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DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The Fans

Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:27 am

DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!!



The fans are entitled to know very clearly if Tan will continue to back the Club financially irrespective of our league status (Championship or 1st Division) which he always promised and even if we are forced to pay Nantes in full !!!


Tan has confirmed that he has already committed over £200 million . He also has to pay Dalman and other creditors as well as probably Nantes …. (these are very substantial sums).




On top of that we are also losing quite a bit of money on monthly basis in normal trading ….not to mention the ongoing court cases’ cost.


Significantly , Dalman has openly stated that the Club are unable to settle the Nantes money….if we have to, due to the club now having no money or any put aside as promised.

We also know that Tan’s family are not happy with the money he is throwing at the Club.

That is why we want to have assurances - right NOW - that Tan is firmly behind the Club NO MATTER WHAT !!!

Tan has always stated he would leave Cardiff City a better club than what he inherited, is that still the case?



DALMAN has a duty to us fans , the footballing world and creditors … to make such a statement in order to alley the justified fears of the fans !





I do not really know and am not qualified to confirm ….. but I believe that possibly as a Director , Dalman is required to himself have such assurances from Tan - otherwise he will either have to resign or to call for an insolvency administrator !?




In conclusion , we are in a bad way financially as well as on the pitch and we want assurances that our Club is safe financially.



All we fans are asking is for a very simple statement from Dalman : “Vincent Tan remains firmly behind the Club no matter what and how are we going to get out of this mess they have put us in.!!
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Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:29 am

WHOSE EMBARGO ? :


It appears that we are under two different embargoes that work differently . Is that the case ? How can they be lifted ?


We know that we are under a FIFA 3 window transfer embargo .


We also know that we are on an ‘open’ EFL embargo (CCFC’s name appears on their embargo web site).




We know that the EFL embargo can be lifted IF we pay Nantes ‘IN FULL’ meaning ALL three payments . However the very important question is :


“Can the FIFA embargo be lifted or is it cast in stone “? I am told that ….it can’t be lifted except if our present appeal to the Swiss Federal Court (SFC) succeeds . To succeed it means that the SFC must overturn both the FIFA ruling as well as the CAS court ruling …..



I believe that the chances of that succeeding are very low to none .



Naturally we fans are extremely concerned and the Club must explain the whole situation to us TRUTHFULLY !
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Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:48 am

Forever Blue wrote:DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!!



The fans are entitled to know very clearly if Tan will continue to back the Club financially irrespective of our league status (Championship or 1st Division) which he always promised and even if we are forced to pay Nantes in full !!!


Tan has confirmed that he has already committed over £200 million . He also has to pay Dalman and other creditors as well as probably Nantes …. (these are very substantial sums).




On top of that we are also losing quite a bit of money on monthly basis in normal trading ….not to mention the ongoing court cases’ cost.


Significantly , Dalman has openly stated that the Club are unable to settle the Nantes money….if we have to, due to the club now having no money or any put aside as promised.

We also know that Tan’s family are not happy with the money he is throwing at the Club.

That is why we want to have assurances - right NOW - that Tan is firmly behind the Club NO MATTER WHAT !!!

Tan has always stated he would leave Cardiff City a better club than what he inherited, is that still the case?



DALMAN has a duty to us fans , the footballing world and creditors … to make such a statement in order to alley the justified fears of the fans !





I do not really know and am not qualified to confirm ….. but I believe that possibly as a Director , Dalman is required to himself have such assurances from Tan - otherwise he will either have to resign or to call for an insolvency administrator !?




In conclusion , we are in a bad way financially as well as on the pitch and we want assurances that our Club is safe financially.



All we fans are asking is for a very simple statement from Dalman : “Vincent Tan remains firmly behind the Club no matter what and how are we going to get out of this mess they have put us in.!!

The club has already made a statement and tan himself in an Interview he said he continues to back the club financially.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:49 am

What we do need is clarification on the staff up of the embargo.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:14 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!!



The fans are entitled to know very clearly if Tan will continue to back the Club financially irrespective of our league status (Championship or 1st Division) which he always promised and even if we are forced to pay Nantes in full !!!


Tan has confirmed that he has already committed over £200 million . He also has to pay Dalman and other creditors as well as probably Nantes …. (these are very substantial sums).




On top of that we are also losing quite a bit of money on monthly basis in normal trading ….not to mention the ongoing court cases’ cost.


