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It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in the

Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:39 am

In the Sale, regarding how Dalmans £38Mill loan to our Club will be paid off, this means the Sale will DEF Not be Completed before Our Season Starts.

BUT the buyers None of them have gone away and are all still wanting us.

As I said yesterday The South African has spoken to Dalman about if a deal can be reached.

Tan though intends to Trim Our Whole Club even more so that it can reach as low as a loss if £5Mill a year.

BBM, NO Money at all Available, But he knew this when he took the job, that’s why it took so long to find a Manager.

If a good offer for Salech comes in, he will be Sold to make it a Zero loss for Tan this season.



Dint forget Dalmans Consortium still want US.



VERY POSITIVE NOTE:

The South African has come this far and he 100% Still Wants is and So does Bales Consortium.
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Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:57 am

Nice summary that and I believe it all and no I don't have an alias called Rockyblue.

In fact that summary is logical. Tan is bringing our costs down to attract buyers. Believe it or not our potential is there and we have proved that by our 2 visits to the Premier where we hit 30,000 crowds. Once we are consistent in the Premier our crowds could go up to 40,000 who knows, the infrastructure is there. Sadly Vincent Tan is not the guy to take us there, that has been proven of late.

As for the present situation things have gone quiet. It feels like we on the verge of an announcement. However the cynic in me is saying more patience is required.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:00 am

Forever Blue wrote:In the Sale, regarding how Dalmans £38Mill loan to our Club will be paid off, this means the Sale will DEF Not be Completed before Our Season Starts.

BUT the buyers None of them have gone away and are all still wanting us.

As I said yesterday The South African has spoken to Dalman about if a deal can be reached.

Tan though intends to Trim Our Whole Club even more so that it can reach as low as a loss if £5Mill a year.

BBM, NO Money at all Available, But he knew this when he took the job, that’s why it took so long to find a Manager.

If a good offer for Salech comes in, he will be Sold to make it a Zero loss for Tan this season.



Dint forget Dalmans Consortium still want US.



VERY POSITIVE NOTE:

The South African has come this far and he 100% Still Wants is and So does Bales Consortium.



Annis

So much for leaving us in a better state ,if we loose salec this close to the start of the season that will be us on the back foot from the start.
We are already behind the likes of Plymouth Luton with players in.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:03 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Nice summary that and I believe it all and no I don't have an alias called Rockyblue.

In fact that summary is logical. Tan is bringing our costs down to attract buyers. Believe it or not our potential is there and we have proved that by our 2 visits to the Premier where we hit 30,000 crowds. Once we are consistent in the Premier our crowds could go up to 40,000 who knows, the infrastructure is there. Sadly Vincent Tan is not the guy to take us there, that has been proven of late.

As for the present situation things have gone quiet. It feels like we on the verge of an announcement. However the cynic in me is saying more patience is required.



Cheers, it’s all True Ian.

I can only update what’s happening.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:07 am

montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In the Sale, regarding how Dalmans £38Mill loan to our Club will be paid off, this means the Sale will DEF Not be Completed before Our Season Starts.

BUT the buyers None of them have gone away and are all still wanting us.

As I said yesterday The South African has spoken to Dalman about if a deal can be reached.

Tan though intends to Trim Our Whole Club even more so that it can reach as low as a loss if £5Mill a year.

BBM, NO Money at all Available, But he knew this when he took the job, that’s why it took so long to find a Manager.

If a good offer for Salech comes in, he will be Sold to make it a Zero loss for Tan this season.



Dint forget Dalmans Consortium still want US.



VERY POSITIVE NOTE:

The South African has come this far and he 100% Still Wants is and So does Bales Consortium.



Annis

So much for leaving us in a better state ,if we loose salec this close to the start of the season that will be us on the back foot from the start.
We are already behind the likes of Plymouth Luton with players in.




Monty,


From the first time I met him and He bullshitted Me on Our Identity, I’ve Never believed a word he has said.

Correct he’s not leaving us in a better state at all.

