BREAKING: EMILIANO SALA

Tan & Co are appealing for the 3rd time against the decision regarding the verdict on who was the owners of Emiliano Sala

The case will be held in Switzerland and this is Tans final chance l.

Tan has already lost the two previous cases.

This is such a sad sad situation and has been heartbreaking from day one.




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This is it, finally will be over what ever the outcome.


At the moment including all the costs Tan has occurred it’s approx £20million.
It will rise even more.


The position is dire because if we lose again and don’t pay up, Nantes and FIFA will then be forced to put a winding up on order on City.

FIFA will also order a transfer embargo




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Just pay the f*cking fee. We're being dragged through the mud with no end in sight.

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Appalling situation, pay up now and let the man rest in peace and let his family grieve.

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

Would those be the facts that the courts have considered then or a different set that haven’t come to light yet ?

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

It wasn't the fans who agreed to buy him, it was the club. It wasn't the fans who found that the club owned the player, it was the courts, twice.

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

Because it's easy to say pay up when it's someone elses money, if it was theirs they would do the same

Fight it forever, if we lose sue all those inolved in the flight, Nante's, Nantes agent's, plane owner, Henderson's lot. We never had our player through no fault of our own, and went down as a result.

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

It wasn't the fans who agreed to buy him, it was the club. It wasn't the fans who found that the club owned the player, it was the courts, twice.

They might have been wrong, so we go to court to find out?

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

It wasn't the fans who agreed to buy him, it was the club. It wasn't the fans who found that the club owned the player, it was the courts, twice.

They might have been wrong, so we go to court to find out?

Correct Tan does for the 3rd time and last after being told twice Emiliano Sala was officially a Cardiff City player.

Most £££ that will have to be repaid by the club to the man contesting it if we lose again

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

It wasn't the fans who agreed to buy him, it was the club. It wasn't the fans who found that the club owned the player, it was the courts, twice.

They might have been wrong, so we go to court to find out?

Two courts have already confirmed he is our player. We literally shared photos of him signing a contract. It's just becoming a joke at this point.

With more money spent, our name is being further dragged through the mud.

As harsh as this sounds, if you ordered an item off Amazon and paid, selected how the item would be delivered, then the delivery method was changed against your will resulting in the transport breaking down and the item never arriving, would you still be happy to still pay the fee?

I think we would all demand a refund. None of this is the club's fault. The people who should pay up are the guilty individuals responsible, by not only arranging an alternative plane, but pressuring a colour blind, unqualified to fly at night pilot to take the flight in unsafe conditions.

We did our bit, we arranged a commercial flight and the guilty individuals responsible for going against our clubs transport arrangements caused this tragic event.

Why don't lot demanding the club pay up have a whip round then go off and learn some facts ffs.

Because it's easy to say pay up when it's someone elses money, if it was theirs they would do the same

Fight it forever, if we lose sue all those inolved in the flight, Nante's, Nantes agent's, plane owner, Henderson's lot. We never had our player through no fault of our own, and went down as a result.

This!

Most £££ that will have to be repaid by the club to the man contesting it if we lose again

Ian, the clubs money is Tan’s money so what does it matter. Tan owns us outright so it’s his money to lose if indeed he does lose.

As harsh as this sounds, if you ordered an item off Amazon and paid, selected how the item would be delivered, then the delivery method was changed against your will resulting in the transport breaking down and the item never arriving, would you still be happy to still pay the fee?

I think we would all demand a refund. None of this is the club's fault. The people who should pay up are the guilty individuals responsible, by not only arranging an alternative plane, but pressuring a colour blind, unqualified to fly at night pilot to take the flight in unsafe conditions.

We did our bit, we arranged a commercial flight and the guilty individuals responsible for going against our clubs transport arrangements caused this tragic event.

This!

As harsh as this sounds, if you ordered an item off Amazon and paid, selected how the item would be delivered, then the delivery method was changed against your will resulting in the transport breaking down and the item never arriving, would you still be happy to still pay the fee?

I think we would all demand a refund. None of this is the club's fault. The people who should pay up are the guilty individuals responsible, by not only arranging an alternative plane, but pressuring a colour blind, unqualified to fly at night pilot to take the flight in unsafe conditions.

We did our bit, we arranged a commercial flight and the guilty individuals responsible for going against our clubs transport arrangements caused this tragic event.

Totally agree ,the wfa 100% jumped the gun when they registered him too ,the contract was illegal and he couldn't sign a new one sadly

As heartbreaking as the death of Emiliano is, can we at least stop linking his families grief and his "Resting in Peace" with the debacle of the transfer fee.

The family may never move on but it will not be due to two businesses arguing over who is owed what.

That said, the club owe the money for the fee. Where their fight should be is over who is responsible for the deaths of two souls and (this sounds awful) the lose of the clubs expensive property.

Pay the money and then sue through a different court structure. As it is we are dealing with sports rules and governing bodies which do not fit the clubs fight.

As harsh as this sounds, if you ordered an item off Amazon and paid, selected how the item would be delivered, then the delivery method was changed against your will resulting in the transport breaking down and the item never arriving, would you still be happy to still pay the fee?

I think we would all demand a refund. None of this is the club's fault. The people who should pay up are the guilty individuals responsible, by not only arranging an alternative plane, but pressuring a colour blind, unqualified to fly at night pilot to take the flight in unsafe conditions.

We did our bit, we arranged a commercial flight and the guilty individuals responsible for going against our clubs transport arrangements caused this tragic event.

Totally agree ,the wfa 100% jumped the gun when they registered him too ,the contract was illegal and he couldn't sign a new one sadly

Correct wez

Everyone saying the club should just pay up, it's easy to spend someone else's money.
Was it tan who arranged the fatal flight, did he own the plane?
There are alot of people who are actually to blame in all this and it wasn't for these people's actions 2 deaths could certainly have been avoided.
None of these are Mr tan, who was the one putting his hand in his pocket to buy sala in the first place.
Take the human element out of it, if I bought a car and someone crashed it whilst delivering it to me I certainly wouldn't be paying for it.

Everyone saying the club should just pay up, it's easy to spend someone else's money.
Was it tan who arranged the fatal flight, did he own the plane?
There are alot of people who are actually to blame in all this and it wasn't for these people's actions 2 deaths could certainly have been avoided.
None of these are Mr tan, who was the one putting his hand in his pocket to buy sala in the first place.
Take the human element out of it, if I bought a car and someone crashed it whilst delivering it to me I certainly wouldn't be paying for it.

Also correct

There is certainly a case to be fought here, I think anyone in their right mind can see that. The case isn’t about ownership of the play anymore, its about fault….of which it certainly isn’t Cardiff’s. As a result they must be at least compensated for the transfer fee owed and some.

There is certainly a case to be fought here, I think anyone in their right mind can see that. The case isn’t about ownership of the play anymore, its about fault….of which it certainly isn’t Cardiff’s. As a result they must be at least compensated for the transfer fee owed and some.

Compensated by who though ? The guilty parties haven’t got millions of pounds of assets nor the insurance to cover ?

So glad that I'm not the only one who thinks we should keep fighting this.
As harsh as this might sound...
The club offered a flight that was turned down by ES. ( rip )

Tan & Co are appealing for the 3rd time against the decision regarding the verdict on who was the owners of Emiliano Sala

The case will be held in Switzerland and this is Tans final chance l.

Tan has already lost the two previous cases.

This is such a sad sad situation and has been heartbreaking from day one.




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This is it, finally will be over what ever the outcome.


At the moment including all the costs Tan has occurred it’s approx £20million.
It will rise even more.


The position is dire because if we lose again and don’t pay up, Nantes and FIFA will then be forced to put a winding up on order on City.

FIFA will also order a transfer embargo




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Annis , a few comments on this and in the most part we agree (that`s rare for us!!) about how poorly the club has dealt with the whole affair.

1. the club should never have entered into the deal to sign Emiliano Sala in the first place. The directors didn`t want to sign him as they have openly said that they considered the fee and wages being offered as being far too high. They knew that Willie McKay wasn't allowed under football rules to be involved in the transfer in any way whatsoever but Neil Warnock pushed it through with Vincent Tan behind their backs and they didn`t have the b*lls to stand up to him and insist the deal didn`t happen. McKay has said that he would benefit to the tune of £1.5m if the deal was completed so what was NW`s financial benefit from the deal? He had known McKay for years, had done transfers with him in the past (see the Joey Barton transfer Newcastle to QPR transfer deal) and knew full well that he shouldn`t have been involved in the deal. Question? Despite this, how many times did NW meet with WMcK at the stadium elsewhere or travel with him on a plane back and fore to France?

2. the club have the right to take the legal case to the Swiss Supreme Court but I am advised by legal people that have knowledge of such things that the only reason that that court would overturn the CAS decision is if they believe CAS to have made a fundamental legal error in their judgement. Seems pretty unlikely and CAS haven`t lost such a case many times in decades.

3.the club is already under a three window transfer embargo with FIFA as it took effect immediately after the CAS ruling was made. In the FIFA ruling in September 2019 the club had 45 days to pay the first transfer instalment of Euros 6m or the embargo came into force. Note that it only takes the payment of that first instalment to lift the embargo as the FIFA decision was made before the remaining instalments were payable.

4, Nantes are the creditor not FIFA so FIFA cannot wind our club up. Nantes would have to first of all demand payment of the remaining instalments and then take debt recovery actions - a winding up petition through the courts would take ages to be heard and it is not certain that a winding up order would be granted (CCFC could offer part payment over a period of time to defer a judge giving such an order).

5. CCFC could potentially have a claim in a civil court for the loss of Emiliano Sala against those responsible for his death as they lost an "asset". But who could they sue? The pilot is missing assumed dead, the pilot who booked him is not a man of financial means, and McKay didn`t directly book the plane (he is still bankrupt until next Summer anyway) and neither did Nantes. And they cannot claim through their player insurance policy as they have argued throughout that ES was never their asset and you can`t claim on insurance for something you don`t own.