Significantly , Dalman has openly stated that the Club are unable to settle the Nantes money….if we have to, due to the club now having no money or any put aside as promised.

We also know that Tan’s family are not happy with the money he is throwing at the Club.

That is why we want to have assurances - right NOW - that Tan is firmly behind the Club NO MATTER WHAT !!!

Tan has always stated he would leave Cardiff City a better club than what he inherited, is that still the case?



DALMAN has a duty to us fans , the footballing world and creditors … to make such a statement in order to alley the justified fears of the fans !





I do not really know and am not qualified to confirm ….. but I believe that possibly as a Director , Dalman is required to himself have such assurances from Tan - otherwise he will either have to resign or to call for an insolvency administrator !?




In conclusion , we are in a bad way financially as well as on the pitch and we want assurances that our Club is safe financially.



All we fans are asking is for a very simple statement from Dalman : “Vincent Tan remains firmly behind the Club no matter what and how are we going to get out of this mess they have put us in.!!

The club has already made a statement and tan himself in an Interview he said he continues to back the club financially.



Wez,

You just can’t stop sticking up for this Hierarchy, it’s shocking and unbelievable, please start doing it on FB as well as here.

Our club is in a complete mess on and off the pitch , but for some reason you are obsessed with backing Tan & Dalman WOW

EVERYONE ELSE IS WORRIED EXCEPT YOU.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:15 am

If he came out with a statement i dont think anyone would believe him.
And after all, actions speak louder than words.
And we are run by 2 incompetent directors.
Pay the sala fee Tan

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:19 am

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Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:19 am

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!!



The fans are entitled to know very clearly if Tan will continue to back the Club financially irrespective of our league status (Championship or 1st Division) which he always promised and even if we are forced to pay Nantes in full !!!


Tan has confirmed that he has already committed over £200 million . He also has to pay Dalman and other creditors as well as probably Nantes …. (these are very substantial sums).




On top of that we are also losing quite a bit of money on monthly basis in normal trading ….not to mention the ongoing court cases’ cost.


Significantly , Dalman has openly stated that the Club are unable to settle the Nantes money….if we have to, due to the club now having no money or any put aside as promised.

We also know that Tan’s family are not happy with the money he is throwing at the Club.

That is why we want to have assurances - right NOW - that Tan is firmly behind the Club NO MATTER WHAT !!!

Tan has always stated he would leave Cardiff City a better club than what he inherited, is that still the case?



DALMAN has a duty to us fans , the footballing world and creditors … to make such a statement in order to alley the justified fears of the fans !





I do not really know and am not qualified to confirm ….. but I believe that possibly as a Director , Dalman is required to himself have such assurances from Tan - otherwise he will either have to resign or to call for an insolvency administrator !?




In conclusion , we are in a bad way financially as well as on the pitch and we want assurances that our Club is safe financially.



All we fans are asking is for a very simple statement from Dalman : “Vincent Tan remains firmly behind the Club no matter what and how are we going to get out of this mess they have put us in.!!

The club has already made a statement and tan himself in an Interview he said he continues to back the club financially.



Wez,

You just can’t stop sticking up for this Hierarchy, it’s shocking and unbelievable, please start doing it on FB as well as here.

Our club is in a complete mess on and off the pitch , but for some reason you are obsessed with backing Tan & Dalman WOW

EVERYONE ELSE IS WORRIED EXCEPT YOU.

It's not sticking up,its a fact that only a couple of weeks ago the club made a statement and tan done and interview,no other club in the world makes a statement every week or gives a running commentary to its fans ! .we get it you hate the board every day you say.i agree some sort of communication on the embargo of staffing up issue should be made to stop all the rumours.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:52 am

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Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:17 pm

Annis, how do you know his family aren't happy please.

Also don't think we will see a statement as both part timers are better at hiding than Sunak.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:23 pm

JulesK wrote:Annis, how do you know his family aren't happy please.

Also don't think we will see a statement as both part timers are better at hiding than Sunak.



Jules,

Tan himself stated it either in his last statement or the one just before.

Well they do do something, they all 100% read this forum :lol:

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:27 pm

Wez,

We will see as we are now going in to our 2nd week, let’s see all these new signings.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:36 pm

Our club is not worth what Tan wants. Seriously he would be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that.

So we have learnt over the last couple of months that our debt is not all owed to Tan but £30m is owed to Dalman. If Tan is to keep to his promise that he will leave us debt free or in good shape then I would like to know how he is going to do that.

I fear he is going to be around for a long long time as I believe if anything Tan can manage this debt after cutting our costs. If so the only question I will ask is what League will we be playing in.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:40 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Our club is not worth what Tan wants. Seriously he would be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that.

So we have learnt over the last couple of months that our debt is not all owed to Tan but £30m is owed to Dalman. If Tan is to keep to his promise that he will leave us debt free or in good shape then I would like to know how he is going to do that.

I fear he is going to be around for a long long time as I believe if anything Tan can manage this debt after cutting our costs. If so the only question I will ask is what League will we be playing in.



Ian,

At least £30mins to Dalman plus high interest and about £24mill to another person plus interest, plus we owe £20mill to FC Nantes, yet the usual suspects kept saying everything is alright , what’s the problem it’s all owed to Tan lol , most have suddenly disappeared as usual.

To be fair to Jules & Martin they have realised Tan needs to go ASAP.


We are in a terrible state on and off the pitch.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:44 pm

I've had alot of time for tan uptill now.
They've said they had money put aside at the beginning of the season.... Clearly that isn't the case.
He said he would leave us in better sted. The only positive is the majority of the debt is owed too him. But all that is happened is hes taken over a club who was year after year play offs or there abouts to be fighting to stay up 2 years in a row.
This is down to miss management from the top.
Also the fact we have a fifa ban.... The club is currently in a worse state now than when he took over.

He needs to either 1. Sell up 2. Invest some real money again and pay sala fee (then fight it with the insurance company etc) . There's no two ways about it.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:44 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Our club is not worth what Tan wants. Seriously he would be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that.

So we have learnt over the last couple of months that our debt is not all owed to Tan but £30m is owed to Dalman. If Tan is to keep to his promise that he will leave us debt free or in good shape then I would like to know how he is going to do that.

I fear he is going to be around for a long long time as I believe if anything Tan can manage this debt after cutting our costs. If so the only question I will ask is what League will we be playing in.
dalman was owed 30 its was 19 last accounts

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Our club is not worth what Tan wants. Seriously he would be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that.

So we have learnt over the last couple of months that our debt is not all owed to Tan but £30m is owed to Dalman. If Tan is to keep to his promise that he will leave us debt free or in good shape then I would like to know how he is going to do that.

I fear he is going to be around for a long long time as I believe if anything Tan can manage this debt after cutting our costs. If so the only question I will ask is what League will we be playing in.



Ian,

At least £30mins to Dalman plus high interest and about £24mill to another person plus interest, plus we owe £20mill to FC Nantes, yet the usual suspects kept saying everything is alright , what’s the problem it’s all owed to Tan lol , most have suddenly disappeared as usual.

To be fair to Jules & Martin they have realised Tan needs to go ASAP.


We are in a terrible state on and off the pitch.

That's not true

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Our club is not worth what Tan wants. Seriously he would be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that.

So we have learnt over the last couple of months that our debt is not all owed to Tan but £30m is owed to Dalman. If Tan is to keep to his promise that he will leave us debt free or in good shape then I would like to know how he is going to do that.

I fear he is going to be around for a long long time as I believe if anything Tan can manage this debt after cutting our costs. If so the only question I will ask is what League will we be playing in.



Ian,

At least £30mins to Dalman plus high interest and about £24mill to another person plus interest, plus we owe £20mill to FC Nantes, yet the usual suspects kept saying everything is alright , what’s the problem it’s all owed to Tan lol , most have suddenly disappeared as usual.

To be fair to Jules & Martin they have realised Tan needs to go ASAP.


We are in a terrible state on and off the pitch.

Keith only a couple of weeks ago confirmed the proper amounts stop exaggerating

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:53 pm

December 20th the club met with the supporters Trust, supporters club and other supporters it was put all over the Internet the minutes of the meetimg nothing has changed since then that are the facts! . This daily call for statements is a bit pathetic tbh and tiresome nothing more can be said , Keith Morgan had put a statement out over the embargo on there website today .

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:59 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Our club is not worth what Tan wants. Seriously he would be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that.

So we have learnt over the last couple of months that our debt is not all owed to Tan but £30m is owed to Dalman. If Tan is to keep to his promise that he will leave us debt free or in good shape then I would like to know how he is going to do that.

I fear he is going to be around for a long long time as I believe if anything Tan can manage this debt after cutting our costs. If so the only question I will ask is what League will we be playing in.



