WAYNNE NASH HAVE A DAY OFF.

It would be good if he could have a day off, like the chelsea game we need an atmosphere like the chelsea game

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Glorified gardener what the hell does he know about running a stadium

Glorified gardener what the hell does he know about running a stadium

Jobsworth should be working at the egg stadium the worse segregation in the football league surely this needs addressing i have almost shook hands with opposition fans at other stadiums just a line of stewards ours looks rediclious at the stadium and on tv .

Glorified gardener what the hell does he know about running a stadium

Jobsworth should be working at the egg stadium the worse segregation in the football league surely this needs addressing i have almost shook hands with opposition fans at other stadiums just a line of stewards ours looks rediclious at the stadium and on tv .

No segregation if you look at the picture for the chelsea game.

Glorified gardener what the hell does he know about running a stadium

Jobsworth should be working at the egg stadium the worse segregation in the football league surely this needs addressing i have almost shook hands with opposition fans at other stadiums just a line of stewards ours looks rediclious at the stadium and on tv .

No segregation if you look at the picture for the chelsea game.

Whats nashes excuse for the biggest segregation in the football league when all other clubs have nothing like our segregation!.

Exactly
As if people are willing to get a ban these days

First job is to move the family end away from away fans.

It kills the atmosphere and isn’t right to have kids and families next to away fans.

Exactly
As if people are willing to get a ban these days

With all the cameras and lifetime bans whats his problem ,?like keir starmer letter of the law.

That’s his CV.

Been here for ages.

So my guess would be for a game like the Chelsea game they would need x amount of police. That size of the crowd easily covers the cost of those police. For normal games they put segregation in to prevent increased police costs at a time where the crowd is lower and there’s enough space to satisfactorily segregate both sets of fans.

Just an idea. Probably came about when a request went out to all section heads for ideas to cut costs.

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That’s his CV.

Been here for ages.

So my guess would be for a game like the Chelsea game they would need x amount of police. That size of the crowd easily covers the cost of those police. For normal games they put segregation in to prevent increased police costs at a time where the crowd is lower and there’s enough space to satisfactorily segregate both sets of fans.

Just an idea.

That's not right i have been to west brom, birmingham, etc just a line of stewards no police segragating fans.

Exactly all away games are like that now. Just a row of stewards between the fans .no dramas .

Exactly all away games are like that now. Just a row of stewards between the fans .no dramas .

Premier league arsenal segregation just a line of stewards both sides

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Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

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Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

Sven do you think it’s like the head stewards are salaried then? Or there has to be a percentage who are deemed as higher qualified due to being paid?

What a lovely debate. No kicking off or anything just a nice chat.

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

I did say if it's the case they are all on a wage fair enough.

At the end of the day the question was about segregation and the argument been put forward was that perhaps we have the big segregation was because of no need for paying and the cost of stewardship,

I would have thought that was a week reason for ours been the biggest segregation in the football league because it was financial reasons only
I would have suggested it was a power crazy individual in such a position to say how he would like things done, and perhaps an over reading of the rule book,
as a bedtime read.

Exactly all away games are like that now. Just a row of stewards between the fans .no dramas .

Premier league arsenal segregation just a line of stewards both sides

No point comparing our segregation to stadiums which are full like PL stadiums. We had segregation like that when it was full against Chelsea.

Because of the amount of empty seats in our stadium it makes sense from a cost point of view to have bigger segregation, as has been said by others.

117/118 open on Saturday because of the bigger crowd which sort of highlights that point.

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

I did say if it's the case they are all on a wage fair enough.

At the end of the day the question was about segregation and the argument been put forward was that perhaps we have the big segregation was because of no need for paying and the cost of stewardship,

I would have thought that was a week reason for ours been the biggest segregation in the football league because it was financial reasons only
I would have suggested it was a power crazy individual in such a position to say how he would like things done, and perhaps an over reading of the rule book,
as a bedtime read.

Monty, I agree on all of that. My only point was that our stewards are not salaried and earn a low hourly rate for the work they do. It’s the same at most venues and I should have added that a percentage of ‘holiday’ pay is added to their basic but it doesn’t amount to much

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

I did say if it's the case they are all on a wage fair enough.

At the end of the day the question was about segregation and the argument been put forward was that perhaps we have the big segregation was because of no need for paying and the cost of stewardship,

I would have thought that was a week reason for ours been the biggest segregation in the football league because it was financial reasons only
I would have suggested it was a power crazy individual in such a position to say how he would like things done, and perhaps an over reading of the rule book,
as a bedtime read.

Monty, I agree on all of that. My only point was that our stewards are not salaried and earn a low hourly rate for the work they do. It’s the same at most venues and I should have added that a percentage of ‘holiday’ pay is added to their basic but it doesn’t amount to much

No bother at all
Glad I still work for myself poor buggers on that wage .
"My take home pay won' t take me home"

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

Sven do you think it’s like the head stewards are salaried then? Or there has to be a percentage who are deemed as higher qualified due to being paid?

What a lovely debate. No kicking off or anything just a nice chat.

