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Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:40 am

Just talking to some QPR boy's down the gym, and they reckon that they should give Cardiff a million pound to have bothroyd back.
I said I don't think he would get in our team under Malky, they said he has been real shite and havnt a hope in hell to play for England. :lol:

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:57 am

He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:22 pm

He's a gutless chav with a super inflated ego. The play off final was the biggest game in our history, our whole game was built up around him, he refused a injection in his knee, that lots of people have, just to earn a few hundred quid in their weekly jobs. FFS :twisted:

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:32 pm

only 1 mil to take him back fuc. off :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: we would want more than that :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:59 pm

Jay Bothroyd was one of the most talented players I have seen pull on a City shirt, Last season he was brilliant for 1st half of the season & then the attitude after his one & only cap for England was shocking.

He would not fit into this team, give me Kenny Miller every day of the week, He works his socks of up front , If Bothroyd had the same desire then he would never had been let go by Arsenal.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:31 pm

Merlin wrote:He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.



FACT!!!!!

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:38 pm

While I felt that Dave Jones' time was up and that he made a number of mistakes, e.g. his treatment of Ramsey, Ledley and Matthews, I believe that DJ deserves a gold star for the way he managed Bothroyd. His 45 goals in 133 appearances is way better than anything he achieved anywhere else.

That doesn't mean he was perfect for DJ, just that DJ got more out of him than any other manager.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:49 pm

Completely agree with Fairwater Youth.

On talent alone Bothroyd was one of the best players that I have seen at the City in all the years that I have been watching them. Based solely on the criteria of technical skill he is good enough for a top 8 Premier League team, no problem. However, pure talent is not enough. You must have courage, application, dedication and desire as well if you want to really fulfill your potential. That's where Mr Bothroyd lets himself down - the Play Off Final & the Middlesborough game being the prime examples of his failings.

As Merlin & Polo mention, Jay was good for us on the whole. But the sad thing is that he could have been sensational throughout. Six foot three inch centre forwards should not be showboating in midfield before crossing for the vertically challenged Chops & Bellamy. But he could never resist that temptation!

Don't want him back.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:55 pm

Not saying I want him back either - just stated what polo highlighted ;)

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:12 pm

How can you blame him for being injured in the play off final? :?

He wasnt fit leading up to it, he gave it a go because of how important he was to the team, and it didnt work out. Unlucky, but the way people are making out is he went off cos he couldnt be bothered.

Absolute codswallop. I was outside the pub that day in Marylbone when, and this moment will never leave me, the City squad walked passed. Of all the players Jay was the one most up for it , clapping the fans, giving, it fists. This notion he wasnt bothered is absolute bollocks. He was desperate for City to win that day.

Just cos hes laid back, and didnt show the tears Chops showed, what i seen in that few minutes told me he wanted it badly.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:32 pm

Griff wrote: His 45 goals in 133 appearances is way better than anything he achieved anywhere else.



WOW!

Impressive stats. Set up countless others with his terrific link play as well.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:39 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:He's a gutless chav with a super inflated ego. The play off final was the biggest game in our history, our whole game was built up around him, he refused a injection in his knee, that lots of people have, just to earn a few hundred quid in their weekly jobs. FFS :twisted:

Polo, I am not blaming him for being injured, but for him not to take a jab that would have got him through the game, I thought was unforgivable. I get your point that he looked liked he really wanted it. But when the going gets tough, he either used to go down easy or look at the bench to be taken off. We will have to differ on this, maybe I am a bit blinkered because I just don't like him.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:41 pm

some of you are complete idiots, he was one of the most talented players to put on a city shirt. it wasnt his fault he got injured in a play off final we wouldnt of even been in if it wasnt for him, lets face it, when he was out injured that season we were dogshit, id have him back in a heartbeat

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:48 pm

Two things you need to become a star player and that is talent and effort.

