Refereeing

I've never questions a referee until this season. I consider them human where they make mistakes and I will still consider them that. However 3 of the 4 games we have lost have been down to questionable referreeing. No need to remind anyone what happened at Hull with that awarded penalty that was reversed. At Peterborough the decision that cost us a draw was not so obvious but closer scrutiny it was a clear foul on Whitts. Then today, this was right in front of me, how we were not offered a penalty is beyond me.

As I said I don't want to start a blame culture against referees but something has to be done else our game could quite easily lose its appeal.

you are right pal there should of been 3 penalties today 2 to us and one to boro they all happenend wrong time of the game.
refs got know balls anymore he did not give first one on mcnaughton cause early on, then theres he did not give cause he felt guilty about ours, and the last one on super kev again he shit out cause late on in game

standard of refs is shit

we need to sign at least three players

Referees are nothing but castrated fascists and that's the good ones.

Actually I hate linesmen (sorry assistant referees) more because they really are gutless as they only make descisions on offside (and usually get that wrong) but seem obvilious to the actual bodily harm assaults our players endure game after game which happens right under their noses.

Is it right that refs are professional and assistants are not?

He was terrible today, although I thought boros pen was previously offside

I was behind the lino when Kev was taken out by the keeper, the only thing the keeper kicked was Kev.
If the ref was the wrong side to give it then the lino had a clear view but bottled it, he did not even flag for the corner.
How was the ref able to see the touch the keeper did not make? bootled it and thought the easy thing to do was give a corner.

Ref can smfd imo

I was behind the lino when Kev was taken out by the keeper, the only thing the keeper kicked was Kev.
If the ref was the wrong side to give it then the lino had a clear view but bottled it, he did not even flag for the corner.
How was the ref able to see the touch the keeper did not make? bootled it and thought the easy thing to do was give a corner.

I was to your right in the corner. I saw the linesman shake his head and though you must be joking if you are implying no.

Then to hear that what he meant by shaking his head is that he did not know is beyond me. You don't have to be a football fan to see that was a foul. What sort of officials do we have watching over our games.

I've never questions a referee until this season. I consider them human where they make mistakes and I will still consider them that. However 3 of the 4 games we have lost have been down to questionable referreeing. No need to remind anyone what happened at Hull with that awarded penalty that was reversed. At Peterborough the decision that cost us a draw was not so obvious but closer scrutiny it was a clear foul on Whitts. Then today, this was right in front of me, how we were not offered a penalty is beyond me.

As I said I don't want to start a blame culture against referees but something has to be done else our game could quite easily lose its appeal.

Ian, I never blame refs usually for defeats, but the decisions today were costly and diobolical .

It sad that every time i go to a game now i worry more about the referee than the opposition

I've never questions a referee until this season. I consider them human where they make mistakes and I will still consider them that. However 3 of the 4 games we have lost have been down to questionable referreeing. No need to remind anyone what happened at Hull with that awarded penalty that was reversed. At Peterborough the decision that cost us a draw was not so obvious but closer scrutiny it was a clear foul on Whitts. Then today, this was right in front of me, how we were not offered a penalty is beyond me.

As I said I don't want to start a blame culture against referees but something has to be done else our game could quite easily lose its appeal.

Ian, I never blame refs usually for defeats, but the decisions today were costly and diobolical .

Same here Annis. They are totally spoiling the sport.

If you're good enough over the entire season, you get promoted no matter what the referees do.

There is no FA conspiracy to keep cardiff City F.C out of the premier league.

It's not nice losing unbeaten run at home to one of your rivals.

DON'T LET IT SPOIL YOUR CHRISTMAS!

If you're good enough over the entire season, you get promoted no matter what the referees do.

There is no FA conspiracy to keep cardiff City F.C out of the premier league.

It's not nice losing unbeaten run at home to one of your rivals.

DON'T LET IT SPOIL YOUR CHRISTMAS!

Don't worry, I won@t be inviting this ref around for Christmas mince pies.

We could have won the game despite the ref, showed charator today

We could have won the game despite the ref, showed charator today

And that Luke is what makes it more frustrating. We lost the game because of the ref.

The Kev one in the first half i didnt jump around shouting to be honest! I honestly thought he ws going to give it and no doubt about it but then seen he didnt do nothing was unreal, i was looking from the back of Canton and there was no contact on the ball from the keeper surely!

The Kev one in the first half i didnt jump around shouting to be honest! I honestly thought he ws going to give it and no doubt about it but then seen he didnt do nothing was unreal, i was looking from the back of Canton and there was no contact on the ball from the keeper surely!