My understanding is that the very few at the top are salaried, but I’m thinking they would be ‘Stadium Managers’ rather than ‘Senior Stewards’ and would include the likes of Wayne Nash and the Chief Safety Officer

Match stewards at Cardiff City FC (and other venues) work on an hourly basis (often referred to as a ‘zero hours contract’), with reported pay rates around £11 per hour for match-day duties rather than a fixed, salaried, full-time position

Any senior and/or supervisory roles that exist are also part-time or casual (zero-hours) rather than traditional annual salaries

Put simply, no work, no pay for anyone other that the official club employees like Wayne Nash and certain (unknown to me) others

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

I did say if it's the case they are all on a wage fair enough.

At the end of the day the question was about segregation and the argument been put forward was that perhaps we have the big segregation was because of no need for paying and the cost of stewardship,

I would have thought that was a week reason for ours been the biggest segregation in the football league because it was financial reasons only
I would have suggested it was a power crazy individual in such a position to say how he would like things done, and perhaps an over reading of the rule book,
as a bedtime read.

Monty, I agree on all of that. My only point was that our stewards are not salaried and earn a low hourly rate for the work they do. It’s the same at most venues and I should have added that a percentage of ‘holiday’ pay is added to their basic but it doesn’t amount to much

No bother at all
Glad I still work for myself poor buggers on that wage .
"My take home pay won' t take me home"

You’re not wrong on that point! I certainly wouldn’t be a steward at the CCS!

117 Open in Ninian Stand

Stewarding / policing costs I should have put.

If the stadium is used for segregation they won’t need those stewards.

Has to be financially motivated. As has been said it doesn’t happen for the big games when they can sell every ticket

A lot of the stewards are voluntary

Is that genuine because I can’t see anything online that supports that.

It indicates they are quite well paid if anything.

Fair enough if that's the case but are all stewards on a wage?

Monty, that isn’t correct for the vast (95%+) of stewards at the CCS

The information provided assumes all stewards are ‘salaried’, which they 100% are not; although the absolute upper echelons might be

I know a lot of Bluebird stewards, all of whom are indeed ‘volunteers’ but receive an ‘hourly rate’ for working games

As such, let’s assume they work 6 hours (likely less) every League One game this season(forgetting the few ‘cup’ games
and possibly internationals too), they will earn the following…

23 x games x 6 hours worked @ £11 per hour (a bit more for Supervisory roles) = £1518 (less appropriate taxes)

That’s not a lot per annum in reality; particularly at a football ground, although a lot of our stewards also work at other stadiums and event venues, e.g. Principality Stadium, SWALEC Stadium, Motorpoint Arena, New Theatre, Cardiff Castle, etc.

I know of few (St. John’s Ambulance excepted) who work for nothing

Sven do you think it’s like the head stewards are salaried then? Or there has to be a percentage who are deemed as higher qualified due to being paid?

What a lovely debate. No kicking off or anything just a nice chat.

My understanding is that the very few at the top are salaried, but I’m thinking they would be ‘Stadium Managers’ rather than ‘Senior Stewards’ and would include the likes of Wayne Nash and the Chief Safety Officer

Match stewards at Cardiff City FC (and other venues) work on an hourly basis (often referred to as a ‘zero hours contract’), with reported pay rates around £11 per hour for match-day duties rather than a fixed, salaried, full-time position

Any senior and/or supervisory roles that exist are also part-time or casual (zero-hours) rather than traditional annual salaries

Put simply, no work, no pay for anyone other that the official club employees like Wayne Nash and certain (unknown to me) others

So stewards get paid and are not volunteers?

How does it work if they can’t get enough due to the zero hours aspect?

Perhaps we should return to to main topic of it been, Wayne Nash pushing his own personal idea of what security should be ,
i have not ever seen in any division, segregation like ours,

i would like to know why why we are so different to all other football league clubs in the uk

Perhaps we should return to to main topic of it been, Wayne Nash pushing his own personal idea of what security should be ,
i have not ever seen in any division, segregation like ours,

i would like to know why why we are so different to all other football league clubs in the uk

I think we have established its cost related.

When we have a full stadium the segregation is less.

Perhaps we should return to to main topic of it been, Wayne Nash pushing his own personal idea of what security should be ,
i have not ever seen in any division, segregation like ours,

i would like to know why why we are so different to all other football league clubs in the uk

I think we have established its cost related.

When we have a full stadium the segregation is less.

Do you have this rediclious segregation at your stadium ?

wigan as an example has lousy crowds but never has this segragation

Perhaps we should return to to main topic of it been, Wayne Nash pushing his own personal idea of what security should be ,
i have not ever seen in any division, segregation like ours,

i would like to know why why we are so different to all other football league clubs in the uk

I think we have established its cost related.

When we have a full stadium the segregation is less.

Do you have this rediclious segregation at your stadium ?

wigan as an example has lousy crowds but never has this segragation

Wigan and Oxford (if thats what you mean) don’t have the same reputation as Cardiff fans.

It’s been established it’s probably cost related.

Why don’t you take the advice you gave to Nash and have a day off?

You even started another thread about families stand ffs.