Bothroyd has talent but only on a half scale compared to the likes of George Best, Alan Shearer or in todays climate Craig Bellamy. However when it came to effort Bothroyd severly let himself down. Ask Peter Whittingham about that.

As far as I am concerned when we needed our top guys to perform they let us down. Bothroyd is not on his own here lets get that right, however he was one of them.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:49 pm

kennytheking wrote:some of you are complete idiots, he was one of the most talented players to put on a city shirt. it wasnt his fault he got injured in a play off final we wouldnt of even been in if it wasnt for him, lets face it, when he was out injured that season we were dogshit, id have him back in a heartbeat



some of you are complete idiots


FACT!!!

he was one of the most talented players to put on a city shirt


FACT FACT!!!

it wasnt his fault he got injured in a play off final


FACT FACT FACT!!!

we wouldnt of even been in if it wasnt for him


FACT FACT FACT FACT !!!

when he was out injured that season we were dogshit


FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT!!!

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:50 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:He's a gutless chav with a super inflated ego. The play off final was the biggest game in our history, our whole game was built up around him, he refused a injection in his knee, that lots of people have, just to earn a few hundred quid in their weekly jobs. FFS :twisted:

Polo, I am not blaming him for being injured, but for him not to take a jab that would have got him through the game, I thought was unforgivable. I get your point that he looked liked he really wanted it. But when the going gets tough, he either used to go down easy or look at the bench to be taken off. We will have to differ on this, maybe I am a bit blinkered because I just don't like him.


An injection does not guarantee a painless experience and full fitness for 90 mins! It only helps, and on this occasion he chose not to take risk of making his problem worse.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:52 pm

i argree with polo on this he was one off the best center forwards we have had at the club and i would have him back tomorrow

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:54 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:He's a gutless chav with a super inflated ego. The play off final was the biggest game in our history, our whole game was built up around him, he refused a injection in his knee, that lots of people have, just to earn a few hundred quid in their weekly jobs. FFS :twisted:

Polo, I am not blaming him for being injured, but for him not to take a jab that would have got him through the game, I thought was unforgivable. I get your point that he looked liked he really wanted it. But when the going gets tough, he either used to go down easy or look at the bench to be taken off. We will have to differ on this, maybe I am a bit blinkered because I just don't like him.


Agree to disagree.

Just using logic, i think if it was as sample a problem to fix with an injection I am sure he would have taken it.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:19 pm

I'd take him back in a heartbeat!!!

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:49 pm

Super Kev MacN played for periods of time throughout that season with a more serious tear than Jay thanks to regular injections.

It was one massive game, one injection & Jay refused. I was sitting near the tunnel that game & DJ didn't acknowledge Jay as he came off the pitch & walked past. Not the usual reaction from a manager who thinks a player has given his all for the team, even for Mr Jones.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:19 pm

BorderBlue wrote:Super Kev MacN played for periods of time throughout that season with a more serious tear than Jay thanks to regular injections.

It was one massive game, one injection & Jay refused. I was sitting near the tunnel that game & DJ didn't acknowledge Jay as he came off the pitch & walked past. Not the usual reaction from a manager who thinks a player has given his all for the team, even for Mr Jones.


And look at how many times McNaughton limps off injured, lasts a half, or is out injured completely. McNaughton was & is more important to the team considering the position he plays.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:22 pm

I would have him back ins heart beat

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:51 pm

Merlin wrote:He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.

For 3/4s of his time Jay was different class. Probably the most skillful player i have seen in 30+ years of following CCFC. Just a shame he spent the 2nd half of last season on his arse.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:57 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Merlin wrote:He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.

For 3/4s of his time Jay was different class. Probably the most skillful player i have seen in 30+ years of following CCFC. Just a shame he spent the 2nd half of last season on his arse.


I do think the Jay on his arse thing is SEVERELY over-hyped. He was told by Jones to go down often if he felt touches especially in the last third of the pitch! Where he would help whitts out for free kicks and penalties - Whitts has told us this himself! He was instrumental in Whitts big 25 odd goal on that one special season.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:02 pm

Merlin wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Merlin wrote:He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.

