What are peoples thoughts on Islamic Extremist Groups?

Freedom of Speech? Ignore them? or ban them and deport them to a non-democratic country

Execute them ourselves or send them somewhere willing to do so.

Just as bad as non Islamic extremist groups.

Leave them march with those vile signs then maching gun the fuckers

Leave them march with those vile signs then maching gun the fuckers

Machine gun I meant

I feel sorry for them. So much torment everyday from something that is supposed to give them guidance and a happy life.

They're doing it wrong.

Dont say anything, you will be labeled a nazi, troll, leader of the edl,stupid, all sorts.

They are my friends now infact I might become one and recruit the left wing lunnies on here and take over the css as a massive Mosque and preach hate

Nuke em!!

They should be banned in this country. What they do in their country is up to them.
If they dont like that they can always leave.

Freedom of speech? Like they believe in that. It is do what they say or you will be executed (stoned or decapitated).

All these politicians/people who support them have almost the same ideas - do as we say, or we will threaten, bully, ridicule you.

What about the women and womens rights? No education for them , no jobs, no driving cars. Women are slaves in Muslim societies.
Passed around in a family and made to do all the work. Remember there is no such thing (in reality) as rape in muslim countries, but a woman can be stoned to death for committing adultery, (the man gets no charges brought).

Women can be imprisoned for being attacked and raped (get your head around that).

All these muslims should be deported unless they openly and actively oppose the preachers of hate. The so called "silent majority" in the vast muslim community in this country are supporting them, but pretend not to when atrocities happen. They are the ones who can stop them by standing up to the extremists, but they choose not to.

Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing?

Freedom of Speech? Ignore them? or ban them and deport them to a non-democratic country

Shoot them on sight then dump them into the sea near france and no questions asked

Freedom of speech? Like they believe in that. It is do what they say or you will be executed (stoned or decapitated).

All these politicians/people who support them have almost the same ideas - do as we say, or we will threaten, bully, ridicule you.

What about the women and womens rights? No education for them , no jobs, no driving cars. Women are slaves in Muslim societies.
Passed around in a family and made to do all the work. Remember there is no such thing (in reality) as rape in muslim countries, but a woman can be stoned to death for committing adultery, (the man gets no charges brought).

Women can be imprisoned for being attacked and raped (get your head around that).

All these muslims should be deported unless they openly and actively oppose the preachers of hate. The so called "silent majority" in the vast muslim community in this country are supporting them, but pretend not to when atrocities happen. They are the ones who can stop them by standing up to the extremists, but they choose not to.

Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing?

This is the problem with theses threads - it starts of as an attack on "Islamic Extremists" then it degenerates into an attack on Muslims in general by the most ill-informed type of hate merchants (who cannot see the irony of their one-eyed stances). You are wrong on so levels here its beyond belief - if you had any idea about Muslims (and no I don't mean what you pick up off The Sun, The Star and EDL weekly or whatever it is you get your "knowledge" of Muslims from) you would know that in general the respect we have for our mothers, daughters, wives is un-rivalled. I don't recognise any of the above - in Islam the punishment for rape is DEATH for the perpertrator - women are not imprisoned for being attacked and raped in any way whatsoever in Islam, Women are educated (look at the UN stats for the Gulf countries, Jordan, Syria (beforethe civil war) etc etc where the levels of literacy are BETTER then some western countries - before you mention Afghanistan, that is a Cultural issue there NOT an Islamic one - Islam encourages education. Islam gave women rights of inheritance, education and a postion of honour 1400 years ago while parts of Western Europe still lived in caves!! Only 500 years ago Christian Western Europe held a conference to discuss if women had souls!!!
I don't deny there are examples of oppression but that is due to a number of factors - don't blame Islam for that. In the UK the last month has been all about child rape (NSPCC says in the UK that 1 in 9 -or 1 in 8 - children have been sexually abused!!!!)- do we say any Briton who doesn't openly condemn it secretly supports it!!??? (to quote your inappropriate quote -"Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing"). You see how easy it is to demonise an entire community???
If you really want to learn about Islam go to Muslims who understand their religion and ask - if I want to learn about Christianity I go to PRACTISING Christians who have some knowledge not somebody who HATES Christainity who will quote the odd verse out of context.

