Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:45 pm
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:46 pm
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:48 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:50 pm
brickyblue wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Enjoy watching your brand new club mate
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:51 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:51 pm
brickyblue wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Enjoy watching your brand new club mate
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:52 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote:brickyblue wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Enjoy watching your brand new club mate
I'll be watching Cardiff City and it's the very same club……….enjoy your saturday afternoon shopping with the Mrs.
We are still the BLOOOOOOOOOBIRDS!!
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:54 pm
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:56 pm
brickyblue wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Enjoy watching your brand new club mate
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:57 pm
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:57 pm
Blazing Saddles wrote::ayatollah: fair enough
my choice is Cardiff City football club storming the championship next season or my Mrs saying 'does my bum look big in this?'
Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:59 pm
harold pinta wrote:brickyblue wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Enjoy watching your brand new club mate
Cardiff City Football Club will be the same in every way next season as it was last season, same stadium, manager, coaches, players (along with some better ones), fans, stewards, etc just a different colour home kit.
I know it's a big deal, I'm not happy about the situation, but walking away from the club is not going to help. We will be here long after the current owners and directors have gone.
It's the fans that make the club.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:02 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Yes you can look forward to the deep sense of achievement and glowing feeling you get when Berjaya Group win the Premiership.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:04 pm
harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Yes you can look forward to the deep sense of achievement and glowing feeling you get when Berjaya Group win the Premiership.
Did the Abramovich group win the champions league? Did Sheikh Mansour win the premier league? Did the Estate of Markus Leibherr win the Championship?
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:05 pm
ccfc1981 wrote:i agree with you brickyblue , i just cant get my head around it , makes me feel sick how they have just decided to do this change without asking the fans. so many people are for the change i just dont get it.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:09 pm
brickyblue wrote:harold pinta wrote:brickyblue wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Enjoy watching your brand new club mate
Cardiff City Football Club will be the same in every way next season as it was last season, same stadium, manager, coaches, players (along with some better ones), fans, stewards, etc just a different colour home kit.
I know it's a big deal, I'm not happy about the situation, but walking away from the club is not going to help. We will be here long after the current owners and directors have gone.
It's the fans that make the club.
Its just a different colour and badge you say .You just dont get it do you mate.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:10 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Yes you can look forward to the deep sense of achievement and glowing feeling you get when Berjaya Group win the Premiership.
Did the Abramovich group win the champions league? Did Sheikh Mansour win the premier league? Did the Estate of Markus Leibherr win the Championship?
No because their owners were not as dictatorial as ours.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:12 pm
harold pinta wrote:ccfc1981 wrote:i agree with you brickyblue , i just cant get my head around it , makes me feel sick how they have just decided to do this change without asking the fans. so many people are for the change i just dont get it.
I think you'll find your making the mistake of assuming that many fans are "for the change". I reckon I speak for most who don't want it any more than you do, they are just willing to accept it.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:19 pm
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:20 pm
harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Yes you can look forward to the deep sense of achievement and glowing feeling you get when Berjaya Group win the Premiership.
Did the Abramovich group win the champions league? Did Sheikh Mansour win the premier league? Did the Estate of Markus Leibherr win the Championship?
No because their owners were not as dictatorial as ours.
Are you sure about that
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:22 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Yes you can look forward to the deep sense of achievement and glowing feeling you get when Berjaya Group win the Premiership.
Did the Abramovich group win the champions league? Did Sheikh Mansour win the premier league? Did the Estate of Markus Leibherr win the Championship?
No because their owners were not as dictatorial as ours.
Are you sure about that
Yes I am sure but I suppose you want proof so here it goes. When the Abramovich group invested in Chelsea did he change the colour to red because he could market them in Russia- no. Did he chgange the Chelsea crest to one of a bear to make his team more marketable in Russia- no. Did he change the colour of the Chelsea kit from blue to red- no. Did he remove all the blue seats from Stamford Bridge and replace them with red ones - no.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:26 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:harold pinta wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Disagree…..looking forward to the new season
Yes you can look forward to the deep sense of achievement and glowing feeling you get when Berjaya Group win the Premiership.
Did the Abramovich group win the champions league? Did Sheikh Mansour win the premier league? Did the Estate of Markus Leibherr win the Championship?
No because their owners were not as dictatorial as ours.
