Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:55 am
Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:11 am
Jock wrote:Should he be in jail?
Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:21 am
Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:33 am
Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:48 am
pembroke allan wrote:Jock wrote:Should he be in jail?
No if that was anyone else they would be out on bail! Its another case of a political decision .. he was a bit stupid foing it while someone was on board it but they wasn't in danger as the charges states dinghies do not sink no matter how many holes in it.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:09 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:21 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:46 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:50 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:First, let me say I am anti-illegal immigration. However I'm not opposed to GENUINE asylum seekers fleeing danger in their own countries.
However, I AM opposed to people taking the law into their own hands. Slashing rubber dinghies, regardless of who they belong to, is criminal damage and therefore against the law. Filming oneself doing it, is on another level of stupidity entirely.
Should he be in jail? Good question. It's down to the interpretation and discretion of police. I post the relevant information below.
If you ask me, the guy is a thug, not a hero or a patriot, particulary when you look at his previous offences which include domestic abuse against his partner, nice guy, NOT! I reserve the terms hero and patriot for genuine heroism or patriotism such as those in the armed forces on active duty. However thats just by the by, and I am not a leftie by the way. Even the Right have a duty to abide by the law of the land.
Heres the relevant information as to why bail has been denied :-
How Bail Works After a New Arrest
• Loss of automatic right: Under criminal law, committing or being charged with a new offence while on bail means you no longer have a statutory presumption or automatic right to be released - tick
• Discretionary decision: The police or the court can still grant bail, but the decision is entirely discretionary - tick
• Burden of persuasion: You or your legal representative must actively persuade the custody officer or the judge that you will not fail to surrender, commit further offences, or interfere with witnesses - tick as he has proved he cannot keep out of trouble.
Factors Considered
• Nature of the new offence: The seriousness and similarity of the new charge compared to the original one.
• Risk of reoffending: The fact that an alleged offence occurred while on bail weighs heavily against granting release - tick
• Previous compliance: Whether you adhered to your prior bail conditions or had any previous breaches - clearly hasnt.
My view? Enjoy the Christmas festivities in the nick, and try not to be a prat again when you do get released.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:06 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:24 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:First, let me say I am anti-illegal immigration. However I'm not opposed to GENUINE asylum seekers fleeing danger in their own countries.
However, I AM opposed to people taking the law into their own hands. Slashing rubber dinghies, regardless of who they belong to, is criminal damage and therefore against the law. Filming oneself doing it, is on another level of stupidity entirely.
Should he be in jail? Good question. It's down to the interpretation and discretion of police. I post the relevant information below.
If you ask me, the guy is a thug, not a hero or a patriot, particulary when you look at his previous offences which include domestic abuse against his partner, nice guy, NOT! I reserve the terms hero and patriot for genuine heroism or patriotism such as those in the armed forces on active duty. However thats just by the by, and I am not a leftie by the way. Even the Right have a duty to abide by the law of the land.
Heres the relevant information as to why bail has been denied :-
How Bail Works After a New Arrest
• Loss of automatic right: Under criminal law, committing or being charged with a new offence while on bail means you no longer have a statutory presumption or automatic right to be released - tick
• Discretionary decision: The police or the court can still grant bail, but the decision is entirely discretionary - tick
• Burden of persuasion: You or your legal representative must actively persuade the custody officer or the judge that you will not fail to surrender, commit further offences, or interfere with witnesses - tick as he has proved he cannot keep out of trouble.
Factors Considered
• Nature of the new offence: The seriousness and similarity of the new charge compared to the original one.
• Risk of reoffending: The fact that an alleged offence occurred while on bail weighs heavily against granting release - tick
• Previous compliance: Whether you adhered to your prior bail conditions or had any previous breaches - clearly hasnt.
My view? Enjoy the Christmas festivities in the nick, and try not to be a prat again when you do get released.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:28 pm
Cardiff_CPT wrote:Danny is a political prisoner highlighting this invasion, and should be out at once.
The NGO'S facilitating this invasion should be in jail, and follow the money who is funding them, Soros in jail once the British patience erodes.
