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Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:53 pm

Absolutely abysmal tonight. Couldn’t trap a bag of cement. Who on earth deemed him worthy of a new contract????
Yes he tries hard and runs about but I’m sorry, I’ve been saying it for a while, nowhere near good enough.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:00 pm

Yes he tries but that’s it.

He gives everything but not a striker

Aged 24

Failed at Wrexham, Newport and Port Vale

70 appearances for Bluebirds 8 goals / 6 managers

He’s very cheap

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Yes he tries but that’s it.

He gives everything but not a striker

Aged 24

Failed at Wrexham, Newport and Port Vale

70 appearances for Bluebirds 8 goals / 6 managers

He’s very cheap


At 24, he’s not a youngster. Lower league at best.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:16 pm

Waiting for him to come good will see Halleys Comet reappear. He cannot possibly start another game.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:19 pm

dorsetblue wrote:Waiting for him to come good will see Halleys Comet reappear. He cannot possibly start another game.

I agree. It’s gotta be Etete to start, it’s all we have.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:32 pm

Its where we are though. Its quite a poor squad, lots of graft little finesse and it showed tonight against a stronger, bigger and far more skillful team

They all tried and gave their all.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Yes he tries but that’s it.

He gives everything but not a striker

Aged 24

Failed at Wrexham, Newport and Port Vale

70 appearances for Bluebirds 8 goals / 6 managers

He’s very cheap


Forget the cost he’s just not good enough !

The biggest thing is that at 24 the likelihood of him improving significantly is pretty low.

I won’t slag him off because he works his butt off.

I’m slightly disappointed that we’re not even giving Etete any sort of chance of developing. He hasn’t shown enough yet but at 20 years of age he does have plenty of time on his side and whilst Robinson is suspended he deserves more of a chance.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:45 pm

Never rated him never will tbh and that Etete looks like something upfront ive seen on a Sunday league pub team pitch but that's what we got at the minute. We even had a right go with watters coming on the last 4 mins odd to save the day who aint been seen for weeks on end untill tonight. Says it all :bluescarf:

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:55 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Waiting for him to come good will see Halleys Comet reappear. He cannot possibly start another game.

I agree. It’s gotta be Etete to start, it’s all we have.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm not sure exactly what Etete is but I'm absolutely certain what he isn't and that's a Championship standard footballer.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:22 pm

Harris, Watters and Etete need going in January. Harris and Watters have had enough chances.

I normally give players a chance after they've had a few starts but I'm sorry that Etete is an absolute donkey and will never make it at this level.

Terrible in the air, just as bad on the deck and looks knackered after 5 minutes.

Re: Mark Harris

Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:22 pm

Etete every time I see him I am left in shock what we have become. Frightening

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:00 am

You can add Sawyers to that list too. One of the laziest players I have seen in a city shirt - no need for him to take a shower after the game as he certainly didn't work up a sweat.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:54 am

davids wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Waiting for him to come good will see Halleys Comet reappear. He cannot possibly start another game.

I agree. It’s gotta be Etete to start, it’s all we have.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm not sure exactly what Etete is but I'm absolutely certain what he isn't and that's a Championship standard footballer.

So stick with Harris for Sunderland then?

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:20 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Yes he tries but that’s it.

He gives everything but not a striker

Aged 24

Failed at Wrexham, Newport and Port Vale

70 appearances for Bluebirds 8 goals / 6 managers

He’s very cheap


Forget the cost he’s just not good enough !

The biggest thing is that at 24 the likelihood of him improving significantly is pretty low.

I won’t slag him off because he works his butt off.

I’m slightly disappointed that we’re not even giving Etete any sort of chance of developing. He hasn’t shown enough yet but at 20 years of age he does have plenty of time on his side and whilst Robinson is suspended he deserves more of a chance.




That’s the point Harris is only here because he is so cheap, if he was good his wages would be higher and he would be at another club.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:30 am

Forever Blue wrote:Yes he tries but that’s it.

