What is the point?

Playing and keeping unless we want to be relegated next season:

We need proper strikers.



Glen Williams will promote them as our future / Dalman will make sure

Let’s be honest / brutal

MARL HARRIS 24 yrs old this year :failed at Newport / Wrexham
CARDIFF CITY 50 appearances / 6 goals / 5 differ Cardiff mangers / but very cheap
wages.

JANES COLLINS 32 yrs old this year: 30 appearances / 3 goals Cardiff City




MAX WATTERS aged 23 scored in lower lower non league & one season for Crawley 10 appearances for Cardiff 1 goal. Scored a few goals for MK Dons but mainly clubs line Grantham and Miklelover sports.



Isaak Davies 21 yrs old this yr , played 27 times for Cardiff 2 goals .

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Playing and keeping unless we want to be relegated next season:

We need proper strikers.



Glen Williams will promote them as our future / Dalman will make sure

Let’s be honest / brutal

MARL HARRIS 24 yrs old this year :failed at Newport / Wrexham
CARDIFF CITY 50 appearances / 6 goals / 5 differ Cardiff mangers / but very cheap
wages.

JANES COLLINS 32 yrs old this year: 30 appearances / 3 goals Cardiff City




MAX WATTERS aged 23 scored in lower lower non league & one season for Crawley 10 appearances for Cardiff 1 goal. Scored a few goals for MK Dons but mainly clubs line Grantham and Miklelover sports.



Isaak Davies 21 yrs old this yr , played 27 times for Cardiff 2 goals .

Tbf Harris and watters done ok today

Playing and keeping unless we want to be relegated next season:

We need proper strikers.



Glen Williams will promote them as our future / Dalman will make sure

Let’s be honest / brutal

MARL HARRIS 24 yrs old this year :failed at Newport / Wrexham
CARDIFF CITY 50 appearances / 6 goals / 5 differ Cardiff mangers / but very cheap
wages.

JANES COLLINS 32 yrs old this year: 30 appearances / 3 goals Cardiff City




MAX WATTERS aged 23 scored in lower lower non league & one season for Crawley 10 appearances for Cardiff 1 goal. Scored a few goals for MK Dons but mainly clubs line Grantham and Miklelover sports.



Isaak Davies 21 yrs old this yr , played 27 times for Cardiff 2 goals .

Tbf Harris and watters done ok today

Wez we played Brum beneath us and got beat by Blackpool 6–1

Did they score?

So you would keep them? Yes or No?

If we want to be relegated then Keep them

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We definitely need a proper striker , problem is they don’t come cheap.

Harris had chances today and his standard of finishing is extremely poor.

Can I also ask the 'point' of providing a number of players, who, have proved not to be of good enough standard, AND, players who cannot get into a team of other sub standard players are continually offered new terms??

Exactly what are the board trying to tell us? They are certainly not Cardiff Citys future, but, in my opinion, they are being given extended contracts to the loyal supporters "this is what you can expect off the board over the coming years "

And some say we should be lucky to have Tan???

I have been supporting The Bluebirds since 1950, and for a great deal of the time since, I have had a season ticket. For the first time in those 72 years, I have failed to see City win a home match in a whole season when I have been in attendance. Granted, I have only attended about ten matches for one reason or another this season and I have seen them draw three and lose seven. Today, they were a little unlucky not to have won, and once again they have had to put up with a very poor referee. However, the first half display was extremely poor, with players extremely static, and not making runs for each other. Why on earth Morison keeps dropping Colwill after a good display in his previous match, I have no idea. He and Vaulks made a huge difference in the second half, and players were running into open spaces for a change. When you look at Swansea over the last ten years or so and the good young Managers they have had, it makes you wonder what ambitions the City have in this respect with their recent appointments. Morison is young and Welsh, but what I have seen so far, with his chopping and changing every week, I have my doubts about him succeeding. I sincerely hope that I am wrong, as I like him as a person.
I am not sure at the moment, whether I will renew my season ticket for next season. In the last Premier league season, I moved from the grandstand to the top tier of the new stand, with seat on the half way line. The following season they closed that stand, and we were placed in the tier below in a seat opposite the penalty area. Next season, they are going to close that stand, and so I have to move again. At my age, I am reluctant to move again, and my only salvation would be for City to sign Bale - I live in hope!!!

Playing and keeping unless we want to be relegated next season:

We need proper strikers.



Glen Williams will promote them as our future / Dalman will make sure

Let’s be honest / brutal

MARL HARRIS 24 yrs old this year :failed at Newport / Wrexham
CARDIFF CITY 50 appearances / 6 goals / 5 differ Cardiff mangers / but very cheap
wages.

JANES COLLINS 32 yrs old this year: 30 appearances / 3 goals Cardiff City




MAX WATTERS aged 23 scored in lower lower non league & one season for Crawley 10 appearances for Cardiff 1 goal. Scored a few goals for MK Dons but mainly clubs line Grantham and Miklelover sports.



Isaak Davies 21 yrs old this yr , played 27 times for Cardiff 2 goals .

Tbf Harris and watters done ok today

Wez we played Brum beneath us and got beat by Blackpool 6–1

Did they score?

So you would keep them? Yes or No?

If we want to be relegated then Keep them

Probably wouldn't keep them .

I like Harris, intelligent player, always gets into some good positions, I just don't think he's going to make it here.

I do have high hopes from Watters for next season though.


These are strikers playing in a terrible team and they are in and out the side all the time. Hard to get any rhythm

Playing and keeping unless we want to be relegated next season:

We need proper strikers.



Glen Williams will promote them as our future / Dalman will make sure

Let’s be honest / brutal

MARL HARRIS 24 yrs old this year :failed at Newport / Wrexham
CARDIFF CITY 50 appearances / 6 goals / 5 differ Cardiff mangers / but very cheap
wages.

JANES COLLINS 32 yrs old this year: 30 appearances / 3 goals Cardiff City




MAX WATTERS aged 23 scored in lower lower non league & one season for Crawley 10 appearances for Cardiff 1 goal. Scored a few goals for MK Dons but mainly clubs line Grantham and Miklelover sports.



Isaak Davies 21 yrs old this yr , played 27 times for Cardiff 2 goals .

Thought Mark Harris did OK today except in front of goal where he snatched badly at two clear chances and there lies the problem no composure in front of goal. Watters also did well when he came on and with him there does look to be a player in there. I'd keep both Harris and Watters ahead of Collins has looked everything he threatened to be when we signed him below average.

Isaak Davies has hardly played at Championship level and for me there is plenty of improvement to come from him so I'm glad he is signed up for a couple of years.

The biggest issue in this squad is the strikers and SM has a HUGE job this summer getting quality goalscorers with no money. Good Luck Steve is all I can say.

I have been supporting The Bluebirds since 1950, and for a great deal of the time since, I have had a season ticket. For the first time in those 72 years, I have failed to see City win a home match in a whole season when I have been in attendance. Granted, I have only attended about ten matches for one reason or another this season and I have seen them draw three and lose seven. Today, they were a little unlucky not to have won, and once again they have had to put up with a very poor referee. However, the first half display was extremely poor, with players extremely static, and not making runs for each other. Why on earth Morison keeps dropping Colwill after a good display in his previous match, I have no idea. He and Vaulks made a huge difference in the second half, and players were running into open spaces for a change. When you look at Swansea over the last ten years or so and the good young Managers they have had, it makes you wonder what ambitions the City have in this respect with their recent appointments. Morison is young and Welsh, but what I have seen so far, with his chopping and changing every week, I have my doubts about him succeeding. I sincerely hope that I am wrong, as I like him as a person.
I am not sure at the moment, whether I will renew my season ticket for next season. In the last Premier league season, I moved from the grandstand to the top tier of the new stand, with seat on the half way line. The following season they closed that stand, and we were placed in the tier below in a seat opposite the penalty area. Next season, they are going to close that stand, and so I have to move again. At my age, I am reluctant to move again, and my only salvation would be for City to sign Bale - I live in hope!!!

The DNA of the team is to smack it long.

I think Harris can be a centre forward in a passing team. Colwells passing range would exploit Harris, Watters and Davies attributes better than Flinty's small down the middle.

I also think there is a player in Watters, he reminds me of one of those players who goes on a crazy run and it all falls into place.

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

Without a shadow of a doubt, this is the worst city team since we were promoted after beating QPR. In all our home matches in the Championship I always had hope and confidence that we could win (yes I know the Slade season runs this lot close).
I look at this team and always have 2 questions:
1. When will we concede?
2. Where are the goals going to come from?
Clean sheets seem to be a thing of the past
Goals ... don't get me fkn started

Morison has a ridiculously hard job to turn this around. Tan & the board are not helping.
Someone (wealthy!) please buy our capital club and give us something we long for

Remember everyone the league table or our results don’t lie.