Andy Burnham said that the RAF incident was in the matter of the authorities as we don't know all the facts, yet he called Danny a racist.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:59 pm
Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:First, let me say I am anti-illegal immigration. However I'm not opposed to GENUINE asylum seekers fleeing danger in their own countries.
However, I AM opposed to people taking the law into their own hands. Slashing rubber dinghies, regardless of who they belong to, is criminal damage and therefore against the law. Filming oneself doing it, is on another level of stupidity entirely.
Should he be in jail? Good question. It's down to the interpretation and discretion of police. I post the relevant information below.
If you ask me, the guy is a thug, not a hero or a patriot, particulary when you look at his previous offences which include domestic abuse against his partner, nice guy, NOT! I reserve the terms hero and patriot for genuine heroism or patriotism such as those in the armed forces on active duty. However thats just by the by, and I am not a leftie by the way. Even the Right have a duty to abide by the law of the land.
Heres the relevant information as to why bail has been denied :-
How Bail Works After a New Arrest
• Loss of automatic right: Under criminal law, committing or being charged with a new offence while on bail means you no longer have a statutory presumption or automatic right to be released - tick
• Discretionary decision: The police or the court can still grant bail, but the decision is entirely discretionary - tick
• Burden of persuasion: You or your legal representative must actively persuade the custody officer or the judge that you will not fail to surrender, commit further offences, or interfere with witnesses - tick as he has proved he cannot keep out of trouble.
Factors Considered
• Nature of the new offence: The seriousness and similarity of the new charge compared to the original one.
• Risk of reoffending: The fact that an alleged offence occurred while on bail weighs heavily against granting release - tick
• Previous compliance: Whether you adhered to your prior bail conditions or had any previous breaches - clearly hasnt.
My view? Enjoy the Christmas festivities in the nick, and try not to be a prat again when you do get released.
Domestic abuse of his partner? When?
That’s utter bollox, what a thing to accuse someone of. You want to check your “facts” before posting shite like that. The treacherous scum running our country have levelled the same lie against Tommy Robinson, again a complete lie.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:18 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:51 pm
Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:09 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:28 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:32 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:35 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 5:35 pm
Blue since 1981 wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
The problem is if the government and the police force refuse to protect the british people from these monsters what else can we do to ensure the safety of our families other than to protect them ourselves
Mon Oct 05, 2026 5:47 pm
Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Respect you withdrawing the domestic abuse lie
Afghan, Eritrean, and Syrian migrants commit sexual offences at 3 times the rate British people do.
I suggest you read Reforms manifesto before claiming their only policy is to stop the boats.
These boats have to be stopped, allowing unvettted migrants to flood into the country is insane. And the Bay of Pigs can ram their Nation of Sanctuary right up their Nat King.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:03 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
The problem is if the government and the police force refuse to protect the british people from these monsters what else can we do to ensure the safety of our families other than to protect them ourselves
Which monsters? The small, but yes awful, amount of crime perpetrated by the illegal immigrants, or the vast percentage of violent/sexual crimes perpetrated by white, British born males? Personally I detest all criminals whether they are from here or overseas. make no difference to me. Clearly it does to you as you make no mention of UK born 'monsters'.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:06 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
The problem is if the government and the police force refuse to protect the british people from these monsters what else can we do to ensure the safety of our families other than to protect them ourselves
Which monsters? The small, but yes awful, amount of crime perpetrated by the illegal immigrants, or the vast percentage of violent/sexual crimes perpetrated by white, British born males? Personally I detest all criminals whether they are from here or overseas. make no difference to me. Clearly it does to you as you make no mention of UK born 'monsters'.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:08 pm
Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:49 pm
Jumanji Jim wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Respect you withdrawing the domestic abuse lie
Afghan, Eritrean, and Syrian migrants commit sexual offences at 3 times the rate British people do.
I suggest you read Reforms manifesto before claiming their only policy is to stop the boats.
These boats have to be stopped, allowing unvettted migrants to flood into the country is insane. And the Bay of Pigs can ram their Nation of Sanctuary right up their Nat King.