Also you conveniently forget to mention that these "Islamic Extremists" also kill plenty of Muslims but you still lump us all together - believe me I'm not fearing any man and I don't have to "pretend" anything. If you want to learn about Islam come with any one else who's interested and meet me in the OPEN Mosque we have here in the Docks - we got nothing to hide, come and be educated about us "horrible, monster Muslims" and lose the hatred in your heart....you never know you might find something beautiful which will bring peace and contentment to your heart.
I've now gotta make up this 1/2 hour I lost at work - so won't be answering any replys until later on probably when I'm back home.

Freedom of speech? Like they believe in that. It is do what they say or you will be executed (stoned or decapitated).

All these politicians/people who support them have almost the same ideas - do as we say, or we will threaten, bully, ridicule you.

What about the women and womens rights? No education for them , no jobs, no driving cars. Women are slaves in Muslim societies.
Passed around in a family and made to do all the work. Remember there is no such thing (in reality) as rape in muslim countries, but a woman can be stoned to death for committing adultery, (the man gets no charges brought).

Women can be imprisoned for being attacked and raped (get your head around that).

All these muslims should be deported unless they openly and actively oppose the preachers of hate. The so called "silent majority" in the vast muslim community in this country are supporting them, but pretend not to when atrocities happen. They are the ones who can stop them by standing up to the extremists, but they choose not to.

Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing?

Like this forum then?

Dont say anything, you will be labeled a nazi, troll, leader of the edl,stupid, all sorts.

They are my friends now infact I might become one and recruit the left wing lunnies on here and take over the css as a massive Mosque and preach hate

I can't believe you thinkI genuinely thought you were Tommy Robinson

I didnt you bloody muppet its called being sarcastic!

I didnt you bloody muppet its called being sarcastic!

Calm down Tommy you've got Luton town to be sorting out

Fair play Gareth your a sad one

Fair play Gareth your a sad one

That was only a joke! Come on lighten up

I've been to a mosque in Northern Cyprus and also in Istanbul and read parts of the Quran. It is undoubtedly a peaceful book whose words are twisted by the educated to influence the uneducated to do bad things. Much like the Bible and our own educated people doing the same hundreds of years past and even now in some parts.

The problem is with the Extremists who give a bad name to peace loving Muslims everywhere. Another problem is that peace loving Muslims are being encouraged to fight and defend themselves due to idiots that are on a par with the extremists they profess to hate.

That is why we will never get anywhere. Unfortunately those in the middle are being dragged in to the mess.

I will say though that we have to fight the Islamic extremists with every fibre of our being.

Hard to comment on really i mean a fundamentalist in UK has no basis of Hardship i mean watching Countdown or Wipeout every day getting angry with Bush or Blair whilst sitting in a apartment in Finsbury is not hardship.... but i do not know the mindset of some people in lets say a country like Palestine you know ,see the world through they're eyes and i might have a different view. But end of the day people are easy to brainwash i mean walk through certain areas of Cardiff and you will see hundreds of people looking like they are auditioning for Jeremy Kyle show....

Product of your environment!!!

Freedom of Speech? Ignore them? or ban them and deport them to a non-democratic country

What pisses me off are those extremists who live in our country! Especially that crazy Hook preacher Abu Hamza! What a waste of space that wanker is! Tax taxpayers funded a 1million council house for the prick! His second wife lived in another five-bedroom property for more than 15 years, bringing up the couple's eight other children of whom they will probably will become extremists!

There's loads of them around UK who hate and want to bomb and cause terror to our country and at the same time taking all the benefits from the people that really needs it! They should ALL be deported back to where they come from.. f**k the Human Rights legislation!

Abu Hamza now resides in USA, he was deported few months ago

Abu Hamza now resides in USA, he was deported few months ago

Christ, how long did that take?

You have to have freedom of speech. Like if i was to say my piece on a certain religion or take the piss then fine, Or if they want to condemn us a and our soldiers then fine. But it stops when they are actively promoting murder and mass murder that is not free speech. If they wish to go down the political road fair enough. But Islamic extremists do not do free speech, they do not do democracy either. And my view is they are pure scum.