He gives everything but not a striker

Aged 24

Failed at Wrexham, Newport and Port Vale

70 appearances for Bluebirds 8 goals / 6 managers

He’s very cheap


Have to agree with everything you have said. I've said it a few times on here too. He offers little but work rate.

However, work rate should be the minimum expectation.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:51 am

I think we need to get over ourselves.

Watford had Joao Pedroa and Sarr there's between 30 and 50m quid there...

Their squad is valued at over 100m and ours around 30m, although I doubt we'd get close that value

Watford were the best team I've seen down the city this season so far.

It was a loss but a good performance given the quality of the opposition.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:56 am

Einstein wrote:I think we need to get over ourselves.

Watford had Joao Pedroa and Sarr there's between 30 and 50m quid there...

Their squad is valued at over 100m and ours around 30m, although I doubt we'd get close that value

Watford were the best team I've seen down the city this season so far.

It was a loss but a good performance given the quality of the opposition.


I think Harris has proven consistently, over a period of 5 years, that he's not good enough for this level. Not just based on last night's performance.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:11 am

davids wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Waiting for him to come good will see Halleys Comet reappear. He cannot possibly start another game.

I agree. It’s gotta be Etete to start, it’s all we have.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm not sure exactly what Etete is but I'm absolutely certain what he isn't and that's a Championship standard footballer.


I agree that Etete hasn’t shown much yet. But neither did Philogene until Saturday’s second half and last night he was a revelation.

I’m not convinced by Etete but I’m not going to write him off before he’s even started a game. After all, there are still people telling me Watters will come good !!!!!

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:48 am

People forgetting the 2 stunning goals he has scored this season ?? What other strikers have scored many goals in recent years ? He does work his socks off all over the pitch. He is forever running the ch annels & coming for the ball. Holds the ball up well too.
Why not support our own players fior a change ? & stop slagging them off. If you are sitting in the canton end you need to change seats now and again for an dlternative view.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:01 am

barry boy wrote:People forgetting the 2 stunning goals he has scored this season ?? What other strikers have scored many goals in recent years ? He does work his socks off all over the pitch. He is forever running the ch annels & coming for the ball. Holds the ball up well too.
Why not support our own players fior a change ? & stop slagging them off. If you are sitting in the canton end you need to change seats now and again for an dlternative view.

Sadly, it's become a 'sport' in itself for some on here, but I know the OP (and others) well and it is unusual for him to criticise Bluebird players...

Howwver, I don't agree that Mark Harris not Championship standard; I just don't think he is an out and out striker. He works hard but the system we play (or have done until recently) often leaves him isolated without a 'proper' striker to play off/to

Laat night wasn't his best afainst a nore than decent Watford side but the current alternatives don't appear ready, so (as said) let's embrace the whole team (as most do) when playing

That was a more than decent performance against an expensive side last night... :ayatollah:

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:28 am

Sven wrote:
barry boy wrote:People forgetting the 2 stunning goals he has scored this season ?? What other strikers have scored many goals in recent years ? He does work his socks off all over the pitch. He is forever running the ch annels & coming for the ball. Holds the ball up well too.
Why not support our own players fior a change ? & stop slagging them off. If you are sitting in the canton end you need to change seats now and again for an dlternative view.

Sadly, it's become a 'sport' in itself for some on here, but I know the OP (and others) well and it is unusual for him to criticise Bluebird players...

Howwver, I don't agree that Mark Harris not Championship standard; I just don't think he is an out and out striker. He works hard but the system we play (or have done until recently) often leaves him isolated without a 'proper' striker to play off/to

Laat night wasn't his best afainst a nore than decent Watford side but the current alternatives don't appear ready, so (as said) let's embrace the whole team (as most do) when playing

That was a more than decent performance against an expensive side last night... :ayatollah:



useful when have a partner upfront he is far to lightweight as central striker on his own... it was a useful performance by the team against a good side..... we looked relatively comfortable in way we played and yes they looked good st times going forward but what expect with players they have upfront .. but took two sloppy goals from corners to beat us .... not sure they would have won without those goals. Hudson's substitutions didnt make any sense etete fair enough but why when losing put watters on in injury time? Better to do with 10mins left especially when we were going forward a lot more looking for a goal.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:31 am