Are you sure about that
Yes I am sure but I suppose you want proof so here it goes. When the Abramovich group invested in Chelsea did he change the colour to red because he could market them in Russia- no. Did he change the Chelsea crest to one of a bear to make his team more marketable in Russia- no. Did he change the colour of the Chelsea kit from blue to red- no. Did he remove all the blue seats from Stamford Bridge and replace them with red ones - no.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:10 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:We are still Cardiff City.
How many Leeds fans give a f**k about playing in White? There club colours were blue and yellow until the 70s.
WE ARE CARDIFF ONE AND ALL. WHETHER RED OR BLUE WE ARE ALWAYS CARDIFF. THE CLUB I LOVE IS BEING TORN APART NOT BY TAN BUT BY PETTY FACTIONSISTS. IT HAD HAPPENED. IT HURTS. IT HURTS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
BUT PLEASE WE ARE CARDIFF AND NOW MORE THAN EVER WE MUST STAY UNITED.
FORGET COLOUR. SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY. SUPPORT MALKY AND THE BOYS.
WE SHOULD NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER.
WE ARE CARDIFF AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF.
I appreciate your optimism I can sense your passion mate but nar sorry I dont and cant see it as you do.
DOES ANYTHING ELSE REALLY, TRULY MATTER?
Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:44 pm
brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:We are still Cardiff City.
How many Leeds fans give a f**k about playing in White? There club colours were blue and yellow until the 70s.
WE ARE CARDIFF ONE AND ALL. WHETHER RED OR BLUE WE ARE ALWAYS CARDIFF. THE CLUB I LOVE IS BEING TORN APART NOT BY TAN BUT BY PETTY FACTIONSISTS. IT HAD HAPPENED. IT HURTS. IT HURTS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
BUT PLEASE WE ARE CARDIFF AND NOW MORE THAN EVER WE MUST STAY UNITED.
FORGET COLOUR. SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY. SUPPORT MALKY AND THE BOYS.
WE SHOULD NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER.
WE ARE CARDIFF AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF.
I appreciate your optimism I can sense your passion mate but nar sorry I dont and cant see it as you do.
DOES ANYTHING ELSE REALLY, TRULY MATTER?
Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:50 pm
Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:57 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:We are still Cardiff City.
How many Leeds fans give a f**k about playing in White? There club colours were blue and yellow until the 70s.
WE ARE CARDIFF ONE AND ALL. WHETHER RED OR BLUE WE ARE ALWAYS CARDIFF. THE CLUB I LOVE IS BEING TORN APART NOT BY TAN BUT BY PETTY FACTIONSISTS. IT HAD HAPPENED. IT HURTS. IT HURTS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
BUT PLEASE WE ARE CARDIFF AND NOW MORE THAN EVER WE MUST STAY UNITED.
FORGET COLOUR. SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY. SUPPORT MALKY AND THE BOYS.
WE SHOULD NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER.
WE ARE CARDIFF AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF.
I appreciate your optimism I can sense your passion mate but nar sorry I dont and cant see it as you do.
DOES ANYTHING ELSE REALLY, TRULY MATTER?
answer to the above is yes it matters[/quote
The colour of a shirt is more important than the friendship of the men you'be stood shoulder to shoulder with for years?
So important you'd sacrifice the very existence of our club?
I honestly respect your view but cannot reject the future financial security of the club on sentimentality.
If me, you or any other cardiff fan could secure our future and keep us in blue then it would be an ideal scenario.
Sadly no one cardiff fan has the means to do so. Therefore I'll take a future in red rather than a short future in blue.
It is the lesser of two evils IMHO.
BUT WE ARE STILL CARDIFF CITY.
FIGHTING EACH OTHER WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER.
WHAT IS DONE IS DONE.
LET'S STOP THE CIVIL WAR AND GET BACK TO SUPPORTING MALKY AND THE BOYS.
CARDIFF TILL I DIE
Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:43 pm
brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:We are still Cardiff City.
How many Leeds fans give a f**k about playing in White? There club colours were blue and yellow until the 70s.
WE ARE CARDIFF ONE AND ALL. WHETHER RED OR BLUE WE ARE ALWAYS CARDIFF. THE CLUB I LOVE IS BEING TORN APART NOT BY TAN BUT BY PETTY FACTIONSISTS. IT HAD HAPPENED. IT HURTS. IT HURTS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
BUT PLEASE WE ARE CARDIFF AND NOW MORE THAN EVER WE MUST STAY UNITED.