Freedom of speech? Like they believe in that. It is do what they say or you will be executed (stoned or decapitated).

All these politicians/people who support them have almost the same ideas - do as we say, or we will threaten, bully, ridicule you.

What about the women and womens rights? No education for them , no jobs, no driving cars. Women are slaves in Muslim societies.
Passed around in a family and made to do all the work. Remember there is no such thing (in reality) as rape in muslim countries, but a woman can be stoned to death for committing adultery, (the man gets no charges brought).

Women can be imprisoned for being attacked and raped (get your head around that).

All these muslims should be deported unless they openly and actively oppose the preachers of hate. The so called "silent majority" in the vast muslim community in this country are supporting them, but pretend not to when atrocities happen. They are the ones who can stop them by standing up to the extremists, but they choose not to.

Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing?

This is the problem with theses threads - it starts of as an attack on "Islamic Extremists" then it degenerates into an attack on Muslims in general by the most ill-informed type of hate merchants (who cannot see the irony of their one-eyed stances). You are wrong on so levels here its beyond belief - if you had any idea about Muslims (and no I don't mean what you pick up off The Sun, The Star and EDL weekly or whatever it is you get your "knowledge" of Muslims from) you would know that in general the respect we have for our mothers, daughters, wives is un-rivalled. I don't recognise any of the above - in Islam the punishment for rape is DEATH for the perpertrator - women are not imprisoned for being attacked and raped in any way whatsoever in Islam, Women are educated (look at the UN stats for the Gulf countries, Jordan, Syria (beforethe civil war) etc etc where the levels of literacy are BETTER then some western countries - before you mention Afghanistan, that is a Cultural issue there NOT an Islamic one - Islam encourages education. Islam gave women rights of inheritance, education and a postion of honour 1400 years ago while parts of Western Europe still lived in caves!! Only 500 years ago Christian Western Europe held a conference to discuss if women had souls!!!
I don't deny there are examples of oppression but that is due to a number of factors - don't blame Islam for that. In the UK the last month has been all about child rape (NSPCC says in the UK that 1 in 9 -or 1 in 8 - children have been sexually abused!!!!)- do we say any Briton who doesn't openly condemn it secretly supports it!!??? (to quote your inappropriate quote -"Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing"). You see how easy it is to demonise an entire community???
If you really want to learn about Islam go to Muslims who understand their religion and ask - if I want to learn about Christianity I go to PRACTISING Christians who have some knowledge not somebody who HATES Christainity who will quote the odd verse out of context.

Also you conveniently forget to mention that these "Islamic Extremists" also kill plenty of Muslims but you still lump us all together - believe me I'm not fearing any man and I don't have to "pretend" anything. If you want to learn about Islam come with any one else who's interested and meet me in the OPEN Mosque we have here in the Docks - we got nothing to hide, come and be educated about us "horrible, monster Muslims" and lose the hatred in your heart....you never know you might find something beautiful which will bring peace and contentment to your heart.
I've now gotta make up this 1/2 hour I lost at work - so won't be answering any replys until later on probably when I'm back home.

As you brought up Afghanistan. What are the UN stats for that country?
It is muslim and it is controlled under strict Islamic laws. Whereas Jordan (as you chose to highlight) is probably the most westernised of all muslim/arabic countries. Therefore your argument that the problem in Afghanistan is cultural (and not muslim) is basically wrong, whereas your example that Jordan is a modern inclusive society because it is muslim, is also basically wrong, as it is culturally closer to the West, and therefore islamic laws play a much lesser role in society.

Freedom of speech? Like they believe in that. It is do what they say or you will be executed (stoned or decapitated).

All these politicians/people who support them have almost the same ideas - do as we say, or we will threaten, bully, ridicule you.

What about the women and womens rights? No education for them , no jobs, no driving cars. Women are slaves in Muslim societies.
Passed around in a family and made to do all the work. Remember there is no such thing (in reality) as rape in muslim countries, but a woman can be stoned to death for committing adultery, (the man gets no charges brought).

