday or did he go down the tunnel in a sulk ?

If he's given some extra time on the training pitch to work on his passing, he's fine. I prefer him at RB to Connolly because he get's into forward positions quickly that Connolly cant. It's easily noticeable. Defensively I think he's better too, Connolly had a mare on saturday and he was the only one who didn't stand out for me at Blackburn, he was at fault of the goal standing on the wrong side of the defender.

When Smith is back I'd like to see Kev back in the starting lineup, he plays better with Smith in front of him as I said in another thread.

Spot on. Malkys system likes to have his wingers cutting in so the fullbacks are expected to bomb on. This is what caught us out against peterborough. As I said before funny how Mcnaughton has stopped playing well since Malky has taken over.

I think Taylor is a bigger liabilty. Gets caught out of positions time after time again. And nearly cost several goals saturday.

Thank god we no longer have trench warfare because the Cardiff pals division would have the shortest life expectancy...Fcuk being in a trench with some of our fans.

The guy is not having the best of seasons, is obviously feeling the pressure and knows himself he is not playing well but he was not playing any worse than Turner, just more noticeable when the ball goes out of play rather than straight to the oppositions centre half or goalie.

Thank god we no longer have trench warfare because the Cardiff pals division would have the shortest life expectancy...Fcuk being in a trench with some of our fans.

The guy is not having the best of seasons, is obviously feeling the pressure and knows himself he is not playing well but he was not playing any worse than Turner, just more noticeable when the ball goes out of play rather than straight to the oppositions centre half or goalie.

Agree about Turner, but Kev has been consistently poor since Malky has arrived. I don't think thats being disloyal, just honest. Kev has been a great servant, but many seem to think his best days are behind him. I also agree that Kev plays better with Smith, but only because Smith drops back when he goes forward. That doesn't work for me either as personally I would rather Smith go forward and Kev stay back as Smith rarely gives the ball away unlike kev who does constantly.

Thank god we no longer have trench warfare because the Cardiff pals division would have the shortest life expectancy...Fcuk being in a trench with some of our fans.

The guy is not having the best of seasons, is obviously feeling the pressure and knows himself he is not playing well but he was not playing any worse than Turner, just more noticeable when the ball goes out of play rather than straight to the oppositions centre half or goalie.

Agree about Turner, but Kev has been consistently poor since Malky has arrived. I don't think thats being disloyal, just honest. Kev has been a great servant, but many seem to think his best days are behind him. I also agree that Kev plays better with Smith, but only because Smith drops back when he goes forward. That doesn't work for me either as personally I would rather Smith go forward and Kev stay back as Smith rarely gives the ball away unlike kev who does constantly.

But thats not Malkys tactics though. Under jones it wasnt Kevs game to go forward as we had wingers in front of him who would want to beat a man. Under Malky he wants his wide men cutting in so the full back is expected to bomb in into the space created. Look on the opposite side Taylor has good distribution but is a rubbish defender

I also agree that Kev plays better with Smith, but only because Smith drops back when he goes forward. That doesn't work for me either as personally I would rather Smith go forward and Kev stay back as Smith rarely gives the ball away unlike kev who does constantly.

Good points.

Call me old fashioned but let defenders defend, and attackers attack. Unless you are excellent at both, in which case you wouldnt be playing at this level, then stick to the basics.

That said a full back does need to be able to pass even if he isnt bombing forward, and Kevs passing is atrocious. He cant even play a 5 yard ball without looking uncomfortable.

Thank god we no longer have trench warfare because the Cardiff pals division would have the shortest life expectancy...Fcuk being in a trench with some of our fans.

The guy is not having the best of seasons, is obviously feeling the pressure and knows himself he is not playing well but he was not playing any worse than Turner, just more noticeable when the ball goes out of play rather than straight to the oppositions centre half or goalie.

Agree about Turner, but Kev has been consistently poor since Malky has arrived. I don't think thats being disloyal, just honest. Kev has been a great servant, but many seem to think his best days are behind him. I also agree that Kev plays better with Smith, but only because Smith drops back when he goes forward. That doesn't work for me either as personally I would rather Smith go forward and Kev stay back as Smith rarely gives the ball away unlike kev who does constantly.

But thats not Malkys tactics though. Under jones it wasnt Kevs game to go forward as we had wingers in front of him who would want to beat a man. Under Malky he wants his wide men cutting in so the full back is expected to bomb in into the space created. Look on the opposite side Taylor has good distribution but is a rubbish defender

But Jones isn't the manager anymore and Kev has failed to adapt to Malky's tactics as his distribution is simply not good enough for that role.

Thank god we no longer have trench warfare because the Cardiff pals division would have the shortest life expectancy...Fcuk being in a trench with some of our fans.

The guy is not having the best of seasons, is obviously feeling the pressure and knows himself he is not playing well but he was not playing any worse than Turner, just more noticeable when the ball goes out of play rather than straight to the oppositions centre half or goalie.

Agree about Turner, but Kev has been consistently poor since Malky has arrived. I don't think thats being disloyal, just honest. Kev has been a great servant, but many seem to think his best days are behind him. I also agree that Kev plays better with Smith, but only because Smith drops back when he goes forward. That doesn't work for me either as personally I would rather Smith go forward and Kev stay back as Smith rarely gives the ball away unlike kev who does constantly.

But thats not Malkys tactics though. Under jones it wasnt Kevs game to go forward as we had wingers in front of him who would want to beat a man. Under Malky he wants his wide men cutting in so the full back is expected to bomb in into the space created. Look on the opposite side Taylor has good distribution but is a rubbish defender

But Jones isn't the manager anymore and Kev has failed to adapt to Malky's tactics as his distribution is simply not good enough for that role.

Of course I understand that but you could say the same for whittingham. he's playing no where near his best due to Malkys tactics.