Shale Gas decision reversed

great move to help the south wales economy. lets start digging!!!

Would you feel the same if they started digging. behind your house just wondering I'd probably be abit of a hypocrite on this itis good as long as its not near my house

Yeh! and lets have an earthquake where all the mine shafts under Merthyr implode sinking the town, you don't understand do you? how dangerous it is Fracking where there are old mines

Yeh! and lets have an earthquake where all the mine shafts under Merthyr implode sinking the town, you don't understand do you? how dangerous it is Fracking where there are old mines

Lets be honest would sinking Merthyr be such a bad thing.

billions for the welsh ecomony and thousands of jobs yet you lot dont want it.

billions for the welsh ecomony and thousands of jobs yet you lot dont want it.

After England take there big slice of the profits, it will hardly be worth it Lol

It will if you need a job and don't have one.

The company in Wales only have exploration rights, so it would be years before Fracking would start, and even if they did start, hopefully it will be via exothermic non hydrolic fracking which doesnt use water, people hear the work fracking and asume the worse will happen, the earthquake stuff is unfounded, a coincidense at best.

billions for the welsh ecomony and thousands of jobs yet you lot dont want it.

Surely even you don't believe that,do you?

It will if you need a job and don't have one.

Well if it does happen, then let's hope the jobs go to the people of wales and not the people of poland

the smallest of the sites is estimated to produce a profit of £2000 a day, If and only if their estimates of the resourse are correct, so not billions.

billions for the welsh ecomony and thousands of jobs yet you lot dont want it.

It won't be worth billions to the welsh economy! It will be worth billions to the british economy though. Wales will probably only see a small percentage of the profits

billions for the welsh ecomony and thousands of jobs yet you lot dont want it.

It won't be worth billions to the welsh economy! It will be worth billions to the british economy though. Wales will probably only see a small percentage of the profits

And so you keep on saying but Wales gets much of its money from Westminster so it will benefit Wales too. Much needed jobs is what the area requires yet you don't want it. The proof from the US also shows that it helps decrease the gas bills so that will also benefit the people of Wales.

billions for the welsh ecomony and thousands of jobs yet you lot dont want it.

It won't be worth billions to the welsh economy! It will be worth billions to the british economy though. Wales will probably only see a small percentage of the profits

And so you keep on saying but Wales gets much of its money from Westminster so it will benefit Wales too. Much needed jobs is what the area requires yet you don't want it. The proof from the US also shows that it helps decrease the gas bills so that will also benefit the people of Wales.

Where does it say I don't want it? Every little helps, but if you think its going to be worth billions to the welsh economy then you are deluded. Will the specialist jobs needed go to welsh workers? Will the manual labour jobs required go to welsh workers? Some yes, but I'm willing to bet a lot of the workforce will come from further a field...poland maybe? I'm not knocking it, but to try and make out its going to be some huge money tree for the welsh economy is short of the mark imo

cheaper gas for a fuggin start.... these things were supposed to get cheaper as life goes on werent they?
bottled gas is £52 a bottle and wont last a week in this weather!

Apparently I was working in Blackpool when the one of the minor earthquakes happened in Blackpool.

Didnt feel a thing.

I used to work next to Blackpool Airport and, occassionally, the buildings used to shake when a larger plane come in - The earthquake was nothing on that scale

The shale gas exploration is I would have thought dangerous especially if you live in the North Wales/west area & South Wales if you read this article

http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/cy/2002/

An earthquake could have devastating consequences for the nuclear power staions located at Anglesey & Heysham, Sellafield & Braystones & Kirkstanton in Cumbria & the residents nearby.

I cannot see the cost of our energy decreasing, it will give these energy companies another excuse to raise their prices unlike America & the areas which have the largest deposits (North West/Wales/ Cumbia/ East Midlands/North east) will not benefit from any long term investment it will all end up in London as all goverments have done previously as they have robbed & pillaged Britain from north of Watford for centuries.

Dont get ahead of yourself mr angry tw*t. We dont even know whether fracking is a viable option in the UK yet so hold fire on your jobs and billions of pounds, long way to go before anything concrete happens. I see your point though lets not a little thing like proof gas is there whether its financially, economically or environmentally viable to get in the way. How on earth were you never re-elected again? Oh thats right all your constituents were idiots.

The company in Wales only have exploration rights, so it would be years before Fracking would start, and even if they did start, hopefully it will be via exothermic non hydrolic fracking which doesnt use water, people hear the work fracking and asume the worse will happen, the earthquake stuff is unfounded, a coincidense at best.

