I THINK WE MAY HAVE HAD THE ANNOUNCEMENT

Lot's of us are expecting a big announcement, me included, but what if there isn't one.What if the announcement we are expecting or hoping for, as already been made and we haven't recognised it,what if the recent statement was all we are going to get.

Isn't it a case of "we have made our case clear, the blue shirt remains, we carry on with things the way they have been running, and hopefully some further investors can be found in the near future".

The more I think about things, the more I think this may be the case, are we expecting VT to suddenly say " I made a proposal, which involved a huge investment and a change of shirt colour, and it was not acceptable to the fans of Cardiff City,therefor we carry on as we were, we will keep an involvement and support the club as we have been doing, whilst the club look for other investors".

Or are we expecting him to say " I came with a proposal, and asked for a colour change and was prepared to invest millions to fund this vision I had,the part I wanted which was to change the shirt colour was rebuffed, but I don't really mind and will still invest the one hundred million pounds anyway."

At least we will keep the blue shirts and if we have to exist with a cut price squad so be it, hopefully some investors will be looking to get involved in a club with a reported debt of seventy million pounds.

If we do get relegated and manage to keep twenty thousand + crowds, then with the new fair play rules coming in next year, we may be in a better position to compete in the first or second division with clubs who have a much smaller fan base, let's just hope our loyal fans stick with us and we should then at least have our destiny in our own hands, the more that come and the bigger the crowds, the more we can spend on players budgets.

Fingers crossed.

But we just made a bid of 5.5 million for a striker Gwyn Isn't that intent ? Or is it as I thought a smokescreen ? Well life at CCFC is never dull I suppose

But we just made a bid of 5.5 million for a striker Gwyn Isn't that intent ? Or is it as I thought a smokescreen ? Well life at CCFC is never dull I suppose

Like we made three million pound bid for that Watford player in January.
A five million pound bid can be made in five million different ways, a pound a week for five million years for example, bid made accepted no!

I have always wondered if the reference to 'finding other investors' was a vailed reference to selling up?

But we just made a bid of 5.5 million for a striker Gwyn Isn't that intent ? Or is it as I thought a smokescreen ? Well life at CCFC is never dull I suppose

Like we made three million pound bid for that Watford player in January.
A five million pound bid can be made in five million different ways, a pound a week for five million years for example, bid made accepted no!

Something tells me that wasn't far off the terms offered to Burnley

Why do CCFC fans think we are so important?

Do you honestly believe the club are thinking "lets put a fake bid out there to keep the oh so important fans happy"
Doesnt wash with me. CCFC never confirmed a bid so it may just have been papers making it up(surely not )

If VT wants to change red, make no mistake he will do and theres nothing anybody can do about it.

The last statement put on on May 15th said "All at the Cardiff City football club appreciate the desire and appetite from supporters to learn more, and as such further information will be released at the earliest opportunity".
This statement would indicate that an announcement will come but it does not tell us when.

Why do CCFC fans think we are so important?

Do you honestly believe the club are thinking "lets put a fake bid out there to keep the oh so important fans happy"
Doesnt wash with me. CCFC never confirmed a bid so it may just have been papers making it up(surely not )

If VT wants to change red, make no mistake he will do and theres nothing anybody can do about it.

I do not believe that VT has this attitude at all. If he did then he would have already made the change regardless.Due to the fans reaction, he stated that he did not want to offend us which indicates that he is not prepared (at this time) to steamroller in his plans.
To say there is nothing we can do about it is not correct. Due to fans opposition to the rebranding, I think that we have already done something about it. I think VT is astute enough to realise that he has to have buy in from the fans for his proposals otherwise if he cannot get the rebranding off the ground in his own backyard then plans to go global will be flawed.

But we just made a bid of 5.5 million for a striker Gwyn Isn't that intent ? Or is it as I thought a smokescreen ? Well life at CCFC is never dull I suppose

Like we made three million pound bid for that Watford player in January.
A five million pound bid can be made in five million different ways, a pound a week for five million years for example, bid made accepted no!

Thats what it was after all

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 39,00.html

That was the last official statement from the club and as regards any further information it's covered in the last paragraph.

"All at Cardiff City Football Club appreciate the desire and appetite from supporters to learn more, and as such further information will be released at the earliest opportunity."

I guess the board are still working on things and perhaps we should concern ourselves more with enjoying the lovely weather at the moment because it won't last.

At the end of the day we have no absolute right to be told about strategic business planning, afterall how many previous owners have bothered to tell us we can't pay the players or haven't paid the taxman before it happened.

Not many.

I agree with Gwyn on this but surely it makes sense for the owners/club to release the kit/badge for the coming season to confirm the postponement of the 're-branding'... and to sell some shirts?

The reports stating we were bidding for Jay Rodriguez have added to the confusion of what kind of investment will be made on the squad (regardless of whether or not the bid was legit).

I think either a statement needs to be made or the kit released asap.

I have said this before, I do not think some people's reaction to the proposals were dignified and became unjustifiable personal to our owners who have been gracious enough to keep the club afloat since Blackpool's playoffs. They were not given the chance to put their proposals forward and allow mature debate thereafter, which may have led to acceptable comprises, the name of the club and it's history was never threatened and they went on record to say they wanted our history to be valued for generations to come.
I believe if no documented statement is forth comming then actions of who stays, who goes and who comes in will be a clear indication of their intent.
I really hope that those who were able to address TG put a good case forward and he will do likewise in his meeting with VT.
But those who I speak with and yes it's only an opinion - believe the Malaysians are seriously considering an exit plan, if ones not under way already and if so will do so the best they can for themselves and our club. If they don't and exit without grace, then we all know that Cardiff has no future.
One poster enquired about Huddersfield, well In 80's we did not go in the large away following of recent years and they had larger crowds than we did, our return game at home was less than three housand.
If Gwyn is right and we return to Div 1 or 2 - then in such economic times, I do hope the fan base remains strong, personally not so sure and that's the point I would like our club to stabilise and move forwards without dramas of going bust every couple of years and allow future generations to have a team - a local team competing with the very best, maybe it's pie in the sky now... Who knows for sure.

I have said this before, I do not think some people's reaction to the proposals were dignified and became unjustifiable personal to our owners who have been gracious enough to keep the club afloat since Blackpool's playoffs. They were not given the chance to put their proposals forward and allow mature debate thereafter, which may have led to acceptable comprises, the name of the club and it's history was never threatened and they went on record to say they wanted our history to be valued for generations to come.
I believe if no documented statement is forth comming then actions of who stays, who goes and who comes in will be a clear indication of their intent.
I really hope that those who were able to address TG put a good case forward and he will do likewise in his meeting with VT.
But those who I speak with and yes it's only an opinion - believe the Malaysians are seriously considering an exit plan, if ones not under way already and if so will do so the best they can for themselves and our club. If they don't and exit without grace, then we all know that Cardiff has no future.
One poster enquired about Huddersfield, well In 80's we did not go in the large away following of recent years and they had larger crowds than we did, our return game at home was less than three housand.
If Gwyn is right and we return to Div 1 or 2 - then in such economic times, I do hope the fan base remains strong, personally not so sure and that's the point I would like our club to stabilise and move forwards without dramas of going bust every couple of years and allow future generations to have a team - a local team competing with the very best, maybe it's pie in the sky now... Who knows for sure.

