Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:08 pm
Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:19 pm
snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:50 pm
Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:59 pm
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:15 am
snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:43 am
Nedd Glas wrote:snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Plenty more yet to be uncovered, I'm sure.
It amazes me when people praise her, especially working class people. In my opinion, she was the enemy within (for those who know their history, that bitch called the miners "the enemy within"). Her legacy has been long and damaging to the U.K. - in some areas, it's been worse than others.
The right wing media in the UK has always had (and still does have) a habit of trying to convince us that all of the Johnny Foreigner governments stink, but rarely look into the depths of corruption over here. They scratched the surface regarding the expenses scandal and that went away far too quickly and I'm sure there are tons of other issues yet to be uncovered.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:50 am
glas wrote:Nedd Glas wrote:snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Plenty more yet to be uncovered, I'm sure.
It amazes me when people praise her, especially working class people. In my opinion, she was the enemy within (for those who know their history, that bitch called the miners "the enemy within"). Her legacy has been long and damaging to the U.K. - in some areas, it's been worse than others.
The right wing media in the UK has always had (and still does have) a habit of trying to convince us that all of the Johnny Foreigner governments stink, but rarely look into the depths of corruption over here. They scratched the surface regarding the expenses scandal and that went away far too quickly and I'm sure there are tons of other issues yet to be uncovered.
What about the left wing media?
Covering up the kiddie fiddlers at the BBC ?
Surely now the outdated, poor funded BBC should be consigned to history. This Savile episode is just the tip of the iceberg as far as the BBC is concerned.
The Mirror and its falsified stories and pictures of Bristish soldiers "torturing" Iraqis? What punishment did the Mirror and Piers Morgan receive for that (under Blair and pension robber Browns watch)?
The politicians all have their own media outlets so no good just blaming the "right".
Trinity group (owners of the Western Mail aren't they?) are the most biased and incompetent liars of them all. They will deliberately ony publish half a story just to get their point across.
Blair and his cronies have blood on their hands (Illegal wars, poorly kitted out soldiers sent to fight in them).
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:54 am
glas wrote:Nedd Glas wrote:snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Plenty more yet to be uncovered, I'm sure.
It amazes me when people praise her, especially working class people. In my opinion, she was the enemy within (for those who know their history, that bitch called the miners "the enemy within"). Her legacy has been long and damaging to the U.K. - in some areas, it's been worse than others.
The right wing media in the UK has always had (and still does have) a habit of trying to convince us that all of the Johnny Foreigner governments stink, but rarely look into the depths of corruption over here. They scratched the surface regarding the expenses scandal and that went away far too quickly and I'm sure there are tons of other issues yet to be uncovered.
What about the left wing media?
Covering up the kiddie fiddlers at the BBC ?
Surely now the outdated, poor funded BBC should be consigned to history. This Savile episode is just the tip of the iceberg as far as the BBC is concerned.
The Mirror and its falsified stories and pictures of Bristish soldiers "torturing" Iraqis? What punishment did the Mirror and Piers Morgan receive for that (under Blair and pension robber Browns watch)?
The politicians all have their own media outlets so no good just blaming the "right".
Trinity group (owners of the Western Mail aren't they?) are the most biased and incompetent liars of them all. They will deliberately ony publish half a story just to get their point across.
Blair and his cronies have blood on their hands (Illegal wars, poorly kitted out soldiers sent to fight in them).
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:57 am
OhhhGa wrote:glas wrote:Nedd Glas wrote:snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Plenty more yet to be uncovered, I'm sure.
It amazes me when people praise her, especially working class people. In my opinion, she was the enemy within (for those who know their history, that bitch called the miners "the enemy within"). Her legacy has been long and damaging to the U.K. - in some areas, it's been worse than others.
The right wing media in the UK has always had (and still does have) a habit of trying to convince us that all of the Johnny Foreigner governments stink, but rarely look into the depths of corruption over here. They scratched the surface regarding the expenses scandal and that went away far too quickly and I'm sure there are tons of other issues yet to be uncovered.
What about the left wing media?
Covering up the kiddie fiddlers at the BBC ?
Surely now the outdated, poor funded BBC should be consigned to history. This Savile episode is just the tip of the iceberg as far as the BBC is concerned.
The Mirror and its falsified stories and pictures of Bristish soldiers "torturing" Iraqis? What punishment did the Mirror and Piers Morgan receive for that (under Blair and pension robber Browns watch)?