Im afraid thats not borne out by offical statistics regarding serious crime involving violent/sexual/murder offences. Not my statistics - police/court statistics. over 80% of all sexual offences are committed by white british born males, which is hardly surprising considering that since 2018 the number of immigrants is officially 205,000 against a UK population of 69.5 million.
Ive read Reforms manifesto. Ive seen more believable stories in the Beano and Dandy.
There is no 'flood' of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country. I'd class it as a trickle, based on overall numbers since 2018 of 205,000 and a concern, but this country has bigger challenges and problems than the boats at this present moment in time.
Oh - and I wouldnt vote reform if you paid me £5 milllion pounds (that number sounds familiar). Their leader, apart from being a grifting twot, makes things up as he goes along. He criticised Burnham for abolishing the triple lock on pensions propoasl, conveiniently forgetting that he was in agreement with it a couple of years back. I wouldnt trust him, or his party, as far as I could throw him. Tories would the best of an admittedly poor bunch at present, even though they got us in deep shit over the last 14 years themselves, I believe they have learned from past mistakes. Liebour or Reform would be a disaster if elected at next election.
But hey, its all about opinions and I respect others even if I dont agree with them.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:18 pm
Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Respect you withdrawing the domestic abuse lie
Afghan, Eritrean, and Syrian migrants commit sexual offences at 3 times the rate British people do.
I suggest you read Reforms manifesto before claiming their only policy is to stop the boats.
These boats have to be stopped, allowing unvettted migrants to flood into the country is insane. And the Bay of Pigs can ram their Nation of Sanctuary right up their Nat King.
Im afraid thats not borne out by offical statistics regarding serious crime involving violent/sexual/murder offences. Not my statistics - police/court statistics. over 80% of all sexual offences are committed by white british born males, which is hardly surprising considering that since 2018 the number of immigrants is officially 205,000 against a UK population of 69.5 million.
Ive read Reforms manifesto. Ive seen more believable stories in the Beano and Dandy.
There is no 'flood' of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country. I'd class it as a trickle, based on overall numbers since 2018 of 205,000 and a concern, but this country has bigger challenges and problems than the boats at this present moment in time.
Oh - and I wouldnt vote reform if you paid me £5 milllion pounds (that number sounds familiar). Their leader, apart from being a grifting twot, makes things up as he goes along. He criticised Burnham for abolishing the triple lock on pensions propoasl, conveiniently forgetting that he was in agreement with it a couple of years back. I wouldnt trust him, or his party, as far as I could throw him. Tories would the best of an admittedly poor bunch at present, even though they got us in deep shit over the last 14 years themselves, I believe they have learned from past mistakes. Liebour or Reform would be a disaster if elected at next election.
But hey, its all about opinions and I respect others even if I dont agree with them.
Pro rata illegal migrants offend at a much higher rate.
Tories are pro mass migration, legal and illegal. They just like Liebour are globalist shills.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:20 pm
EastleighBlue wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
The problem is if the government and the police force refuse to protect the british people from these monsters what else can we do to ensure the safety of our families other than to protect them ourselves
Which monsters? The small, but yes awful, amount of crime perpetrated by the illegal immigrants, or the vast percentage of violent/sexual crimes perpetrated by white, British born males? Personally I detest all criminals whether they are from here or overseas. make no difference to me. Clearly it does to you as you make no mention of UK born 'monsters'.
100% agree. Demonising a minority is the oldest propaganda trick in the right wing play book. Swap small boat immigrants for Jews and its exactly what happened in Nazi Gernany. People dont realise how they are being manipulated into the hatred of a minority as a form of control. Social media amplifies that even more now. Monsters, Rapists, Fighting age men etc. All propaganda to create a fear and a false enemy that can only be solved by right wing leaders and policy. Sad reading how people on this board are so caught by this trap. Immigration is a problem but the narrative around it is false and not factual. It also hides from the bigger issues in our society too. Stop the boats wont heal our economy, solve social care, build better education or help our NHS. My advice to some on here is get off X and go and meet some real people.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:49 pm
EastleighBlue wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Respect you withdrawing the domestic abuse lie
Afghan, Eritrean, and Syrian migrants commit sexual offences at 3 times the rate British people do.
