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" WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ? "

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:03 pm

Since the end of the January transfer window and the failed bids for players many have been asking the question "If we had bid nearly £5million for players in January why has there been very little activity with loans?"

Personally I think that is a fair question to ask.

Many feel that there may be a lack of backing from the board and that these bids were never real and they were simply 'put out there' to keep us happy.

What I can tell you tonight is that each day for the past 7 days, Malky Mackay and Alan Whiteley have taken calls from Vincent Tan and TG in Malaysia and questions are being asked about the lack of signings.

The funds are in place and the Malaysians are asking everyday when are the players coming in, they are putting pressure on Malky and his team to bring in new signings.

So far since arriving at the club the Malaysians have invested £36million through the initial investment, paying off the creditors and propping the club up to the tune of £1.2million per month and some months that figure has risen to £1.5million.

With regards to the failed bids, £3million had been set aside for two of the players that Malky wanted to do the deals immediately. £2million was ready to be paid up front for Marvin Sordell and the remainder through instalments and the other £1million for Craig Noone and again more to follow as a way of add-ons.

The Sordell deal went pear shaped when his agent Sky Andrew went running to Bolton once he knew Watford had accepted City's offer.

The Noone deal was because of Brighton's chairman declaring no-one was being sold when he arrived in the UK from Australia on the final afternoon of deadline day.

The club made genuine offers and the bank details had been received from both Brighton and Watford to accept the payment for both of these players.

Malky Mackay has a team of people that 'sound out' potential signings and it is Ian Moody (head of recruitment) who ultimately chooses a target and then the player is checked out and a dossier prepared before a bid is made.

So rest assured the Malaysians want the signings as much as we want them and Malky and his staff are working very hard to bring in new loans.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:06 pm

Thanks for the info carl :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:06 pm

carlccfc wrote:Since the end of the January transfer window and the failed bids for players many have been asking the question "If we had bid nearly £5million for players in January why has there been very little activity with loans?"

Personally I think that is a fair question to ask.

Many feel that there may be a lack of backing from the board and that these bids were never real and they were simply 'put out there' to keep us happy.

What I can tell you tonight is that each day for the past 7 days, Malky Mackay and Alan Whiteley have taken calls from Vincent Tan and TG in Malaysia and questions are being asked about the lack of signings.

The funds are in place and the Malaysians are asking everyday when are the players coming in, they are putting pressure on Malky and his team to bring in new signings.

So far since arriving at the club the Malaysians have invested £36million through the initial investment, paying off the creditors and propping the club up to the tune of £1.2million per month and some months that figure has risen to £1.5million.

With regards to the failed bids, £3million had been set aside for two of the players that Malky wanted to do the deals immediately. £2million was ready to be paid up front for Marvin Sordell and the remainder through instalments and the other £1million for Craig Noone and again more to follow as a way of add-ons.

The Sordell deal went pear shaped when his agent Sky Andrew went running to Bolton once he knew Watford had accepted City's offer.

The Noone deal was because of Brighton's chairman declaring no-one was being sold when he arrived in the UK from Australia on the final afternoon of deadline day.

The club mad genuine offers and the bank details had been received from both Brighton and Watford to accept the payment for both of these players.

Malky Mackay has a team of people that 'sound out' potential signings and it is Ian Moody (head of recruitment) who ultimately chooses a target and then the player is checked out and a dossier prepared before a bid is made.

So rest assured the Malaysians want the signings as much as we want them and Malky and his staff are working very hard to bring in new loans.


any news who there after? :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:07 pm

thats a lot of investment from the malaysians and their commitment should not be doubted.

theres a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we dont know but if the malaysians are asking where are the new players, and the fans the same, surely there is a problem with the recruitment side of things.

surely we had more than two targets?
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Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:07 pm

So feck you MG and co

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:07 pm

told u annis its picky Malky :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:08 pm

joshccfc wrote:
carlccfc wrote:Since the end of the January transfer window and the failed bids for players many have been asking the question "If we had bid nearly £5million for players in January why has there been very little activity with loans?"

