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The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:45 pm

We were lying 3rd in January and failed to strengthen. All this bollocks that the money was there was 'pie in the sky' and they should be ashamed of themselves for making 'some' of us believe their propaganda.

Getting promoted 'on the cheap' (which is what Dave Jones accused them of) is what they have attemped to do again and it doesn't work!!! Yes occasionally once in a while teams like Swansea go up but the vast majority of the time the team which spends its money well comes up trumps.

All season we have been crying out of a tall centre forward and all season Rudy has been our only option and its a disgrace!!!! Even bringing MacPhil back is a huge backward step IMO and not to mention the issue of Earnie.

Don;t get me wrong the Wembley appearence this year was one of the best times in my life but there 'could' have been so many more times like that next season had the Malaysians knew their football :evil:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:47 pm

Last I heard you were annoyed with the loss we made :shock:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:50 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Last I heard you were annoyed with the loss we made :shock:


The pot of Gold was there waiting for the club but they decided to leave it for their business competitors to grab with both hands instead.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:53 pm

West ham also went for it and it have them no guarantees in the push for the autos.
What if we had spent 4m and didn't go up, you would then use that against them for creating further debt.

If the club doesn't have the money then tough, we need to look at ways to increase revenue.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:55 pm

I think the players might have a little to do with it! :oops:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:55 pm

2blue2handle wrote:West ham also went for it and it have them no guarantees in the push for the autos.
What if we had spent 4m and didn't go up, you would then use that against them for creating further debt.

If the club doesn't have the money then tough, we need to look at ways to increase revenue.


and how muych have we saved in wages and gained from transfer fees..? the difference is much smaller than £4m as you had the Chorpa transfer to Ipswich bringing in £2 million alone and thats without the savings made on wages.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:58 pm

So you Should be pleased the seasonly deficit is being reduced considering you critisized the 12m loss?

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:West ham also went for it and it have them no guarantees in the push for the autos.
What if we had spent 4m and didn't go up, you would then use that against them for creating further debt.

If the club doesn't have the money then tough, we need to look at ways to increase revenue.


and how muych have we saved in wages and gained from transfer fees..? the difference is much smaller than £4m as you had the Chorpa transfer to Ipswich bringing in £2 million alone and thats without the savings made on wages.


Chopra was sold for £1 million. We also don't receive all of our transfer fees.

But please don't let facts get in the way.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:01 pm

Angry Man wrote:We were lying 3rd in January and failed to strengthen. All this bollocks that the money was there was 'pie in the sky' and they should be ashamed of themselves for making 'some' of us believe their propaganda.

Getting promoted 'on the cheap' (which is what Dave Jones accused them of) is what they have attemped to do again and it doesn't work!!! Yes occasionally once in a while teams like Swansea go up but the vast majority of the time the team which spends its money well comes up trumps.

All season we have been crying out of a tall centre forward and all season Rudy has been our only option and its a disgrace!!!! Even bringing MacPhil back is a huge backward step IMO and not to mention the issue of Earnie.

Don;t get me wrong the Wembley appearence this year was one of the best times in my life but there 'could' have been so many more times like that next season had the Malaysians knew their football :evil:


Oh! Quick, lets blame someone.

I wonder who Blackpool or Brum will blame?

No team has a given right to promotion no matter how much is invested. (ask the Leicester fans)

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:04 pm

Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:West ham also went for it and it have them no guarantees in the push for the autos.
What if we had spent 4m and didn't go up, you would then use that against them for creating further debt.

If the club doesn't have the money then tough, we need to look at ways to increase revenue.


and how muych have we saved in wages and gained from transfer fees..? the difference is much smaller than £4m as you had the Chorpa transfer to Ipswich bringing in £2 million alone and thats without the savings made on wages.


Chopra was sold for £1 million. We also don't receive all of our transfer fees.

But please don't let facts get in the way.


The same could be said with our costings for signing players then but as you said don't let the facts get in the way. For example no-one knows if we paid the total transfer fee for Kenny Miller up front yet many are suggesting that is the case.

Also to come back on 2blues point I have always been one for getting the debt down. However we were where we were in January and if we had football people at the helm then they would have finacially supported the manager in that position with just a few months to go!!!!!

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:10 pm

No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:12 pm

2blue2handle wrote:No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.


I think you should have said the bills would have been paid out of the Premiership pot of Gold ;)

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:14 pm

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.


I think you should have said the bills would have been paid out of the Premiership pot of Gold ;)


That's what Sam thought would happen when he got the stadium - he failed
Ridsdale though by remortgaging everything he could - we never went up.

Easy to promise or spend someone else's money.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:18 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.


I think you should have said the bills would have been paid out of the Premiership pot of Gold ;)


That's what Sam thought would happen when he got the stadium - he failed
Ridsdale though by remortgaging everything he could - we never went up.

Easy to promise or spend someone else's money.


Yeah very easy, just like the so-called promises that money was there in January yet it was pure propaganda.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:18 pm

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.


I think you should have said the bills would have been paid out of the Premiership pot of Gold ;)


That's what Sam thought would happen when he got the stadium - he failed
Ridsdale though by remortgaging everything he could - we never went up.

Easy to promise or spend someone else's money.


