Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:05 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:18 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:37 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:42 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral
Take it your describing your posts here! Could well add bigoted, old fashioned and from what I've seen of your post your views are much closer to the Nazis than any nationalist I know. Maybe you should take your head out of where the sun doesn't shine and listen to what Leanne Wood has to say, oh and by the way she isn't 1st language Welsh speaker.
Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:44 pm
BlueGog wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral
Take it your describing your posts here! Could well add bigoted, old fashioned and from what I've seen of your post your views are much closer to the Nazis than any nationalist I know. Maybe you should take your head out of where the sun doesn't shine and listen to what Leanne Wood has to say, oh and by the way she isn't 1st language Welsh speaker.
Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:39 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:10 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:13 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:52 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:01 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:17 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:06 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:55 pm
taffyapple wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Your actually a right prick.
Sadly, your not alone.
The Dead and dying language you have no idea about is actually growing.
Its the ONLY thing that has kept Wales' identity for the last few hundred years.
You'd prefer to be called English? f*cking move there and bite on some English
cock if you can take it out of your arse for long enough
You dont like to be called Welsh?
Same again..
f*cking move.
you DO like to be called Welsh?
Then your an ignorant hypocrite who has obviously no grasp of your country's history
What a f*cking muppet
Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:59 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Your actually a right prick.
Sadly, your not alone.
The Dead and dying language you have no idea about is actually growing.
Its the ONLY thing that has kept Wales' identity for the last few hundred years.
You'd prefer to be called English? f*cking move there and bite on some English
cock if you can take it out of your arse for long enough
You dont like to be called Welsh?
Same again..
f*cking move.
you DO like to be called Welsh?
Then your an ignorant hypocrite who has obviously no grasp of your country's history
What a f*cking muppet
Excuse me for having an opinion but I believe our nations identity is the flag and the country's name. Christ it's the blue/red debate all over again.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:13 pm
taffyapple wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Your actually a right prick.
Sadly, your not alone.
The Dead and dying language you have no idea about is actually growing.
Its the ONLY thing that has kept Wales' identity for the last few hundred years.
You'd prefer to be called English? f*cking move there and bite on some English
cock if you can take it out of your arse for long enough
You dont like to be called Welsh?
Same again..
f*cking move.
you DO like to be called Welsh?
Then your an ignorant hypocrite who has obviously no grasp of your country's history
What a f*cking muppet
Excuse me for having an opinion but I believe our nations identity is the flag and the country's name. Christ it's the blue/red debate all over again.
Plaid are dickheads. No different from any other political party
Do you know what 'Wales' actually means??
Google it.
As for our flag??
Odious design expressing nothing. but spite, malice, ill-will and monstrosity.
Words (**Red Dragon takes the lead) are untrue and unduly flattering...
These were the words of one of the greatest Englishman who ever lived, Winston Churchill..
This was after Wales took y Ddraig Goch as her official flag. Nice guy huh?
The Red Dragon is part of Welsh folklore from as long ago as 600AD. Mentioned many times
in "Mabinogion'.... From a language that was being written and spoken long before English
was even a muttering from a Germanic tongue. So i wont apologise for being a bit protective
of my naked tongue. I dont think im any more Welsh than people who do or dont speak the
language. Strangely enough 1948 thinks he IS better than a Welsh speaker??? His posts are always
high-handed and look at me, yet never have any substance. Bsasically because he talks nothing
but shit. When its about MY country... I bite
You dont come across as ignorant or stupid! Yet he's got you batting for him???
** He was referring to the words that related to the flag
Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:28 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Your actually a right prick.
Sadly, your not alone.
The Dead and dying language you have no idea about is actually growing.
Its the ONLY thing that has kept Wales' identity for the last few hundred years.
You'd prefer to be called English? f*cking move there and bite on some English
cock if you can take it out of your arse for long enough
You dont like to be called Welsh?
Same again..
f*cking move.
you DO like to be called Welsh?
Then your an ignorant hypocrite who has obviously no grasp of your country's history
What a f*cking muppet
Excuse me for having an opinion but I believe our nations identity is the flag and the country's name. Christ it's the blue/red debate all over again.
