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' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:30 pm

Very interested in your opinions.

Should you be banned for this?
If yes, even if you run straight back to your seats?
Have we gone to far?
I rem a Cardiff fan jumping on and hugging Chopra after Chops had scored v the Jacks, he got a 5yr ban, passport taken,signing at the police station every time Wales play and every time Cardiff play for the next 5 years banned from the City Centre of Cardiff.
In the 70's/80's and 90's if fans ran on the pitch and celebrated with a player and ran back off,nothing happened, in fact the tv would go on about how great the celebrations were etc.

Sorry its a pic from Westham :oops:
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Re: SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS?

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:37 pm

Gone way to far IMO ,Celebrating with your own player in you own stadium is not an offense for me.In the 90's when a lot of lads moved to the canton ,everytime we scored we used to try and invade the pitch. I remember the stewards would lead you back to the stand if you got on. No problem at all :ayatollah:

Re: SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS?

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:38 pm

Not for goal celebrations i loved them :ayatollah:
But you can see why fans are banned from going onto the pitch as that dirty leeds fans showed against sheff wed

Re: SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS?

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Very interested in your opinions.

Should you be banned for this?
If yes, even if you run straight back to your seats?
Have we gone to far?
I rem a Cardiff fan jumping on and hugging Chopra after Chops had scored v the Jacks, he got a 5yr ban, passport taken,signing at the police station every time Wales play and every time Cardiff play for the next 5 years banned from the City Centre of Cardiff.
In the 70's/80's and 90's if fans ran on the pitch and celebrated with a player and ran back off,nothing happened, in fact the tv would go on about how great the celebrations were etc.

Sorry its a pic from Westham :oops:

no way.the fans are in celebrationary mood.no threat to the players.i have no prob with that leeds kid getting banned.different kettle of fish to hugging a goalscorer.worst case should be a talking too and told not to do it again.

Re: SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS?

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:40 pm

Depends what the circumstances are I suppose. But still believe there should be some kind of ban in place even if your just celebrating on the pitch and with your own players.

Fans could be on the pitch every time we score or win and that's not a good thing.

I do like the pitch invasions though at big games such as Leeds in the FA Cup even though that turned a bit sour.

The ban the lad got for celebrating with Chopra is very very harsh!

Re: SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS?

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:48 pm

I don't think you should be banned, as long as it doesn't get out of hand with hundreds of fans on the pitch for a goal, there's no problem IMO

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:51 pm

From Facebook

Matthew Alm(CCFC)
my mate had a 3 year ban for hugging chopra in plymouth after he scores and he was only about 2 yards away from the stand on the gravel


Phil Dunne(Bradford City)
Rules/ regulations gone nuts!


Nigel Pepper(CCFC)
NO !!



Mick Tambs(Wolves)
No way the lads in high spirits I got a 5 year ban for disturbances in digneth bham v wolves big difference no he should not be banned



Robert Mitchell (Stoke)
nop. its just fans loving that moment



Mick Tambs (Wolves)
It's a joke annis your risking your liability just going to a match now ob are just waiting for anything and if nothing happens theyl provoke it I've been pinned up the wall in wton pushed and called scum by ob when I had my young son with me it was a nothing going to happen game FFs the judge would just see a thug here the lads prob never hurt noone in his life and now he can't even watch his team disgrace mate


Ian Ryall(CCFC)
Shouldn't be banned ! But football politics killing the game /supporters eventually the crowd will dwindle !

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:01 pm

And Chopra nicked his wallet as well :lol: :lol:

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:09 pm

if there was no punishment then everyone would run on .... but a 5 year ban :shock: ... id say maybe a 2 match ban would be enough! ... what if a player jumps into the crowd what ban would he get? cantona had 9 months for jumping in and kicking a fan remember!

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:10 pm

Definately not - this is taking things way too far!

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:15 pm

AHERNE wrote:if there was no punishment then everyone would run on .... but a 5 year ban :shock: ... id say maybe a 2 match ban would be enough! ... what if a player jumps into the crowd what ban would he get? cantona had 9 months for jumping in and kicking a fan remember!


But fans did for 80 years and not everyone went on.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:24 pm

The thing is it was so mental in the 80's that they don't want a glimpse of any of these kind of things happening again :( IMO you should get a one match ban if they find out who you are for running on the pitch but I suppose the old bill will think everyone will run on all the time and go to the home/away end and it will all go off. Also, after what that dirty sly Leeds scum b*stard did to Kirkland I don't think they will ever drop the punishments. The only reason punishments are so harsh these days for fighting etc is because they fear It will all be mental again. But football violence has never been about 20 lads running up to an old lady and beating the shit out of her, although that's what the authorities make it out to be. I don't see a problem with 2 sets of lads having a little scrap. I think fighting at the football should get you a four match ban or something, the punishments they give out these days are absolutely ridiculous, although I do see why they do it.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:25 pm

Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of fans each week manage to celebrate goals being scored without feeling the need to run on the pitch.

Without the threat of the punishment, it would be a free for all and there would be far more cases like the Leeds fan the other day.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:38 pm

I think the point is you can't have hundreds of fans swarming on the field so it has to be a rule that no one is allowed on. That's when crowds can get out of control and the silly ones spoil it for all. We've all seen players hit.
The celebration and hugging the player isn't the problem, you have to stay off the field.
If the player wants to lean against the wall and hug a few fans why not.
In the NFL the players often jump on the wall after scoring to be grabbed by fans as its traditional and fun.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:20 pm

The City fan getting banned for 5 years, with signing and all that is too far. There's nothing wrong with a handful of fans running on and hugging the players, if they do they should just be shown back to the stands.

However I can understand why they threaten with these bans, imagine around 15,000 fans running on the pitch when Gunnar scored that winner against Watford?! :lol: Mayhem!