FORGET COLOUR. SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY. SUPPORT MALKY AND THE BOYS.
WE SHOULD NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER.
WE ARE CARDIFF AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF.
I appreciate your optimism I can sense your passion mate but nar sorry I dont and cant see it as you do.
DOES ANYTHING ELSE REALLY, TRULY MATTER?
answer to the above is yes it matters[/quote
The colour of a shirt is more important than the friendship of the men you'be stood shoulder to shoulder with for years?
So important you'd sacrifice the very existence of our club?
I honestly respect your view but cannot reject the future financial security of the club on sentimentality.
If me, you or any other cardiff fan could secure our future and keep us in blue then it would be an ideal scenario.
Sadly no one cardiff fan has the means to do so. Therefore I'll take a future in red rather than a short future in blue.
It is the lesser of two evils IMHO.
BUT WE ARE STILL CARDIFF CITY.
FIGHTING EACH OTHER WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER.
WHAT IS DONE IS DONE.
LET'S STOP THE CIVIL WAR AND GET BACK TO SUPPORTING MALKY AND THE BOYS.
CARDIFF TILL I DIE
I understand your view mate and i respect it but for me we have been done over my clubs true identity is far more important than money and they have just ripped it all up and adding something totally foreigner to me and I cant accept it .I would rather play in league 2 as we were and I MEAN that.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:58 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:We are still Cardiff City.
How many Leeds fans give a f**k about playing in White? There club colours were blue and yellow until the 70s.
WE ARE CARDIFF ONE AND ALL. WHETHER RED OR BLUE WE ARE ALWAYS CARDIFF. THE CLUB I LOVE IS BEING TORN APART NOT BY TAN BUT BY PETTY FACTIONSISTS. IT HAD HAPPENED. IT HURTS. IT HURTS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
BUT PLEASE WE ARE CARDIFF AND NOW MORE THAN EVER WE MUST STAY UNITED.
FORGET COLOUR. SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY. SUPPORT MALKY AND THE BOYS.
WE SHOULD NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER.
WE ARE CARDIFF AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF.
I appreciate your optimism I can sense your passion mate but nar sorry I dont and cant see it as you do.
DOES ANYTHING ELSE REALLY, TRULY MATTER?
answer to the above is yes it matters[/quote
The colour of a shirt is more important than the friendship of the men you'be stood shoulder to shoulder with for years?
So important you'd sacrifice the very existence of our club?
I honestly respect your view but cannot reject the future financial security of the club on sentimentality.
If me, you or any other cardiff fan could secure our future and keep us in blue then it would be an ideal scenario.
Sadly no one cardiff fan has the means to do so. Therefore I'll take a future in red rather than a short future in blue.
It is the lesser of two evils IMHO.
BUT WE ARE STILL CARDIFF CITY.
FIGHTING EACH OTHER WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER.
WHAT IS DONE IS DONE.
LET'S STOP THE CIVIL WAR AND GET BACK TO SUPPORTING MALKY AND THE BOYS.
CARDIFF TILL I DIE
I understand your view mate and i respect it but for me we have been done over my clubs true identity is far more important than money and they have just ripped it all up and adding something totally foreigner to me and I cant accept it .I would rather play in league 2 as we were and I MEAN that.
Bricky, in all fairness mate whilst CCFC is obviously what we both care passionately about, we have different beliefs as to what CCFC actually is. To me its about having a club to take my boy to when he's old enough (he's three months away from being born yet!) I'll tell him about our history, 1927, beating Madrid, hamburg, putting pounds in a bucket to save the tin pot club up west. I'll teell him about MY city side with Eddie May in charge, blakey, dale, psycho, pikey etc.
But he will have his side too. Without the Malaysians he might.not have and for that I am truly grateful to them
For you it seems a CCFC in red can never be your CCFC and fair play I kind of understand that even if I can't agree with that ,personally.
But the one thing I can't get - and this isn't directed at you, or even at people in either camp - red or blue, its directed at all of us.... Is why are we turning on each other?
The lifeblood of thw club is not the owners, its not even the managers and the players, all of whom will eventually move on. It's us, the fans.