Dando,

If it was not a penalty, that is no foul, then it was a goalkick as the keeper did not get a touch. That was more obviuos than the foul.

When he gave a corner I thought he thought the keeper got to the ball before Kevin, hence awarding a corner. I thought thats linesman must be blind.

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Not really.

Within a minute Boro went on to score the first goal.

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Not really.

Within a minute Boro went on to score the first goal.

What's to say you wouldn't have missed the pen and they would have gone up the other end and scored?

Fact is both were pens but neither were given and it was certainly not a red card.

Boro took their goals well today...But the ref was shocking

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Not really.

Within a minute Boro went on to score the first goal.

What's to say you wouldn't have missed the pen and they would have gone up the other end and scored?

Fact is both were pens but neither were given and it was certainly not a red card.

And whats the chance of missing a penalty and come to that then them going on to score?

The fact was the referee was shocking and spoilt the game at our expense.

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Not really.

Within a minute Boro went on to score the first goal.

What's to say you wouldn't have missed the pen and they would have gone up the other end and scored?

Fact is both were pens but neither were given and it was certainly not a red card.

And whats the chance of missing a penalty and come to that then them going on to score?

The fact was the referee was shocking and spoilt the game at our expense.

And what's to say that if they had been given their pen and scored that they wouldn't have gained greater confidence and gone on to get even more?

You agree though that it was never a red card?

Boro took their goals well today...But the ref was shocking

Tony, totally agree, Boro really went for it as well.

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Not really.

Within a minute Boro went on to score the first goal.

What's to say you wouldn't have missed the pen and they would have gone up the other end and scored?

Fact is both were pens but neither were given and it was certainly not a red card.

And whats the chance of missing a penalty and come to that then them going on to score?

The fact was the referee was shocking and spoilt the game at our expense.

And what's to say that if they had been given their pen and scored that they wouldn't have gained greater confidence and gone on to get even more?

You agree though that it was never a red card?

Because your statements are fantasy.

Going on your if we were given that penalty the chances are we would have scored, that would have meant our confidence would have rocketed and they would have not scored their first goal.

There "pen" was very close or offside.

We could have had two pens.

The first kev one was stone wall, no matter what fantasy is made up after

Having just watched the highlights, the one on MacNaughton was a pen but was certainly not a red card as the ball was running out of play so not a goalscoring opportunity.

But also the one at the other end for Middlesbrough should also have been a penalty.

Equalled itself out.

Not really.

Within a minute Boro went on to score the first goal.

What's to say you wouldn't have missed the pen and they would have gone up the other end and scored?

Fact is both were pens but neither were given and it was certainly not a red card.

And whats the chance of missing a penalty and come to that then them going on to score?

The fact was the referee was shocking and spoilt the game at our expense.

And what's to say that if they had been given their pen and scored that they wouldn't have gained greater confidence and gone on to get even more?

You agree though that it was never a red card?

Because your statements are fantasy.

Going on your if we were given that penalty the chances are we would have scored, that would have meant our confidence would have rocketed and they would have not scored their first goal.

Or maybe you would have become complacent and they would have taken advantage. We'll never know.

All we do know is that both sides should have had a penalty. The rest is opinion and guesswork.

Uh I think us being awarded the first penalty, scoring from it then going on from there. Basically taking an early lead well I would say a betting man would have put his money on us would you not agree?

Uh I think us being awarded the first penalty, scoring from it then going on from there. Basically taking an early lead well I would say a betting man would have put his money on us would you not agree?

Is it that simple then? Boro took an early lead and got pegged back before going on to beat you.

You seem to be ignoring Boro's pen.

Uh I think us being awarded the first penalty, scoring from it then going on from there. Basically taking an early lead well I would say a betting man would have put his money on us would you not agree?

Is it that simple then? Boro took an early lead and got pegged back before going on to beat you.

You seem to be ignoring Boro's pen.

Which Looked offside before
And you then ignore kevs second pen

Uh I think us being awarded the first penalty, scoring from it then going on from there. Basically taking an early lead well I would say a betting man would have put his money on us would you not agree?

Is it that simple then? Boro took an early lead and got pegged back before going on to beat you.

You seem to be ignoring Boro's pen.

Which Looked offside before
And you then ignore kevs second pen

You took my main ammo there Luke. I was waiting to use that.

What you are ignoring NJ or should I say trying to be annoying with, is the fact the first bad decision is the one that really shapes a game. That decision was a double whammy to us you cannot deny that. We could have been 1-0 instead found ourselves 1-0 down. Simple really.