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" Wales lose to end automatic qualification hopes "

Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:00 am

FT: Wales 2-4 Belgium

Wales' hopes of qualifying automatically for the World Cup end.

Guaranteed to be in the play-offs because of the Nations League. Will finish 2nd if we beat Liechtenstein and North Macedonia next month.

Poor defending cost us tonight.


Updated


Teams:

Wales: Darlow; N.Williams, Cabango, Rodon, Davies; Ampadu, J.James; Brooks, Wilson, Thomas; Harris

Subs: T.King, A.Davies, Mepham, Koumas, Cullen, Johnson, Moore, R.Colwill, Dasilva, Kpakio, Sheehan, Broadhead





Belgium: Courtois; Meunier, Debast, Theate, De Cuyper; Raskin, Onana; Doku, De Bruyne, Trossard; De Ketelaere

Subs: Lammens, Sels, Mechele, Witsel, Openda, Lukebakio, De Winter, Fofana, Vanaken, Castagne, Seys, Batshuayi




Wales end this international window with a crucial World Cup qualifier against Belgium at Cardiff City Stadium on Monday.

Kick off is at 7.45pm. It is live on BBC One in Wales and BBC Three in the rest of the UK, with it also being available on S4C, BBC iPlayer and the BBC Sport website/app.

Wales know after Belgium's draw with North Macedonia that they will qualify for the World Cup with a win in this game as well as away at Liechtenstein and at home to North Macedonia.

Belgium won the reverse fixture 4-3 in June.

There are FIVE Cardiff City players in the squad:

Dylan Lawlor
Ronan Kpakio
Joel Colwill
Rubin Colwill
Isaak Davies

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:32 am

Absolutely Massive this game:
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Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Sun Oct 12, 2025 10:37 pm

World Cup qualifier: Wales v Belgium

Venue: Cardiff City Stadium Date: Monday, 13 October Kick-off: 19:45 BST

Coverage: Live on BBC One Wales, BBC3 and iPlayer, BBC Radio Wales, Radio Cymru, BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Sounds, the BBC Sport website and app, plus live text commentary.

Ben Davies is set to become Wales men's latest centurion with manager Craig Bellamy predicting a big future off the field for the "beyond impressive" Tottenham Hotspur defender.

The former Swansea City player's 100th cap will come when he leads Wales against Belgium in Monday's crucial World Cup qualifier against Belgium in Cardiff on Monday.

Davies, 32, will join former team-mates Gareth Bale, Chris Gunter and Wayne Hennessey in reaching that mark with Bale's 111-men's Wales cap record in Davies' sights.

Bellamy said: "I watched the game back against Canada (in September) and he (Davies) was so good. He was just amazing – every part of his game. As good as I've ever seen him play for Wales, that was my feeling.

"We can all agree that he's been a top player. But we are all very impressed with him as an individual, as a person.

"You can see when he does interviews. He's very impressive. He will be a top manager if he wants to be. Or he could become a director of football, or a CEO (chief executive officer).

"He's that level and beyond impressive as a person. His level of consistency – and his consistency of being available – is a credit to him."

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:27 pm

BBC Wales Sport on Instagram are reporting that Lawler, Isaak and Joel C have missed out on the matchday squad submitted to UEFA.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:36 pm

Apparently only rubin and kapakio make the match day squad, Lawlor picked up a slight knock in training

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:52 pm

Is Doku fit for Belgium? He absolutely destroyed us last time

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:26 pm

As was said earlier, only two Cardiff City players in the matchday squad - with both Ronan Kpakio and Rubin Colwill on the bench.

Dylan Lawlor, Joel Colwill and Isaak Davies miss out.


WALES STARTING 11

Karl Darlow
Neco Williams
Ben Davies
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Sorba Thomas
Ethan Ampadu
Jordan James
David Brooks
Harry Wilson
Mark Harris

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:27 pm

What does he see in Mark Harris, he is a poor footballer who runs around like a headless chicken

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:32 pm

Hopefully I'm proved wrong but banking on Mark Harris to score the very few chances we'll create is slightly concerning. Especially when we've got Brennan and Moore warming the bench. Harries works his socks off and is a Bellamy type player but we'll probably need to rely on keeping it tight and some big impact off the bench.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:36 pm

Blue since 1981 wrote:What does he see in Mark Harris, he is a poor footballer who runs around like a headless chicken


Agree with that but he scored a lot in League One and City fans have been raving about Rubin's form in League One.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:39 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:What does he see in Mark Harris, he is a poor footballer who runs around like a headless chicken


Agree with that but he scored a lot in League One and City fans have been raving about Rubin's form in League One.