Personally I think that is a fair question to ask.

Many feel that there may be a lack of backing from the board and that these bids were never real and they were simply 'put out there' to keep us happy.

What I can tell you tonight is that each day for the past 7 days, Malky Mackay and Alan Whiteley have taken calls from Vincent Tan and TG in Malaysia and questions are being asked about the lack of signings.

The funds are in place and the Malaysians are asking everyday when are the players coming in, they are putting pressure on Malky and his team to bring in new signings.

So far since arriving at the club the Malaysians have invested £36million through the initial investment, paying off the creditors and propping the club up to the tune of £1.2million per month and some months that figure has risen to £1.5million.

With regards to the failed bids, £3million had been set aside for two of the players that Malky wanted to do the deals immediately. £2million was ready to be paid up front for Marvin Sordell and the remainder through instalments and the other £1million for Craig Noone and again more to follow as a way of add-ons.

The Sordell deal went pear shaped when his agent Sky Andrew went running to Bolton once he knew Watford had accepted City's offer.

The Noone deal was because of Brighton's chairman declaring no-one was being sold when he arrived in the UK from Australia on the final afternoon of deadline day.

The club mad genuine offers and the bank details had been received from both Brighton and Watford to accept the payment for both of these players.

Malky Mackay has a team of people that 'sound out' potential signings and it is Ian Moody (head of recruitment) who ultimately chooses a target and then the player is checked out and a dossier prepared before a bid is made.

So rest assured the Malaysians want the signings as much as we want them and Malky and his staff are working very hard to bring in new loans.


any news who there after? :ayatollah:

Josh I am not putting a name on here as I may get accused of ruining a deal, or it is my fault if it don't happen or better still I made the names up :lol:

But the name of one of the players has appeared on this site recently and frequently :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:09 pm

carl do you think malkys being to picky over transfers.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:09 pm

Cheers for the update carl!

Well if the money is there then we have to be willing to pay whatever chunk of the loans the parent clubs want to get them sealed!

Are we close to any then Carl ? Any truth in lovenkrands ??

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:09 pm

Intresting read! :D

Is there any targets?

It really bugs me that Malky said we werent going to make no quick buys on the last day and there wont be no activity and some how we went all out offering millions? :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 pm

carlccfc wrote:
joshccfc wrote:
carlccfc wrote:Since the end of the January transfer window and the failed bids for players many have been asking the question "If we had bid nearly £5million for players in January why has there been very little activity with loans?"

Personally I think that is a fair question to ask.

Many feel that there may be a lack of backing from the board and that these bids were never real and they were simply 'put out there' to keep us happy.

What I can tell you tonight is that each day for the past 7 days, Malky Mackay and Alan Whiteley have taken calls from Vincent Tan and TG in Malaysia and questions are being asked about the lack of signings.

The funds are in place and the Malaysians are asking everyday when are the players coming in, they are putting pressure on Malky and his team to bring in new signings.

So far since arriving at the club the Malaysians have invested £36million through the initial investment, paying off the creditors and propping the club up to the tune of £1.2million per month and some months that figure has risen to £1.5million.

With regards to the failed bids, £3million had been set aside for two of the players that Malky wanted to do the deals immediately. £2million was ready to be paid up front for Marvin Sordell and the remainder through instalments and the other £1million for Craig Noone and again more to follow as a way of add-ons.

The Sordell deal went pear shaped when his agent Sky Andrew went running to Bolton once he knew Watford had accepted City's offer.

The Noone deal was because of Brighton's chairman declaring no-one was being sold when he arrived in the UK from Australia on the final afternoon of deadline day.

The club mad genuine offers and the bank details had been received from both Brighton and Watford to accept the payment for both of these players.

Malky Mackay has a team of people that 'sound out' potential signings and it is Ian Moody (head of recruitment) who ultimately chooses a target and then the player is checked out and a dossier prepared before a bid is made.