Yeah very easy, just like the so-called promises that money was there in January yet it was pure propaganda.


Who promised that?

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:21 pm

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.


I think you should have said the bills would have been paid out of the Premiership pot of Gold ;)


That's what Sam thought would happen when he got the stadium - he failed
Ridsdale though by remortgaging everything he could - we never went up.

Easy to promise or spend someone else's money.


Yeah very easy, just like the so-called promises that money was there in January yet it was pure propaganda.


Money there or propaganda, makes no odds now.

I think what people have to realise, it's the Malaysians club to play with and do what they see fit.
Unless you have more cash than them to invest? :D :D

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:25 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:No doubt Sam and PR would have went for it, but ultimately the club would have paid.


I think you should have said the bills would have been paid out of the Premiership pot of Gold ;)


That's what Sam thought would happen when he got the stadium - he failed
Ridsdale though by remortgaging everything he could - we never went up.

Easy to promise or spend someone else's money.


Yeah very easy, just like the so-called promises that money was there in January yet it was pure propaganda.


Who promised that?


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -30199803/

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:26 pm

So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:30 pm

2blue2handle wrote:So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Get back in your box.

Oh yeah these so-called confirmed bids. What was it now a penny ever week for 100,000,000,000,000 years!!! :lol:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:31 pm

2blue2handle wrote:So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.


Correct. Not bullshit as rekoned by some. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
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Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:32 pm

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Get back in your box.

Oh yeah these so-called confirmed bids. What was it now a penny ever week for 100,000,000,000,000 years!!! :lol:


Because you have access to proposed contracts? Er....no! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:33 pm

SBF1 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Get back in your box.

Oh yeah these so-called confirmed bids. What was it now a penny ever week for 100,000,000,000,000 years!!! :lol:


Because you have access to proposed contracts? Er....no! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Just as much access as the likes of 2blue I guess yet people like him are taking just a strong a stance at the other side of the arguement.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:34 pm

Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Get back in your box.

Oh yeah these so-called confirmed bids. What was it now a penny ever week for 100,000,000,000,000 years!!! :lol:


It was an offer good enough for Watford to pull sordell out of a league game and for him to believe he was going to sign :roll:
Watford and sordell confirmed, your comments just hear'say.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Mon May 07, 2012 11:41 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:So money was available, no mentioned of how much.
We signed harris and other clubs confirmed we made bids.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Get back in your box.

Oh yeah these so-called confirmed bids. What was it now a penny ever week for 100,000,000,000,000 years!!! :lol:


It was an offer good enough for Watford to pull sordell out of a league game and for him to believe he was going to sign :roll:
Watford and sordell confirmed, your comments just hear'say.


Due to the financial mess Watford were in at the time any offer was good enough hense why Bolton took the opportunity to get him for a undisclosed fee.

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Tue May 08, 2012 12:05 am

At least your not blaming the electorate up the Gurnos this time. :lol: :lol:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Tue May 08, 2012 12:19 am

Angry Man wrote:We were lying 3rd in January and failed to strengthen. All this bollocks that the money was there was 'pie in the sky' and they should be ashamed of themselves for making 'some' of us believe their propaganda.

Getting promoted 'on the cheap' (which is what Dave Jones accused them of) is what they have attemped to do again and it doesn't work!!! Yes occasionally once in a while teams like Swansea go up but the vast majority of the time the team which spends its money well comes up trumps.

All season we have been crying out of a tall centre forward and all season Rudy has been our only option and its a disgrace!!!! Even bringing MacPhil back is a huge backward step IMO and not to mention the issue of Earnie.

Don;t get me wrong the Wembley appearence this year was one of the best times in my life but there 'could' have been so many more times like that next season had the Malaysians knew their football :evil:

yawn :roll:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Tue May 08, 2012 6:20 am

We all knew we would be saying this come may. Yet some of us have been saying it since january ended, most tryed the old support the jacks or your a c**t replys when the likes of adam, myself and a few others questioned the owners and club after january had gone. The whole BIDS in the sky was never going to come off when the agent of sordell starts telling people how we was paying 50pence per week over 5years. Sky andrew likes to talk when he shouldnt as hes done it before in other deals but also hes the agent of jay bothroyd and a few others we all know. The same thing happened with the other bids and thats why the seagulls chairman said no chance and im guessing :lol: @ it :ayatollah:
Bottom line is we didnt get players in jan when we clearly needed 3-4 faces , even are manager played the harp about it for seven months in the media :shock:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Tue May 08, 2012 7:04 am

Angry man you seem to be on here an awful lot the last couple of days. how have you got so much time on your hands?!

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Tue May 08, 2012 7:52 am

they dont own the whole club so why should they? if we went up this year leeches like pmg wud want more $$$$$.
if they takeover all will change i guarantee it. VT is the wealthiest chairman in the champ and about 10th in all leagues i believe. lets just hope a full takeover happens. i dont care if we play in pink :lol: :lol:

Re: The Malaysians are the ONLY people to blame for NOT going up

Tue May 08, 2012 7:57 am

thehumblegringo wrote:Angry man you seem to be on here an awful lot the last couple of days. how have you got so much time on your hands?!


Multitasking you see. You should try it sometime as you may increase your household income if done well.