I'd have brennan kiefer or even broadhead there before Harris I just don't think he has the ability to play that position in a game like tonight's

Hopefully he scores and shuts me right up

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:41 pm

I'm glad Johnson is not in the starting 11, good shout Bellamy :clap:

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:43 pm

Blue since 1981 wrote:What does he see in Mark Harris, he is a poor footballer who runs around like a headless chicken


You answered your own question.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:47 pm

A big ask to win this game tonight, looking at the Belgium team. I think a draw would be a good result based on our last few performances. Good luck to the boys :ayatollah:

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:48 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:I'm glad Johnson is not in the starting 11, good shout Bellamy :clap:

I’d rather him up top than Harris (who can’t hit a cows @rse with a shovel for Oxford.
Unless it’s a case of ‘run your boll0cks of for as long as possible and we’ll see where that gets us’.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:48 pm

Wales: Darlow; N.Williams, Cabango, Rodon, Davies; Ampadu, J.James; Brooks, Wilson, Thomas; Harris

Subs: T.King, A.Davies, Mepham, Koumas, Cullen, Johnson, Moore, R.Colwill, Dasilva, Kpakio, Sheehan, Broadhead





Belgium: Courtois; Meunier, Debast, Theate, De Cuyper; Raskin, Onana; Doku, De Bruyne, Trossard; De Ketelaere

Subs: Lammens, Sels, Mechele, Witsel, Openda, Lukebakio, De Winter, Fofana, Vanaken, Castagne, Seys, Batshuayi

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:50 pm

Mark Harris should not be on squad on his dreadful form. How is morre or Johnson not above him...incredible decision for such a big game

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:04 pm

boyo1927 wrote:Mark Harris should not be on squad on his dreadful form. How is morre or Johnson not above him...incredible decision for such a big game



Shocking decision and if he has a poor game and we lose comfortably then Bellamy will start to lose the goodwill he has built up. Harris is a league one standard striker and has never been prolific above this level.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:11 pm

We're all writing off Harris so it's guaranteed he scores the winner tonight :lol:

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium "

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:12 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:I'm glad Johnson is not in the starting 11, good shout Bellamy :clap:

I’d rather him up top than Harris (who can’t hit a cows @rse with a shovel for Oxford.
Unless it’s a case of ‘run your boll0cks of for as long as possible and we’ll see where that gets us’.


Maybe Harris is there to cause confusion for the Belgium defence Johnsons work rate is non existent and Moore is too slow. Perhaps bring them on at 60 mins with a different setup. Who knows, I'm sure Bellamy has a plan and hopefully a plan B and C should Harris fail to impact the game.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:34 pm

Good luck tonight, hope you win and qualify

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:35 pm

Seasider 63 wrote:Good luck tonight, hope you win and qualify


:thumbright:

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:38 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:We're all writing off Harris so it's guaranteed he scores the winner tonight :lol:


If that's what it takes to win then he's the worst player ever. Prove me wrong MH!

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:51 pm

I am amazed that Wilson is in the team tonight after his lack of effort against England. But …. Good start c’mon Cymru!!!

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:52 pm

Good first five minutes from Wales

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:55 pm

1-0 Wales

Joe Rodon

Deserved lead early on

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:01 pm

Wilson booked.

Means he's suspended for the away game against Liechtenstein.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:04 pm

Penalty to Belgium.

Ampadu handball.

Very harsh.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:05 pm

1-1.

De Bruyne scores the penalty.

Re: Match Thread " Wales v Belgium " Match Thread

Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:08 pm

For me, a terrible decision. Defeders would need to have their arms amputated to avoid unintentional handballs leading to penalties :banghead: :bluebird: