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Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:34 pm

To me the best striker of his type we have had for an awful long time, pity the England situation turned his head and was crap after that, but was he lazier than Nathan Blake probably the laziest player I have ever seen and yet is described as a legend by many

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:53 pm

I would love him to come back..

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:54 pm

Taffs Well Blue wrote:To me the best striker of his type we have had for an awful long time, pity the England situation turned his head and was crap after that, but was he lazier than Nathan Blake probably the laziest player I have ever seen and yet is described as a legend by many


He was a very capable player. But his attitude meant he never ever fulfilled his promise.
f**k knows why anyone would want him back here? his last six months he was f*cking
shite and a passenger

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:17 pm

the last six months yeah he was a nob but there was still a few momnets of pure class QPR home ..Jay is class act lazy yeah but MM would get the best out of him..

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:23 pm

Blake spent most games with his hands on his hips,remembered for his goal against Man City, hasselbaink scored a similar goal in the cup but won't go down as a legend because of it. It's a pity Bothroyds last couple of months spoilt his reputation

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:25 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Taffs Well Blue wrote:To me the best striker of his type we have had for an awful long time, pity the England situation turned his head and was crap after that, but was he lazier than Nathan Blake probably the laziest player I have ever seen and yet is described as a legend by many


He was a very capable player. But his attitude meant he never ever fulfilled his promise.
f**k knows why anyone would want him back here? his last six months he was f*cking
shite and a passenger


Wouldn't want him back we need better now

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:26 pm

scooby1973 wrote:the last six months yeah he was a nob but there was still a few momnets of pure class QPR home ..Jay is class act lazy yeah but MM would get the best out of him..


No chance.

He's played premiership now.

He'd see himself a cut above us all now, just like he did after England picked him

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:41 pm

Best player ive seen in over 20 years following City.

This he didnt try last 6 months myth is a load of bollocks.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:52 pm

He was poor after his England cap but DJ never subbed him off.Malky would put a rocket up his a**e and sort his head out!!

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:54 pm

CP76 wrote:Best player ive seen in over 20 years following City.

This he didnt try last 6 months myth is a load of bollocks.


Can't say that I've agreed with a lot of your posts, but this one is spot on IMO! :)

Bothroyd got injured after his England cap and was out for a couple of months!

It took him a few weeks to get back to full match fitness and Most people seem to forget his performance and goal against QPR and his performance, including his link up play with Ramsey and Bellamy, which led to Bellamy's winning goal! :

These performances came towards the end of the season, when some people say he wasn't trying! :o ayatollah:

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:59 pm

From recollection sure he scored on his return from injury in a home win over Norwich.

We missed him more than any other player when he was out. More so than CB39.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:08 pm

CP76 wrote:From recollection sure he scored on his return from injury in a home win over Norwich.

We missed him more than any other player when he was out. More so than CB39.


I agree and although we missed Bellamy at home against Reading, we pissed all over them for 30 minutes, should have been at least a couple of goals up, when Keinan had 2 moments of madness, which subsequently cost us a place at Wembley!

Bearing in mind we'd already beaten the Jacks at their supposed fortress a few weeks earlier and Bellamy may well have been fit for the final, we could easily have had the place that they currently enjoy in the EPL!

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:23 pm

CP76 wrote:From recollection sure he scored on his return from injury in a home win over Norwich.

We missed him more than any other player when he was out. More so than CB39.


That was before he got picked for England.

The game after his debut for England he got injured, it was against Preston at home.

A lot of people say when he was out we went on a bad run. Well thats not quite true as we were well into our bad run before his injury. Damn awful time that run was. Really should have got rid of Jones then.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:39 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CP76 wrote:From recollection sure he scored on his return from injury in a home win over Norwich.

We missed him more than any other player when he was out. More so than CB39.


That was before he got picked for England.

The game after his debut for England he got injured, it was against Preston at home.

A lot of people say when he was out we went on a bad run. Well thats not quite true as we were well into our bad run before his injury. Damn awful time that run was. Really should have got rid of Jones then.

I stand cirrected the Watford home game I am talking about when he returned from injury and scored, and then in the next game against Reading so cuts through the "couldnt be bothered after the England call up" myth for me.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:54 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
CP76 wrote:Best player ive seen in over 20 years following City.

This he didnt try last 6 months myth is a load of bollocks.


Can't say that I've agreed with a lot of your posts, but this one is spot on IMO! :)

Bothroyd got injured after his England cap and was out for a couple of months!

It took him a few weeks to get back to full match fitness and Most people seem to forget his performance and goal against QPR and his performance, including his link up play with Ramsey and Bellamy, which led to Bellamy's winning goal! :

These performances came towards the end of the season, when some people say he wasn't trying! :o ayatollah:


I can't agree more... :ayatollah:

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:23 pm

Cant believe people wanted him to go.
I seen plenty of fans abuse of Twitter and begging him to come back.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:56 pm

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:05 pm

You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:07 pm

DWQPR wrote:You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.


We'll take him on loan paying £13k a week.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:15 pm

DWQPR wrote:You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.


Surely Jones did? And I believe Malky could. By far the best striker we have had since ive been watching

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:19 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
DWQPR wrote:You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.


Surely Jones did? And I believe Malky could. By far the best striker we have had since ive been watching


I think Jones is one of the best at dealing with problem players. He gives them the freedom to play how they want to play and I think that that's what gets the best out of players like Bothroyd.


I don't think Malky would get anywhere near as much out of him.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:21 pm

Aramore wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
DWQPR wrote:You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.


Surely Jones did? And I believe Malky could. By far the best striker we have had since ive been watching


I think Jones is one of the best at dealing with problem players. He gives them the freedom to play how they want to play and I think that that's what gets the best out of players like Bothroyd.


I don't think Malky would get anywhere near as much out of him.


The only problem with that is that they relapse into their old ways of being overconifident ala bothroyd. And with Malky it is hard to tell he has never put himself in that position with us

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:22 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Aramore wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
DWQPR wrote:You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.


Surely Jones did? And I believe Malky could. By far the best striker we have had since ive been watching


I think Jones is one of the best at dealing with problem players. He gives them the freedom to play how they want to play and I think that that's what gets the best out of players like Bothroyd.


I don't think Malky would get anywhere near as much out of him.


The only problem with that is that they relapse into their old ways of being overconifident ala bothroyd. And with Malky it is hard to tell he has never put himself in that position with us


I think Jay would go backwards under a strict manager like Malky. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think he'd react well too strong discipline.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:25 pm

Aramore wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Aramore wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
DWQPR wrote:You want him back? Take him, pure Championship player at best, lazy to say the least and more concerned about not getting himself hurt. And don't think that Malky can stick a rocket up his arse to gt him going. If Hughes couldn't achieve that then I am ure that Mackay wouldn't be able to either. Come to think of it, no manager has managed to do so. Has the talent but not the commitment. Oh, and you'll have to stump up £25k a week for him, plus add ons.


Surely Jones did? And I believe Malky could. By far the best striker we have had since ive been watching


I think Jones is one of the best at dealing with problem players. He gives them the freedom to play how they want to play and I think that that's what gets the best out of players like Bothroyd.


I don't think Malky would get anywhere near as much out of him.


The only problem with that is that they relapse into their old ways of being overconifident ala bothroyd. And with Malky it is hard to tell he has never put himself in that position with us


He acts like a spoilt child someone needs to get down to the barebones and discuss with him the proper way to conduct himself and to say to him you are good enough but you need to work for it. Ballotelli who is 100 times worse than jay has shown he can work for it in the euros

I think Jay would go backwards under a strict manager like Malky. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think he'd react well too strong discipline.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:25 pm

Lazy maybe but like Blake could conjour up a bit of magic just when it was needed

In 37 years of watching the club he has to be one of the most furiating players I have ever seen but on the flip side one of the most talented......I'd have him back tomorrow

He'd be the perfect foil for Miller/Mayson or Earnie

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:31 pm

Everything we missed last season.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:00 pm

if he does sod all for 89 mins then does one thing and scores a beauty to win the game... who cares..

goals win games not headless chickens running around flat out fo 90mins... having that right balance is key...


1 lazy b*stard is ok if the others are working and he puts it in the net...


scored more goals and assists doing feck all than miller did playing almost every game running here there and every where..


sorry,

but we would be daft if we said we didnt need him....

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:06 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:scored more goals and assists doing feck all than miller did playing almost every game running here there and every where..



Good point. Far superior to Miller in every way and dont get me started on Rudy.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:18 pm

I'm in the car now.

I'll happily drive him from London to Cardiff for free. I'll stop off and pack his bag for him, feed him & wait outside his hotel until the deal is done.

Tried backing the fella but he has as much motivation as my 86 year old nan. ...... She's been dead for 8 months.

Re: Lazy Bothroyd

Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:12 pm

Stan-QPR wrote:I'm in the car now.

I'll happily drive him from London to Cardiff for free. I'll stop off and pack his bag for him, feed him & wait outside his hotel until the deal is done.

Tried backing the fella but he has as much motivation as my 86 year old nan. ...... She's been dead for 8 months.


Bothroyd is a championship player, we all said that before you took him on.
He wasn't getting regular games at your gaf, so you were never gonna see what he could produce on regular basis....

He has been by far the best striker down our place for years, Very quick for a tall lad, technically apt, good football head on him, yes he has his spells of lazyness and whinging, what players don't, but what do you expect from a striker? some one defending, midfielding running his arse off like a headless chicken for lost causes? Well we have one of those called Kenny Miller, and all people remember about him is his BIG miss that could have won us the cup v Liverpool, and his work rate and effort!

I know what I prefer and thats a 20+ goal a season striker, which is exactly what Bothroyd was.

Yes us city fans like a player who works his tits off, but we have 8 or 9 of them already in our team.... We were way to defensive based last season as the billions of draws will tell you! We need a balanced and varied team and Bothroyd describes everything we missed last season.

I rekon if we brought him in in January on loan it would have made hell of a difference.

I'm also not saying we should go all out to try and bring him back either - But what Bothroyd brings to the table is a striker that Malky should be searching for.....