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All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:34 pm

What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:35 pm

Okay.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:53 pm

Cheers for your input. We were all just craving it. :roll:

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:53 pm

Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


Correct. waste of money and energy.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:42 pm

shinyBlueGlue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


Correct. waste of money and energy.[/quot

Like a lot of posts on here. Considering more &more schools only teach thru medium of Welsh it's a funny result! And it depends on how people answered. Very subjective? If ask ten people a question and all say same answer but in fact they lied. Get distorted result. Same goes for sensors very distortd figures.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:27 pm

Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:08 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


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Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:13 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


No he's right actually Taffy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20677528

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:14 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


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SERIOUSLY THOUGH :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's as thick as f**k. I'm not getting into all this again with idiots

but Welsh (the language) is actually GROWING and there's not a statistic or poll he
can put up on here that can prove otherwise. So that means its not FAILING.

Rain man dont have to like it, but he DOES have to put up with it.

Or leave Wales

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:20 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


SERIOUSLY THOUGH :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's as thick as f**k. I'm not getting into all this again with idiots

but Welsh (the language) is actually GROWING and there's not a statistic or poll he
can put up on here that can prove otherwise. So that means its not FAILING.

Rain man dont have to like it, but he DOES have to put up with it.

Or leave Wales


Read the link above, according to the Census, the Welsh language has fallen over the last decade. I think Adam meant to say fallen.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:24 pm

No ! what it is, is that more people who don't speak Welsh has moved into Wales so they are being counted in that census.
More and more people who don't speak Welsh has come to live in Wales and the older welsh speaking people has died so the population has gone up because of the non welsh speakers from other country's. You try get your child into a Welsh speaking school and you will see how hard it is.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:25 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:No ! what it is, is that more people who don't speak Welsh has moved into Wales so they are being counted in that census.
More and more people who don't speak Welsh has come to live in Wales and the older welsh speaking people has died so the population has gone up because of the non welsh speakers from other country's. You try get your child into a Welsh speaking school and you will see how hard it is.


Actually, you raise a good point about immigration.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:30 pm

There's also increases in the amount of young children speaking Welsh which is surely a good thing.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:42 pm

Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


Wasted on Welsh?
Looking at your spelling/grammar any money spent on your education was wasted.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:54 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


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SERIOUSLY THOUGH :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's as thick as f**k. I'm not getting into all this again with idiots

but Welsh (the language) is actually GROWING and there's not a statistic or poll he
can put up on here that can prove otherwise. So that means its not FAILING.

Rain man dont have to like it, but he DOES have to put up with it.

Or leave Wales


Its NOT growing you tw*t!!!! :lol: :lol:

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:10 pm

Angry Man wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


SERIOUSLY THOUGH :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's as thick as f**k. I'm not getting into all this again with idiots

but Welsh (the language) is actually GROWING and there's not a statistic or poll he
can put up on here that can prove otherwise. So that means its not FAILING.

Rain man dont have to like it, but he DOES have to put up with it.

Or leave Wales


Its NOT growing you tw*t!!!! :lol: :lol:


Shut the door on your way out eh?

You'll be missed terribly

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:14 pm

Angry Man wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.


You should concentrate on English you thick c**t. Its "Failing"

Your the wrong person to talk about politics seeing as you are an abject failure as
a politician


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


SERIOUSLY THOUGH :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's as thick as f**k. I'm not getting into all this again with idiots

but Welsh (the language) is actually GROWING and there's not a statistic or poll he
can put up on here that can prove otherwise. So that means its not FAILING.

Rain man dont have to like it, but he DOES have to put up with it.

Or leave Wales


Its NOT growing you tw*t!!!! :lol: :lol:


Throughout Wales you are quite correct the number is falling. That's because numbers are falling rapidly in the traditional heartlands. However the numbers are increasing rapidly in Cardiff, the Valleys and Gwent. The figures for individual areas will be announced in the New Year.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:47 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:No ! what it is, is that more people who don't speak Welsh has moved into Wales so they are being counted in that census.
More and more people who don't speak Welsh has come to live in Wales and the older welsh speaking people has died so the population has gone up because of the non welsh speakers from other country's. You try get your child into a Welsh speaking school and you will see how hard it is.