I suggest you read Reforms manifesto before claiming their only policy is to stop the boats.
These boats have to be stopped, allowing unvettted migrants to flood into the country is insane. And the Bay of Pigs can ram their Nation of Sanctuary right up their Nat King.
Im afraid thats not borne out by offical statistics regarding serious crime involving violent/sexual/murder offences. Not my statistics - police/court statistics. over 80% of all sexual offences are committed by white british born males, which is hardly surprising considering that since 2018 the number of immigrants is officially 205,000 against a UK population of 69.5 million.
Ive read Reforms manifesto. Ive seen more believable stories in the Beano and Dandy.
There is no 'flood' of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country. I'd class it as a trickle, based on overall numbers since 2018 of 205,000 and a concern, but this country has bigger challenges and problems than the boats at this present moment in time.
Oh - and I wouldnt vote reform if you paid me £5 milllion pounds (that number sounds familiar). Their leader, apart from being a grifting twot, makes things up as he goes along. He criticised Burnham for abolishing the triple lock on pensions propoasl, conveiniently forgetting that he was in agreement with it a couple of years back. I wouldnt trust him, or his party, as far as I could throw him. Tories would the best of an admittedly poor bunch at present, even though they got us in deep shit over the last 14 years themselves, I believe they have learned from past mistakes. Liebour or Reform would be a disaster if elected at next election.
But hey, its all about opinions and I respect others even if I dont agree with them.
Pro rata illegal migrants offend at a much higher rate.
Tories are pro mass migration, legal and illegal. They just like Liebour are globalist shills.
And your verified, independent, statistically based source for that is..? Let me guess I saw it on X? One simple google search will prove that's incorrect. But dont let facts get in the way of your beliefs or whatever your echo chamber social media feed says.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:14 pm
Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Respect you withdrawing the domestic abuse lie
Afghan, Eritrean, and Syrian migrants commit sexual offences at 3 times the rate British people do.
I suggest you read Reforms manifesto before claiming their only policy is to stop the boats.
These boats have to be stopped, allowing unvettted migrants to flood into the country is insane. And the Bay of Pigs can ram their Nation of Sanctuary right up their Nat King.
Im afraid thats not borne out by offical statistics regarding serious crime involving violent/sexual/murder offences. Not my statistics - police/court statistics. over 80% of all sexual offences are committed by white british born males, which is hardly surprising considering that since 2018 the number of immigrants is officially 205,000 against a UK population of 69.5 million.
Ive read Reforms manifesto. Ive seen more believable stories in the Beano and Dandy.
There is no 'flood' of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country. I'd class it as a trickle, based on overall numbers since 2018 of 205,000 and a concern, but this country has bigger challenges and problems than the boats at this present moment in time.
Oh - and I wouldnt vote reform if you paid me £5 milllion pounds (that number sounds familiar). Their leader, apart from being a grifting twot, makes things up as he goes along. He criticised Burnham for abolishing the triple lock on pensions propoasl, conveiniently forgetting that he was in agreement with it a couple of years back. I wouldnt trust him, or his party, as far as I could throw him. Tories would the best of an admittedly poor bunch at present, even though they got us in deep shit over the last 14 years themselves, I believe they have learned from past mistakes. Liebour or Reform would be a disaster if elected at next election.
But hey, its all about opinions and I respect others even if I dont agree with them.
Pro rata illegal migrants offend at a much higher rate.
Tories are pro mass migration, legal and illegal. They just like Liebour are globalist shills.
Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:24 pm
Blue since 1981 wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Jock wrote:Jumanji Jim wrote:Blue since 1981 wrote:Shabana Mahmood has today said that all women traveling on these dinghys are raped on the trip over , yet the government still allow these savages in to the country and on to our streets , I believe british citizens are well within their rights to try and stop this as our government and police forces just roll out the red carpet even after admitting they are rapists
Actually, whether you are left, centre or right wing (like me), none of the above is 'within their rights' to try and stop this.
As frustrating as illegal immigration is, it is not right to take the law into one's own hands and I, even though I am right wing in my views, cannot condone and will not condone any left, centre, right, or far-right, organisation that employs masked bully boys masquerading as 'patriots', using or threatening violence against anyone. We are a civilised society, are we not, who rely on our leaders, however flawed, to lead us.
In times of grave crisis, the citizens of this island nation, have rallied and taken arms in time of need, when directed by our goverment, to serve the country and defend it, one has only to look at major conflicts such as The Great War and World War Two as prime examples.
Latest official figures are that since 2018, a total of 205,000 immigrants have come over to the UK, (as much as it sticks in my craw to say it, figures have massively fallen under Liebour) against a total UK population of 69.5 million people. By my maths thats 0.29% of the total population that are immigrants in the last 8 years.
Now, as right wing and anti-illegal immigration as I am, even I can see that that does not constitute a 'grave' crisis.
People will point out that illegal immigrants rape and murder our citizens. Yes some of them do. But statisically, 80% of sex crimes in the UK are perpetrated by white, british born males. Not surprising stats when you compute the above official stats regarding numbers of immigrants since 2018.
Believe me, this country has more pressing problems that illegal immigration, and the sooner Liebour are out the better, but it has to be the Tories in next election. Not Reform. Granted illegal immigration was rife the last time the Conservative party were in, but Reform? Their only slogan is 'Stop the Boats' - How you going to that then Mr Farage? Put a maginot line round the South Coast and blow them out of the water? Bit of news for you and Reform. Thats as illegal as illegal immigration. There are ALWAY going to be boats it's the nature of the beast, you cannot defend every sqaure yard of the English Channel its impossible. Change Asylum rules? Good luck on that - the right of asylum (genuine asylum) is not something you can interfere with readily. Deport them as soon as they land? Nope you cant do that you have to go through the proper process.
As a right winger myself, Reform would be a disaster - half of them were in charge when the Conservatives were in power before Liebour.
Whats the answer then? I don't know, but I know it's not far-right violence and thuggery. Makes us no better than anyone else.
Respect you withdrawing the domestic abuse lie
Afghan, Eritrean, and Syrian migrants commit sexual offences at 3 times the rate British people do.
I suggest you read Reforms manifesto before claiming their only policy is to stop the boats.
These boats have to be stopped, allowing unvettted migrants to flood into the country is insane. And the Bay of Pigs can ram their Nation of Sanctuary right up their Nat King.
Im afraid thats not borne out by offical statistics regarding serious crime involving violent/sexual/murder offences. Not my statistics - police/court statistics. over 80% of all sexual offences are committed by white british born males, which is hardly surprising considering that since 2018 the number of immigrants is officially 205,000 against a UK population of 69.5 million.
Ive read Reforms manifesto. Ive seen more believable stories in the Beano and Dandy.
There is no 'flood' of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country. I'd class it as a trickle, based on overall numbers since 2018 of 205,000 and a concern, but this country has bigger challenges and problems than the boats at this present moment in time.
Oh - and I wouldnt vote reform if you paid me £5 milllion pounds (that number sounds familiar). Their leader, apart from being a grifting twot, makes things up as he goes along. He criticised Burnham for abolishing the triple lock on pensions propoasl, conveiniently forgetting that he was in agreement with it a couple of years back. I wouldnt trust him, or his party, as far as I could throw him. Tories would the best of an admittedly poor bunch at present, even though they got us in deep shit over the last 14 years themselves, I believe they have learned from past mistakes. Liebour or Reform would be a disaster if elected at next election.
But hey, its all about opinions and I respect others even if I dont agree with them.
Pro rata illegal migrants offend at a much higher rate.
Tories are pro mass migration, legal and illegal. They just like Liebour are globalist shills.
And your verified, independent, statistically based source for that is..? Let me guess I saw it on X? One simple google search will prove that's incorrect. But dont let facts get in the way of your beliefs or whatever your echo chamber social media feed says.
The home secretary herself admitted today that every migrant woman who crosses on a dinghy is raped during the crossing , that in itself tells you the kind of individuals entering britain