Poll on tax payer funded children per household.

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

Christ you get more left wing by the day, you'll have folk queuing up for breeding licenses next. 2 and 6 to chop yer balls off sir?

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

Christ you get more left wing by the day, you'll have folk queuing up for breeding licenses next. 2 and 6 to chop yer balls off sir?

left wing..?

I'll forget your left wing socialist shit as you are slowly seeking the path.

The glorious mother or father land chips in for two kids and there endeth state support. If thy goat or sheep be ill CCMB will support them not financially but in a semi moral sort of way. We all live happily ever after or so the story goes.

Can we please keep this a CCFC(ish) at least site?

Is there not a political site to go to? FFS!!

I'll forget your left wing socialist shit as you are slowly seeking the path.

The glorious mother or father land chips in for two kids and there endeth state support. If thy goat or sheep be ill CCMB will support them not financially but in a semi moral sort of way. We all live happily ever after or so the story goes.

how on earth is supporting a cap classed as left wing..?

Most people who can't afford any more kids they don't have them. On welfare it should be two maximum. Have any more and the state does not pay. I am fed up paying for more and more kids so they can have a bigger Fooking house.
Scroungers the bloody lot of em. The welfare is for people who can't genuinely work through illness and for those laid off and are actively looking for work.( There but the grace of god,) but those that choose not to work EVER!! And then have kids to get a decent house.......Scum.

Most people who can't afford any more kids they don't have them. On welfare it should be two maximum. Have any more and the state does not pay. I am fed up paying for more and more kids so they can have a bigger Fooking house.
Scroungers the bloody lot of em. The welfare is for people who can't genuinely work through illness and for those laid off and are actively looking for work.( There but the grace of god,) but those that choose not to work EVER!! And then have kids to get a decent house.......Scum.

hear, hear!!!

Can we please keep this a CCFC(ish) at least site?

Is there not a political site to go to? FFS!!

if you dont want to read....dont open topic.....

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.

If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

Why 3, what?! I personally think if you want kids you pay for them ALL yourself and stop relying on the tax payer to fund them for you.

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

Yes I agree. We should save as much money as we can by cutting benefits that go to children in the UK.

We need as much money as we can get to send to countries like India and Pakistan so they can continue funding their own space and nuclear weapon programs.

And lets not forget the £5.8 Million per year our MP's need for their house of commons bar bill. I mean how could they possibly do their jobs without free booze! We should cut kids benefits further so that they can have even more free booze!

Sterilise the workshy i say

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

I was undecided whether half the stick you get on this forum was deserved or not and this post and poll has made my mind up.

The complete lack of thought in this post is staggering although from what I have read about you on this forum not surprising.

You are a complete tool and deserve all the abuse you get

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

I was undecided whether half the stick you get on this forum was deserved or not and this post and poll has made my mind up.

The complete lack of thought in this post is staggering although from what I have read about you on this forum not surprising.

You are a complete tool and deserve all the abuse you get

So working people should pay for workshy families who just pop out kids like there's no tomorrow..? I'm with CP76 and they should be sterilised. It also seems to me that the vast majority who's taken part in this poll agree with the 'possible' new laws which are coming in.

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Here we go the liberial is off. Its simple life choice to make, can you afford to have kids before you want them..? (a) yes or (b) no.

I think its about time we the taxpayer stopped funding the production line of children which go on in 'some' bedrooms

I was undecided whether half the stick you get on this forum was deserved or not and this post and poll has made my mind up.

The complete lack of thought in this post is staggering although from what I have read about you on this forum not surprising.

You are a complete tool and deserve all the abuse you get

So working people should pay for workshy families who just pop out kids like there's no tomorrow..? I'm with CP76 and they should be sterilised. It also seems to me that the vast majority who's taken part in this poll agree with the 'possible' new laws which are coming in.

Sterilisation? You are undoubtedly a right-wing crack-pot.

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Of course I thought of that so tell me then how many families in the UK have more than 3 children is you think its so important for the countries population.

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Here we go the liberial is off. Its simple life choice to make, can you afford to have kids before you want them..? (a) yes or (b) no.

so because im liberal i must be wrong
so you would restrict children to the wealthy then, take away the working classes rights to have children good luck with that.
i dont suppose you will answer my points because i doubt you understand them but just in case ill point them out again

so you get what you want child benefit is eliminated and restricts the right to give birth to the rich only,
where is our working population going to come from?
how do you plan to prevent our population from ageing?
how do you plan on replacing our working population after restricting it? immigration? oh no thats right you dont like that either. So come on then what are your answers to the real situation?

Would you condone state sterilisation of the unemployed? Or those with 3+ children?

Would you condone state sterilisation of the unemployed? Or those with 3+ children?

People can have as many children as they want as long as they are prepared to pay for them.

I would support sterilisation at birth and with the option of reversing the sterilisation when people are old enough to take personal responsibility of their children and much of that revolves around the financial aspect of having children.

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Here we go the liberial is off. Its simple life choice to make, can you afford to have kids before you want them..? (a) yes or (b) no.

so because im liberal i must be wrong
so you would restrict children to the wealthy then, take away the working classes rights to have children good luck with that.
i dont suppose you will answer my points because i doubt you understand them but just in case ill point them out again

so you get what you want child benefit is eliminated and restricts the right to give birth to the rich only,
where is our working population going to come from?
how do you plan to prevent our population from ageing?
how do you plan on replacing our working population after restricting it? immigration? oh no thats right you dont like that either. So come on then what are your answers to the real situation?

Its the namby pamby liberials supporting the weak human rights law have made this country the way it is today!!!