League 1 ( Div 3 ) , Squad Worth Virtually Worthless and Fans Divided.

Lower Crowds
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Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:14 am

annis does this mean BBM can't bring in any loans until the sale of the club ???

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:18 am

ORCHARD BLUEBIRD wrote:annis does this mean BBM can't bring in any loans until the sale of the club ???



YES DEF HE CAN:

Tan is continuing as if it might not be Sold, just cutting all costs and NO money at all for BBM.

He can Sell with Tans approval.

He can bring Free Agents in.

We got Over £300,000 for O’Dowda .

Nigel,

Until Contracts are exchanged Tan can do what he wants.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:23 am

Would any of the consortiums allow tan to asset strip? People saying won't spend because of sale but the same aplies to selling many millions of assets ! It's Like buying a house agree price but then take out bathroom kitchen cental heating to make money ........agree tan would like to sell players but if sale price agreed can't see any player of value going...not saying it won't happen anything tan does is unpredictable but wouldn't be happy if I was potential buyer of club.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:23 am

Its BAU, Tans BAU which is quite scary when you think about it.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:34 am

pembroke allan wrote:Would any of the consortiums allow tan to asset strip? People saying won't spend because of sale but the same aplies to selling many millions of assets ! It's Like buying a house agree price but then take out bathroom kitchen cental heating to make money ........agree tan would like to sell players but if sale price agreed can't see any player of value going...not saying it won't happen anything tan does is unpredictable but wouldn't be happy if I was potential buyer of club.



So far Tan has forced off Dead Wood and old tired players.

As the Deal has not been Finalised Tan will do what he wants.

We have not got that many players worth much.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:34 am

thanks for clearing that up annis the sooner TAN is gone the better TAN OUT

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:35 am

ORCHARD BLUEBIRD wrote:thanks for clearing that up annis the sooner TAN is gone the better TAN OUT



Your welcome Nigel,

In my lifetime I’ve been involved in more than 25 Big Business Sakes, not of course like the price of Cardiff City, but some very big ones.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:36 am

Players valuation contribute towards the value of the club. Any sales of assets will come off what new owners will pay for the club. Not doubting Tan would leave us in a worse state, which he is doing already. But he won’t financially benefit from selling Salech.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:40 am

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Would any of the consortiums allow tan to asset strip? People saying won't spend because of sale but the same aplies to selling many millions of assets ! It's Like buying a house agree price but then take out bathroom kitchen cental heating to make money ........agree tan would like to sell players but if sale price agreed can't see any player of value going...not saying it won't happen anything tan does is unpredictable but wouldn't be happy if I was potential buyer of club.



So far Tan has forced off Dead Wood and old tired players.

As the Deal has not been Finalised Tan will do what he wants.

We have not got that many players worth much.



Maybe not annis but we all agree Salech staying is essential to city's chances to get promoted new owners will know this same can be said of Colwill Robertson sell them and we won't be promoted and new owners will see this so will they want to invest even more money to replace them? Can see logic of not buying players but by same token selling is illogical for buyers... but tan is an idiot so let's hope he doesn't scupper deal .

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:50 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Would any of the consortiums allow tan to asset strip? People saying won't spend because of sale but the same aplies to selling many millions of assets ! It's Like buying a house agree price but then take out bathroom kitchen cental heating to make money ........agree tan would like to sell players but if sale price agreed can't see any player of value going...not saying it won't happen anything tan does is unpredictable but wouldn't be happy if I was potential buyer of club.



So far Tan has forced off Dead Wood and old tired players.

As the Deal has not been Finalised Tan will do what he wants.

We have not got that many players worth much.



Maybe not annis but we all agree Salech staying is essential to city's chances to get promoted new owners will know this same can be said of Colwill Robertson sell them and we won't be promoted and new owners will see this so will they want to invest even more money to replace them? Can see logic of not buying players but by same token selling is illogical for buyers... but tan is an idiot so let's hope he doesn't scupper deal .




I agree and always have Salech is our main player.

