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Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:44 pm

But anyone watching Sky Sports 1 right now can't deny that he talks a lot of sense! (The Footballers Football Show), very good watch right now about the finances in the Premier League.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:46 pm

he is a good chairman in all fairness, but he does know that he's a doing good job and that there's not many chairmen like him, and he does milk the attention! :lol: him and Dave Whelan are exactly the same!

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:46 pm

Watching. Speaks a lot of sense.

Still a gypo though. :lol:

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:47 pm

scotsjack wrote:But anyone watching Sky Sports 1 right now can't deny that he talks a lot of sense! (The Footballers Football Show), very good watch right now about the finances in the Premier League.

Had a quick chat with him this morning, his house is just a couple of hundred yards from mine, he is decent enough to be honest.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:48 pm

carlccfc wrote:
scotsjack wrote:But anyone watching Sky Sports 1 right now can't deny that he talks a lot of sense! (The Footballers Football Show), very good watch right now about the finances in the Premier League.

Had a quick chat with him this morning, his house is just a couple of hundred yards from mine, he is decent enough to be honest.

should chat him into giving us Graham :lol:

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:49 pm

Him and Daniel levy are easily the best two chairmen in the Prem.


Don't take any nonsense and keep the club's spending within its means.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:52 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Watching. Speaks a lot of sense.

Still a gypo though. :lol:


carlccfc wrote:Had a quick chat with him this morning, his house is just a couple of hundred yards from mine, he is decent enough to be honest.


:shock:

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:23 pm

Very good chairman.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:01 pm

CalShepCCFC wrote:he is a good chairman in all fairness, but he does know that he's a doing good job and that there's not many chairmen like him, and he does milk the attention! :lol: him and Dave Whelan are exactly the same!


People seem to think Wigan are a well run club because they don't spend much money, they're not. They've got debts similar to yours and even though the debts are owed to Whelan and are very unlikely to be called in they run on a loss every year.

He's a great chairman but the credit must go to the board for how the club has been run so well in the past 10 years.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:07 pm

Still a tw*t

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:09 pm

SCFC wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:he is a good chairman in all fairness, but he does know that he's a doing good job and that there's not many chairmen like him, and he does milk the attention! :lol: him and Dave Whelan are exactly the same!


People seem to think Wigan are a well run club because they don't spend much money, they're not. They've got debts similar to yours and even though the debts are owed to Whelan and are very unlikely to be called in they run on a loss every year.

He's a great chairman but the credit must go to the board for how the club has been run so well in the past 10 years.


Begs the question what would happen if we went into administration and started a fresh (not having a pop). Although the finances of the game have not doubt changed considerably in ten years I guess.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:12 pm

scotsjack wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Watching. Speaks a lot of sense.

Still a gypo though. :lol:


carlccfc wrote:Had a quick chat with him this morning, his house is just a couple of hundred yards from mine, he is decent enough to be honest.


:shock:



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:16 pm

carlccfc wrote:
scotsjack wrote:But anyone watching Sky Sports 1 right now can't deny that he talks a lot of sense! (The Footballers Football Show), very good watch right now about the finances in the Premier League.

Had a quick chat with him this morning, his house is just a couple of hundred yards from mine, he is decent enough to be honest.



Carlos, I have heard from people within their Club(u know who) how well he has run their club financially and how well run it is behind the scenes. That I must applaud him on, but they are still NO 2 to us in support. :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:35 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
scotsjack wrote:But anyone watching Sky Sports 1 right now can't deny that he talks a lot of sense! (The Footballers Football Show), very good watch right now about the finances in the Premier League.

Had a quick chat with him this morning, his house is just a couple of hundred yards from mine, he is decent enough to be honest.



Carlos, I have heard from people within their Club(u know who) how well he has run their club financially and how well run it is behind the scenes. That I must applaud him on, but they are still NO 2 to us in support. :lol: :ayatollah:

Support and hygiene

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:48 pm

The Jack's had a long term strategy and stuck to it. Luckily for them, it worked better than they could ever have imagined. Managers come and go but the strategy stays in place on and off the field. Very few clubs or fans would have the patience for it. You have to respect that. It's the only way such a tiny club can prosper.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:44 pm

Easy for him with their success.

Wonder how he would have got on if they had missed out, or with Martin Morgan's support.

Didn't exactly make a success of his own business did he ?


For years he just made a fool of himself, so full of bitterness toward us, now he isn't harping on about that he sounds a lot better.

One of the best football finance articles here and their take on the last few years at Swansea.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2011/ ... -time.html


However I would give him credit for picking good managers - especially Martinez.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:12 pm

Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:30 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Easy for him with their success.

Wonder how he would have got on if they had missed out, or with Martin Morgan's support.

Didn't exactly make a success of his own business did he ?


For years he just made a fool of himself, so full of bitterness toward us, now he isn't harping on about that he sounds a lot better.