Would you condone state sterilisation of the unemployed? Or those with 3+ children?

People can have as many children as they want as long as they are prepared to pay for them.

I would support sterilisation at birth and with the option of reversing the sterilisation when people are old enough to take personal responsibility of their children and much of that revolves around the financial aspect of having children.

So do you feel that no assistance should be provided through welfare and benefits to families?

Sterilisation at birth? Ha! That is ridiculously totalitarian. What right does a government have to do such a thing without consent? Who would be sterilised at birth then? Everyone? Just the working-classes? Please elaborate.

Did I read somewhere that you tried to get voted in for your local something-or-other recently ?

Was this part of the policy you wanted people to vote for you ?

You are saying people should be Means tested before they are allowed a child ?

What is someone ain't got a job today and he is sterilsed but gets one tomorrow , can he claim compo ?

The two child rule maybe ? Hmmmm , give me a gun now and I'll take out a few royals

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Of course I thought of that so tell me then how many families in the UK have more than 3 children is you think its so important for the countries population.

do people not have the right to choose how many children they want?
yes i agree that some sort of responsibility should be instilled to have children responsibly but restricting childbirth didnt work in China and i dont think it will work here.
why should children be disadvantaged because they are the 4th 5th or 6th child?
what are your options if you find yourself pregnant knowing the government will not offer any assistance?
ive heard baby boxes are making a big comeback in europe surely this will bring more economic strain on the government than the current system already does.
get people into work dont punish family life

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Here we go the liberial is off. Its simple life choice to make, can you afford to have kids before you want them..? (a) yes or (b) no.

so because im liberal i must be wrong
so you would restrict children to the wealthy then, take away the working classes rights to have children good luck with that.
i dont suppose you will answer my points because i doubt you understand them but just in case ill point them out again

so you get what you want child benefit is eliminated and restricts the right to give birth to the rich only,
where is our working population going to come from?
how do you plan to prevent our population from ageing?
how do you plan on replacing our working population after restricting it? immigration? oh no thats right you dont like that either. So come on then what are your answers to the real situation?

Its the namby pamby liberials supporting the weak human rights law have made this country the way it is today!!!

weak human rights laws?
i forget how idiotic you people are, your human rights are the reason why your free to spout all this shit without being punished and you will be the first to have your mouths sewn shut when you win your campaign to eliminate human rights.

So lets put up a scenario here.

A man has 4 children a good job with a salary that allows him to support his family.

Suddenly due to circumstances beyond his control he is made redundant and forced onto benefits whilst looking for another job.

In a situation like this which child goes without food / clothes?

Your whole point is completely ludicrous sterilization of benefit claimants and a limit to the number of children no wonder you can't get elected you are a crackpot

I've got 3 kids, Im pretty much classed as a stay at home dad, I work every Tuesday fitting as many of the blinds I sold on the previous weekends. Luckily I can keep my earnings to a bear minimum and still claim the £660 tax credits each month plus child benefit.
If I worked full time it would cost £38 per day for our youngest for a child kinder until next year when they could start school.
I started working at 17 and it's only now in the past 12months I've decided to do things this way.

I'm sorry but that comment is why people are pissed off with it all. Surely it was your decision to have 3 children then you should bloody pay for them!!! Why should I pay for your life decisions..? Keeping your earnings to a bear minimum so that you can get a further £660 plus child benefit!!!

well im sure he does but based on £38 a day for child care working 5 days a week every month would cost around £800 and thats for 1 child times that by one two or three, thats a lot of money. If you have your way your restricting who can have kids to the rich, which will gradually age our population and limit our working population with a similar problem to what China has right now. Tax credits and child benefit is more of an investment by the government because the better job the child gets the more the government will take in tax and makes its money back and more.
i dont think you can punish people for having children and we need to keep the population circle rotating (but you wouldnt have thought of that)
the bigger question would be is why is this country willing to give more benefits money to people than what they could ever earn, its a sweet deal.
id be more inclined to fight for liveable wages rather than attacking child benefit.

Of course I thought of that so tell me then how many families in the UK have more than 3 children is you think its so important for the countries population.

do people not have the right to choose how many children they want?
yes i agree that some sort of responsibility should be instilled to have children responsibly but restricting childbirth didnt work in China and i dont think it will work here.
why should children be disadvantaged because they are the 4th 5th or 6th child?
what are your options if you find yourself pregnant knowing the government will not offer any assistance?
ive heard baby boxes are making a big comeback in europe surely this will bring more economic strain on the government than the current system already does.
get people into work dont punish family life

These people don't want to work and that is the problem. As Ive said previously as long as people can afford the children they can have as many as they want!!!! The member above clearly stated that it was cheaper for him not to go to work and thats clearly wrong!!! Personally I'm sick of people complaining about the lack of money when they clearly can't or won't even do a simple financial expenditure form about their personal income.

Personally I've never wanted to go back into the recruitment industry but I have because I've had no other choice. Many people may think that I'm talking out of my backside most if not all of the time on here but believe me when I say this. The work is out there just the mentality isn't!!! The amount of people who have REFUSED work during this last week has easily gone into its hundreds!!! and 'if' the government run a scheme for employers to dob in the workshy and they get rewarded for their actions then I would be lapping it up in the sun right now. ITS THAT BAD!!!!

In many people cases bills need to be paid and the workers out would do anything just as long as the bills are covered. Yet people who have no mortgage because they are given their homes by the council, no council tax to pay as well work who has benefit after benefit and are quite happy to watch Jeremy Kyle every single day and live off OUR taxes just stick their two fingers up to us all!!!! Are enviroments like that good to bring up kids..? I don't think so.