Sorry to disagree but although there were no plans to change the name of the club, the other proposals to drop the bluebirds and replace it with a dragon was a step change too far for some fans.To say that the Malaysians did not have a chance to put out their proposals again is open to debate as some people in the know at our club knew several weeks before the issue was leaked.I think it was more of a case of leaving the announcement as late as possible thus leaving the fans with a fait accompli.
If you are correct and the Malaysians are as gracious as you belieive then we have nothing to worry about because the statements they have made thus far do not indicate any forthcoming exit. Although you claim that some people's reactions to the proposals were not dignified and I would fully agree that some of the comments aimed at the Malaysians were unacceptable, we must also remember that there was always going to be a huge reaction to these proposals. Where in my opinion we got it wrong was that initially when the proposals were drawn up, nobody at our club warned the Malaysians sufficiently that there would have been such a reaction.This obviously was not done because they said that the reaction had come as a shock to them.If at the early stages the Malaysians were made aware of the true feelings of the fans then perhaps some sort of compromise may have been reached.

They made 2 announcements

AN OPEN LETTER TO FANS FROM TG
Posted on: Thu 10 May 2012

An open letter from Dato' Chan Tien Ghee, Cardiff City Football Club Chairman to all supporters.

To begin, I would like to assure all supporters that the feelings toward Cardiff City Football Club from Malaysia remain as strong as ever. Since our arrival in 2010 we have been blessed and humbled by the passion and dedication of everyone associated with the club, a trait we quickly adopted ourselves, along with the collective aspirations to see Cardiff City succeed.



Having remained in regular and close contact with board members and the management team in Cardiff, both I and our principal investor, Tan Sri Vincent Tan, are aware of and fully appreciate the concerns from supporters and others alike given the scale of the bold, and as we believed necessary steps that would need to be taken if this football club is to be able to realise the dream and vision that I would hope all supporters have for our future. It was therefore unfortunate that someone felt the need to leak and break the confidential details of some of those plans before they had been fully finalised and agreed by the board, which has led to the series of events unfolding this week.

Following Cardiff based meetings and discussions with supporter representatives, media outlets and management staff at the club, led by Alan Whiteley, key points have been communicated, listened to and discussed in depth here in Malaysia. To that end I would like to communicate the following points to help supporters understand our feelings and the strategy going forward.

I can categorically state that there were never any plans to rename the club. Cardiff City Football Club has a rich history, which we are honoured to celebrate and share locally, nationally and internationally. Indeed, the intention and part of the reason for reaching agreement with the Cardiff Blues was to allow the stadium to become the sole home of the football club. As such it could embrace and honour the history and heritage through the ages at the stadium accordingly, a step that was intended to allow future generations to also remember, learn and appreciate the achievements of the club in years gone by.

It is clear to all concerned that the club simply cannot continue to function and exist in its current state, effectively losing large amounts of money each month, while acquiring more and more debt. We have continued along this path until the end of the current season, but the club inevitably now faces bold and real world decisions should we want to see the club survive. As romantic and simplistic a notion as it may seem, maintaining our current course without growth or change, is not, and cannot be, an option.

The new club crest and home colours which were being discussed were intended to demonstrate the symbolic fusion of Welsh and Asian cultures through the use of the colour red and the predominant featuring of a historical Welsh dragon under the Cardiff City FC name. This would have been a springboard for the successful commercialisation and promotion of the club and its brand, driving international revenues and allowing us to fund transfers and success locally, thereby giving the club the best chance of competing at the higher reaches of competition.

This was not meant as a slight in any way shape or form on the club's traditions or history which we recognise are the lifeblood of any club. It was intended as a positive change to allow us to adapt and embrace the future. Notwithstanding a number of rumours there were no further plans to turn the stadium red or make other radical changes.

The impending investment and development plans built on the above strategy which were in the course of being finalised and led by Tan Sri Vincent Tan were intended to greatly reinforce our long term affinity and reflect and represent a desire to see this great club grow, built on solid foundations that would ensure the prosperity of Cardiff City within South Wales for many generations to come. It was intended to reach settlements with the principal historic creditors, and for Tan Sri Vincent Tan to then transfer the debts currently due to him into equity and drive revenues through an aggressive marketing and commercialisation plan. This would as a result allow initial and further investment for team strengthening.