When we turn on each other it is us who is destroying the club, no one else.
Yes Tan has divided us.
But we are the ones who are turning on each other and we should be big enough to stop ourselves.
You and I see two very different pictures, but we both have enough respect for each other as fellow city fans.
Strip all of our beliefs and opinions back and that is the one true constant.
We are all still Cardiff.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:33 pm
brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:brickyblue wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:We are still Cardiff City.
How many Leeds fans give a f**k about playing in White? There club colours were blue and yellow until the 70s.
WE ARE CARDIFF ONE AND ALL. WHETHER RED OR BLUE WE ARE ALWAYS CARDIFF. THE CLUB I LOVE IS BEING TORN APART NOT BY TAN BUT BY PETTY FACTIONSISTS. IT HAD HAPPENED. IT HURTS. IT HURTS SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
BUT PLEASE WE ARE CARDIFF AND NOW MORE THAN EVER WE MUST STAY UNITED.
FORGET COLOUR. SUPPORT CARDIFF CITY. SUPPORT MALKY AND THE BOYS.
WE SHOULD NEVER TURN ON EACH OTHER.
WE ARE CARDIFF AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF.
I appreciate your optimism I can sense your passion mate but nar sorry I dont and cant see it as you do.
DOES ANYTHING ELSE REALLY, TRULY MATTER?
answer to the above is yes it matters[/quote
The colour of a shirt is more important than the friendship of the men you'be stood shoulder to shoulder with for years?
So important you'd sacrifice the very existence of our club?
I honestly respect your view but cannot reject the future financial security of the club on sentimentali ty.
If me, you or any other cardiff fan could secure our future and keep us in blue then it would be an ideal scenario.
Sadly no one cardiff fan has the means to do so. Therefore I'll take a future in red rather than a short future in blue.
It is the lesser of two evils IMHO.
BUT WE ARE STILL CARDIFF CITY.
FIGHTING EACH OTHER WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER.
WHAT IS DONE IS DONE.
LET'S STOP THE CIVIL WAR AND GET BACK TO SUPPORTING MALKY AND THE BOYS.
CARDIFF TILL I DIE
I understand your view mate and i respect it but for me we have been done over my clubs true identity is far more important than money and they have just ripped it all up and adding something totally foreigner to me and I cant accept it .I would rather play in league 2 as we were and I MEAN that.
Bricky, in all fairness mate whilst CCFC is obviously what we both care passionately about, we have different beliefs as to what CCFC actually is. To me its about having a club to take my boy to when he's old enough (he's three months away from being born yet!) I'll tell him about our history, 1927, beating Madrid, hamburg, putting pounds in a bucket to save the tin pot club up west. I'll teell him about MY city side with Eddie May in charge, blakey, dale, psycho, pikey etc.
But he will have his side too. Without the Malaysians he might.not have and for that I am truly grateful to them
For you it seems a CCFC in red can never be your CCFC and fair play I kind of understand that even if I can't agree with that , personally.
But the one thing I can't get - and this isn't directed at you, or even at people in either camp - red or blue, its directed at all of us.... Is why are we turning on each other?
The lifeblood of thw club is not the owners, its not even the managers and the players, all of whom will eventually move on. It's us, the fans.
When we turn on each other it is us who is destroying the club, no one else.
Yes Tan has divided us.
But we are the ones who are turning on each other and we should be big enough to stop ourselves.
You and I see two very different pictures, but we both have enough respect for each other as fellow city fans.
Strip all of our beliefs and opinions back and that is the one true constant.
We are all still Cardiff.
You have answered your own question here mate and that is V T has divided us ,he has caused all this what can you expect..
I already take my 2 sons and we have season tickets for a few years now and i am a fan of 34 years .you have to understand the representation of my club is the badge and the blue shirt and over many years I have become so so proud of it I have reached the point of no return.
I cant now control this it is totally built in now you could say I am institutionalised now.
My kids are confused and they are not happy.its like this hay kids you no that badge and kit you love ?yes .Well its gone now.How do I explain this to kids they are gutted.
Vt caused the divide amongst some of the most passionate fans in the uk what did he expect from all this other than a divide. You said managers players come and go but so do chairmen but until now nobody has chaged the clubs identity because they all new the importance of it but not this man who by the way its a football man.
Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:41 pm