We will only do well if he stays.

But Tan wants our losses reduced and will do anything abd he is at the moment Totally in control.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:51 am

Neverred wrote:Players valuation contribute towards the value of the club. Any sales of assets will come off what new owners will pay for the club. Not doubting Tan would leave us in a worse state, which he is doing already. But he won’t financially benefit from selling Salech.



But if they don’t buy?

Tan wants his outgoings this season lower than low and you must have seen this has been happening every year now.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:52 am

Forever Blue wrote:In the Sale, regarding how Dalmans £38Mill loan to our Club will be paid off, this means the Sale will DEF Not be Completed before Our Season Starts.

BUT the buyers None of them have gone away and are all still wanting us.

As I said yesterday The South African has spoken to Dalman about if a deal can be reached.

Tan though intends to Trim Our Whole Club even more so that it can reach as low as a loss if £5Mill a year.

BBM, NO Money at all Available, But he knew this when he took the job, that’s why it took so long to find a Manager.

If a good offer for Salech comes in, he will be Sold to make it a Zero loss for Tan this season.



Dint forget Dalmans Consortium still want US.



VERY POSITIVE NOTE:

The South African has come this far and he 100% Still Wants is and So does Bales Consortium.


That’s definitely good to hear and reassuring that talks with the buyers are still ongoing. But the worrying part is exactly what a few of us feared — that BBM wasn’t necessarily picked for his ability, but because he was willing to take the job when others turned it down, perhaps they were thinking it just wasn’t feasible.

I’ve been hoping that the praise worcester gave him would be the BBM we’ve actually got — but what you’ve posted does raise a few concerns for me now.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:54 am

Forever Blue wrote:In the Sale, regarding how Dalmans £38Mill loan to our Club will be paid off, this means the Sale will DEF Not be Completed before Our Season Starts.

BUT the buyers None of them have gone away and are all still wanting us.

As I said yesterday The South African has spoken to Dalman about if a deal can be reached.

Tan though intends to Trim Our Whole Club even more so that it can reach as low as a loss if £5Mill a year.

BBM, NO Money at all Available, But he knew this when he took the job, that’s why it took so long to find a Manager.

If a good offer for Salech comes in, he will be Sold to make it a Zero loss for Tan this season.



Dint forget Dalmans Consortium still want US.



VERY POSITIVE NOTE:

The South African has come this far and he 100% Still Wants is and So does Bales Consortium.


That’s definitely good to hear and reassuring that talks with the buyers are still ongoing. But the worrying part is exactly what a few of us feared — that BBM wasn’t necessarily picked for his ability, but because he was willing to take the job when others turned it down, perhaps they were thinking it just wasn’t feasible.

I’ve been hoping that the praise worcester gave him would be the BBM we’ve actually got — but what you’ve posted does raise a few concerns for me now.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:15 am

So much for honour, a word he spouted many times when he was bothered to address us.

Broken promises, about the rebrand. And now about making us debt free and leaving us in a better place for the next owner.

The man is a liar. And has wasted millions because of his own narcissistic behaviour and deaf ears to good advice. bIt could have been so different after turning us back to blue.

And if Salech goes, the money wont be used for a replacement. The same squad who were underwhelming, no fight or bottle, conceding hatfuls a disgrace taking us down to the third tier with an inexperienced manager similar to Riza, are what we are left with.

I hope BBM and these players prove me wrong.

We have never needed a takeover as much as right now. We deserve so much better, particularly those of us who have stuck with it home and away.

TAN OUT!

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:37 am

pembroke allan wrote:Would any of the consortiums allow tan to asset strip? People saying won't spend because of sale but the same aplies to selling many millions of assets ! It's Like buying a house agree price but then take out bathroom kitchen cental heating to make money ........agree tan would like to sell players but if sale price agreed can't see any player of value going...not saying it won't happen anything tan does is unpredictable but wouldn't be happy if I was potential buyer of club.