So rest assured the Malaysians want the signings as much as we want them and Malky and his staff are working very hard to bring in new loans.


any news who there after? :ayatollah:

Josh I am not putting a name on here as I may get accused of ruining a deal, or it is my fault if it don't happen or better still I made the names up :lol:

But the name of one of the players has appeared on this site recently and frequently :ayatollah:




theres a lot of good info in there. as for the players im just guessing here but im going with pardew and malkys decent relationship and would say lovenkrads

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 pm

LEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IS COMING!! :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 pm

Nothing new here. I knew all this. Thanks anyway.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 pm

I think TG and VT realise an opportunity has been missed in this January transfer window and there has been one almighty feck up. Had we bought wisely in January like most of our rivals we would have had a real chance of promotion. As our squad stands at the moment, not a cat in hells chance. Enjoy the cup lads, it will be a good day out with probably two of the best sets of fans in the country. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:12 pm

For the very first time I feel underwhelmed by one of Carls updates ----no real news here? :?

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:13 pm

carlccfc wrote:
joshccfc wrote:
carlccfc wrote:Since the end of the January transfer window and the failed bids for players many have been asking the question "If we had bid nearly £5million for players in January why has there been very little activity with loans?"

Personally I think that is a fair question to ask.

Many feel that there may be a lack of backing from the board and that these bids were never real and they were simply 'put out there' to keep us happy.

What I can tell you tonight is that each day for the past 7 days, Malky Mackay and Alan Whiteley have taken calls from Vincent Tan and TG in Malaysia and questions are being asked about the lack of signings.

The funds are in place and the Malaysians are asking everyday when are the players coming in, they are putting pressure on Malky and his team to bring in new signings.

So far since arriving at the club the Malaysians have invested £36million through the initial investment, paying off the creditors and propping the club up to the tune of £1.2million per month and some months that figure has risen to £1.5million.

With regards to the failed bids, £3million had been set aside for two of the players that Malky wanted to do the deals immediately. £2million was ready to be paid up front for Marvin Sordell and the remainder through instalments and the other £1million for Craig Noone and again more to follow as a way of add-ons.

The Sordell deal went pear shaped when his agent Sky Andrew went running to Bolton once he knew Watford had accepted City's offer.

The Noone deal was because of Brighton's chairman declaring no-one was being sold when he arrived in the UK from Australia on the final afternoon of deadline day.

The club mad genuine offers and the bank details had been received from both Brighton and Watford to accept the payment for both of these players.

Malky Mackay has a team of people that 'sound out' potential signings and it is Ian Moody (head of recruitment) who ultimately chooses a target and then the player is checked out and a dossier prepared before a bid is made.

So rest assured the Malaysians want the signings as much as we want them and Malky and his staff are working very hard to bring in new loans.


any news who there after? :ayatollah:

Josh I am not putting a name on here as I may get accused of ruining a deal, or it is my fault if it don't happen or better still I made the names up :lol:

But the name of one of the players has appeared on this site recently and frequently :ayatollah:


LEOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Other player's Apostolos Velios.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:13 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Bigbluebird wrote:What time will the update be Carl?

What update ????


it was all a bit recycled information tonight carlos…………disappointed. :cry:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:13 pm

Malki has said he wants guys who are better than our first 11.

Well those guys are not out there and available.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:14 pm

harold pinta wrote:Nothing new here. I knew all this. Thanks anyway.

You knew that the Malaysians were pressurising Malky and his staff to spend their money! :? :shock:

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:14 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:So feck you MG and co


Wheres the signings then still feck all,MM must be the only manger who can not spend money then if its SUPPOSED to be there :lol:
Nothing in this update we did not already know as the names mentioned we all knew about :ayatollah: I await some BREAKING news or hope for some in the near future :lol:
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Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:15 pm

saw a youngster on loan from WBA score 2 for Brentford on sky this week - he looks decent, maybe our scouting network has weaknesses. another we should have gone for is andros townsend now scoring at leeds

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:16 pm

Maybe a lack of experience is playing a part in this from mAlky. Has he ever had money to play with before?