Nothing has changed.We needed 2 strikers and a decent centre back.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:24 pm

Remember when one of the biggest attributes was dying for the shirt, well he does. He is not a lone striker in the championship that’s not his fault.
The fact that we don’t really have an out and out championship striker is that of the previous manager and the financial constraints he was under. But we have a section of the fan base who want to play “ the right way” means we lack physical presence up top and in defence

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:09 pm

Sven wrote:
barry boy wrote:People forgetting the 2 stunning goals he has scored this season ?? What other strikers have scored many goals in recent years ? He does work his socks off all over the pitch. He is forever running the ch annels & coming for the ball. Holds the ball up well too.
Why not support our own players fior a change ? & stop slagging them off. If you are sitting in the canton end you need to change seats now and again for an dlternative view.

Sadly, it's become a 'sport' in itself for some on here, but I know the OP (and others) well and it is unusual for him to criticise Bluebird players...

Howwver, I don't agree that Mark Harris not Championship standard; I just don't think he is an out and out striker. He works hard but the system we play (or have done until recently) often leaves him isolated without a 'proper' striker to play off/to

Laat night wasn't his best afainst a nore than decent Watford side but the current alternatives don't appear ready, so (as said) let's embrace the whole team (as most do) when playing

That was a more than decent performance against an expensive side last night... :ayatollah:

I appreciate the comments Chris.
I wrote this in anger (and probably frustration) last night and you are right - I hate criticising our players but I’m so frustrated that he’s playing in the one position that (Robinson apart) the club hasn’t strengthened in.
Total frustration mate. The ‘joys’ of being a city fan for 45 years just came out.
I’ll be there for the next home game though, and the one after that… :bluebird: :bluescarf:

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:25 pm

Sven wrote:
barry boy wrote:People forgetting the 2 stunning goals he has scored this season ?? What other strikers have scored many goals in recent years ? He does work his socks off all over the pitch. He is forever running the ch annels & coming for the ball. Holds the ball up well too.
Why not support our own players fior a change ? & stop slagging them off. If you are sitting in the canton end you need to change seats now and again for an dlternative view.

Sadly, it's become a 'sport' in itself for some on here, but I know the OP (and others) well and it is unusual for him to criticise Bluebird players...

Howwver, I don't agree that Mark Harris not Championship standard; I just don't think he is an out and out striker. He works hard but the system we play (or have done until recently) often leaves him isolated without a 'proper' striker to play off/to

Laat night wasn't his best afainst a nore than decent Watford side but the current alternatives don't appear ready, so (as said) let's embrace the whole team (as most do) when playing

That was a more than decent performance against an expensive side last night... :ayatollah:


Two great posts here from Barry boy and Sven.

Mark Harris has done really well this season and the jibes on here that he’s only here because he’s cheap or he’s ‘league one at best’ I don’t agree with.

He’s certainly not an out and out striker or a lone striker but he’s being asked to play there because we have nobody else.

To me he’s just being made another scapegoat like some of our fans love to do.

Is he the answer to our first eleven in an ideal world? No he’s not but he’s doing a pretty good job in the circumstances.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:44 pm

To be fair to him most teams we been against play 3 CBs and hes had 2 on him

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:00 pm

Harris, Bagan and Watters unfortunately not good enough.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:47 pm

Harris would probably struggle to score goals at league two level always looks a bit ‘Welsh premier’ the way he hassles and works hard but looks so way below any striker you ever see us play against at this level.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:00 pm

Harris,Etete or Watters.Take your pick for Saturday.

Re: Mark Harris

Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:05 pm

stickywicket wrote:Harris,Etete or Watters.Take your pick for Saturday.


It has to be Etete, simply because he’s the youngest and had the least opportunity to develop or prove himself.

If he’s good enough great, if not then we know we have to look elsewhere and cut our losses. It’s very dangerous to judge a young player on a few minutes as a substitute.

Just look at how Philogene has changed peoples opinions in the space of a game and a half !