For 3/4s of his time Jay was different class. Probably the most skillful player i have seen in 30+ years of following CCFC. Just a shame he spent the 2nd half of last season on his arse.


I do think the Jay on his arse thing is SEVERELY over-hyped. He was told by Jones to go down often if he felt touches especially in the last third of the pitch! Where he would help whitts out for free kicks and penalties - Whitts has told us this himself! He was instrumental in Whitts big 25 odd goal on that one special season.

You're probably right Craig. However Jays attitude after his England call up was awful. A real shame as he could be unplayable on his day.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:05 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Merlin wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Merlin wrote:He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.

For 3/4s of his time Jay was different class. Probably the most skillful player i have seen in 30+ years of following CCFC. Just a shame he spent the 2nd half of last season on his arse.


I do think the Jay on his arse thing is SEVERELY over-hyped. He was told by Jones to go down often if he felt touches especially in the last third of the pitch! Where he would help whitts out for free kicks and penalties - Whitts has told us this himself! He was instrumental in Whitts big 25 odd goal on that one special season.

You're probably right Craig. However Jays attitude after his England call up was awful. A real shame as he could be unplayable on his day.


That I will agree with! Personally - I don't think he should have gotten called up in all honesty - there was far better in the premiership.

I'm not sure how I would accept him if he were to ever wear our shirt again, but one things for certain - If it was Malky that brought him back, we can only support any decisions he makes, and hope it doesn't backfire. I think Bothroyd is man enough to know the mistakes he's made, and Mature enough to correct them if the situation were ever to reoccur!

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:07 pm

Merlin wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Merlin wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Merlin wrote:He was a good striker at our club regardless of his sissy-like reputation, we got 3 good years out of him.

For 3/4s of his time Jay was different class. Probably the most skillful player i have seen in 30+ years of following CCFC. Just a shame he spent the 2nd half of last season on his arse.


I do think the Jay on his arse thing is SEVERELY over-hyped. He was told by Jones to go down often if he felt touches especially in the last third of the pitch! Where he would help whitts out for free kicks and penalties - Whitts has told us this himself! He was instrumental in Whitts big 25 odd goal on that one special season.

You're probably right Craig. However Jays attitude after his England call up was awful. A real shame as he could be unplayable on his day.


That I will agree with! Personally - I don't think he should have gotten called up in all honesty - there was far better in the premiership.

I'm not sure how I would accept him if he were to ever wear our shirt again, but one things for certain - If it was Malky that brought him back, we can only support any decisions he makes, and hope it doesn't backfire. I think Bothroyd is man enough to know the mistakes he's made, and Mature enough to correct them if the situation were ever to reoccur!

If he comes back i will back him 100% as all fans should. Malky might be able to get 100% every game every week.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:07 pm

He had far more good games than bad for us, unfortunately his head was turned and that signalled the end.
Anybody with Bothroyd's ability and a better attitude would cost us a fortune!

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:20 pm

polo wrote:
Griff wrote: His 45 goals in 133 appearances is way better than anything he achieved anywhere else.



WOW!

Impressive stats. Set up countless others with his terrific link play as well.


It's not a bad stat this, but, how many of these goals did he score in the first half of his last season with us? For me he went missing too many times in the other 2 and a half seasons. Would be interesting to see his assists tally for the 3 years.

Re: Bothroyd

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:20 pm

Lots of fair comments, I was there when Jay scored that belter against QPR at Cardiff, and I was also there when the QPR fans were chanting Engerland your having a laugh at loftus rd (cracked me up :D )......but for me he always seen us has a stepping stone, and his Ego made him believe his own bullshit......he could have signed a new contract (like Whitts).....no f@cling loyalty......warnock only signed him because he was a free agent.....and no one else came in for him....and now he seems to be getting his Just Deserts.