Plaid are dickheads. No different from any other political party
Do you know what 'Wales' actually means??
Google it.
As for our flag??
Odious design expressing nothing. but spite, malice, ill-will and monstrosity.
Words (**Red Dragon takes the lead) are untrue and unduly flattering...
These were the words of one of the greatest Englishman who ever lived, Winston Churchill..
This was after Wales took y Ddraig Goch as her official flag. Nice guy huh?
The Red Dragon is part of Welsh folklore from as long ago as 600AD. Mentioned many times
in "Mabinogion'.... From a language that was being written and spoken long before English
was even a muttering from a Germanic tongue. So i wont apologise for being a bit protective
of my naked tongue. I dont think im any more Welsh than people who do or dont speak the
language. Strangely enough 1948 thinks he IS better than a Welsh speaker??? His posts are always
high-handed and look at me, yet never have any substance. Bsasically because he talks nothing
but shit. When its about MY country... I bite
You dont come across as ignorant or stupid! Yet he's got you batting for him???
** He was referring to the words that related to the flag
Believe me, I'm not batting for him/her/it. It's just my views on improving Wales is more economical than cultural. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with the welsh language and if people wish to speak welsh then who am I to tell people they should stop speaking it?
As I said the economy, health and education is much more important than a unofficial language.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:41 pm
taffyapple wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Dirty, arrogant, annoying, patronising, wishy washy, immoral ,nationalist and backward party. Hate the fuckers and a vote for them in my eyes is a vote AGAINST Wales. They will take us back years and years if they ever got back in. I have just seen their party political broadcast, they listed all the great things Wales have achieved in it's history from the NHS to the industrial revolution but fail to mention we achieved all this as an equal partner in the UNITED KINGDOM.
During the era of the Welsh Assembly all they have done is drag their heels on progress, pushed a dead/dying language beyond what it warrants and continually blamed the Tories and the Labour party. This is not what we want for our nation, we do not want a self pitying blame culture that is rampant in Plaid Cymru circles.
LONG LIVE THE UNION.
Your actually a right prick.
Sadly, your not alone.
The Dead and dying language you have no idea about is actually growing.
Its the ONLY thing that has kept Wales' identity for the last few hundred years.
You'd prefer to be called English? f*cking move there and bite on some English
cock if you can take it out of your arse for long enough
You dont like to be called Welsh?
Same again..
f*cking move.
you DO like to be called Welsh?
Then your an ignorant hypocrite who has obviously no grasp of your country's history
What a f*cking muppet
Excuse me for having an opinion but I believe our nations identity is the flag and the country's name. Christ it's the blue/red debate all over again.
Plaid are dickheads. No different from any other political party
Do you know what 'Wales' actually means??
Google it.
As for our flag??
Odious design expressing nothing. but spite, malice, ill-will and monstrosity.
Words (**Red Dragon takes the lead) are untrue and unduly flattering...
These were the words of one of the greatest Englishman who ever lived, Winston Churchill..
This was after Wales took y Ddraig Goch as her official flag. Nice guy huh?
The Red Dragon is part of Welsh folklore from as long ago as 600AD. Mentioned many times
in "Mabinogion'.... From a language that was being written and spoken long before English
was even a muttering from a Germanic tongue. So i wont apologise for being a bit protective
of my naked tongue. I dont think im any more Welsh than people who do or dont speak the
language. Strangely enough 1948 thinks he IS better than a Welsh speaker??? His posts are always
high-handed and look at me, yet never have any substance. Bsasically because he talks nothing
but shit. When its about MY country... I bite
You dont come across as ignorant or stupid! Yet he's got you batting for him???
** He was referring to the words that related to the flag
Believe me, I'm not batting for him/her/it. It's just my views on improving Wales is more economical than cultural. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with the welsh language and if people wish to speak welsh then who am I to tell people they should stop speaking it?
As I said the economy, health and education is much more important than a unofficial language.
I'd agree.
But the Welsh Language is an important part of our History and culture, an integral part
of our identity. Even if you dont speak it, your grandparents or their grandparents will
have done. Plaid and some of the 'taffia' are tosspots who just see themselves as the rightful
'leaders' cos they are our 'posh' people. Well f**k em.
Go for a wander round some of the shitty estates in Caernarfon or Deiniolen or Pwlhelli
or Bangor or Holyhead and you'll see real people speaking Welsh every day, as a first
language. People who aint got two pennies to rub together. Thats the Welsh speaking
Wales I know. REAL people. Not some internet persona who pretends hes 150 or whatever
the f**k.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:54 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:10 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:By f**k I regret mentioning the sacred language that is so popular we on here are debating in it... oh wait. Forget about the f*cking language for two minutes, Hitler banged on about the Economy in the early 30s and look how his reign ended. TaffyPlastic, you are not my biggest fan but no need to insult me, clearly touched a nerve. How dare you tell me to leave my country because I couldn't give a rats arse about a language I seldomly here in the streets. I am as much a Welshman as you despite you being a odious tw*t.
Speak volumes about Plaids support that the first two people to defend them are a Gog and a bloke named "Dyfan". They simply do not reach out to the normal Welsh folk or those that live in urban areas. They have the audacity to believe that anyone who speaks Welsh will vote for me. Plaid are not the Party of the Wales, they are the party AGAINST the UK and by f**k they have been nothing but a nuisance in the assembley since it's creation. They drag their heels and fight Labour at every turn just to create the notion that the Labour party are doing f**k all for are country when that is simply not the case.
Out of interest what was the last mainstream party that had National Socialism at the heart of it's manifesto? It's a truly frightening concept that one day Plaid might actually be in some form of power.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:11 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:By f**k I regret mentioning the sacred language that is so popular we on here are debating in it... oh wait. Forget about the f*cking language for two minutes, Hitler banged on about the Economy in the early 30s and look how his reign ended. TaffyPlastic, you are not my biggest fan but no need to insult me, clearly touched a nerve. How dare you tell me to leave my country because I couldn't give a rats arse about a language I seldomly here in the streets. I am as much a Welshman as you despite you being a odious tw*t.
Speak volumes about Plaids support that the first two people to defend them are a Gog and a bloke named "Dyfan". They simply do not reach out to the normal Welsh folk or those that live in urban areas. They have the audacity to believe that anyone who speaks Welsh will vote for me. Plaid are not the Party of the Wales, they are the party AGAINST the UK and by f**k they have been nothing but a nuisance in the assembley since it's creation. They drag their heels and fight Labour at every turn just to create the notion that the Labour party are doing f**k all for are country when that is simply not the case.
Out of interest what was the last mainstream party that had National Socialism at the heart of it's manifesto? It's a truly frightening concept that one day Plaid might actually be in some form of power.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:18 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:19 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:22 pm
taffyapple wrote:And it's great that they speak fluent welsh it truly is. But my views on the welsh language are that it should be kept in a museum for heritage. Again as previously stated Im not against anyone speaking it but it's just me.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:30 pm
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:31 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:taffyapple wrote:And it's great that they speak fluent welsh it truly is. But my views on the welsh language are that it should be kept in a museum for heritage. Again as previously stated Im not against anyone speaking it but it's just me.
You say your not against anyone speaking it? How magnanimous of you. The language is
a thousand years old and you say its "ok" for the hundreds of thousands of people in Wales
to carry on?
Then say it belongs in a museum.
No wonder the English defeated us. The divide and rule tactics are still prevalent today
Longshanks was a clever fucker
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:37 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:What is this? A lesson in fabrication and lies by you Mr. TaffyPlastic? I do not despise the language, I f*cking despise it being pushed on to me and used as a tool to identify someone as Welsh. You Nationalists truly have a very large, complex and strange chip on your shoulders.
My thread about immigrants was pleading to the government to stop letting more people in be it white, black or indigo in colour. Stop throwing shit in the hope that some might stick. Thank the high lord that your bigoted and backward views on Wales and it's people are in the minority. This is not about the language, this is about Plaid masquerading as the party of Wales which is a completely false and a dangerous prospect.
Stop turning this debate into cock measuring contest in regards to how Welsh you feel, are you really that insecure in your heritage that you feel you must promote it at every turn. Iv'e said it once and i'l say it again.
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LONG LIVE THE UNION.
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