That tackle on Conway . . . Ref hang your head in shame

how in gawds name that was not a sending off I will never know

Photo shows just how bad it was

BBC reporting it could be a break

Thought this Ref had a reputation for sending people off?

His performance was summed up by booking Marshall for time wasting when he was waiting for a replacement ball to be sent on

What is it with crap refereeing lately?


It's like the FA is trying to force the technology debate through by telling referees to be bad and telling FIFA it's needed.

how in gawds name that was not a sending off I will never know

Photo shows just how bad it was

BBC reporting it could be a break

Thought this Ref had a reputation for sending people off?

His performance was summed up by booking Marshall for time wasting when he was waiting for a replacement ball to be sent on

this was a joke!!

ref has sent most players off this season and failed to today for a def red card.

Wild like to see that tackle again. A joke by the ref from my point of view

I thought the ref was poor today but not abley assisted by piss poor linesman that didn't know if he was coming or going!

The ref had it in for Marshall he gave him warning after warning and was always hurrying him to take goal kicks. Personally I didn't think Marshall was time wasting. I have seen some refs down here allow a lot more time for the goalies to get their kicks out, in fact sometimes they assist the opposition by allowing their goalies to take ages especially if they are winning.

Quite frankly the ref was out of his depth.

I thought the ref was poor today but not abley assisted by piss poor linesman that didn't know if he was coming or going!

The ref had it in for Marshall he gave him warning after warning and was always hurrying him to take goal kicks. Personally I didn't think Marshall was time wasting. I have seen some refs down here allow a lot more time for the goalies to get their kicks out, in fact sometimes they assist the opposition by allowing their goalies to take ages especially if they are winning.

Quite frankly the ref was out of his depth.

Agreed. I didn't feel that Marshall was doing any intentional time wasting, their player taking 7 hours to leave the pitch wasted more time than Marshall.

It's coz we shag sheep.

We all know that if Man Utd had had ref/linesman decisions like we have had most of this season, they would be back on the parks WHERE THEY BELONG (along with the dog shit).

The league do not want us to to get promotion, and will pull every cheating tosser out of the bag to make sure.

The ref was shit. Conspiracy theories will say the FA don't want us up.

Yes the ref had a shocker. But the biggest shocker was our second half performance. Please lets not get bogged down in its constantly the refs fault.

Please lets not get bogged down in its constantly the refs fault.

Difficult not to do that Steve. You saw what happened at Boro.

The tackle on Conway was a shocker and should have been a straight red. Our performance completely dropped once Conway went off.

The ref should also have sent Nosworthy off for a deliberate elbow on Gunnarsson when he was running through on goal.

Yes the ref had a shocker. But the biggest shocker was our second half performance. Please lets not get bogged down in its constantly the refs fault.

I don't think anyone is using it as an excuse for the result but let's be honest we have had our fair share of shocking decisions lately.
Also the quality of officials the last few months has been shocking.

If jacks weren't already in the prem I would probably agree with the conspiracy theorists that the FA don't want us (a welsh club) in their premiership.

However I would say if we had the ability to close games down after being a single goal up then the poor refeering decisions wouldn't be highlighted so much.

I think it fair to say that refs cannot cope, with the speed/pace of the modern game IMO. Can it be so wrong for the FA to look at ways of adding to the amount of officials on the field of play....say a linesperson in each half of the field and one each end behind the goal. Just look at how many officials tennis matches have. I know it's different sport and faster paced but the courts are small enough and yet they seem to have quite a few watching the lines from different angles etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ackle.html

How can Turner get the same punishment for shoulder barging an opponent whilst Hogg goes in with a horror challenge and has possibly broken a players ankle? Shocking

To be honest I thought the Watford player slid in from the side and cleanly took the ball first, then with the momentum he caught Conway following through after taking the ball. It looked a good clean tackle to me and I wasn't sure it was even a free-kick, nevermind a sending off like some of you are suggesting.

It's coz we shag sheep.

But we don't.

It's coz we shag sheep.

But we don't.

Don't we

It's coz we shag sheep.

But we don't.

Don't we

I meant it's coz we're Welsh.

To be honest I thought the Watford player slid in from the side and cleanly took the ball first, then with the momentum he caught Conway following through after taking the ball. It looked a good clean tackle to me and I wasn't sure it was even a free-kick, nevermind a sending off like some of you are suggesting.

I was about 15 metres away with Conway running towards us, Hogg went straight through Conway to get the ball and the look in his eyes as he launched himself told the full story

In any event, even if Hogg had got the ball cleanly he still left the ground and was therefore not in control which is a sending off nowadays as directed by the FA.

Have a look at the photo in the link and tell me how this isn't going through a player to get the ball. He is slightly to the side but there is now way he can get the ball without doing serious damage to Conway. In Don Murrays day that would have been OK but nowadays there is no dispute; sending off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17646784

We'll never know whether that decision cost us a win but please don't try to say that the tackle was anything other than a sending off, it was one of the worst I've seen this season and may well prove to have broken Conways ankle in the process.

To be honest I thought the Watford player slid in from the side and cleanly took the ball first, then with the momentum he caught Conway following through after taking the ball. It looked a good clean tackle to me and I wasn't sure it was even a free-kick, nevermind a sending off like some of you are suggesting.

I was about 15 metres away with Conway running towards us, Hogg went straight through Conway to get the ball and the look in his eyes as he launched himself told the full story

In any event, even if Hogg had got the ball cleanly he still left the ground and was therefore not in control which is a sending off nowadays as directed by the FA.