It’s not like we’ve been robbed this season, we’ve actually been dire .

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

Today is not the past and this season is nit the last Allan, stop being foolish.

The table / the results don’t lie.

So Dalman sound bullshit and we after 12 yrs should believe him?

Let’s see the season ticket sales?

This season is the worst in 20 yrs and worst run of Results in 120yrs, open your eyes .


Answer be a cause you never do.

Do you rate these players ???


So do you think these striker will be scoring the goals we need next season to make the play -offs ?

I like Harris, intelligent player, always gets into some good positions, I just don't think he's going to make it here.

I do have high hopes from Watters for next season though.


These are strikers playing in a terrible team and they are in and out the side all the time. Hard to get any rhythm

Harris has been here years.

Harris , 5 managers and lower league clubs has failed with everyone.


Watters ?



So do you think these striker will be scoring the goals we need next season to make the play -offs ?

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

Today is not the past and this season is nit the last Allan, stop being foolish.

The table / the results don’t lie.

So Dalman sound bullshit and we after 12 yrs should believe him?

Let’s see the season ticket sales?

This season is the worst in 20 yrs and worst run of Results in 120yrs, open your eyes .


Answer be a cause you never do.

Do you rate these players ???


So do you think these striker will be scoring the goals we need next season to make the play -offs ?

What striker will we have annis next season answer that then I'll tell you if he will score the goals? Dont give a fck about tan Dalman ect I'm only interested in the team.. no dont rate half the players but then again they wont be here next season either.. .... yes we have worst position worst home record in history blah blah blah but that's this season but we didn't get relegated ... you bleat on about next season like others about how we will struggle ect but you tell me what the team will be that will struggle? Or are you basing your opinion on this seasons players THe ones that wont be here next season?. And I do answer you I did other day but you ignored my reply... but I have made it point not to answer your opinion directly for obvious reasons....... Instead I respond in general on a topic ...
Hope this answers your questions
.

Playing and keeping unless we want to be relegated next season:

We need proper strikers.



Glen Williams will promote them as our future / Dalman will make sure

Let’s be honest / brutal

MARL HARRIS 24 yrs old this year :failed at Newport / Wrexham
CARDIFF CITY 50 appearances / 6 goals / 5 differ Cardiff mangers / but very cheap
wages.

JANES COLLINS 32 yrs old this year: 30 appearances / 3 goals Cardiff City




MAX WATTERS aged 23 scored in lower lower non league & one season for Crawley 10 appearances for Cardiff 1 goal. Scored a few goals for MK Dons but mainly clubs line Grantham and Miklelover sports.



Isaak Davies 21 yrs old this yr , played 27 times for Cardiff 2 goals .

I agree with you about Harris and Watters, we would be seeing more from them by now if they were good enough for this level.

But I think you’re being a bit harsh on Isaak Davies. Not because I disagree about his goal return but because I don’t think he will end up as an out and out striker. I think he has the pace and work rate to be a really good wide player and he makes things happen.

I’m not too worried about strikers. I really believe Morison knows what he wants and a talented Premier youngster on loan would sort the issue out for us.

The Jacks have had Tammy Abraham, Brewster (?), Gallagher, etc., and that’s what the loan market is good for. You just have to use it right and, so far, Morison has been spot on there.

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

You dont know that yet, he hasnt been able to do it so far so it depends on what happens in the summer

1 win, 1 draw and 5 defeats in the last 7 games so not sure what your seeing that Im not.

Managing an U23 squad where you can dominate youngsters and get the best out of them is a good job for a certain person and Morrison obviously suits that.

Does his style and personality suit managing seasoned pros, I dont think it does. It might in the future as he evolves, learns and develops, are we the right club for that at the moment? Im not so sure.

Note, no rolls eyes emoji as im not 12 yesars old.

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

You dont know that yet, he hasnt been able to do it so far so it depends on what happens in the summer

1 win, 1 draw and 5 defeats in the last 7 games so not sure what your seeing that Im not.

Managing an U23 squad where you can dominate youngsters and get the best out of them is a good job for a certain person and Morrison obviously suits that.

