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2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:37 pm

They just disbanded my old Regiment, I'm flabagasted! They are back and forth Afghan all the time!

Cameron you complete b*stard!

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:40 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/956194/reveal ... to-be-axed

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:41 pm

Gavlar wrote:They just disbanded my old Regiment, I'm flabagasted! They are back and forth Afghan all the time!

Cameron you complete b*stard!


As soon as they amalgamated the 23rd/24th/41st (RRW/RWF) it was always on the cards it would end up as one battalion. :(

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:49 pm

SBF1 wrote:
Gavlar wrote:They just disbanded my old Regiment, I'm flabagasted! They are back and forth Afghan all the time!

Cameron you complete b*stard!


As soon as they amalgamated the 23rd/24th/41st (RRW/RWF) it was always on the cards it would end up as one battalion. :(


All that history though.....

Boys don't even find out if their jobs are safe until tomorrow! Just got called back from exercise an hour ago, sky news were already outside the camp! Scale A Meeting tomorrow at 1145

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:01 pm

Gavlar wrote:
SBF1 wrote:
Gavlar wrote:They just disbanded my old Regiment, I'm flabagasted! They are back and forth Afghan all the time!

Cameron you complete b*stard!


As soon as they amalgamated the 23rd/24th/41st (RRW/RWF) it was always on the cards it would end up as one battalion. :(


All that history though.....

Boys don't even find out if their jobs are safe until tomorrow! Just got called back from exercise an hour ago, sky news were already outside the camp! Scale A Meeting tomorrow at 1145


Gutted for you mate.

Got to laugh about when history of our club is talked about on here though, it's a drop in the ocean in comparison to the Regimental one. (although I would love to stay blue etc) It's only over a colour.
Hundreds of years and many many battles where thousands of lives were given for the units. :( :oops:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:10 pm

This is what happens when you vote in an incompetent government.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:25 pm

It's an absolute disgrace. They should be making cuts in other areas, like getting rid of all the free loaders in our government, and those welsh assembly frauds and all the other shit we waste our money like giving aid to every other fucker around the world. :evil:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:27 pm

cardiff yid wrote:It's an absolute disgrace. They should be making cuts in other areas, like getting rid of all the free loaders in our government, and those welsh assembly frauds and all the other shit we waste our money like giving aid to every other fucker around the world. :evil:


And they should hit the banks very hard and all those who dodge tax.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:43 pm

cardiff yid wrote:It's an absolute disgrace. They should be making cuts in other areas, like getting rid of all the free loaders in our government, and those welsh assembly frauds and all the other shit we waste our money like giving aid to every other fucker around the world. :evil:


^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:19 pm

One of many more to come.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:42 pm

1 infantry Battalion left in Wales, :twisted: Labour started it with the amalgamation of RRW /RWF and Tories are completing the destruction of 3 hundred odd years of history & proud tradition .F**king disgraceful .

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:47 pm

Its just another cut back we can ill afford and its disgraceful.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:48 pm

I am utterly devastated by this, so much history and tradition hung out to dry, this not just ends 2R WELSH, but the memories of the South Wales boarders, "Zulu", The Welch regiment, and latter the Royal Regiment of Wales.

Ifor one had the privalige of serving with them as a proud welshman for 23 yrs, and i feel betrayed for the the current boys carrying on our proud history,,, :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :evil: :evil:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:55 pm

cardiff yid wrote:It's an absolute disgrace. They should be making cuts in other areas, like getting rid of all the free loaders in our government, and those welsh assembly frauds and all the other shit we waste our money like giving aid to every other fucker around the world. :evil:


Trying to do that too and meeting lots of opposition.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:09 pm

My old regiment also! it's f*cking outrageous! Never mind the next war Cameron and his bum bum boys will have go and fight it because there won't be an army left the way things are going!

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:12 am

The Irony of it is, you tune into any commercial radio station, Talksport for example, and all you hear is the MAJOR recruitment campaign ongoing with the TA!

They want to rely on the TA, what a joke, no disrespect to them, they have a role in any operation, but you need the majority of your rank and file to be Regs

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:03 pm

well to me its the royal regiment of wales . its whats in my head that i tell my grandchildren ,children. we will not be forgoten . but all government is allways forgoten because they dont do anything worth reapeating to your family ???tossers. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:01 pm

dad wrote:well to me its the royal regiment of wales . its whats in my head that i tell my grandchildren ,children. we will not be forgoten . but all government is allways forgoten because they dont do anything worth reapeating to your family ???tossers. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:


It's 1RRW to me too, Anti Tank Platoon 97-01

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:02 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:This is what happens when you vote in an incompetent government.



It was the previous government that caused the black hole in MOD finances. Alleged £38 mbillion was missing when the audit was done. So this government had to account for that with its current budgets.

Also we will need less of an army as this government does not go lookung for wars and countries to attack, unlike Labour.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:33 pm

glas wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:This is what happens when you vote in an incompetent government.



It was the previous government that caused the black hole in MOD finances. Alleged £38 mbillion was missing when the audit was done. So this government had to account for that with its current budgets.

Also we will need less of an army as this government does not go lookung for wars and countries to attack, unlike Labour.


We were warned in 2006 the year of the amalgamation with the RWF, THAT in 10yrs from then there would probally be only one Battalion, well its taken 6 yrs for that decision to be made, it is gut wrenching, but a clear sign of the times.

As a previous poster said about The big recruitment drive for the TA, this was always going to happen after the first cull back then, cost custing they call it, why pay 20,000 regs 365 of the year when they pay the TA as when they are needed.

The TA do a sterling job no doubt about it, their role as changed dramaticly that is why it is so clear to see why westminster are going down this road. It seems sentiment, history and tradition count for nothing, its all about the fatcats and cash. :evil: :evil:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:47 pm

supercoops wrote:As a previous poster said about The big recruitment drive for the TA, this was always going to happen after the first cull back then, cost custing they call it, why pay 20,000 regs 365 of the year when they pay the TA as when they are needed.

The TA do a sterling job no doubt about it, their role as changed dramaticly that is why it is so clear to see why westminster are going down this road. It seems sentiment, history and tradition count for nothing, its all about the fatcats and cash. :evil: :evil:

They want people to put their lives on the line but they don't want to give them what they deserve, a career and a pension. :x

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:06 pm

Occasional Violins wrote:
supercoops wrote:As a previous poster said about The big recruitment drive for the TA, this was always going to happen after the first cull back then, cost custing they call it, why pay 20,000 regs 365 of the year when they pay the TA as when they are needed.

The TA do a sterling job no doubt about it, their role as changed dramaticly that is why it is so clear to see why westminster are going down this road. It seems sentiment, history and tradition count for nothing, its all about the fatcats and cash. :evil: :evil:

They want people to put their lives on the line but they don't want to give them what they deserve, a career and a pension. :x


spot on there, because the TA will do the same job with no prospect of a pension, i had a letter 8 mths ago asking me to join the TA, i almost choked, but that would have meant another regular soldier on the dole, they are targeting EX regs to join, no need for training ect. PENNY PINCHING GITS. :evil:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:23 pm

glas wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:This is what happens when you vote in an incompetent government.



It was the previous government that caused the black hole in MOD finances. Alleged £38 mbillion was missing when the audit was done. So this government had to account for that with its current budgets.

Also we will need less of an army as this government does not go lookung for wars and countries to attack, unlike Labour.


As I said before, I would NEVER cut the MoD's budget. This government is destroying this country, cutting every sector, high un-employment. Funny thing is, it doesn't look like the economy is getting better but worse. You say we need less of an army as this government "doesn't go looking for wars" ( :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ), I promise you, if there's a chance to go for Iran they would jump it, why? Same reason for Iraq (thats your hint).

What about the Falklands? With the Argentines crying again over the Falklands, why? Cause of the recently discovered oil and I believe there's elections there soon, Falklands is a perfect chance to gain support despite the country being in the shite economic wise, their economy is in a worse state than ours.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:15 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
glas wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:This is what happens when you vote in an incompetent government.



It was the previous government that caused the black hole in MOD finances. Alleged £38 mbillion was missing when the audit was done. So this government had to account for that with its current budgets.

Also we will need less of an army as this government does not go lookung for wars and countries to attack, unlike Labour.


As I said before, I would NEVER cut the MoD's budget. This government is destroying this country, cutting every sector, high un-employment. Funny thing is, it doesn't look like the economy is getting better but worse. You say we need less of an army as this government "doesn't go looking for wars" ( :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ), I promise you, if there's a chance to go for Iran they would jump it, why? Same reason for Iraq (thats your hint).

What about the Falklands? With the Argentines crying again over the Falklands, why? Cause of the recently discovered oil and I believe there's elections there soon, Falklands is a perfect chance to gain support despite the country being in the shite economic wise, their economy is in a worse state than ours.