fair point.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:06 pm

Any So called Welshman that says Welsh is a dead Language is not a true Welshman. If he was he would do his best and all he can to save the language. Welsh is the oldest of all the European languages, men have lost there lives in defense of this country and its Freedom for the Language.
Welsh school nearly always come out on top of other school, and the kids leave with better chances in life than the standard english school. Thats why so many parents want to try get there kids into Welsh schools.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:13 pm

To be honest Im so sick of arguing with Plastic Welshmen & Welshmen that wont to be english ,I dont give a shit about you plastic fkers Hwyl :)

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:22 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:To be honest Im so sick of arguing with Plastic Welshmen & Welshmen that wont to be english ,I dont give a shit about you plastic fkers Hwyl :)


Have a day off ffs. you and taffyapple the new wra ffs.
It makes you no less Welsh if you speak/want the language or not. The majority dont speak it and they are as Welsh as you, difference is, they are not as anti British as you !

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:29 pm

Why do people send their kids to Welsh schools ? It was quite a middle class wannabe thing to do in the 90's, then mass immigration hammered the education system to the point it was considered the best thing to send them to Welsh mediums schools- not many immigrants want to learn Welsh.

As to the better exam results, as usual statistics can tell you anything. The average salary of parents sending their offspring to Welsh medium schools is higher than those sending theirs to standard state schools. Compare like for like i.e Ysgol Llanharri to Y-Pant and you will see the a truer comparison.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:32 pm

"The majority don't speak it and they are as Welsh as you, difference is, they are not as anti British as you !"

I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, it is interesting that nearly 2/3 identified as 'Welsh only' as opposed to 'Welsh/ British'.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:47 pm

What does speaking welsh actually achieve?
Most of the fuckers from the valleys can't speak English or welsh.

Do news channels purposely interview the thickest person they can find because some times it's imbarrising to hear a welsh person speak.

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:56 pm

kingdong wrote:What does speaking welsh actually achieve?
Most of the fuckers from the valleys can't speak English or welsh.


Do news channels purposely interview the thickest person they can find because some times it's imbarrising to hear a welsh person speak.


Thats true

thing is, half of these keep Wales speaking Welsh brigade are clueless. Wales could never survive on its own and the Welsh Language drags it down.
1 reason is because of the extra money and effort that goes into it, instead invest in small businesses, better condition of schools, better jobs.

The Welsh nationalists who think because you speak Welsh makes you a better Welshman can still jizz off to the language

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:20 pm

tcblue wrote:"The majority don't speak it and they are as Welsh as you, difference is, they are not as anti British as you !"

I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, it is interesting that nearly 2/3 identified as 'Welsh only' as opposed to 'Welsh/ British'.


its not case of anti english/british, its people on here trashing welsh language which is our identity, same as french, spanish ect ect is that countries identity! ffs everyone is on here about city losing their identity? nowthey are happy to see wales lose identity! :roll:
and if didnt waste money on language they will waste it on themselves or something as stupid!! :?:

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:34 pm

KEEP WELSH LANGUAGE ALIVE. IF IT COSTS MONEY THEN SPEND IT. :ayatollah:

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:34 pm

Angry Man wrote:What a f*cking waste of money which should have been spend on health, education and other valuable areas.



Angry Man does the Welsh language affect your business then?, I presume it would & this may be the real reason you are so against & resent the language?

Does it cost you have to translate documents?

I work in an organisation that uses agency workers when required & the cv's I read are all the same word for word except for their names & lies about their skills & are full of spelling errors, hope you spell check yours?

I really feel sorry for anyone who works for these agencies, the prices they charge organisations is exorbitant while paying the staff poorly & blackmailing them into attending courses that they pay for.

Employment Agencies are a bunch of crooks




:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:53 pm

ninianblue wrote:KEEP WELSH LANGUAGE ALIVE. IF IT COSTS MONEY THEN SPEND IT. :ayatollah:


Would you say the same thing if you were homeless through no fault of your own, knowing that more money gets
spent on keeping this stupid pointless language alive than looking after the vulnerable for example

Re: All the money spend on Welsh and its falling!!!

Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:59 pm

But is it really dying?
Certainly in older people it is falling (as older people who were fluent in it die).
But in younger people it is growing. I've read one statistic from the census that 30% of welsh speakers are now under 16. Which means teaching it in schools and to young people is working. These young people will grow older, have kids and they will also probably learn Welsh. I'd say the language is in quite a good position as long as grumps like Angry Man are ignored.