The politicians all have their own media outlets so no good just blaming the "right".
Trinity group (owners of the Western Mail aren't they?) are the most biased and incompetent liars of them all. They will deliberately ony publish half a story just to get their point across.
Blair and his cronies have blood on their hands (Illegal wars, poorly kitted out soldiers sent to fight in them).
Did you just claim that 'The Mirror' is a 'left-wing' paper?
Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:01 am
Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:07 am
OhhhGa wrote:The BBC, Piers Morgan, The Mirror, Blair, Gordon Brown and the Labour Party are all latent marxists apprently
Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:14 am
Nedd Glas wrote:snakeyes wrote:first hillsborough,now the miners strike in orgreave,police told to alter their log books AGAIN ALL UNDER THATCHERS WATCH![]()
Plenty more yet to be uncovered, I'm sure.
It amazes me when people praise her, especially working class people. In my opinion, she was the enemy within (for those who know their history, that bitch called the miners "the enemy within"). Her legacy has been long and damaging to the U.K. - in some areas, it's been worse than others.
The right wing media in the UK has always had (and still does have) a habit of trying to convince us that all of the Johnny Foreigner governments stink, but rarely look into the depths of corruption over here. They scratched the surface regarding the expenses scandal and that went away far too quickly and I'm sure there are tons of other issues yet to be uncovered.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:36 am
Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:40 am
Berwyn wrote:She sold anything was wasn't nailed down then her and her mates partied off the money. Now we are all paying the price. Britain doesn't own anything any more. Everything is owned by some other country.
All those that thought they were getting a few bob from gas shares etc. Where's that gone now? Taken straight back off you via higher prices. She gave a short term hit for long term pain. Now our fuel needs are at the mercey of countries like Russia.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:53 am
Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:10 pm
Berwyn wrote:She thought she was the most powerful person in the world. I think she even made refferences about how she holds the power not the Queen for instance.
Even after being pushed out she said about Saddam Hussian and how come he's still in power and I'm not. She is an evil bitch who not even the devil himself wants around. That's why she won't die!
She thought she could do anything she wanted and no one could stop her, she was far too powerful. She broke laws at will and just did what she wanted without a thought for who and what was getting hurt in the process. Like I said her mates did well from her plus the braindead idiots who thought a few gas shares were good at the time. The rest though suffered.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:50 pm
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:Berwyn wrote:She thought she was the most powerful person in the world. I think she even made refferences about how she holds the power not the Queen for instance.
Even after being pushed out she said about Saddam Hussian and how come he's still in power and I'm not. She is an evil bitch who not even the devil himself wants around. That's why she won't die!
She thought she could do anything she wanted and no one could stop her, she was far too powerful. She broke laws at will and just did what she wanted without a thought for who and what was getting hurt in the process. Like I said her mates did well from her plus the braindead idiots who thought a few gas shares were good at the time. The rest though suffered.
Nothing like a bit of balance, eh !
The country in 1978 was bust [just like in 2010!]. The labour Gov had to beg the IMF for some cash to keep paying the council workers, teachers etc. Then, when people kicked out Labour, Scargill decided he would hold the countrty to ransom. He was actuallu loathed by millions of hard-working factory & shop workings, who earned half what the miners were getting. When he failed, Thatcher got back into power on the basis of those workers whose jobs she saved. True, we lost a lot of industry afterwards, but so did practically all Western European countries.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:15 pm
Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:01 pm
JBCCFC1927 wrote:She is a lovely old woman. That's someones grandmother. How people can abuse OAP's like Thatcher is beyond me.![]()
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Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:01 pm
Berwyn wrote:A Quiet Monkfish wrote:Berwyn wrote:She thought she was the most powerful person in the world. I think she even made refferences about how she holds the power not the Queen for instance.
Even after being pushed out she said about Saddam Hussian and how come he's still in power and I'm not. She is an evil bitch who not even the devil himself wants around. That's why she won't die!
She thought she could do anything she wanted and no one could stop her, she was far too powerful. She broke laws at will and just did what she wanted without a thought for who and what was getting hurt in the process. Like I said her mates did well from her plus the braindead idiots who thought a few gas shares were good at the time. The rest though suffered.
Nothing like a bit of balance, eh !
