CHOPRA ADMITS GAMBLING ADDICTION AT LAST YEAR WITH CARDIFF

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -29684825/

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2011/10/29/michael-chopra-admits-final-cardiff-city-year-plagued-by-gambling-addiction-91466-29684825/

Gambling is only a problem if you lose

Not a gamblin man myself mate

bless him

Where were the club helping him on this, I know a lot of people will blame him but it's a serious addiction and the club knew he had it. There should be support for players like this, but Dave Jones or whoever should take the brunt of this did mess up.

Where were the club helping him on this, I know a lot of people will blame him but it's a serious addiction and the club knew he had it. There should be support for players like this, but Dave Jones or whoever should take the brunt of this did mess up.

Sorry mate, but we've no idea whether the club were helping Chopra or not during his time at Cardiff City, although I seem to remember he went into this same clinic a couple of years ago!

He is a grown man as well and how the club are supposed to keep tabs on somebody who was in his own home / room, whilst internet gambling during the early hours of the morning, I don't know!

Speaking from experience here, as I lost a brother through alcoholism and the one thing that all addicts are very good at, is lying and manipulating, to make sure they get their daily fix!

As the saying goes, you can only take a horse to water, you can't make him drink!

WHY PUT THE TITLE IN CAPS. HE IS NOT A CARDIFF PLAYER ANY MORE.

Addiction is for life though, and if Chopra came out and said "Cardiff/Ipswich have done X to support me but I got around it by doing Y or I ignored them" then fair enough but from what i've seen he hasn't.

The club knew he has this problem and if they are really invested in a player enforcing routine with a counsellor from the clinic he went too and going to GA meetings ( http://www.gamblersanonymous.org.uk/gma ... rdiff.html ) is precisely the sort of thing that should be in place. If not dropped from the team, fined a weeks wages etc.

Addiction is for life though, and if Chopra came out and said "Cardiff/Ipswich have done X to support me but I got around it by doing Y or I ignored them" then fair enough but from what i've seen he hasn't.

Just because he hasn't praised Cardiff or Ipswich, doesn't mean that he hasn't been supported though and I forgot to mention in my previous post, the biggest problem the club would have had with keeping tabs on Chopra, was that he was a single person, who had split up with his wife and all his family were a long way from Cardiff, back in Tyneside, to be able to support him as well!

The club knew he has this problem and if they are really invested in a player enforcing routine with a counsellor from the clinic he went too and going to GA meetings ( http://www.gamblersanonymous.org.uk/gma ... rdiff.html ) is precisely the sort of thing that should be in place. If not dropped from the team, fined a weeks wages etc.

To repeat myself mate, we have no idea whether Cardiff or Ipswich, has or had anything in place!

I don't think fining Chopra would have been the best plan either, as he'd have probably just gone out and gambled more money, to try and win his fine back!

He's over 18, his fault and his alone. An addict will only stop if HE wants to, the club has nothing to do with it

WHY PUT THE TITLE IN CAPS. HE IS NOT A CARDIFF PLAYER ANY MORE.

Doesn't matter, the story is about while he was a cardiff player, so its goin in caps, not that it matters anyway

Last edited by Daniel_PT_blues on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:22 am, edited 1 time in total.

So glad we are got rid of him.

When we required our big guns to step up and produce they failed big time. These footballers are still young lads and when they go down the route like Chopra they need quideance. It is a combination of club and player to work it all out so the club gets the best out of the player. It seems to me there is a failing on both parts here.

You cannot turn a player into a robot and tell him exactly what to do. There comes a time when he has a responsibility to himself. However there comes a time when the club has to realise it has done enough to help the player then take drastic action that will most likely be unpopular with everyone. Time will tell if it was the right move and that is what management is all about. If it is the right move the management take the credit, if it is not then the buck stops with them.

Of course as fans we only hear certain stories and if they are true or not is really down to that fans judgement. I look at what goes on the pitch and take my judgement from there. At the end of last season I saw premiership experienced players being made look second rate by average championship players. I'm beginning to think it was the culture of the club that allowed this to happen now. The binge drinking before the Boro game and now the Chopra addiction to gambling is proof of this. Chopra has actually admitted this problem cause an adverse effect on his performanace on the pitch. I'm starting to think now what eles was wrong and it is becoming clear why DJ got the sack. The fact that he failed to get promotion is now just a small part of his departure. I feel now there is a lot more to it and usally over time the truth comes out.

Was wondering how long before DJ got blamed

CHOPRA IS A GROWN MAN IT IS HIS FAULT AND HIS ALONE!

Was wondering how long before DJ got blamed

CHOPRA IS A GROWN MAN IT IS HIS FAULT AND HIS ALONE!

Chopra was part of the squad. The squad is the responsibility of the management. The weak link, plenty of those in our case, needs to be sorted by guess who?

Whne you reply there is no need to shout.

Some of you people are unbelieveable, it is chopras decision to turn on his pc at 2am and gamble. What do you expect the club to do, have someone in his room?? He has to take FULL responsibility and i for one am glad he has gone. The way he disrespected us last season was a disgrace.

Some of you people are unbelieveable, it is chopras decision to turn on his pc at 2am and gamble. What do you expect the club to do, have someone in his room?? He has to take FULL responsibility and i for one am glad he has gone. The way he disrespected us last season was a disgrace.

Not arquing with you there Craig.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but now I'm beginning to think we should have concentrated on getting Ross back in shape instead of Chopra.

Was wondering how long before DJ got blamed

CHOPRA IS A GROWN MAN IT IS HIS FAULT AND HIS ALONE!

Laughable isnt it. People must have read a different article to me.

He admits its his fault and his problem alone. he also says as i said the other day gamblers are the best liars around.

Hes 26 not 6 hes responsible for his own actions.

Perhaps i should go into work tomorrow and ask my boss for 15k because he didnt recognise and help my addiction.

And we wonder why this country is fucked? Only have to read some of the nanny state posts on this thread to see why.

Some of you people are unbelieveable, it is chopras decision to turn on his pc at 2am and gamble. What do you expect the club to do, have someone in his room?? He has to take FULL responsibility and i for one am glad he has gone. The way he disrespected us last season was a disgrace.

Not arquing with you there Craig.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but now I'm beginning to think we should have concentrated on getting Ross back in shape instead of Chopra.

I always like ross, something wasnt right anymore when he was down here. His drinking was out of control, as was his range rover. I think he needed a fresh start, just a shame it wasnt under Malky

Some of you people are unbelieveable, it is chopras decision to turn on his pc at 2am and gamble. What do you expect the club to do, have someone in his room?? He has to take FULL responsibility and i for one am glad he has gone. The way he disrespected us last season was a disgrace.

Not arquing with you there Craig.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but now I'm beginning to think we should have concentrated on getting Ross back in shape instead of Chopra.

I always like ross, something wasnt right anymore when he was down here. His drinking was out of control, as was his range rover. I think he needed a fresh start, just a shame it wasnt under Malky

Also took him over a year after he left to sort himself out.

Same as chops is trying to do now.

Good luck chops.

Some of you people are unbelieveable, it is chopras decision to turn on his pc at 2am and gamble. What do you expect the club to do, have someone in his room?? He has to take FULL responsibility and i for one am glad he has gone. The way he disrespected us last season was a disgrace.

Not arquing with you there Craig.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but now I'm beginning to think we should have concentrated on getting Ross back in shape instead of Chopra.

I always like ross, something wasnt right anymore when he was down here. His drinking was out of control, as was his range rover. I think he needed a fresh start, just a shame it wasnt under Malky

.

Think it was the last game before Ross left but I gave way to him in the car park. His wife was driving the Range Rover. Nothing looked out of control then

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2011/10/29/michael-chopra-admits-final-cardiff-city-year-plagued-by-gambling-addiction-91466-29684825/

Gambling is only a problem if you lose

Not the case mr rythmn.....a gambler is never satisfied no matter how much he/she wins. And as we all know if you stick your head through any bookies door, you will usually see 2 paying in windows and 1 paying out and the bird on the paying out bored shitless filing her nails.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2011/10/29/michael-chopra-admits-final-cardiff-city-year-plagued-by-gambling-addiction-91466-29684825/

Gambling is only a problem if you lose

Not the case mr rythmn.....a gambler is never satisfied no matter how much he/she wins. And as we all know if you stick your head through any bookies door, you will usually see 2 paying in windows and 1 paying out and the bird on the paying out bored shitless filing her nails.

Yeah most likely thinking here is that sucker Polo again.

I agree that the club can do nothing about a player who wants to get up in the middle of the night and bet on South American football matches that is entirely down to the player.

What I have found interesting here is that Paul Jewell went public about the reasons he had dropped Chopra for the Ipswich match at home to Palace. He had noticed that Chopra was looking tired during training and in fact at times he was so tired he was unable to train and was using matches as the only means of staying fit. Jewell was aware of his addition before he signed him and somehow the club found out he was out all hours gambling, not at home on the internet, and had confronted Chopra about it and forced him into this rehab clinic.

When he scored 2 goals against Brighton after approx 4 weeks of treatment at the clinic followed by a goal against us Jewell had hoped Chops had turned a corner. Unfortunately despite the treatment he went on all hours gambling binges again so Jewell dropped him and sent him back to the clinic with a promise he would play against Millwall which he did.

I suppose the point is when DJ signed him Chopra lived with him for a while but despite that support he eventually threw it back into DJ face and the same is happening with Jewell. Chops can't be far from the last chance saloon and this article never would have been written if Jewell hadn't gone public and told the world Chopra has a gambling addition which was affecting his training, fitness and readiness for playing and that was the reason he was dropped.

DJ supported him and Jewell is doing the same but if you ask me Chopra will go back to his now old ways quickly, he is a typical addict and will soon be playing at lower league clubs because they will be the only ones willing to take a risk on him.

It's sad because he has a talent but he has decided to waste it no one else.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2011/10/29/michael-chopra-admits-final-cardiff-city-year-plagued-by-gambling-addiction-91466-29684825/

Gambling is only a problem if you lose

Not the case mr rythmn.....a gambler is never satisfied no matter how much he/she wins. And as we all know if you stick your head through any bookies door, you will usually see 2 paying in windows and 1 paying out and the bird on the paying out bored shitless filing her nails.

Yeah most likely thinking id like to suck off polo again.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2011/10/29/michael-chopra-admits-final-cardiff-city-year-plagued-by-gambling-addiction-91466-29684825/

Gambling is only a problem if you lose

Not the case mr rythmn.....a gambler is never satisfied no matter how much he/she wins. And as we all know if you stick your head through any bookies door, you will usually see 2 paying in windows and 1 paying out and the bird on the paying out bored shitless filing her nails.

Yeah most likely thinking id like to suck off polo again.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city/cardiff-city-fc/2011/10/29/michael-chopra-admits-final-cardiff-city-year-plagued-by-gambling-addiction-91466-29684825/

So everything Carl,Myself, Bakedalasksa said was never lies like another mb said

Was wondering how long before DJ got blamed

CHOPRA IS A GROWN MAN IT IS HIS FAULT AND HIS ALONE!

You clearly have no understanding of addiction. Thankfully not everyone in the world is as ignorant as you.

Was wondering how long before DJ got blamed

CHOPRA IS A GROWN MAN IT IS HIS FAULT AND HIS ALONE!

You clearly have no understanding of addiction. Thankfully not everyone in the world is as ignorant as you.

Myself and polo discussed this the other day, im in a perfect position to understand addiction, being an ex addict myself although mine was drugs and not gambling, so do not think me as ignorant when i have more experience with addiction in my little toe than you will ever have.

Ok fair enough I apologise, but I have my own experiences too but I still stand by what I said that the club, or any employer can help and assist. Especially a football club (or sports club) which is ideally placed.

Ok fair enough I apologise, but I have my own experiences too but I still stand by what I said that the club, or any employer can help and assist. Especially a football club (or sports club) which is ideally placed.

Apology accepted. Problem is, the club can offer as much help as they can, unless chopra wanted the help its pointless, thats when its down to the individual, they have to want the help and take the first steps themselves.