Ian,

At least £30mins to Dalman plus high interest and about £24mill to another person plus interest, plus we owe £20mill to FC Nantes, yet the usual suspects kept saying everything is alright , what’s the problem it’s all owed to Tan lol , most have suddenly disappeared as usual.

To be fair to Jules & Martin they have realised Tan needs to go ASAP.


We are in a terrible state on and off the pitch.

Keith only a couple of weeks ago confirmed the proper amounts stop exaggerating



This is bang up to date , Tan / Dalman backer, the accounts are last year.



I will state now it will be even more than this by the next accounts.

Then you will see move on lol

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:00 pm

wez1927 wrote:December 20th the club met with the supporters Trust, supporters club and other supporters it was put all over the Internet the minutes of the meetimg nothing has changed since then that are the facts! . This daily call for statements is a bit pathetic tbh and tiresome nothing more can be said , Keith Morgan had put a statement out over the embargo on there website today .



Not our club part of the Hierarchy your friends

A load of drivel was told to a few fans who don’t really represent our club in real numbers.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:04 pm

We don’t want Dalman / aka Boris / Williams

We want the truth and facts.

Plus Dalman did say the money was put aside for Sala.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis, how do you know his family aren't happy please.

Also don't think we will see a statement as both part timers are better at hiding than Sunak.



Jules,

Tan himself stated it either in his last statement or the one just before.

Well they do do something, they all 100% read this forum :lol:


So he has given statement then ? Also

I think some of these numbers are off the mark as how has debt jumped that much when we haven't even bought anyone?

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:46 pm

JulesK wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
JulesK wrote:Annis, how do you know his family aren't happy please.

Also don't think we will see a statement as both part timers are better at hiding than Sunak.



Jules,

Tan himself stated it either in his last statement or the one just before.

Well they do do something, they all 100% read this forum :lol:


So he has given statement then ? Also

I think some of these numbers are off the mark as how has debt jumped that much when we haven't even bought anyone?



Jules,


Search media Wales last year Tan said all this, but never says what’s really going on, what we really need to know.
Jules you must of read it, he said we are going for the play offs this season, then he wants to keep us in the Premiership for 10 years :lol: :lol:

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:59 pm

I think the board need to give clarity on the embargo.. are we allowed to sign loans/ free transfers if fall under the 23 squad number.
They also need to explain why they have put the football club in this position, surely they expected an embargo by not paying.. was that why they allowed SM to sign so many players in the summer.
Who will be in the Directors Box tomorrow? Choi, SB, will Dalman make an appearance… they have all gone quiet.
Need to be up front with the fans, and give us the whole true picture.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:22 pm

wez1927 wrote:December 20th the club met with the supporters Trust, supporters club and other supporters it was put all over the Internet the minutes of the meetimg nothing has changed since then that are the facts! . This daily call for statements is a bit pathetic tbh and tiresome nothing more can be said , Keith Morgan had put a statement out over the embargo on there website today .


The situation gets worse by the day, there's no time to sit on your laurels, before you know it, it will be too late, it may already be.

How bad must it get before you get worried?

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:34 pm

Bonner wrote:I think the board need to give clarity on the embargo.. are we allowed to sign loans/ free transfers if fall under the 23 squad number.
They also need to explain why they have put the football club in this position, surely they expected an embargo by not paying.. was that why they allowed SM to sign so many players in the summer.
Who will be in the Directors Box tomorrow? Choi, SB, will Dalman make an appearance… they have all gone quiet.
Need to be up front with the fans, and give us the whole true picture.



Exactly, but Wez does not want to hear how badly his mates have run our club and where sadly we are heading.

It’s our club and the truth hurts.

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:35 pm

Snaag wrote:
wez1927 wrote:December 20th the club met with the supporters Trust, supporters club and other supporters it was put all over the Internet the minutes of the meetimg nothing has changed since then that are the facts! . This daily call for statements is a bit pathetic tbh and tiresome nothing more can be said , Keith Morgan had put a statement out over the embargo on there website today .


The situation gets worse by the day, there's no time to sit on your laurels, before you know it, it will be too late, it may already be.

How bad must it get before you get worried?



Wez stands by this Hierarchy NO matter what and NO matter how much they hurt our club Wez will always stand up sadly for Tan & Dalman

Re: DALMAN TRUTHFUL STATEMENT! NOW!!! The F

Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:12 pm

We sent first team squad player Max Watters out on loan to League 1 Barnsley, Cardiff are still not allowed to bring a replacement in.