However we have no desire to cause offence or for people to think we have no respect for the club or its history as it would appear has been suggested in various quarters including by local assembly members. We would have hoped that the significant investment made to date would have already demonstrated our good faith in that regard. Indeed, we are disappointed that anybody would think the contrary. In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered as expressed directly to our local management and through various media and other outlets, we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge.

We will now reassess in conjunction with the board of the club the future strategy and the further ongoing investment necessary to allow the club to continue to trade. This may include looking for new and additional partners and investors.

Finally I would like to thank all associated with Cardiff City Football Club for their fantastic and continued support during the whole of the last season and to express my thanks to our manager and his team and staff at the football club for all their work last year in again getting us so close to promotion in what was always going to be a difficult transitional season.

Yours sincerely

TG

Their last announcement, makes you believe there will def be another one.


My strong opinion going on TG's statement, we are playing at HOME in BLUE next season


CLUB STATEMENT: 15 MAY 2012
Posted on: Wed 16 May 2012

Cardiff City Football Club Board members today met with Chairman Dato' Chan Tien Ghee to discuss future plans for the club, along with in-depth talks over the well documented events of the last seven days.

During the meeting, TG relayed views and opinions from the club's Malaysian investors, including those of Tan Sri Vincent Tan, while the UK board members present were also able to convey their thoughts and ideas on the best steps forward for the club.



Having collated all views and supportive documentation, TG will return to Malaysia early on Wednesday morning to outline all proposals, after which the club will be in a position to comment further on the future plans at Cardiff City FC.

Speaking of the meeting and recent events, TG said, "I would like to reiterate the commitment, warmth and great affinity that remains for this club from Tan Sri Vincent Tan and myself. We have nothing but the best interests of the club and its supporters to heart and will look to conclude matters as soon as possible to the best possible outcome. I would also like to personally thank the many who have sent in messages of heartfelt support and appreciation, either directly or via the club."

Please note that there will be no further comment on this matter from board members or management at this time. All at Cardiff City Football Club appreciate the desire and appetite from supporters to learn more, and as such further information will be released at the earliest opportunity.

Whats the point in surmising, the crucial thing Ive leant about the City is to believe in facts alone. We may have surely cut off our noses but we dont know that as yet and only until Ive read on the official site that the "For Sale" sign is up I'll believe that. What will be will be, its out of our hands. We just have to hope that they dont pull out or maybe its a clever game they play, who knows.....?

They made 2 announcements

AN OPEN LETTER TO FANS FROM TG
Posted on: Thu 10 May 2012

An open letter from Dato' Chan Tien Ghee, Cardiff City Football Club Chairman to all supporters.

To begin, I would like to assure all supporters that the feelings toward Cardiff City Football Club from Malaysia remain as strong as ever. Since our arrival in 2010 we have been blessed and humbled by the passion and dedication of everyone associated with the club, a trait we quickly adopted ourselves, along with the collective aspirations to see Cardiff City succeed.



Having remained in regular and close contact with board members and the management team in Cardiff, both I and our principal investor, Tan Sri Vincent Tan, are aware of and fully appreciate the concerns from supporters and others alike given the scale of the bold, and as we believed necessary steps that would need to be taken if this football club is to be able to realise the dream and vision that I would hope all supporters have for our future. It was therefore unfortunate that someone felt the need to leak and break the confidential details of some of those plans before they had been fully finalised and agreed by the board, which has led to the series of events unfolding this week.

Isn't that telling you something, coz it's speaking volumes to me.


Following Cardiff based meetings and discussions with supporter representatives, media outlets and management staff at the club, led by Alan Whiteley, key points have been communicated, listened to and discussed in depth here in Malaysia. To that end I would like to communicate the following points to help supporters understand our feelings and the strategy going forward.

I can categorically state that there were never any plans to rename the club. Cardiff City Football Club has a rich history, which we are honoured to celebrate and share locally, nationally and internationally. Indeed, the intention and part of the reason for reaching agreement with the Cardiff Blues was to allow the stadium to become the sole home of the football club. As such it could embrace and honour the history and heritage through the ages at the stadium accordingly, a step that was intended to allow future generations to also remember, learn and appreciate the achievements of the club in years gone by.