One of the best football finance articles here and their take on the last few years at Swansea.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2011/ ... -time.html


However I would give him credit for picking good managers - especially Martinez.


also they have had advantage over lot clubs, didnt need money to build stadium, no debt as such (administration) if we were in simular position so we wouldnt be in our position now! yes they are run well but like said they have had advantage of clean slate! so cannot be compared with anyone else really, and also will it last? very thew if any run at profit, and only way to do so is to do what they are doing now, but can they keep in premier on shoe string budget for players? that is question? been lucky so far with players brought in but again can they keep doing that! time will tell. but cannot fault them in way run club. :roll:

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:45 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

As has been the case since this board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:05 pm

He hasn't got a clue what he is doing.

Had he any idea he would have easily have capitalised on the potential of Swansea City.

He could have rebranded them and had their home kit a yellow like Brazil given the fluid style of football they play but no, he has no clue whatsoever.

The nickname the Swans is terrible for PR. They should have been called The Mighty Ducks to expand to America and target the Disney lovers.

A pink away kit would have targeted the ever growing female fan base.

Thankfully we have owners who are masters at brand awareness and generating income from foreign shores. Swansea will never make massive profits because only South Wales and England know of them really.

Jenkins doesn't have a clue. FACT!

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:20 pm

Anyone know whether you can watch this online or when/if its repeated?

Watched one with Simon Jordan on few months back who also came accross well to be fair.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:25 pm

MillarFromTheHalfWayLine wrote:Anyone know whether you can watch this online or when/if its repeated?

Watched one with Simon Jordan on few months back who also came accross well to be fair.


It's on Sky Anytime if you've got that.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:58 pm

NJ73 wrote:
MillarFromTheHalfWayLine wrote:Anyone know whether you can watch this online or when/if its repeated?

Watched one with Simon Jordan on few months back who also came accross well to be fair.


It's on Sky Anytime if you've got that.



Great Stuff, will have a look later, Thanks.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:09 pm

NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.




So you paid more in bonuses than Man City ?

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:15 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.




So you paid more in bonuses than Man City ?


I've no idea how much Man city pay in bonuses.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:16 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.




So you paid more in bonuses than Man City ?


"Bonuses and transfer fees were AMONG the reasons cited for the losses" actuall qoute in article not as you quoted above

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:19 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:He hasn't got a clue what he is doing.

Had he any idea he would have easily have capitalised on the potential of Swansea City.

He could have rebranded them and had their home kit a yellow like Brazil given the fluid style of football they play but no, he has no clue whatsoever.

The nickname the Swans is terrible for PR. They should have been called The Mighty Ducks to expand to America and target the Disney lovers.

A pink away kit would have targeted the ever growing female fan base.

Thankfully we have owners who are masters at brand awareness and generating income from foreign shores. Swansea will never make massive profits because only South Wales and England know of them really.

Jenkins doesn't have a clue. FACT!


You have some good ideas there! JBCCFC1927 for chairman! :D

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:36 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.




So you paid more in bonuses than Man City ?


"Bonuses and transfer fees were AMONG the reasons cited for the losses" actuall qoute in article not as you quoted above


Indeed, but the official accounts show the figures which back up my statement. The only reason we ran at a substantial loss was due to the bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked that the club knew could be paid for by balancing the books the following year with the Premier League money, as it what happened.

That's how the club is run.

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:50 pm

NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.




So you paid more in bonuses than Man City ?


"Bonuses and transfer fees were AMONG the reasons cited for the losses" actuall qoute in article not as you quoted above


Indeed, but the official accounts show the figures which back up my statement. The only reason we ran at a substantial loss was due to the bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked that the club knew could be paid for by balancing the books the following year with the Premier League money, as it what happened.

That's how the club is run.


Where were the official accounts published to back this up

Re: Huw Jenkins... you might hate him?

Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:52 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:Swansea lost something in the region of £8-12 million the year they got promoted and lets be honest only a small percentage of that would have been bonuses as these figures only reflected up to May of that promotion season and most players bonus would have been small but they would have had larger increases in wages which wouldn't have kicked in until June at the earliest. Without that promotion they would have been in a similiar boat to Cardiff(although not as drastic) having to sell players to finance their debt.


It was an £8.2m loss. The vast majority of which was down to bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked the second the final whistle blew at Wembley.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-16689224

board took over, and as Huw said on the programme last night, we only spend the money we bring in.




So you paid more in bonuses than Man City ?


"Bonuses and transfer fees were AMONG the reasons cited for the losses" actuall qoute in article not as you quoted above


Indeed, but the official accounts show the figures which back up my statement. The only reason we ran at a substantial loss was due to the bonuses and transfer clauses that were invoked that the club knew could be paid for by balancing the books the following year with the Premier League money, as it what happened.

That's how the club is run.


Where were the official accounts published to back this up


Companies House. As with all documents from there, available to anyone for £1.