The country in 1978 was bust [just like in 2010!]. The labour Gov had to beg the IMF for some cash to keep paying the council workers, teachers etc. Then, when people kicked out Labour, Scargill decided he would hold the countrty to ransom. He was actuallu loathed by millions of hard-working factory & shop workings, who earned half what the miners were getting. When he failed, Thatcher got back into power on the basis of those workers whose jobs she saved. True, we lost a lot of industry afterwards, but so did practically all Western European countries.
Yeah that's about it. A bit like pre-war Germany. They were having a few problems with Jewish owned businesses back then so they brought out Hitler who murdered them all. Oh and btw, how much do you think the miners were getting paid then? It wasn't that much I can tell you. Ask people like Corky what he got out of the pits.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:22 pm
JonnieBlue wrote:JBCCFC1927 wrote:She is a lovely old woman. That's someones grandmother. How people can abuse OAP's like Thatcher is beyond me.![]()
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seriously?
Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:39 pm
Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:04 pm
taffyapple wrote:THESE Anti-Labour replies just dont get it.
Its f**k all to do with Labour/Conservative. Its not a competition...
Indeed, some common sense at last
New Labour are/were arseholes. Happy now??
Exactly the same as "old labour", totally incompetant
Margaret Thatcher SHAT all over the working people of this country and it is now
PROVEN that she was using the f*cking Police like storm troopers
No Mrs T SHAT all over that c**t Scargill who more or less destroyed the mining industry in the UK. Where has it been proven that she used the police "like storm troopers"? Yes bad days but ultimately the government have to keep order within the country. Very difficult under the circumstances
She was a posh megalomaniac and i hope she suffers before dying
A grocers daughter who took on the establishment? Sexism perhaps and that was/is from both sides, Ted Heaths remarks about her were far more cutting than anything the "left" came up with
Go on, call me a leftie... I'd have Blair in the same coffin!!
Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:10 pm
Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:50 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Watch out Willy the Wankstain is about.
And really? Can you really call labour incompetent after what this shambles of a government has done to this country?
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:17 pm
Willy the Wombat wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Watch out Willy the Wankstain is about.
And really? Can you really call labour incompetent after what this shambles of a government has done to this country?
No need to be nasty BB, I have a different opinion. I grew up in Wales during the sixties/seventies, had an excellent education thanks to the teachers rather than the state, hard but fair. Worked on the A470 bypass during the miners strike so know a bit about that era, yes I've used jack hammers on limestone trying to dig out a 450 by 450mm hole 1.2m deep when its freezing cold and pissing down day after day. Do I still do that? No, I got off my f*cking arse, threw off the shackles of left wing bollox and went out into the big wide world, well, Hereford. Trained up as a Technician with Welsh Water, did an ONC part time, resigned and went to Polytechnic got myself a degree in Civil Engineering. Came back to Wales, saw f**k all had changed so moved to london in around 1986, had several jobs. I now advise governments on Infrastructure Investment throughout the former Socialist countries but have never forgotten my roots. A wankstain I may be but at least I have my own mind.
I thought we were a bit lucky tonight although I was listening to CC Player.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:42 pm
Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:25 pm
Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:32 pm
Berwyn wrote:Willy the Wombat wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Watch out Willy the Wankstain is about.
And really? Can you really call labour incompetent after what this shambles of a government has done to this country?
No need to be nasty BB, I have a different opinion. I grew up in Wales during the sixties/seventies, had an excellent education thanks to the teachers rather than the state, hard but fair. Worked on the A470 bypass during the miners strike so know a bit about that era, yes I've used jack hammers on limestone trying to dig out a 450 by 450mm hole 1.2m deep when its freezing cold and pissing down day after day. Do I still do that? No, I got off my f*cking arse, threw off the shackles of left wing bollox and went out into the big wide world, well, Hereford. Trained up as a Technician with Welsh Water, did an ONC part time, resigned and went to Polytechnic got myself a degree in Civil Engineering. Came back to Wales, saw f**k all had changed so moved to london in around 1986, had several jobs. I now advise governments on Infrastructure Investment throughout the former Socialist countries but have never forgotten my roots. A wankstain I may be but at least I have my own mind.
I thought we were a bit lucky tonight although I was listening to CC Player.
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Was that supposed to impress? Us Valley boys crack limestone with our butt cheeks. Jack hammer??? You pussy. Next you'll be bragging about smashing bubble wrap with a sledge hammer.Fcuking tory boys are all the same.
Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:36 pm