It is clear to all concerned that the club simply cannot continue to function and exist in its current state, effectively losing large amounts of money each month, while acquiring more and more debt. We have continued along this path until the end of the current season, but the club inevitably now faces bold and real world decisions should we want to see the club survive. As romantic and simplistic a notion as it may seem, maintaining our current course without growth or change, is not, and cannot be, an option.


Yet it now looks like we have blocked the change, so what does that tell you.


The new club crest and home colours which were being discussed were intended to demonstrate the symbolic fusion of Welsh and Asian cultures through the use of the colour red and the predominant featuring of a historical Welsh dragon under the Cardiff City FC name. This would have been a springboard for the successful commercialisation and promotion of the club and its brand, driving international revenues and allowing us to fund transfers and success locally, thereby giving the club the best chance of competing at the higher reaches of competition.

Again, using this word would,as it is in the past tense speaks volumes to me, hope I'm wrong.

This was not meant as a slight in any way shape or form on the club's traditions or history which we recognise are the lifeblood of any club. It was intended as a positive change to allow us to adapt and embrace the future. Notwithstanding a number of rumours there were no further plans to turn the stadium red or make other radical changes.

Past tense again, help.

The impending investment and development plans built on the above strategy which were in the course of being finalised and led by Tan Sri Vincent Tan were intended to greatly reinforce our long term affinity and reflect and represent a desire to see this great club grow, built on solid foundations that would ensure the prosperity of Cardiff City within South Wales for many generations to come. It was intended to reach settlements with the principal historic creditors, and for Tan Sri Vincent Tan to then transfer the debts currently due to him into equity and drive revenues through an aggressive marketing and commercialisation plan. This would as a result allow initial and further investment for team strengthening.

Anything positive or forward thinking there, or all past tense again.


However we have no desire to cause offence or for people to think we have no respect for the club or its history as it would appear has been suggested in various quarters including by local assembly members. We would have hoped that the significant investment made to date would have already demonstrated our good faith in that regard. Indeed, we are disappointed that anybody would think the contrary. In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered as expressed directly to our local management and through various media and other outlets, we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge.

Is that not saying, surely we had earnt a bit of trust by our actions so far.

We will now reassess in conjunction with the board of the club the future strategy and the further ongoing investment necessary to allow the club to continue to trade. This may include looking for new and additional partners and investors.

And why have they suddenly said this now, they have ample funds on their own, is this not a case of them saying, let's get some more in, so we can slope off?


Finally I would like to thank all associated with Cardiff City Football Club for their fantastic and continued support during the whole of the last season and to express my thanks to our manager and his team and staff at the football club for all their work last year in again getting us so close to promotion in what was always going to be a difficult transitional season.

To me, that ain't far off seeing a player about to leave the club, come ofver clap the fans and throw his shirt into the crowd.

Yours sincerely

TG

Gwyn and yet they say they bid £5.5 to Burnley last week and Malky says he is very happy with the backing he will get from them for next season.
They say they offered a million to Fleetwood / £5.5 mill to Burnley in the last 10 days. Hmm
I would like to see them buy some one.

Bluebird 64, you make some valid points and I have no idea why the information disclosed to a few outside that of the board of Directors - I heard whispers that announcements re investment was possibly going to be made, but not with the issues of rebranding attached. Hopefully lessons will be learnt from this.
We both concur, in truth there are those who would be quite happy for the investment to materialise - to change the club strip and badge, I am not ecstatic over such changes but would support it wholeheartedly for the longer term interest in the club. I also understand those who struggle to accept such a change. But I would add none should ride rough shot over each others views.
If it happens... Those not in favour I would hope would still support the club if they were in the minority and jump on board for yet another journey, even if it's with heavy hearts and if it doesn't materialise then again without animosity to what I believe would be a minority (if a vote was casted) and who didn't want change, for the majority to accept it and see where that train takes us - and this I believe is what Gwyn is saying in opening up the debate. I got no plans in going wherever either journey takes, but there will be some who won't, that's for certain and a shame.
Where I think the Malaysians have acted honourably is one - they didn't bulldoze the plans regardless of opinion - They plough in the money and could do what they want in order to recouperate there investment, no matter how distasteful, we have seen that happen at other clubs and two in view of the initial uproar of such proposed changes, they quickly acted to diffuse tension between the supporters and withdrew for time being there plans for there proposed way forward - which has left the club and it's supporters in limbo -
Personally I hope they stay, not sure whether in this economic climate the club will survive and hope those who presented the case for Cardiff City has done so well and retained V T and his financial commitment to the club.
This limbo I believe will come clear by as I said, in the absence of a documented statement by who stays, goes, comes in, but I know that's only my opinion.

Gwyn,do you think CITY FANS should now be told what is the out come of past weeks? if so, how can we push VT into some sort of statement. ps, its still GAME ON.

Gwyn and yet they say they bid £5.5 to Burnley last week and Malky says he is very happy with the backing he will get from them for next season.
They say they offered a million to Fleetwood / £5.5 mill to Burnley in the last 10 days. Hmm
I would like to see them buy some one.

Does the club,or just papers and so on say they put a bid in of 5.5mil

I honestly don't think the majority of supporters have a clue if these bids were factual or just paper talk. I have to agree it would be good for club and supporters to actually sign someone of such intent, that may then tend to suggest Malky is being supported and there is no immediate Malaysian exit... Back to waiting game.... and so it goes in full circle

What about "further information will be released at the earliest opportunity" would make you think we have already had "the announcement"?

Pointless thread.

Gwyn and yet they say they bid £5.5 to Burnley last week and Malky says he is very happy with the backing he will get from them for next season.
They say they offered a million to Fleetwood / £5.5 mill to Burnley in the last 10 days. Hmm
I would like to see them buy some one.

Does the club,or just papers and so on say they put a bid in of 5.5mil

Reliable people from our club told media Wales etc. and wanted it out.

Lot's of us are expecting a big announcement, me included, but what if there isn't one.What if the announcement we are expecting or hoping for, as already been made and we haven't recognised it,what if the recent statement was all we are going to get.

Isn't it a case of "we have made our case clear, the blue shirt remains, we carry on with things the way they have been running, and hopefully some further investors can be found in the near future".

The more I think about things, the more I think this may be the case, are we expecting VT to suddenly say " I made a proposal, which involved a huge investment and a change of shirt colour, and it was not acceptable to the fans of Cardiff City,therefor we carry on as we were, we will keep an involvement and support the club as we have been doing, whilst the club look for other investors".

Or are we expecting him to say " I came with a proposal, and asked for a colour change and was prepared to invest millions to fund this vision I had,the part I wanted which was to change the shirt colour was rebuffed, but I don't really mind and will still invest the one hundred million pounds anyway."

At least we will keep the blue shirts and if we have to exist with a cut price squad so be it, hopefully some investors will be looking to get involved in a club with a reported debt of seventy million pounds.

If we do get relegated and manage to keep twenty thousand + crowds, then with the new fair play rules coming in next year, we may be in a better position to compete in the first or second division with clubs who have a much smaller fan base, let's just hope our loyal fans stick with us and we should then at least have our destiny in our own hands, the more that come and the bigger the crowds, the more we can spend on players budgets.

Fingers crossed.

There will be an announcement.....surely. TG as good as said there will be a further announcement at the end of his last statement when he came to a meeting at CCS following the furore about the colour change.

Gwyn,do you think CITY FANS should now be told what is the out come of past weeks? if so, how can we push VT into some sort of statement. ps, its still GAME ON.

From what I am told VT is not the sort of man to take a pushing, and there in I believe lies part of the problem, he may see some of our responses as a push, and has decided to simply push off but in a dignified manner.

Whens the announcement then?

What i would like to know is if the Malaysians walk away and who could blame them ,who was responsible for allowing the Blues to walk away from what was a legal and binding contract?after all who needs a pristine football pitch in the third division.

Lot's of us are expecting a big announcement, me included, but what if there isn't one.What if the announcement we are expecting or hoping for, as already been made and we haven't recognised it,what if the recent statement was all we are going to get.

Isn't it a case of "we have made our case clear, the blue shirt remains, we carry on with things the way they have been running, and hopefully some further investors can be found in the near future".

The more I think about things, the more I think this may be the case, are we expecting VT to suddenly say " I made a proposal, which involved a huge investment and a change of shirt colour, and it was not acceptable to the fans of Cardiff City,therefor we carry on as we were, we will keep an involvement and support the club as we have been doing, whilst the club look for other investors".

Or are we expecting him to say " I came with a proposal, and asked for a colour change and was prepared to invest millions to fund this vision I had,the part I wanted which was to change the shirt colour was rebuffed, but I don't really mind and will still invest the one hundred million pounds anyway."

At least we will keep the blue shirts and if we have to exist with a cut price squad so be it, hopefully some investors will be looking to get involved in a club with a reported debt of seventy million pounds.

If we do get relegated and manage to keep twenty thousand + crowds, then with the new fair play rules coming in next year, we may be in a better position to compete in the first or second division with clubs who have a much smaller fan base, let's just hope our loyal fans stick with us and we should then at least have our destiny in our own hands, the more that come and the bigger the crowds, the more we can spend on players budgets.

Fingers crossed.

dream on if you think someone is stupid enough to invest 70mil in a team! what planet are you on??? just curious???? 20k if relegated gets worse sorry off your head if you think we will get 20k in div 1 mind you at least we will be in blue!!! wont get relegated unless vt pulls out if he does welll unless you are blind! outcome is obvious and then what?? get your wish to watch city in blue in div ?? we end up in! blue at whatever the cost to club?? makes no sence whats so ever!!!

Lot's of us are expecting a big announcement, me included, but what if there isn't one.What if the announcement we are expecting or hoping for, as already been made and we haven't recognised it,what if the recent statement was all we are going to get.

Isn't it a case of "we have made our case clear, the blue shirt remains, we carry on with things the way they have been running, and hopefully some further investors can be found in the near future".

The more I think about things, the more I think this may be the case, are we expecting VT to suddenly say " I made a proposal, which involved a huge investment and a change of shirt colour, and it was not acceptable to the fans of Cardiff City,therefor we carry on as we were, we will keep an involvement and support the club as we have been doing, whilst the club look for other investors".

Or are we expecting him to say " I came with a proposal, and asked for a colour change and was prepared to invest millions to fund this vision I had,the part I wanted which was to change the shirt colour was rebuffed, but I don't really mind and will still invest the one hundred million pounds anyway."

At least we will keep the blue shirts and if we have to exist with a cut price squad so be it, hopefully some investors will be looking to get involved in a club with a reported debt of seventy million pounds.

If we do get relegated and manage to keep twenty thousand + crowds, then with the new fair play rules coming in next year, we may be in a better position to compete in the first or second division with clubs who have a much smaller fan base, let's just hope our loyal fans stick with us and we should then at least have our destiny in our own hands, the more that come and the bigger the crowds, the more we can spend on players budgets.

Fingers crossed.

dream on if you think someone is stupid enough to invest 70mil in a team! what planet are you on??? just curious???? 20k if relegated gets worse sorry off your head if you think we will get 20k in div 1 mind you at least we will be in blue!!! wont get relegated unless vt pulls out if he does welll unless you are blind! outcome is obvious and then what?? get your wish to watch city in blue in div ?? we end up in! blue at whatever the cost to club?? makes no sence whats so ever!!!