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" Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:07 pm

For those who are concerned about the Boxing day game against Coventry City because of the snow and the apparent lack of effort at removing it from around the stadium are, I am assured, mistaken. City officials are "going all out" and are 99.9% that the game will be on.

The good news is that despite him not being fit for the Burnley game due to his hamstring pull, Jay Bothroyd is now fully recovered and will play against Coventry.

I have read many posts on here claiming DJ does not have the passion or desire to take this team up to the Premier League. Absolute nonsense.

I see people say he doesn't care enough and in that they believe that DJ is not bothered about if we lose to the Jacks and so on. On the matter of the jacks Dave Jones and his coaching staff have regular training methods but for the 3rd season running, in the week leading up to Swansea game DJ changed the training routines and even changed our formation from our regular shape. This is not the actions of a man who simply doesn't care, they are the actions I believe of someone who wants the result desperately.

Another reason why DJ would want to get this team promoted is the bonus I believe he will receive on achieving promotion to the Premier League. It is my understanding that Dave Jones will collect £2million if he achieves the dream of delivering promotion.

Transfer targets I am aware of are already floating about and have been for a while and in some cases for months. Loovens is a target and so is Wayne Routledge and Adam Hammill.

Steven Howard has told his agent that he likes the set up at City and "can see himself playing for the club ", there is the come and get me plea, DJ was interested in the Summer but the stumbling block would be the length of contract, I understand that Howard wants a minimum of a 2 and a half year deal.

Nick Montgomery is a player you may have read about recently as a target, in the summer he was wanted by Dave Jones and the player's agent came to the club to negotiate and wanted £10k wages p.w for the player but the board of Cardiff City refused to pay those wages for him. Montgomery has since signed a 3 year deal with Sheffield United and is currently captaining the side so he will not be coming here this January.

Cardiff City have retained their academy status as a result of the recently built House of Sport and the timing is very good as I have said before that there is plans to grade academy from next season and we will be graded at level 2 with the elite being at at level 1. There is plans also to extend to European academy's playing each other in the not so distant. The FA simply want the cream of the crop eating at the top table and want lower league clubs to be nowhere near their big guns and the European academy league is another step in that direction. Clubs lower than us are actually losing their academy status if they do not have a hydrotherapy pool.

The Malaysians have been so impressed by the recent build that they have in fact invited Steve Borley to Malaysia in the New Year to go through plans of building such a venture in their homeland.

Still no deal agreed between Langston and CCFC. There is 9 days to conclude any deal but it is looking increasingly unlikely and the club will have missed the opportunity to reduce a massive debt. Sam Hammam wants the deal to happen but unless there is talk between himself and Vincent Tan or his representatives then I cannot see any hope of it happening.

This is short update whilst I take a break from wrapping Christmas presents :lol:

Merry Christmas :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:10 pm

Cheers Carl, Merry Christmas :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:11 pm

merry christmas carl and thanks for the update :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:12 pm

then carl maybe the team,dont want it,if D.J does,he has very strange way of showing it,cheers carl :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:12 pm

Merry Christmas to you and your family as well Carl :ayatollah: :ayatollah: ..Cheers for the update..Is the next one on Saturday?? :shock: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:14 pm

krab wrote:then carl maybe the team,dont want it,if D.J does,he has very strange way of showing it,cheers carl :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

DJ does show himself up in bad light with certain comments Kev and would better off being more honest in my opinion.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:14 pm

Cheers carl have a good xmas!! :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:14 pm

I think the club will be stupid not to sort the deal out with Langston prior to 31st Dec, so much to lose otherwise, does not add up.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:16 pm

Nice one Carl :ayatollah:

Any idea how much DJ will have to spend in Jan? :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:19 pm

Thanks for the update Carl intresting. Perhaps it is wrong to question DJs passion sorry greed but i dont believe its because he dosen't want it to happen just plain incompetance of the man. I know you are a DJ fan and i respect that you have never changed your mind.Fair play .
Now you have read the update Aherne is it now Image :lol:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:20 pm

Thanks very much from taking time out of your busy schedule. Merry christmas to you and your family Carl :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:22 pm

Nice 1 carl merry xmas mate have a good one :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:23 pm

Cheers Carl, I know how Busy you are at the moment :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

MERRY XMAS TO YOU and YOUR FANTASTIC FAMILY, New Years Eve at My House :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:24 pm

Thanks Carl

There was no need for DJ to change tactics aginst the Jacks!
Just play people in their normal postitions, instead of square pegs!

I only played Welsh League aswell... :o

Merry Christmas

:ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:24 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Thanks for the update Carl intresting. Perhaps it is wrong to question DJs passion sorry greed but i dont believe its because he dosen't want it to happen just plain incompetance of the man. I know you are a DJ fan and i respect that you have never changed your mind.Fair play .
Now you have read the update Aherne is it now Image :lol:

:lol:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:28 pm

Don't forget to wrap DJ's present. In my opinion he would like royal blue wrapping paper.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:31 pm

I've' never said DJ does not care and his actions in changing formation for the Jacks game is a sign that he wants it. However my opinion of him not being up for it has been confirmed here. It seems to me he is not capable of getting the right formation away from his deloved 4 4 2. Now we know why there has not been a plan B, he cant do one.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:32 pm

thanks carl,but routledge can piss off after the way he treated us,greedy b*stard.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:33 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:I've' never said DJ does not care and his actions in changing formation for the Jacks game is a sign that he wants it. However my opinion of him not being up for it has been confirmed here. It seems to me he is not capable of getting the right formation away from his deloved 4 4 2. Now we know why there has not been a plan B, he cant do one.