Have a look at the photo in the link and tell me how this isn't going through a player to get the ball. He is slightly to the side but there is now way he can get the ball without doing serious damage to Conway. In Don Murrays day that would have been OK but nowadays there is no dispute; sending off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17646784

We'll never know whether that decision cost us a win but please don't try to say that the tackle was anything other than a sending off, it was one of the worst I've seen this season and may well prove to have broken Conways ankle in the process.

To be honest even looking at that picture it seems the Watford player has slid in from the side and is cleanly taking the ball with his left foot. I appreciate we all see the game differently and if he went straight through the back of Conway, I would be saying it's a definite red, but my honest opinion was he slid in from the side and he did take the ball first. Everyone seems certain it was a red mind so perhaps I should see it again.

To be honest I thought the Watford player slid in from the side and cleanly took the ball first, then with the momentum he caught Conway following through after taking the ball. It looked a good clean tackle to me and I wasn't sure it was even a free-kick, nevermind a sending off like some of you are suggesting.

I was about 15 metres away with Conway running towards us, Hogg went straight through Conway to get the ball and the look in his eyes as he launched himself told the full story

In any event, even if Hogg had got the ball cleanly he still left the ground and was therefore not in control which is a sending off nowadays as directed by the FA.

Have a look at the photo in the link and tell me how this isn't going through a player to get the ball. He is slightly to the side but there is now way he can get the ball without doing serious damage to Conway. In Don Murrays day that would have been OK but nowadays there is no dispute; sending off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17646784

We'll never know whether that decision cost us a win but please don't try to say that the tackle was anything other than a sending off, it was one of the worst I've seen this season and may well prove to have broken Conways ankle in the process.

To be honest even looking at that picture it seems the Watford player has slid in from the side and is cleanly taking the ball with his left foot. I appreciate we all see the game differently and if he went straight through the back of Conway, I would be saying it's a definite red, but my honest opinion was he slid in from the side and he did take the ball first. Everyone seems certain it was a red mind so perhaps I should see it again.

I completely agree with you mate. I mus have done 500 tackles like these over the years and never got sent off for any of them.

Judging by the reactions though I reckon we are in the minority.

Funny but at the time I don't remember the whole ground going beserk as maybe they should have if it was as bad as made out . The reaction was quite tepid. I reckon I was the only one singing 'off, off', and i didn't even think it was too bad
Ex-centre halfs will think it was great, whilst those poncy midfielder types will be calling fr the red.

I completely agree with you mate. I mus have done 500 tackles like these over the years and never got sent off for any of them.

Problem we have these days is that people are screaming for red cards for "tackles" that we wouldn't even have deemed a free kick say five years ago. At our last refs meeting we were debating incidents and one that I looked at as an imposing centre half winnign the ball aggresively but cleanly was looked at as someone else as serious foul play. The game is changing far too much and far too quickly and much of the time it's not for the better.

I've only seen the tackle once and I did think it was a red card offence but I'll see it again before I make further comment. Listneing to the game on layer, they did seem to be flying into the tackles.

If jacks weren't already in the prem I would probably agree with the conspiracy theorists that the FA don't want us (a welsh club) in their premiership.

However I would say if we had the ability to close games down after being a single goal up then the poor refeering decisions wouldn't be highlighted so much.

I think it fair to say that refs cannot cope, with the speed/pace of the modern game IMO. Can it be so wrong for the FA to look at ways of adding to the amount of officials on the field of play....say a linesperson in each half of the field and one each end behind the goal. Just look at how many officials tennis matches have. I know it's different sport and faster paced but the courts are small enough and yet they seem to have quite a few watching the lines from different angles etc.

The ref has a job to keep up with the speed of the game !! Well that is very true but even a one legged ref running around on his one stump could keep up with our lot

watched it several times at it was never a red card. a strong challenge. if it had been one of your players im sure you would have been applauding a challenge like that.

No we would not have, as that tosser/ref would have sent a cardiff player off for an identical tackle.

watched it several times at it was never a red card. a strong challenge. if it had been one of your players im sure you would have been applauding a challenge like that.

No chance Conway is now out for 3 months. That tackle was meant to hurt him as there was no way that he could get the ball without going through Conway. I was 10-15 yards away from it and the look in his eyes told it all as did the scream from Conway

Awful tackle that , in this day and age, merited a straight red. Everyone in the Ninian Stand in Blocks 114/115 had a perfect view and were screaming for the red card as soon as it happened.

Poor decision but even poorer tackle that has ended a players season

i think the majority of you need to get off your high horse. hogg is not the sort of player who would set out to hurt someone, he gives his all for every game. he went in hard and its unfortunate but that is all it is. as for malky having a go, those are the sort of tackles that malky was reknowned for.

i think the majority of you need to get off your high horse. hogg is not the sort of player who would set out to hurt someone, he gives his all for every game. he went in hard and its unfortunate but that is all it is. as for malky having a go, those are the sort of tackles that malky was reknowned for.

Bollocks, just saying it as it is I'm not saying Hogg is a dirty player, never noticed him before, but that was a dirty tackle designed to hurt a player who was beginning to cause you some concern down the right, and you can dress it up how you like.

Just to balance things up, Kiss was booked for a tackle in the 2nd half, quite rightly. That tackle was from behind but he did not go through the player and both feet did not leave the ground but I still say it was a poor tackle that deserved a booking. Similarly Marshall was booked for time wasting and I have no qualms about that. In both instances they received the correct level of sanction; Hogg didn't.