Women can be imprisoned for being attacked and raped (get your head around that).

All these muslims should be deported unless they openly and actively oppose the preachers of hate. The so called "silent majority" in the vast muslim community in this country are supporting them, but pretend not to when atrocities happen. They are the ones who can stop them by standing up to the extremists, but they choose not to.

Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing?

This is the problem with theses threads - it starts of as an attack on "Islamic Extremists" then it degenerates into an attack on Muslims in general by the most ill-informed type of hate merchants (who cannot see the irony of their one-eyed stances). You are wrong on so levels here its beyond belief - if you had any idea about Muslims (and no I don't mean what you pick up off The Sun, The Star and EDL weekly or whatever it is you get your "knowledge" of Muslims from) you would know that in general the respect we have for our mothers, daughters, wives is un-rivalled. I don't recognise any of the above - in Islam the punishment for rape is DEATH for the perpertrator - women are not imprisoned for being attacked and raped in any way whatsoever in Islam, Women are educated (look at the UN stats for the Gulf countries, Jordan, Syria (beforethe civil war) etc etc where the levels of literacy are BETTER then some western countries - before you mention Afghanistan, that is a Cultural issue there NOT an Islamic one - Islam encourages education. Islam gave women rights of inheritance, education and a postion of honour 1400 years ago while parts of Western Europe still lived in caves!! Only 500 years ago Christian Western Europe held a conference to discuss if women had souls!!!
I don't deny there are examples of oppression but that is due to a number of factors - don't blame Islam for that. In the UK the last month has been all about child rape (NSPCC says in the UK that 1 in 9 -or 1 in 8 - children have been sexually abused!!!!)- do we say any Briton who doesn't openly condemn it secretly supports it!!??? (to quote your inappropriate quote -"Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing"). You see how easy it is to demonise an entire community???
If you really want to learn about Islam go to Muslims who understand their religion and ask - if I want to learn about Christianity I go to PRACTISING Christians who have some knowledge not somebody who HATES Christainity who will quote the odd verse out of context.

Also you conveniently forget to mention that these "Islamic Extremists" also kill plenty of Muslims but you still lump us all together - believe me I'm not fearing any man and I don't have to "pretend" anything. If you want to learn about Islam come with any one else who's interested and meet me in the OPEN Mosque we have here in the Docks - we got nothing to hide, come and be educated about us "horrible, monster Muslims" and lose the hatred in your heart....you never know you might find something beautiful which will bring peace and contentment to your heart.
I've now gotta make up this 1/2 hour I lost at work - so won't be answering any replys until later on probably when I'm back home.

As you brought up Afghanistan. What are the UN stats for that country?
It is muslim and it is controlled under strict Islamic laws. Whereas Jordan (as you chose to highlight) is probably the most westernised of all muslim/arabic countries. Therefore your argument that the problem in Afghanistan is cultural (and not muslim) is basically wrong, whereas your example that Jordan is a modern inclusive society because it is muslim, is also basically wrong, as it is culturally closer to the West, and therefore islamic laws play a much lesser role in society.

You're going to ignore ALL his other points where he showed you how pretty much your entire post was ill informed bullshit are you? You got your ass handed to you on a plate, better to take it gracefully and admit it.

Freedom of speech? Like they believe in that. It is do what they say or you will be executed (stoned or decapitated).

All these politicians/people who support them have almost the same ideas - do as we say, or we will threaten, bully, ridicule you.

What about the women and womens rights? No education for them , no jobs, no driving cars. Women are slaves in Muslim societies.
Passed around in a family and made to do all the work. Remember there is no such thing (in reality) as rape in muslim countries, but a woman can be stoned to death for committing adultery, (the man gets no charges brought).

Women can be imprisoned for being attacked and raped (get your head around that).

All these muslims should be deported unless they openly and actively oppose the preachers of hate. The so called "silent majority" in the vast muslim community in this country are supporting them, but pretend not to when atrocities happen. They are the ones who can stop them by standing up to the extremists, but they choose not to.

Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing?