Falklands - don't need the army. One submarine will do the job. It's all posturing from the Argies. Their army etc is shit, has not improved/upgraded since the Falklands in '82.

No way this goverment would go to war in Iran, unless NATO etc all go. Remember it was B Liar who was desperate for the Iraq (second war). Also Afghanistan was another of his choices..
Agree the MOD budget should not be cut. What is the point of good services when you cannot defend yourselves.
My problem with it is too many pen pushers in Whitehall who should go first. But how many regiments are full (numbers wise)?
Probably very few. Kids today are too lazy, and the standard of fitness in general is appalling, as is the education standards to use the high tech equipment. So they only use of a lot of these youngsters is as cannon fodder.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:19 pm

glas wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
glas wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:This is what happens when you vote in an incompetent government.



It was the previous government that caused the black hole in MOD finances. Alleged £38 mbillion was missing when the audit was done. So this government had to account for that with its current budgets.

Also we will need less of an army as this government does not go lookung for wars and countries to attack, unlike Labour.


As I said before, I would NEVER cut the MoD's budget. This government is destroying this country, cutting every sector, high un-employment. Funny thing is, it doesn't look like the economy is getting better but worse. You say we need less of an army as this government "doesn't go looking for wars" ( :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ), I promise you, if there's a chance to go for Iran they would jump it, why? Same reason for Iraq (thats your hint).

What about the Falklands? With the Argentines crying again over the Falklands, why? Cause of the recently discovered oil and I believe there's elections there soon, Falklands is a perfect chance to gain support despite the country being in the shite economic wise, their economy is in a worse state than ours.



Falklands - don't need the army. One submarine will do the job. It's all posturing from the Argies. Their army etc is shit, has not improved/upgraded since the Falklands in '82.

No way this goverment would go to war in Iran, unless NATO etc all go. Remember it was B Liar who was desperate for the Iraq (second war). Also Afghanistan was another of his choices..
Agree the MOD budget should not be cut. What is the point of good services when you cannot defend yourselves.
My problem with it is too many pen pushers in Whitehall who should go first. But how many regiments are full (numbers wise)?
Probably very few. Kids today are too lazy, and the standard of fitness in general is appalling, as is the education standards to use the high tech equipment. So they only use of a lot of these youngsters is as cannon fodder.


Very true, especially about Blair. As you may tell, I prefer Labour (even though they're shite) over the fuckwards, but Bush and Blair were scary, I genuinely thought a World War would kick off. Christ could imagine if they were still in power? Guaranteed Tehran would've been nuked by now, a new Cold War with the Chinese, good grief. :lol:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:03 pm

Yet again the military get shafted, particulary the army.

My old regiment the RWF were amalgated in the previous reforms and are now 1st Royal Welsh.

The politicians expect our soldiers to fight THEIR wars without the necessary support or equipment..........then when they come home in a box they sit in parliament going "here here" in a false show of caring.

More to the point why cut a battalion that is well manned, certain regiments will remain who cannot get their full compliment of soldiers, particularly in scotland - political reasons there methinks!!! :o :o

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :old:

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:50 pm

I suspect that the 1st will actually go.

They are in Afghan now - so politically insensitive to bin them.

The 2nd are mech infantry which Whitehall will want to keep.

I fancy the 1st will go, ant the 2nd will become the first. Hence the technically correct announcement today that the 2nd are going......

Sad day.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:52 pm

Sad symptom of a global financal crisis, and who is to blame? Bankers and 'New' Labour.

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:03 pm

richards13 wrote:I suspect that the 1st will actually go.

They are in Afghan now - so politically insensitive to bin them.

The 2nd are mech infantry which Whitehall will want to keep.

I fancy the 1st will go, ant the 2nd will become the first. Hence the technically correct announcement today that the 2nd are going......

Sad day.


The reason that RRW 24th Foot became 2nd Royal Welsh was because RWF was 23rd Foot therefore they were the senior Regiment ,although with this lot in government what does that matter

Re: 2nd Battalion The Royal Welsh disbanded!!

Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:03 pm

richards13 wrote:I suspect that the 1st will actually go.

They are in Afghan now - so politically insensitive to bin them.

The 2nd are mech infantry which Whitehall will want to keep.

I fancy the 1st will go, ant the 2nd will become the first. Hence the technically correct announcement today that the 2nd are going......

Sad day.


The reason that RRW 24th Foot became 2nd Royal Welsh was because RWF was 23rd Foot therefore they were the senior Regiment ,although with this lot in government what does that matter