Spot on Ian :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

I Believe though he does Not Care.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:35 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've' never said DJ does not care and his actions in changing formation for the Jacks game is a sign that he wants it. However my opinion of him not being up for it has been confirmed here. It seems to me he is not capable of getting the right formation away from his deloved 4 4 2. Now we know why there has not been a plan B, he cant do one.


Spot on Ian :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

I Believe though he does Not Care.


In my opinion Carl is biased to DJ. He's getting too close within the DJ camp.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:45 pm

Carl - thanks for the update and merry Xmas to you! Whilst I don't doubt DJs passion he is still inept and his approach tactics and selection for the Swansea game completely showed him up! As did his tactics and subs at Qpr! I don't doubt he wants us to get promoted but I do doubt his ability!

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:09 pm

Thanks carl happy xmas :D ;)

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:16 pm

My Opinion And Mine Only wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've' never said DJ does not care and his actions in changing formation for the Jacks game is a sign that he wants it. However my opinion of him not being up for it has been confirmed here. It seems to me he is not capable of getting the right formation away from his deloved 4 4 2. Now we know why there has not been a plan B, he cant do one.


Spot on Ian :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

I Believe though he does Not Care.


In my opinion Carl is biased to DJ. He's getting too close within the DJ camp.

That is your opinion and but have never hidden my support of DJ and neither do I allow it to stand within the way of the updates.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:17 pm

Thanks for all the messages both on the this thread and the private ones ;) :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:17 pm

Good update :ayatollah:

On the passion and desire thing, I will suggest that there is no smoke without fire. I did post a thread a few weeks back regarding this, from what other people have said to me. While it's probably not true, there must be something in his actions that gets quite a few supporters thinking of him in that context; it doesn't just get plucked out of the air. Saying that, I'm not of that viewpoint - I'm of the Nuclearblue school of thinking.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:26 pm

still no langston deal even talked about between vt and sam the king of loan notes,this is cutting it fine you ask me by are so called "in it for the long haul owners" :?
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Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:27 pm

cheers carl great pos t as always :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:33 pm

carlccfc wrote:For those who are concerned about the Boxing day game against Coventry City because of the snow and the apparent lack of effort at removing it from around the stadium are, I am assured, mistaken. City officials are "going all out" and are 99.9% that the game will be on.

The good news is that despite him not being fit for the Burnley game due to his hamstring pull, Jay Bothroyd is now fully recovered and will play against Coventry.

I have read many posts on here claiming DJ does not have the passion or desire to take this team up to the Premier League. Absolute nonsense.

I see people say he doesn't care enough and in that they believe that DJ is not bothered about if we lose to the Jacks and so on. On the matter of the jacks Dave Jones and his coaching staff have regular training methods but for the 3rd season running, in the week leading up to Swansea game DJ changed the training routines and even changed our formation from our regular shape. This is not the actions of a man who simply doesn't care, they are the actions I believe of someone who wants the result desperately.

Another reason why DJ would want to get this team promoted is the bonus I believe he will receive on achieving promotion to the Premier League. It is my understanding that Dave Jones will collect £2million if he achieves the dream of delivering promotion.

Transfer targets I am aware of are already floating about and have been for a while and in some cases for months. Loovens is a target and so is Wayne Routledge and Adam Hammill.

Steven Howard has told his agent that he likes the set up at City and "can see himself playing for the club ", there is the come and get me plea, DJ was interested in the Summer but the stumbling block would be the length of contract, I understand that Howard wants a minimum of a 2 and a half year deal.

Nick Montgomery is a player you may have read about recently as a target, in the summer he was wanted by Dave Jones and the player's agent came to the club to negotiate and wanted £10k wages p.w for the player but the board of Cardiff City refused to pay those wages for him. Montgomery has since signed a 3 year deal with Sheffield United and is currently captaining the side so he will not be coming here this January.

Cardiff City have retained their academy status as a result of the recently built House of Sport and the timing is very good as I have said before that there is plans to grade academy from next season and we will be graded at level 2 with the elite being at at level 1. There is plans also to extend to European academy's playing each other in the not so distant. The FA simply want the cream of the crop eating at the top table and want lower league clubs to be nowhere near their big guns and the European academy league is another step in that direction. Clubs lower than us are actually losing their academy status if they do not have a hydrotherapy pool.

The Malaysians have been so impressed by the recent build that they have in fact invited Steve Borley to Malaysia in the New Year to go through plans of building such a venture in their homeland.

Still no deal agreed between Langston and CCFC. There is 9 days to conclude any deal but it is looking increasingly unlikely and the club will have missed the opportunity to reduce a massive debt. Sam Hammam wants the deal to happen but unless there is talk between himself and Vincent Tan or his representatives then I cannot see any hope of it happening.

This is short update whilst I take a break from wrapping Christmas presents :lol:

Merry Christmas :ayatollah:



Cheers mate, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and many thanks for your updates all year they have been greatly appreciated :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:37 pm

Thank you again Carl for the update, some do not like DJ for personal reasons and maybe have a vendetta against him. The slating of DJ is now getting to the stage of paranoia. At the end of the day he is our manager, like it or not.

Re: Sticky : " Wednesday 22nd December 2010 Update "

Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:38 pm

Jimbo27 wrote:Carl - thanks for the update and merry Xmas to you! Whilst I don't doubt DJs passion he is still inept and his approach tactics and selection for the Swansea game completely showed him up! As did his tactics and subs at Qpr! I don't doubt he wants us to get promoted but I do doubt his ability!


His player was out, we missed Jay simple as that, if he had been fit we could have kept our best team, 442 and beaten the rat munchers.....