Exothermic fracturing is currently experimental to a large degree in that the long term effects are not yet fully understood, hydraulic fracturing is well understood and potential effects known. It doesn't and cannot cause an earthquake as such but can activate ancient clay slips for example by the simple process of lubrication of the slip plane. Some of these very ancient slip planes are hundreds of metres below ground so could in theory bring down mountains. It's the usual old bollocks of some "expert" saying something which coincides with the flocks view or perception, the earthquake nonsense is quite simply nonsense, the UK has on average an earthquake every four or five days. They just happen to be very small ones 1 to 2 on the richter scale so generally only picked up by sensitive monitoring equipment.

Link to BGS (British Geological Society) website showing UK earthquakes in the last 50 days..

http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/

It's not the techniques of hydro fracking one should question but the disposal of the often highly contaminated discharge water and its effect on the environment. As a very simple example, if Nukes was to spend any time around this discharge water, a day or two, then the sensors where he works wouldn't let him!!

Would it create jobs in Wales? Yes, it would but not very many in the short and probably at the lower end of the spectrum as it's highly specialised but could result in Welsh folk returning home from their worldly travels which can only be a good thing in the longer term as the knowledge is then more likely to stay local.

When will you realise Brownie that the people of Merthyr and the valleys do not want jobs. They were born on the dole queue and they will die on the dole queue. It's a way off life for many and it's only got worse with 13 years under a labour government that actively encouraged the scroungers.

When will you realise Brownie that the people of Merthyr and the valleys do not want jobs. They were born on the dole queue and they will die on the dole queue. It's a way off life for many and it's only got worse with 13 years under a labour government that actively encouraged the scroungers.

we're not all like that up in the valleys but majority are

There is going to be an earthquake in Cardiff South wales.

I promise you that.

mark my words

Also fossil fuels are not the way forward greedy fucks with millions in the bank need to say hey, i've made my money im comfortable lets go green
if we dont go green fuel there will be a 2012 senario with in 25 years

To those on this thread who perceive the ex councillor as being a representative or spokesman for Merthyr please don't, we got enough issues to be going on with as it is and besides the Gurnos electorate fucked him off back to Donkey Island so he's more your problem now.

Cheers for giving him asylum.

dig,dig,dig!!!!

dig,dig,dig!!!!

Yeah your own grave you uneducated, ignorant idiot.

dig,dig,dig!!!!

Yeah your own grave you uneducated, ignorant idiot.

here we go the nampy pamby liberial is logged on.

[quote]Yeh! and lets have an earthquake where all the mine shafts under Merthyr implode sinking the town, you don't understand do you? how dangerous it is Fracking where there are old mines

Any chance of putting a few around Newport?

dig,dig,dig!!!!

Yeah your own grave you uneducated, ignorant idiot.

here we go the nampy pamby liberial is logged on.

nothing to do with liberalism my friend. I find it a dangerous activity to tell people billions of pounds and jobs are coming their way when at this moment in time nothing could be further from the truth.
you dont need to be a liberal to spot that your an idiot just a bit of common sense and a basic primary school education.

dig,dig,dig!!!!

Yeah your own grave you uneducated, ignorant idiot.

here we go the nampy pamby liberial is logged on.

nothing to do with liberalism my friend. I find it a dangerous activity to tell people billions of pounds and jobs are coming their way when at this moment in time nothing could be further from the truth.
you dont need to be a liberal to spot that your an idiot just a bit of common sense and a basic primary school education.

are you a greenpeace member..?

dig,dig,dig!!!!

Yeah your own grave you uneducated, ignorant idiot.

here we go the nampy pamby liberial is logged on.

nothing to do with liberalism my friend. I find it a dangerous activity to tell people billions of pounds and jobs are coming their way when at this moment in time nothing could be further from the truth.
you dont need to be a liberal to spot that your an idiot just a bit of common sense and a basic primary school education.

are you a greenpeace member..?

no even that question shows you havent fully read the whole story your just reading a headline and trying to look clever.

To answer your question, NO im not a member of greenpeace. Just lets get that one straight.

1. We dont know how much gas is below us, though I will admit the gas companies sound hopeful (but they do hope to make a lot of money from this). The current digging is purely exploratory ie no guarantee of any jobs or any money.

2. The promise that our energy rates will drop like it has in America cannot be substantiated. America has a whole continent to play with, we have a very small island.

I hope it works out and we get jobs and money and cheaper energy bills because of it, but like ive said before we are currently worlds apart if you think this will guarantee jobs or money in its current state.