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:17 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
harold pinta wrote:Nothing new here. I knew all this. Thanks anyway.

You knew that the Malaysians were pressurising Malky and his staff to spend their money! :? :shock:


This is merely supposition.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:17 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
harold pinta wrote:Nothing new here. I knew all this. Thanks anyway.

You knew that the Malaysians were pressurising Malky and his staff to spend their money! :? :shock:

Obviously :roll:

And there was me thinking that many were claiming it was bullshit bidding and the Malaysians were not backing Malky. I wish someone else in the know had posted this little bit of info as it would have saved me the trouble.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:18 pm

No offence, but that is all common knowledge.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:18 pm

i must be blinkered then as i didnt know the malaysians were putting pressure on for transfers, or who was responsible for overseeing recruitment.

i need to pay attention more..

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:19 pm

carlccfc wrote:Since the end of the January transfer window and the failed bids for players many have been asking the question "If we had bid nearly £5million for players in January why has there been very little activity with loans?"

Personally I think that is a fair question to ask.

Many feel that there may be a lack of backing from the board and that these bids were never real and they were simply 'put out there' to keep us happy.

What I can tell you tonight is that each day for the past 7 days, Malky Mackay and Alan Whiteley have taken calls from Vincent Tan and TG in Malaysia and questions are being asked about the lack of signings.

The funds are in place and the Malaysians are asking everyday when are the players coming in, they are putting pressure on Malky and his team to bring in new signings.

So far since arriving at the club the Malaysians have invested £36million through the initial investment, paying off the creditors and propping the club up to the tune of £1.2million per month and some months that figure has risen to £1.5million.

With regards to the failed bids, £3million had been set aside for two of the players that Malky wanted to do the deals immediately. £2million was ready to be paid up front for Marvin Sordell and the remainder through instalments and the other £1million for Craig Noone and again more to follow as a way of add-ons.

The Sordell deal went pear shaped when his agent Sky Andrew went running to Bolton once he knew Watford had accepted City's offer.

The Noone deal was because of Brighton's chairman declaring no-one was being sold when he arrived in the UK from Australia on the final afternoon of deadline day.

The club made genuine offers and the bank details had been received from both Brighton and Watford to accept the payment for both of these players.

Malky Mackay has a team of people that 'sound out' potential signings and it is Ian Moody (head of recruitment) who ultimately chooses a target and then the player is checked out and a dossier prepared before a bid is made.

So rest assured the Malaysians want the signings as much as we want them and Malky and his staff are working very hard to bring in new loans.


thanks carl, like said before if we made bids immediately we woul have known who was comeing and who wasnt, giving us time to look at some one else if there was someone else? it does seem from what you saying we missed the boat by waiting until last minute with offers! so are we actually going to sign anyone or is it another we are waiting for malkies type of player again?? when what we need is another striker as long as he is good enough that should be sufficiant in my oppinion.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:20 pm

Baker wrote:No offence, but that is all common knowledge.

Really, why didn't you say that the Malaysians have been in contact with AW and MM each and every day for the past 7, wanting to know why there has been no more signings?

Where did you learn about it?

I got it from a director.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:20 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:i must be blinkered then as i didnt know the malaysians were putting pressure on for transfers, or who was responsible for overseeing recruitment.

i need to pay attention more..


Yes, you do. Malky has done several interviews outlining his recruitment policy.

Re: "WHERE ARE THE LOAN PLAYERS ?"

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:21 pm

Come may we will have "WE FELL SHORT OF THE PLAYOFFS DUE TO ARE SQUAD SIZE" yet we have had "WE NEED MORE PLAYERS IF WE ARE TO STAY UP THE TOP" for 7months all from MM you couldnt make this shit up.Now we got supposed owners saying spend spend spend,madness :lol: :ayatollah: