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Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
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Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:15 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:20 pm
welshrarebit wrote:First point - I am never and will never be a labour voter. I am not left leaning. I rarely if ever agree with their policies.
That being said. If he can come in and not be a spiteful vindictive tit and stops trying to erode my liberties with complex unworkable policies ill be happy. I always thought he came across well as Mayor in manchester. No one is perfect. I just want a steady hand. Starmer is as far away from a strong leader trying his best for the people as he can get. He is a petty bureaucrat with zero empathy. He has unleashed philipson and reeves on us who have been so devisive and destructive.
Burnam will ultimately serve whatever time he wishes up to the point we are set to have an election. Its our system. I dont anticipate him doing a Rishi and calling an election before his policies kick in
Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:20 pm
Sven wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
Ned, you know the guy (Burnham), so your opinion is of value
I believe he will get ‘the job’ but I agree that he should call a general election within 12 months, at which point he will have had time to show the British public his direction of travel
The Labour Party berated the Tories for not doing similar in recent times, so it would be the right and fair thing to do
Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:22 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:34 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:welshrarebit wrote:First point - I am never and will never be a labour voter. I am not left leaning. I rarely if ever agree with their policies.
That being said. If he can come in and not be a spiteful vindictive tit and stops trying to erode my liberties with complex unworkable policies ill be happy. I always thought he came across well as Mayor in manchester. No one is perfect. I just want a steady hand. Starmer is as far away from a strong leader trying his best for the people as he can get. He is a petty bureaucrat with zero empathy. He has unleashed philipson and reeves on us who have been so devisive and destructive.
Burnam will ultimately serve whatever time he wishes up to the point we are set to have an election. Its our system. I dont anticipate him doing a Rishi and calling an election before his policies kick in
A fair response. Can accept people not liking a party or a person but your reply is propositionate, unlike just writing things off.
This is the information I've been given and the fact that some media are now saying it suggests it's likely.
If the information is not correct then a bruising leadership contest is coming which everyone knows Andy will win.
But as I said, I hope Andy will go to the country within 12 months because that's the right thing to do. I said Sunak should have done that so I can't be a hypocrite.
Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:41 pm
welshrarebit wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:welshrarebit wrote:First point - I am never and will never be a labour voter. I am not left leaning. I rarely if ever agree with their policies.
That being said. If he can come in and not be a spiteful vindictive tit and stops trying to erode my liberties with complex unworkable policies ill be happy. I always thought he came across well as Mayor in manchester. No one is perfect. I just want a steady hand. Starmer is as far away from a strong leader trying his best for the people as he can get. He is a petty bureaucrat with zero empathy. He has unleashed philipson and reeves on us who have been so devisive and destructive.
Burnam will ultimately serve whatever time he wishes up to the point we are set to have an election. Its our system. I dont anticipate him doing a Rishi and calling an election before his policies kick in
A fair response. Can accept people not liking a party or a person but your reply is propositionate, unlike just writing things off.
This is the information I've been given and the fact that some media are now saying it suggests it's likely.
If the information is not correct then a bruising leadership contest is coming which everyone knows Andy will win.
But as I said, I hope Andy will go to the country within 12 months because that's the right thing to do. I said Sunak should have done that so I can't be a hypocrite.
Starmer strikes me as just the type of person that would want a bruising leadership contest. But he’s a god awful PM.
It’s a rather sad state of affairs that a Labour Party with the majority they had. Needed to get someone in that wasn’t an MP to have someone remotely capable to try and lead them.
From what I said I’d like to see - do you think I’ll
See it? Currently their answer to everything is tax more. Restrict more. Regulate more. They are woefully out of their depth.
I just want to be left alone and not treated like Rachel reeves personal bank account
Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:44 pm
M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
I will leave the party if he is just given the leadership without a fair contest.
I voted for Starmer as leader and it appears my vote has been overruled by the MPs parachuting and installing Burnham.
Sun Jun 21, 2026 12:07 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
I will leave the party if he is just given the leadership without a fair contest.
I voted for Starmer as leader and it appears my vote has been overruled by the MPs parachuting and installing Burnham.
I also voted for Starmer in 2020, I'll admit that. I also voted for Andy in 2010 and 2015, but we lost.
I want him to leave with any dignity he has left within the party.
Unfortunately the PM has shown himself to be an ineffectual leader. We need a coronation of Andy and a GE within 12 months.
Sun Jun 21, 2026 12:22 am
M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
I will leave the party if he is just given the leadership without a fair contest.
I voted for Starmer as leader and it appears my vote has been overruled by the MPs parachuting and installing Burnham.
I also voted for Starmer in 2020, I'll admit that. I also voted for Andy in 2010 and 2015, but we lost.
I want him to leave with any dignity he has left within the party.
Unfortunately the PM has shown himself to be an ineffectual leader. We need a coronation of Andy and a GE within 12 months.
I think that the way Burnham has handled himself has been an absolute disgrace and blindingly egotistical.
The amount of times in the run up to the by-election that he said one thing that he thought people wanted to hear to then quickly u-turn on it within hours was shameful.
The fact you were able to vote for him in 2010, 2015 and now he’s again running for leader shows everything about his blind ambition to be PM.
I used to like him, but being jokingly crowned “King in the North” has clearly gotten to his head and now he’s thrown the party into chaos with his self serving entitlement.
It will be an absolute disgrace to the Party if he is installed as leader without a proper leadership contest and as previously said I will be cancelling my membership immediately if it happens.
Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:18 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
I will leave the party if he is just given the leadership without a fair contest.
I voted for Starmer as leader and it appears my vote has been overruled by the MPs parachuting and installing Burnham.
I also voted for Starmer in 2020, I'll admit that. I also voted for Andy in 2010 and 2015, but we lost.
I want him to leave with any dignity he has left within the party.
Unfortunately the PM has shown himself to be an ineffectual leader. We need a coronation of Andy and a GE within 12 months.
I think that the way Burnham has handled himself has been an absolute disgrace and blindingly egotistical.
The amount of times in the run up to the by-election that he said one thing that he thought people wanted to hear to then quickly u-turn on it within hours was shameful.
The fact you were able to vote for him in 2010, 2015 and now he’s again running for leader shows everything about his blind ambition to be PM.
I used to like him, but being jokingly crowned “King in the North” has clearly gotten to his head and now he’s thrown the party into chaos with his self serving entitlement.
It will be an absolute disgrace to the Party if he is installed as leader without a proper leadership contest and as previously said I will be cancelling my membership immediately if it happens.
I am shocked that you (assuming a Labour voter by your comments, apologies if not) can say that.
Andy has fought for injustices over so many years.
He was the one who effectively got the response needed from Hillsborough.
He fought for his community in COVID.
I would suggest you're the one that's blind, ignoring that being Labour is all about helping communities - exactly what Andy has done.
Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:44 am
Sun Jun 21, 2026 8:01 am
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:It’s a disgrace he can walk into the job with out there being a general election.
Ok, my opinion as someone relatively close to Andy:
I don't want a contest. It's pointless, Andy would storm it. I want him to just be installed as leader.
But he should call a general election within 12 months. I have also said this to other Andy supporters.
I will leave the party if he is just given the leadership without a fair contest.
I voted for Starmer as leader and it appears my vote has been overruled by the MPs parachuting and installing Burnham.
I also voted for Starmer in 2020, I'll admit that. I also voted for Andy in 2010 and 2015, but we lost.
I want him to leave with any dignity he has left within the party.
Unfortunately the PM has shown himself to be an ineffectual leader. We need a coronation of Andy and a GE within 12 months.
I think that the way Burnham has handled himself has been an absolute disgrace and blindingly egotistical.
The amount of times in the run up to the by-election that he said one thing that he thought people wanted to hear to then quickly u-turn on it within hours was shameful.
The fact you were able to vote for him in 2010, 2015 and now he’s again running for leader shows everything about his blind ambition to be PM.
I used to like him, but being jokingly crowned “King in the North” has clearly gotten to his head and now he’s thrown the party into chaos with his self serving entitlement.
It will be an absolute disgrace to the Party if he is installed as leader without a proper leadership contest and as previously said I will be cancelling my membership immediately if it happens.
I am shocked that you (assuming a Labour voter by your comments, apologies if not) can say that.
Andy has fought for injustices over so many years.
He was the one who effectively got the response needed from Hillsborough.
He fought for his community in COVID.
I would suggest you're the one that's blind, ignoring that being Labour is all about helping communities - exactly what Andy has done.
How exactly did he fight for his community in COVID.
Did he support those who said it was a lab leak, or did he echo the “you can’t say that because it’s racist” narrative. Is he going to go after those public sector parasites who turned a blind eye to the industrial scale rape of vulnerable British girls.
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brickyblue wrote:If this man becomes pm we are all doomed in this country if he goes harder to the left with woke ideology and indoctrination into schools and universities and open boarders with more multiculturalism them my country as i know it over my 53 years will be gone no more .
We will all live in a society of socialism which leads to communism and it doesn't work.
This guy is out for himself we have a general election soon as the leadership has been decided in the labour party its the fair right and just thing to do to let the people decide who they want .
Afterall labour got in with a very low vote in the first palce.
His complete failure in the grooming gangs inquiry and he can defend it all he wants hes a failure he let down children.
If a government cant look out for our children they shouldn't be in power its a fundamental fact the we should expect our young to be cared for and protected.
Andy burnham doesn't care for makersfield he used the area that voted labour since 1983 to just to get into parliament.
That said under labour its impossible to run a business and free speech is under threat which means the very essence of our country is under threat.
Thats my personal opinion on this guy and the labour party .the old school left politics i have no problem with but new left politics is dangerous
Sun Jun 21, 2026 8:48 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I think people on here are wrong about two things.
First, Reform are not the unstoppable force they think. They have just lost a by-election that they really should have won.
Am I saying Labour would an election if it was tomorrow? Of course not, but let's not pretend Reform are miles ahead - they're not.
Also, immigration is not the top priority of most voters. It is, and always will be, how much money they have.
Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:11 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I think people on here are wrong about two things.
First, Reform are not the unstoppable force they think. They have just lost a by-election that they really should have won.
Am I saying Labour would an election if it was tomorrow? Of course not, but let's not pretend Reform are miles ahead - they're not.
Also, immigration is not the top priority of most voters. It is, and always will be, how much money they have.
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Sun Jun 21, 2026 10:50 am
MikeO76 wrote:So after two year of open borders, two-tier policing, spending billions on housing and clothing illegal immigrants who have invaded our country and betraying the very people of Britain who voted for him, two-tier Keir is finally going.
That should be excellent news....... however he will be replaced by someone who is part of the huge grooming gang cover up. White working class girls in Makerfield were raped and trafficked by asian monsters but when asked about this he called it "propaganda" and said campaigners for justice were creating "hate".
He was a minister of the home office when reports of abuse and rape by grooming gangs poured in and was also there when the home office shut down "Operation Augusta".
Even when mayor of Manchester he resisted a proper national enquiry for many years. Eventually he commissioned a local review, but the two men leading it resigned after being blocked from accessing crucial information........Hmmmmm!
Sun Jun 21, 2026 11:34 am