RUPERT MURDOCH V QPR

Interestingly all the publications claiming this so called points deduction are all owned by none other than Rupert Murdoch;

Sky Sports News

The Sun

Talk Sport

Have a read of this dated YESTERDAY & then lo & behold looks what hit the press today.

Don't believe all you read folks.

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Rupert Murdoch has a "close to zero" chance of buying Formula One and talk of a takeover is being driven by the media and advisers seeking to make money, the sport's supremo, Bernie Ecclestone, has said.
Reports this month said that Murdoch's News Corp was in the early stages of talks to form a consortium to acquire control of Formula One motor racing. Formula One is owned by the private equity firm CVC and managed by Ecclestone. News Corp held preliminary talks with at least one big car manufacturer, thought to be Ferrari, and with the Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim, who already has links to the sport, the person said.
"It's media driven," Ecclestone told Reuters in a telephone interview. "It looks very much like someone who is trying to see if they can make [money].
"All of these people that get involved with these things, they get some victims and say: 'We can make this happen, I'm sure we can do this,' and then all they do is keep pumping fees in."
Analysts have also pointed out that the big manufacturers and advertisers traditionally want the sport to be shown on free-to-air channels as they draw the biggest possible audience, as opposed to Murdoch's paid-for TV channels such as BSkyB in Britain or Sky Italia.
Asked if coverage on free-to-air TV was still an issue, Ecclestone replied: "Definitely, 100%. If, and I think the chances are close to zero, but if Murdoch was to buy certainly he'd have to broadcast some free-to-air like it is now."
Murdoch has made sport a cornerstone of his pay-TV operations and it has also been a prime motivation for many of his deals, and analysts see a logic to his involvement in F1.
Martin Sorrell, the chief executive of the world's largest advertising group, WPP, and a director of Formula One, told Reuters he had no problems with a media company owning the rights to the sport. "I see no harm whatsoever in a pay-TV company investing in or owning Formula One," said Sorrell, who has clashed with Ecclestone in the past. "I see no problem with that.
"From what I've seen, I don't think CVC have indicated that they want to sell the business. I'm sure there would be interest because Formula One is a very strong property. But [I make] those comments as a WPP employee and not as a Formula One director."



http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/ ... pe=article

[quote="Stan-QPR"]



Don't believe all you read folks.

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I've read loads from you recently Stan.

So out of 365 days of the year Murdoch gets denied the chance to buy into F1 which is controlled by QPR supremo Bernie Ecclestone & then next day all of Murdoch's media outlets are talking of a points deduction! Hmmmmm




Think outside the box

So out of 365 days of the year Murdoch gets denied the chance to buy into F1 which is controlled by QPR supremo Bernie Ecclestone & then next day all of Murdoch's media outlets are talking of a points deduction! Hmmmmm




Think outside the box

You maybe right. Even so, extra pressure from the press/media will not help your case. Why do you think he's doing it?

The media 'pressure' & bad press you talk about will go AGAINST the tribunal / FA.

Any high court in the world would see the stuff written about us PRIOR to a hearing & throw it out.

Sub judicial.

Again I repeat embarrassing work from the Sun.

Murdoch loses face over F1 less than 24 hours later his media machine lays into the owner of QPR.

Amazing!!

do you really think murdoch has even heard of QPR

do you really think murdoch has even heard of QPR

do you really think murdoch has even heard of QPR

Think you've embarrassed yourself somewhat there to be honest.

Ask some of the worlds richest individuals what they think.

Lakshmi Mittal

Bernie Ecclestone

Flavio Briatore.

do you really think murdoch has even heard of QPR

Think you've embarrassed yourself somewhat there to be honest.

Ask some of the worlds richest individuals what they think.

Lakshmi Mittal

Bernie Ecclestone

Flavio Briatore.

are they the same people that have put up your club for sale?......offers around £100 million..... ...maybe they already know what's going to happen

So someone would buy a club for £100m in the championship yea??

Or did you think the prospective buyers just might not find out about all the fuss?
Bernie has never been a football man but has backed Warnock all the way to promotion.

Mittal the main man has said this week he's staying keeping his shares & is sitting down with Warnock to discuss budgets, targets & strategies.

Anyway that's off topic.

I think my initial post says it all.

Keep believing the Sun though folks!!

Stan, you-re rightly defending your club - as we all do. Christ, even we have been in trouble with the FA in the past

But do you honestly believe that QPR are whiter than white here? And the same for Paladini?

I don't know whats going to happen (and neither does anyone else in reality, however "impeccable" the source is), but on the surface it doesn't look good for you imo. Surely you would acknowledge that.

If you have broken league rules, I'd expect harsh reprisals. If.

Sorry Stan think your over analyzing things. I prefer to stay inside the box. Its quite clear QPR have been caught hook line and sinker and will be punished by the FA. Rupert Murdoch will have nothing to do with it, his media outlets will just be reporting on whatever punishment is deemed necessary. My view, for what its worth is the FA must be seen to act and will deduct enough points to at least put QPR into the play off positions so at least a 10 if not 15 point deduction and if they want to be really tough they could even go as far as a 20 or 30 point deduction (which would leave QPR outside the play off positions) because so many rules have been breached. If they do not punish QPR then I can see massive legal cases forthcomng ala West ham/Sheffield United.

For any one interested the list of charges brought by the FA against QPR are in the following link :-

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary ... ni-charged

Sorry Stan think your over analyzing things. I prefer to stay inside the box. Its quite clear QPR have been caught hook line and sinker and will be punished by the FA. Rupert Murdoch will have nothing to do with it, his media outlets will just be reporting on whatever punishment is deemed necessary. My view, for what its worth is the FA must be seen to act and will deduct enough points to at least put QPR into the play off positions so at least a 10 if not 15 point deduction and if they want to be really tough they could even go as far as a 20 or 30 point deduction (which would leave QPR outside the play off positions) because so many rules have been breached. If they do not punish QPR then I can see massive legal cases forthcomng ala West ham/Sheffield United.

For any one interested the list of charges brought by the FA against QPR are in the following link :-

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary ... ni-charged

does rupert murdoch own that link?.....

Sorry guys I'm not buying it & that's not with QPR tinted glasses on that's with a common sense head on.

Publicly embarrassed by QPR owner Bernie on the 28th of April & on the 29th we are all doomed!!!

Not having that at all.

this is how i see things at the moment.....if cardiff are promoted i couldn't care less what punishment QPR get.....if cardiff are not promoted then QPR are a bunch of cheating cunts

Sorry guys I'm not buying it & that's not with QPR tinted glasses on that's with a common sense head on.

Publicly embarrassed by QPR owner Bernie on the 28th of April & on the 29th we are all doomed!!!

Not having that at all.

Stan, what happened to your avatar - are you waiting for the ostrich with its head in the sand pic to be uploaded?

Keep up the good work, responses like that show me you are now clutching at the proverbial straw!

:lol:

Keep up the good work, responses like that show me you are now clutching at the proverbial straw!

Keep up the good work, responses like that show me you are now clutching at the proverbial short straw!

Not really - I want us to win the next two games and see where that gets us. Promotion imo.

As I've said before, I don't know whats going to happen to you - and neither does anyone else prior to this tribunal. What will be will be.

But would I take promotion if you were deducted points? Too right I would. My club gets scrutinised for everything we do by every other club in the country and we have to play by the rules. So do you.

So its not clutching at straws, its examining the possibilities. Its not as cut and dried as you make out.

A little snippet from castleblue a respected poster on here with 20 years of administrate knowledge.


Castle blue wrote;

Having said that I spoke to someone last night who is a member of a county association of the FA and he told me that the grapevine is saying that QPR have put forward in their written responce to the charges a reasonable defence and the FA are concerned the IRC may actually throw out a few of these charges.

If thats the case then maybe a guilty verdict on a couple of charges may see them only receive a fine as punishment.

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But as said previously keep reading the Sun!!

A little snippet from castleblue a respected poster on here with 20 years of administrate knowledge.


Castle blue wrote;

Having said that I spoke to someone last night who is a member of a county association of the FA and he told me that the grapevine is saying that QPR have put forward in their written responce to the charges a reasonable defence and the FA are concerned the IRC may actually throw out a few of these charges.

If thats the case then maybe a guilty verdict on a couple of charges may see them only receive a fine as punishment.

"GRAPEVINE"

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But as said previously keep reading the Sun!!

Oh but hang on only a day or 2 ago his posts were being read as if it was the holy grail as the man clearly has a lot of knowledge & contacts in this field but now its just hearsay say? Haha ok mate.

I'm very happy with what I've read today regarding that post & Ruperts very very amazingly coincidental embarrassment at the hands of a QPR owner just a DAY before all this sensational news broke!!

And who funds the Premier league ?

None other than Sky sports - owned by Mr Murdoch.

If he doesnt want you in there, he'll find a way.

Mind you, they don't want us either, judging by last weeks (or 30 years) refereeing, not that I'm biased or anything


Really hope we win on Monday and Saturday as I dont think Norwich will beat Pompey and it will be of no consequence then.


You never know if QPR do get docked many points it could lead to our players putting in a real performance on Saturday, making any appeal irrelevent.

This is terrible for QPR fans and I really feel sorry for decent guys like Stan, but at the end of the day I'm desperate for our club to get to the level we've missed out on for 50 years, for my kids and my mates kids to see us against the big boys, and wouldnt hesistate to take the back door if offerred.

I've never refused the back door either lawn if offered by a young filly!

Interestingly all the publications claiming this so called points deduction are all owned by none other than Rupert Murdoch;

Sky Sports News

The Sun

Talk Sport

Have a read of this dated YESTERDAY & then lo & behold looks what hit the press today.

Don't believe all you read folks.

You may be right Stan in saying that these articles appearing in News corp publications and media are merely the work of a bitter meglomaniac getting back at someone who wont play ball with him. However I think most of us living in the real world will see the articles appearing today as being the natural cycle of the media which will build up from last week when an article appeared in the People and also in the Mirror, neither of which by the way are owned by Murdoch.

The biggest argument in your favour for a fine over a points deduction for me has always been the fact that this has been left until the last minute. My initial thoughts on this and many others, I suspect, was that the allegations were not so serious and therefore it was of no consequence, when the punishment was dealt out, as it would be just a fine. The more that I have read into the allegations over this last week, I am coming around to the idea, that the alleged charges are so damaging that the FA have already made their mind up that a big points deduction is the only course of action, which will be ratified by an independent body and they will make a prime example of QPR at the maximum time of impact, which timing it before the last game of the season, will undoubtedly have. To take away any teams promotion at the last minute will be so harsh, especially the way that a team of QPR's ability have achieved it on the field this season, however, I think that may be the point of leaving it until that time. Lets be honest if QPR are found guilty of half these charges especially of submitting false documentation in order to cover up a former indiscretion, then no one apart from QPR fans will have a grain of sympathy.



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Rupert Murdoch has a "close to zero" chance of buying Formula One and talk of a takeover is being driven by the media and advisers seeking to make money, the sport's supremo, Bernie Ecclestone, has said.
Reports this month said that Murdoch's News Corp was in the early stages of talks to form a consortium to acquire control of Formula One motor racing. Formula One is owned by the private equity firm CVC and managed by Ecclestone. News Corp held preliminary talks with at least one big car manufacturer, thought to be Ferrari, and with the Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim, who already has links to the sport, the person said.
"It's media driven," Ecclestone told Reuters in a telephone interview. "It looks very much like someone who is trying to see if they can make [money].
"All of these people that get involved with these things, they get some victims and say: 'We can make this happen, I'm sure we can do this,' and then all they do is keep pumping fees in."
Analysts have also pointed out that the big manufacturers and advertisers traditionally want the sport to be shown on free-to-air channels as they draw the biggest possible audience, as opposed to Murdoch's paid-for TV channels such as BSkyB in Britain or Sky Italia.
Asked if coverage on free-to-air TV was still an issue, Ecclestone replied: "Definitely, 100%. If, and I think the chances are close to zero, but if Murdoch was to buy certainly he'd have to broadcast some free-to-air like it is now."
Murdoch has made sport a cornerstone of his pay-TV operations and it has also been a prime motivation for many of his deals, and analysts see a logic to his involvement in F1.
Martin Sorrell, the chief executive of the world's largest advertising group, WPP, and a director of Formula One, told Reuters he had no problems with a media company owning the rights to the sport. "I see no harm whatsoever in a pay-TV company investing in or owning Formula One," said Sorrell, who has clashed with Ecclestone in the past. "I see no problem with that.
"From what I've seen, I don't think CVC have indicated that they want to sell the business. I'm sure there would be interest because Formula One is a very strong property. But [I make] those comments as a WPP employee and not as a Formula One director."



http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/ ... pe=article

I've never refused the back door either lawn if offered by a young filly!

After I posted it I wondered which filthy b*stard would be first to pick up on that.

You deserve an award for getting in there before our own rude brigade

Murdoch is very much to blame for turning football into corporate entertainment and against the real football fans.
If we are likely to be playing the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea next season and are being charged around £60 for a ticket, remember which tool helped skyrocket prices in football.

A sniff of 'back door' action & I'm all over it like a bad rash mate!

Murdoch is very much to blame for turning football into corporate entertainment and against the real football fans.
If we are likely to be playing the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea next season and are being charged around £60 for a ticket, remember which tool helped skyrocket prices in football.

Spot on mate.

Its no longer a working mans game anymore Chris sadly.

Murdoch is very much to blame for turning football into corporate entertainment and against the real football fans.
If we are likely to be playing the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea next season and are being charged around £60 for a ticket, remember which tool helped skyrocket prices in football.

Spot on mate.

Its no longer a working mans game anymore Chris sadly.

Too true, and it will be a lot worse in the Premier League sadly.