This is the problem with theses threads - it starts of as an attack on "Islamic Extremists" then it degenerates into an attack on Muslims in general by the most ill-informed type of hate merchants (who cannot see the irony of their one-eyed stances). You are wrong on so levels here its beyond belief - if you had any idea about Muslims (and no I don't mean what you pick up off The Sun, The Star and EDL weekly or whatever it is you get your "knowledge" of Muslims from) you would know that in general the respect we have for our mothers, daughters, wives is un-rivalled. I don't recognise any of the above - in Islam the punishment for rape is DEATH for the perpertrator - women are not imprisoned for being attacked and raped in any way whatsoever in Islam, Women are educated (look at the UN stats for the Gulf countries, Jordan, Syria (beforethe civil war) etc etc where the levels of literacy are BETTER then some western countries - before you mention Afghanistan, that is a Cultural issue there NOT an Islamic one - Islam encourages education. Islam gave women rights of inheritance, education and a postion of honour 1400 years ago while parts of Western Europe still lived in caves!! Only 500 years ago Christian Western Europe held a conference to discuss if women had souls!!!
I don't deny there are examples of oppression but that is due to a number of factors - don't blame Islam for that. In the UK the last month has been all about child rape (NSPCC says in the UK that 1 in 9 -or 1 in 8 - children have been sexually abused!!!!)- do we say any Briton who doesn't openly condemn it secretly supports it!!??? (to quote your inappropriate quote -"Isn't there a saying about evil wins when people do nothing"). You see how easy it is to demonise an entire community???
If you really want to learn about Islam go to Muslims who understand their religion and ask - if I want to learn about Christianity I go to PRACTISING Christians who have some knowledge not somebody who HATES Christainity who will quote the odd verse out of context.

Also you conveniently forget to mention that these "Islamic Extremists" also kill plenty of Muslims but you still lump us all together - believe me I'm not fearing any man and I don't have to "pretend" anything. If you want to learn about Islam come with any one else who's interested and meet me in the OPEN Mosque we have here in the Docks - we got nothing to hide, come and be educated about us "horrible, monster Muslims" and lose the hatred in your heart....you never know you might find something beautiful which will bring peace and contentment to your heart.
I've now gotta make up this 1/2 hour I lost at work - so won't be answering any replys until later on probably when I'm back home.

As you brought up Afghanistan. What are the UN stats for that country?
It is muslim and it is controlled under strict Islamic laws. Whereas Jordan (as you chose to highlight) is probably the most westernised of all muslim/arabic countries. Therefore your argument that the problem in Afghanistan is cultural (and not muslim) is basically wrong, whereas your example that Jordan is a modern inclusive society because it is muslim, is also basically wrong, as it is culturally closer to the West, and therefore islamic laws play a much lesser role in society.

You're going to ignore ALL his other points where he showed you how pretty much your entire post was ill informed bullshit are you? You got your ass handed to you on a plate, better to take it gracefully and admit it.

Really?

In Islam, the punishment for rape is death

Triffic.

Islam decrees that a woman's testimony in court, at least in financial matters, is worth half that of a man's. Under Shari'a, or Muslim law, compensation for the murder of a woman is half the going rate for men. In many Muslim countries, these directives are incorporated into contemporary law. For a woman to prove rape in Pakistan, for example, four adult males of "impeccable" character must witness the penetration, in accordance with Shari'a.


What an amazing religion - If your a man

Every religion is sexist to be fair.

Every religion is sexist to be fair.

Forget being 'fair'

Be honest..

Islam treats women like shit.

The feller who done the long post will NEVER lose an argument because he will point blank
refuse to admit that women rarely report rape in muslim countries because they are immediately
suspected of adultery/lying.. and are thrown in jail

Every religion is sexist to be fair.

Forget being 'fair'

Be honest..

Islam treats women like shit.

The feller who done the long post will NEVER lose an argument because he will point blank
refuse to admit that women rarely report rape in muslim countries because they are immediately
suspected of adultery/lying.. and are thrown in jail

Very true. Personally I think it was a good post and provides an alternative perspective, however it is equallty blinkered in terms of bias.

Anyway, every religion is sexist, racist, violent and puerile in some capacity.