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Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:19 pm

hear talk that we have no plan. Do you honestly think I would have put in so much of my money if I had no plan? Do you think we are idiots?

"Do you think I would be putting in money every month, particularly during the pandemic, if I didn't want success?

"Yes I've made mistakes. Sometimes money has been wasted, mainly on players who cost way too much and didn't perform. Stupid transfers, ones our managers persuaded us to make. Wasted my money. But I'm still as enthusiastic as I was when I first took over.

"We just have a different way of doing things today, a business model I'm more comfortable with, and it's one more likely to enable us to sustain any success achieved. Younger players, who have good futures in the coming years, who have their best days ahead of them. Academy youngsters, I'm a great believer in bringing through our own home-grown talent. That's why I gave Steve Morison, our Academy boss, a chance as manager.

"What we're doing is the right way forward. I'm also hugely optimistic in my outlook, believe we can do things when others can't. The play-offs, for example. This league is so tight, three wins can suddenly take you right up there. Once in the play-offs, anything could happen. If I didn't have the drive to take this club back into the Premier League, I would have sold it yesterday.

"No, we have unfinished business here and that's what we need to focus upon. I'm not turning my back on the club."

Asked how much money he has invested into the Bluebirds, Tan won't give an exact figure.

"But it's more than £200million," he states. "Actually the figure is a bit embarrassing. It's too big."

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:47 pm

That’s not much of a plan though is it?

Written on the back of a fag packet comes to mind!!

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:53 pm

The plan appears to try and get promoted with minimal expenditure on players and reap rewards of premier league money this Time rather than invest in players pay himself back what hes put in if we get promoted? This as been done and tried in various ways and it can work! But only problem with plan it's just as likely end in relegation than promotion.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:31 pm

Can’t argue with that he’s still backing us doesn’t want to sell by the sound of things. Big thumbs up from me until someone better comes along.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Bigmarkw wrote:Can’t argue with that he’s still backing us doesn’t want to sell by the sound of things. Big thumbs up from me until someone better comes along.

Agree but I do think he needs to dip in his pocket for a couple of young hungry players .

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:38 pm

How is he backing us? Keeping us afloat for a future sale why he tries to get as much money back as possible before he departs. He knows relegation would cost him more money, so he will drip feed money in. That's Tans ambition imo. :bluescarf:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:39 pm

I feel that Tan needs to either release some more funds for a few players so we got a chance of the play offs or sell up .it's gone a bit stale maybe him coming on Tuesday will change his mind and he will release some funds .

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:27 pm

So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:36 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:48 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:

It's black and white in the accounts no dividends payments in 12 years ,10s of millions written off and 10s of millions debt to equity .

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top

Premier money wasted on wages and signings that quite frankly are shit ,acorn,Bradford, Murphy, just a few ,at least we got our money back on Bobby Reid thank god .

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:53 am

wez1927 wrote:
Bigmarkw wrote:Can’t argue with that he’s still backing us doesn’t want to sell by the sound of things. Big thumbs up from me until someone better comes along.

Agree but I do think he needs to dip in his pocket for a couple of young hungry players .


Agree and what he says makes sense.

He has said he’ll back the manager in January I think but it’s a difficult time to buy or loan players.
Fingers crossed for sure.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:53 am

wez1927 wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:

It's black and white in the accounts no dividends payments in 12 years ,10s of millions written off and 10s of millions debt to equity .


Wez, that doesn't matter lol.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:35 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:58 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:05 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.


Agree on the rebrand.

As for the court cases, how much would it have cost us if we hadn’t taken on those cases ? The total of them have yet to cost us what they would have if we hadn’t fought them. A net win I would suggest !

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:22 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:47 pm

If he wants to recoup any of his money, he needs to get a football man on the board, and take his advice, getting a club to the premier league and selling at the top price is a specialist job, and can't be done by a retail investor with no knowledge of football.

it can be done, he just needs an experienced expert that's done it before with clubs that were struggling.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:07 pm

Bluebina wrote:If he wants to recoup any of his money, he needs to get a football man on the board, and take his advice, getting a club to the premier league and selling at the top price is a specialist job, and can't be done by a retail investor with no knowledge of football.

it can be done, he just needs an experienced expert that's done it before with clubs that were struggling.

Agree but risdale was a football man :lol:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:50 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?



Tan has lost every case accept v Isaacs.

As to all the lawyers fees and costs etc they don’t on accounts get individualised for the public, I should know as I have companies.

The public only see summaries not individuals only the Tax man see’s it all.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:51 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?



Tan has lost every case accept v Isaacs.

As to all the lawyers fees and costs etc they don’t on accounts get individualised for the public, I should know as I have companies.

The public only see summaries not individuals only the Tax man see’s it all.


I’m not sure they have lost every case except Isaacs, but even if they have it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth taking the case.

Now I don’t know the figures involved but I know Sam didn’t get the full amount he was asking for. If Tan hadn’t contested it it would have cost him a whole lot more, even allowing for legal costs.

Name the cases where Tan has had to pay out the original sum he was sued for ?

Litigation is pretty much par for the course in big business for this very reason. Just a form of negotiation.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:45 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?



Tan has lost every case accept v Isaacs.

As to all the lawyers fees and costs etc they don’t on accounts get individualised for the public, I should know as I have companies.

The public only see summaries not individuals only the Tax man see’s it all.


I’m not sure they have lost every case except Isaacs, but even if they have it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth taking the case.

Now I don’t know the figures involved but I know Sam didn’t get the full amount he was asking for. If Tan hadn’t contested it it would have cost him a whole lot more, even allowing for legal costs.

Name the cases where Tan has had to pay out the original sum he was sued for ?

Litigation is pretty much par for the course in big business for this very reason. Just a form of negotiation.



They have lost all the other cases.

As to Sam, thanks to Tan being an idiot, Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:34 am

Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?



Tan has lost every case accept v Isaacs.

As to all the lawyers fees and costs etc they don’t on accounts get individualised for the public, I should know as I have companies.

The public only see summaries not individuals only the Tax man see’s it all.


I’m not sure they have lost every case except Isaacs, but even if they have it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth taking the case.

Now I don’t know the figures involved but I know Sam didn’t get the full amount he was asking for. If Tan hadn’t contested it it would have cost him a whole lot more, even allowing for legal costs.

Name the cases where Tan has had to pay out the original sum he was sued for ?

Litigation is pretty much par for the course in big business for this very reason. Just a form of negotiation.



They have lost all the other cases.

As to Sam, thanks to Tan being an idiot, Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.

Sam got around 25 million in total not the 60illion originally asked so tan won that one :lol:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:22 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?



Tan has lost every case accept v Isaacs.

As to all the lawyers fees and costs etc they don’t on accounts get individualised for the public, I should know as I have companies.

The public only see summaries not individuals only the Tax man see’s it all.


I’m not sure they have lost every case except Isaacs, but even if they have it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth taking the case.

Now I don’t know the figures involved but I know Sam didn’t get the full amount he was asking for. If Tan hadn’t contested it it would have cost him a whole lot more, even allowing for legal costs.

Name the cases where Tan has had to pay out the original sum he was sued for ?

Litigation is pretty much par for the course in big business for this very reason. Just a form of negotiation.



They have lost all the other cases.

As to Sam, thanks to Tan being an idiot, Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.

Sam got around 25 million in total not the 60illion originally asked so tan won that one :lol:



Sam only ever asked for £28mill including interest and got £30 mill .

Because Tan kept refusing to pay what he personally signed for.

You read to much media bullshit.

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:So he's put 200million in and had nothing back. Hard to believe :lol:



:lol:

He wasted that himself.

He’s forgotten to tell you what happened to all the Premier money he has also wasted.

Absolutely shocking management from the top, oops Tan is the top


But you know as well as anyone that when you get to the Prem you have to pay Prem wages. Luckily a lot of ours were on contracts that paid that level just whilst we were up there.

There won’t have been many on less than £20-25k per week and some were on more.

£20k per week is close to a million a year. Multiply that by a squad of 25 and that nearly a quarter of the Prem money.

People only ever look at fees paid for players but that pales into insignificance compared to the wage and signing in fee bill those signings generate.




Have you all forgotten the despicable rebrand, the amount of court cases and pay off of managers etc and 6 CEO’S these have cost us £mills upon £mills.
Tan has signed everything of and been a shambles in timing the business side of our club.

No one can deny that.

This millions you say cost the club in legal fees ,I can't find it anywhere in the accounts has tan paid this out of his own pocket ?



Tan has lost every case accept v Isaacs.

As to all the lawyers fees and costs etc they don’t on accounts get individualised for the public, I should know as I have companies.

The public only see summaries not individuals only the Tax man see’s it all.


I’m not sure they have lost every case except Isaacs, but even if they have it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth taking the case.

Now I don’t know the figures involved but I know Sam didn’t get the full amount he was asking for. If Tan hadn’t contested it it would have cost him a whole lot more, even allowing for legal costs.

Name the cases where Tan has had to pay out the original sum he was sued for ?

Litigation is pretty much par for the course in big business for this very reason. Just a form of negotiation.



They have lost all the other cases.

As to Sam, thanks to Tan being an idiot, Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.

Sam got around 25 million in total not the 60illion originally asked so tan won that one :lol:



Sam only ever asked for £28mill including interest and got £30 mill .

Because Tan kept refusing to pay what he personally signed for.

You read to much media bullshit.

I remember you saying that Sam was owed 60 million .

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:47 pm

They have lost all the other cases.

As to Sam, thanks to Tan being an idiot, Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.[/quote]



WEZ:
Sam got around 25 million in total not the 60illion originally asked so tan won that one :lol:[/quote]




Sam only ever asked for £28mill including interest and got £30 mill .

Because Tan kept refusing to pay what he personally signed for.

You read to much media bullshit.[/quote]





WEZ:
I remember you saying that Sam was owed 60 million .[/quote]







I 100% know he never has been owed that and you must of miss heard. :thumbright:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:00 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.


We can just thank our lucky stars it was only a noun and not a verb.

God knows how much Sam would have got for a doing word.

;) :thumbup:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:02 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Sam got all the money he asked for and interest , plus a £2mill noun when we got promoted to the Premier.


We can just thank our lucky stars it was only a noun and not a verb.

God knows how much Sam would have got for a doing word.

;) :thumbup:


Imagine how much he would have got for a whole sentence. :shock:

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:11 pm

Tan has a plan, joke of the year Wez.

Wez, please open your eyes, league tables dont lie

Re: Tan has a plan and already 200 million invested

Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Tan has a plan, joke of the year Wez.

Wez, please open your eyes, league tables dont lie


Tan has a plan but I would dread asking what it is.