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" WHERE DID WE GO WRONG ? " Sent from A British Pension

Postby Forever Blue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:21 pm

I JUST RECEIVED THIS EMAIL and WAS ASKED TO FORWARD IT ON, Started by a BRITISH PENSIONER





OH BRITAIN, where did we go wrong ?

We're "broke" and can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.,?????????

Are you aware of the following?

The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly allowance £100
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly allowance £250

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance £25
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance £225

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0;00
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £29,900

Please read all and then forward to all your contacts so that we can lobby for a decent aged pension.

After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years.

Sad isn't it?

Most people won't bother to forward this.
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Postby Billy Hunt. » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:24 pm

The sad thing is, its all true. I can't imagine what things will be like in 50 years time
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Postby e23smithy » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:24 pm

f*cking disgrace
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:26 pm

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £29,900
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Postby chris_ccfc » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:26 pm

The British government cannot afford the state pension as it is. I’m 23 now and I fully expect as I get older the state pension will be abolished as it’s unsustainable. The true mess our country is in is staggering, it’s going to be a very long and hard road to recovery.
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:30 pm

From Facebook




Annis Abraham Jnr BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £29,900
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Simon Haycock It's more than wrong Annis, it's our F..king taxes that are funding these parasites..
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Ash Wilson Its a joke isnt it Annis. Britain doesnt care about its own anymore
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Postby DaveSheffield » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:31 pm

Where are these figures from?

I'm not saying they're wrong for a second, but there's a lot of variables in there that haven't been addressed at all.

Some of "our own" - who are they by the way? - don't deserve help, we've got some real scum crawling our streets.

Sweeping generalisations will do nobody any good. :?
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Postby Tony Blue Williams » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:35 pm

May be there is hope at the end of the tunnel. China now has the 2nd biggest economy in the world and is on target to overtake the USA in 10 years time and become the worlds biggest. India already has a GDP bigger than the UK and again is on target to overtake the World's 3rd biggest economy Japan in 10 years time.

So my top tip is to start thinking about heading east to look for work and whilst your asylum applications are being considered in Beijing or New Delhi you can live off their generous benefit systems ;)
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Postby Blainccfc » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:36 pm

Absoute disgrace and sadley nothing will get done about it :evil: :evil:
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:39 pm

DaveSheffield wrote:Where are these figures from?

I'm not saying they're wrong for a second, but there's a lot of variables in there that haven't been addressed at all.

Some of "our own" - who are they by the way? - don't deserve help, we've got some real scum crawling our streets.

Sweeping generalisations will do nobody any good. :?



I was sent email, Dave you Always like to prove Carl or Myself wrong, their not My Figures, BUT I WOULD ACTUALLY BE HAPPY IF YOU CAN PROVE THEM WRONG :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
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Postby DaveSheffield » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
DaveSheffield wrote:Where are these figures from?

I'm not saying they're wrong for a second, but there's a lot of variables in there that haven't been addressed at all.

Some of "our own" - who are they by the way? - don't deserve help, we've got some real scum crawling our streets.

Sweeping generalisations will do nobody any good. :?



I was sent email, Dave you Always like to prove Carl or Myself wrong, their not My Figures, BUT I WOULD ACTUALLY BE HAPPY IF YOU CAN PROVE THEM WRONG :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Take a glance at the bit in bold ;)

I just like to clear up the facts is all, it's never about PROVING someone wrong. If I see something I'm not sure about being reported as fact without a source I think I'm justified in asking for a source, am I not?
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Postby tylerdurdenisabluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:42 pm

I have seen official figures in the region of those listed, so they are truth.
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Postby chris_ccfc » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:43 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:May be there is hope at the end of the tunnel. China now has the 2nd biggest economy in the world and is on target to overtake the USA in 10 years time and become the worlds biggest. India already has a GDP bigger than the UK and again is on target to overtake the World's 3rd biggest economy Japan in 10 years time.

So my top tip is to start thinking about heading east to look for work and whilst your asylum applications are being considered in Beijing or New Delhi you can live off their generous benefit systems ;)


Did you see the documentary the other night about China, their rate of grow really is staggering? I have been fascinated by them for years due to their rapid expansion. They are building cities the size of London for fun.

Britain and America are already trading like third world countries and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future, the shift in power has already moved and won’t change for a long time. Brazil and Latin America is another area we should watch out for.

People should look closer to home before blaming the immigrants, far too many people have it easy here and live of our benefit system.
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Postby beano1 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:50 pm

the answer is get rid of all the OAPs and throw our passports away and we all become illegals,our standard of living goes up overnight :old: ....oh feck what am i saying i,m an OAP in august..... :crybaby:
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Postby ninianblue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:54 pm

the countrys a joke, has been for many years,,,,, these politicians, are ,whats in it for me, what do i get,,,,,,,,,,,,,, second morgages, cleaners, gardeners, all paid for by us, the tax payer,,,,,, police coming more corrupt every day, the country stinks,,,,,, does it really matter wheather the conservatives, labour, etc, get in power, there all the same,,,,,, a good few years back ,labour was your only vote, the working class, not any more,,, the new labour is your, 2nd conservative vote, bollox to the lot of them, im past caring now, unless we get the balls to do what egyptians done, and fight for there rights,
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:56 pm

Annis, I'm not being funny but it took me all of three minutes to find out that this is a fake email with very misleading and inaccurate information included. You should be more responsible than to send "blame it on the immigrants" emails without substantiating it first.

Here you go.

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers ... -05621.pdf
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Postby Marc » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:02 pm

Raging :twisted: :twisted: .........WE ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD. We are a soft touch. :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:08 pm

AfricanBluebird wrote:Annis, I'm not being funny but it took me all of three minutes to find out that this is a fake email with very misleading and inaccurate information included. You should be more responsible than to send "blame it on the immigrants" emails without substantiating it first.

Here you go.

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers ... -05621.pdf



As I said it was sent to me by email.
But as A landlord I do know this, More money is being offered to Landlords to take them in.


SO WHAT ARE THE FIGURES THEN REAL FIGURES ?








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Postby Willy the Wombat » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:21 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I JUST RECEIVED THIS EMAIL and WAS ASKED TO FORWARD IT ON, Started by a BRITISH PENSIONER





OH BRITAIN, where did we go wrong ?

We're "broke" and can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.,?????????

Are you aware of the following?

The British Government provides the following financial assistance: -

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly allowance £100
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly allowance £250

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance £25
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance £225

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0;00
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS / REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £29,900

Please read all and then forward to all your contacts so that we can lobby for a decent aged pension.

After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years.

Sad isn't it?

Most people won't bother to forward this.
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That is bollox of the highest order.

If I could be arsed, which I'm not, I think you'd find it is significantly more.
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Postby tylerdurdenisabluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:24 pm

If we take central London for an example, did you see how much rent they were getting paid for them by US? So it is probably more, in a lot of cases.
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Postby Tony Blue Williams » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:42 pm

AfricanBluebird wrote:Annis, I'm not being funny but it took me all of three minutes to find out that this is a fake email with very misleading and inaccurate information included. You should be more responsible than to send "blame it on the immigrants" emails without substantiating it first.

Here you go.

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers ... -05621.pdf


The figures are probably wrong but the point is perfectly true.

Further whilst no-one can argue with the Government's welfare reforms announced today I was concerned to see that there was no mention of reforming immigrant welfare payments.
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Postby FOOTSOLDIER » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:44 pm

WE SHOULD GET ALL THE FOOTY CLUBS TOGETHER TO AGREE TO PROTEST AT EVERY MATCH ON ONE SET DATE. THEN THE SHIT ARSE POLITICIANS WOULD TAKE NOTICE. :ayatollah:
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Postby earnieblue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:44 pm

Makes me f*cking evil :twisted:
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:52 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:Annis, I'm not being funny but it took me all of three minutes to find out that this is a fake email with very misleading and inaccurate information included. You should be more responsible than to send "blame it on the immigrants" emails without substantiating it first.

Here you go.

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers ... -05621.pdf


The figures are probably wrong but the point is perfectly true.

Further whilst no-one can argue with the Government's welfare reforms announced today I was concerned to see that there was no mention of reforming immigrant welfare payments.



The figures are hugely wrong.

In fact if people are given refugee status they will get almost the same benefits as a UK resident. However there are thousands and thousands who do not get refugee status and therefore get 'vouchers' rather than cash often relying on charities or churches for accomodation.

Pople should speak to someone who knows about these things not believe some stupid childish scam email.

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/practi ... /facts.htm
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:53 pm

earnieblue wrote:Makes me f*cking evil :twisted:


But its innaccurate and wrong so you can keep your evil inside a little longer..

http://languages.refugeecouncil.org.uk/ ... nglish.pdf
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/practi ... /facts.htm
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:54 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:WE SHOULD GET ALL THE FOOTY CLUBS TOGETHER TO AGREE TO PROTEST AT EVERY MATCH ON ONE SET DATE. THEN THE SHIT ARSE POLITICIANS WOULD TAKE NOTICE. :ayatollah:



Because we would all look stupid. It would be a protest about a spam and misleading email... disproven last July.
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Postby tomcat » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:58 pm

This email is completely made up, and circulated to stir up racial hatred. If any of you take the trouble to look at the Parliament link given earlier, you will see the story behind it.
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Postby Forever Blue » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:00 pm

The figures are prob Not Accurate, But it does show there is a Problem and people are unhappy with it.
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:01 pm

tomcat wrote:This email is completely made up, and circulated to stir up racial hatred. If any of you take the trouble to look at the Parliament link given earlier, you will see the story behind it.



Sense at last... although I think people would rather believe a stupid email spam that makes them angry than search for the facts. No wonder Hitler found it easy to manipulate a whole generation - people need to think and look for themselves.
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Postby AfricanBluebird » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:05 pm

Forever Blue wrote:The figures are prob Not Accurate, But it does show there is a Problem and people are unhappy with it.


Annis there is no doubt that there are problems in Britain but blaming immigrants is the lazy thing to do. Yes people are angry at the way our country has treated the elderly, the armed forces, schools etc but most reporting about immigrants / refugees is very misleading.

Heres a report about the rights of refugees and the problems that arise:
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