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:29 pm

nothing wrong with passion for your club. as long as you go straight back to your seat its fine

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:42 pm

NO :D

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:04 pm

NJ73 wrote:Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of fans each week manage to celebrate goals being scored without feeling the need to run on the pitch.

Without the threat of the punishment, it would be a free for all and there would be far more cases like the Leeds fan the other day.


Well during the 70s and 80s it was common practice for fans to run on the pitch. Common being when an important goal was scored like. The thing was not many fans did it and no opposing player got hurt. So why it is a no no today?

I cant agree with you that it would be a free all but got to admit after that idiot of a Leeds fan I would be uncomfortable if this was allowed to happen again.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:04 pm

LeedsServiceCrew wrote:NO :D

leedsshithousecrew

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:08 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of fans each week manage to celebrate goals being scored without feeling the need to run on the pitch.

Without the threat of the punishment, it would be a free for all and there would be far more cases like the Leeds fan the other day.


Well during the 70s and 80s it was common practice for fans to run on the pitch. Common being when an important goal was scored like. The thing was not many fans did it and no opposing player got hurt. So why it is a no no today?

I cant agree with you that it would be a free all but got to admit after that idiot of a Leeds fan I would be uncomfortable if this was allowed to happen again.


Well I've read that twice and still don't know where you stand on it!

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:18 pm

During that incident when he hugged Chopra then he shouldn't have.. Passion was running high and the stadium went into raptures.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:08 am

no way! passion for your club is not a crime! :ayatollah:

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:39 am

NJ73 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of fans each week manage to celebrate goals being scored without feeling the need to run on the pitch.

Without the threat of the punishment, it would be a free for all and there would be far more cases like the Leeds fan the other day.


Well during the 70s and 80s it was common practice for fans to run on the pitch. Common being when an important goal was scored like. The thing was not many fans did it and no opposing player got hurt. So why it is a no no today?

I cant agree with you that it would be a free all but got to admit after that idiot of a Leeds fan I would be uncomfortable if this was allowed to happen again.


Well I've read that twice and still don't know where you stand on it!


Simple really, I've not given a yes or no so I would say I'm not sure if it should be a ban or not for the action. However I dont agree with you that it would be a free for all. I think you are being a drama queen there.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:32 am

My mate got a 3 match ban up in Oldham on the first game of the season a few years ago. He went on the field of play at halftime and had a go with the ball then put the ball in the net to the pleasure of the city fans. After a caution from the police at the station he had a letter from city banning him for three games 2 of which were away. All because of a jobs worth Oldham steward.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:42 am

Outrageous.

Of course violence, hooliganism and racism is wrong but do I see any of that in this photo - NO. Did the guy hugging Chops participate in any of those things, No.

Way too far, they are turning football into a sterile passionless game.

Stupid.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:13 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of fans each week manage to celebrate goals being scored without feeling the need to run on the pitch.

Without the threat of the punishment, it would be a free for all and there would be far more cases like the Leeds fan the other day.


Well during the 70s and 80s it was common practice for fans to run on the pitch. Common being when an important goal was scored like. The thing was not many fans did it and no opposing player got hurt. So why it is a no no today?

I cant agree with you that it would be a free all but got to admit after that idiot of a Leeds fan I would be uncomfortable if this was allowed to happen again.


Well I've read that twice and still don't know where you stand on it!


Simple really, I've not given a yes or no so I would say I'm not sure if it should be a ban or not for the action. However I dont agree with you that it would be a free for all. I think you are being a drama queen there.


I rem about 25 years ago,City saving a penalty at Walsall I ran on the pitch, hugged our goalie and 200 of us ran back, pitch cleared in a minute, football resumed, no complaints from Walsall, the ref or police.:ayatollah:

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:34 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of fans each week manage to celebrate goals being scored without feeling the need to run on the pitch.

Without the threat of the punishment, it would be a free for all and there would be far more cases like the Leeds fan the other day.


Well during the 70s and 80s it was common practice for fans to run on the pitch. Common being when an important goal was scored like. The thing was not many fans did it and no opposing player got hurt. So why it is a no no today?

I cant agree with you that it would be a free all but got to admit after that idiot of a Leeds fan I would be uncomfortable if this was allowed to happen again.


Well I've read that twice and still don't know where you stand on it!


Simple really, I've not given a yes or no so I would say I'm not sure if it should be a ban or not for the action. However I dont agree with you that it would be a free for all. I think you are being a drama queen there.


I rem about 25 years ago,City saving a penalty at Walsall I ran on the pitch, hugged our goalie and 200 of us ran back, pitch cleared in a minute, football resumed, no complaints from Walsall, the ref or police.:ayatollah:



But it's not 1987 anymore. Football is a multi billion pound business that is trying to portray a family image where everyone no matter how older young or whatever race or gender can feel safe.

If you change the law so that anyone is allowed to run on the pitch then instances like the Leeds incident will happen with far more regularity. Try selling that to sponsors and foreign tv companies. Including Malaysians.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:43 am

I doubt it would be as regular as you are making out. That Leeds idiot is in prison. That will put of a majority of the idiots that follow football, even they don't want to go there.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:46 am

Bakedalasker wrote:I doubt it would be as regular as you are making out. That Leeds idiot is in prison. That will put of a majority of the idiots that follow football, even they don't want to go there.


And I disagree.

Re: ' SHOULD YOU BE BANNED FOR THIS? '

Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:50 am

NJ73 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I doubt it would be as regular as you are making out. That Leeds idiot is in prison. That will put of a majority of the idiots that follow football, even they don't want to go there.


And I disagree.


CCTV has basically killed football violence. So why do you think it will become a common thing supporters attacking players if spectators are allowed on a pitch.