If negotiations are ongoing, he’ll need to maintain a squad capable of pushing for promotion — both the potential buyers and Tan will want that in place in case the deal doesn’t go through. It’s already impacting our season, and it would be foolish to completely write it off at this stage. I don’t think that’s what he intends to do.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:42 am

Annis -,a question - as Salech is under contract can he refuse to be sold?

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:45 am

Why does Dalman get his money back? Not like he’s earnt it? He’s running the club and just look how badly we’ve done last few seasons. :!:
He got bulut in and that’s where we plummeted…..he has to take a hit too, maybe only getting it back if we get to the PL although I don’t see why he should prosper if it’s the new consortium that sorted the club out.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:50 am

If we sell Salech who is probably a £6 million asset which the club owns the club will be worth £6 million less to any prospective buyer

I can understand not wanting to pay transfer fees and wages to any new player that might come in but selling any of our players is not going to help Tan get the price he wants for the club

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:03 am

My feeling now is I hope we can stay up! Not get promoted but stay up.
Let's be honest, we don't have enough experience on or off the pitch. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:23 am

Every time I log on here I get more depressed, yes its not good but we really do need to start bigging ourselves up and putting out at least a bit of a positive spin, sometimes its like 12 years old name calling ffs, I'm a grown man got no hate for anyone, not getting into calling people names or owners, directors whoever names. Yes there are some valid points but do we have to stoop as low as the name calling, constant berating of individuals. If anyone does not agree with my view or opinion that's fine, I can take it. Im not going to call you a Tan lover or Tan hater or any other playground names.

Time to get behind the manager and the boys ready, what will be will be with a takeover and I for one will believe it once its all sign and done and whoever it is down to you, don't care if its Bale, some Saffer, even though there is no hard evidence or Snoop Doggs uncle Scooby Doo.

Start discussing our opponents, our cup chances, is the beer the same, your favourite match day routines et al.

Uppa fecking City
CTID

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:33 am

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Would any of the consortiums allow tan to asset strip? People saying won't spend because of sale but the same aplies to selling many millions of assets ! It's Like buying a house agree price but then take out bathroom kitchen cental heating to make money ........agree tan would like to sell players but if sale price agreed can't see any player of value going...not saying it won't happen anything tan does is unpredictable but wouldn't be happy if I was potential buyer of club.



So far Tan has forced off Dead Wood and old tired players.

As the Deal has not been Finalised Tan will do what he wants.

We have not got that many players worth much.



Maybe not annis but we all agree Salech staying is essential to city's chances to get promoted new owners will know this same can be said of Colwill Robertson sell them and we won't be promoted and new owners will see this so will they want to invest even more money to replace them? Can see logic of not buying players but by same token selling is illogical for buyers... but tan is an idiot so let's hope he doesn't scupper deal .




I agree and always have Salech is our main player.

We will only do well if he stays.

But Tan wants our losses reduced and will do anything abd he is at the moment Totally in control.



There's always January window to sell him and recoup his money if sale collapses now! Tan gone is what we want so let's hope dalman compromises as well from what you say thats only stumbling block but dalman is many th ings but regarding finances he'll do whats best for him so expect him to negotiate a deal and he'll stay at club in some capacity..

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:40 am

Brezza wrote:Annis -,a question - as Salech is under contract can he refuse to be sold?



Yes he’s under Contract and yes he can refuse to be sold or we can refuse to sell him either way.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:46 am

Think there are a few more that need off loading..
Hopefully we can hang on to Salech Robertson.. bring in a couple of free agents/ loanees .

we can’t have another situation where the owner sold players to line his own pockets.. like the Graham kavanagh situation.

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:51 am

Isn't a preferred bidder normally announced if multiple bidders are interested ( not sure its an efl condition) that seems to have gone out window ..

Re: It’s not all Negative: Yes due to the Stumbling block in

Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:54 am

pembroke allan wrote:Isn't a preferred bidder normally announced if multiple bidders are interested ( not sure its an efl condition) that seems to have gone out window ..



They have to tell the others, but don’t have to tell us.