Does his style and personality suit managing seasoned pros, I dont think it does. It might in the future as he evolves, learns and develops, are we the right club for that at the moment? Im not so sure.

Note, no rolls eyes emoji as im not 12 yesars old.

Why judge Morison on the last 7 games and not the ~25 previous games that saw us comfortably avoid relegation (something that was an almost certainty to some posters). Derby away was talked about as a relegation decider at one point yet we were safe arguably by February.

He’s got a team that doesn’t care. Half are out of contract or on loan and no they won’t be playing here next season. Add in the fact we’re safe and they’ve got zero motivation to put in effort. It’s shit but it’s understandable.

When it mattered, Morison and the team did their job. Let’s back him and the team to do the same next season and not write them off before the jobs even begun.

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

You dont know that yet, he hasnt been able to do it so far so it depends on what happens in the summer

1 win, 1 draw and 5 defeats in the last 7 games so not sure what your seeing that Im not.

Managing an U23 squad where you can dominate youngsters and get the best out of them is a good job for a certain person and Morrison obviously suits that.

Does his style and personality suit managing seasoned pros, I dont think it does. It might in the future as he evolves, learns and develops, are we the right club for that at the moment? Im not so sure.

Note, no rolls eyes emoji as im not 12 yesars old.

Why judge Morison on the last 7 games and not the ~25 previous games that saw us comfortably avoid relegation (something that was an almost certainty to some posters). Derby away was talked about as a relegation decider at one point yet we were safe arguably by February.

He’s got a team that doesn’t care. Half are out of contract or on loan and no they won’t be playing here next season. Add in the fact we’re safe and they’ve got zero motivation to put in effort. It’s shit but it’s understandable.

When it mattered, Morison and the team did their job. Let’s back him and the team to do the same next season and not write them off before the jobs even begun.

Agree ,hopefully morison has got his eye on some good talented players ,I trust him more than other managers to pick some gems up

Add Isaac Vassell- To the list

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

You dont know that yet, he hasnt been able to do it so far so it depends on what happens in the summer

1 win, 1 draw and 5 defeats in the last 7 games so not sure what your seeing that Im not.

Managing an U23 squad where you can dominate youngsters and get the best out of them is a good job for a certain person and Morrison obviously suits that.

Does his style and personality suit managing seasoned pros, I dont think it does. It might in the future as he evolves, learns and develops, are we the right club for that at the moment? Im not so sure.

Note, no rolls eyes emoji as im not 12 yesars old.

Why judge Morison on the last 7 games and not the ~25 previous games that saw us comfortably avoid relegation (something that was an almost certainty to some posters). Derby away was talked about as a relegation decider at one point yet we were safe arguably by February.

He’s got a team that doesn’t care. Half are out of contract or on loan and no they won’t be playing here next season. Add in the fact we’re safe and they’ve got zero motivation to put in effort. It’s shit but it’s understandable.

When it mattered, Morison and the team did their job. Let’s back him and the team to do the same next season and not write them off before the jobs even begun.

Because your only as good as your last result never mind 7 and 1 win in 7, 4 points out of 21 in the midst of overseeing the worst derby defeat in our history isnt good enough in my opinion.

He has a worse win percentgage than Mick McCarthy and Neil Harris.

Sorry if thats negative, I just dont rate him, as I said I think hes a good U23 manager cos he can dominate the youngters but the jury is out on him for me, of course ill support him but hes not for me, time will tell.

They are all mid to low Championship strikers which is obviously where we are and what we have become.

Its the worst squad we have had since we first came into the division and nobody is underperforming its just what they are and thats no disrespect to them its just a fact.

I am Cardiff City through and through and not a new boy, Iv seen worse times than this but I tip my hat to anyone who says they are feeling optimistic at the moment.

I'm optimistic purely on basis of what morison is trying to do with players and fact he can get in players that he knows will suit his style and is not hamstrung with unsuitable players? afterall he was successful running under 23s b 4 promoted to manager wasnt he? hes just dealing with older players now ..... but how can people base this season performances on what will happen next season when most of players this season will not be in team or at club..... we shouldn't live in the past but lots of our fans love living in past it seems.

Today is not the past and this season is nit the last Allan, stop being foolish.

The table / the results don’t lie.

So Dalman sound bullshit and we after 12 yrs should believe him?

Let’s see the season ticket sales?

This season is the worst in 20 yrs and worst run of Results in 120yrs, open your eyes .


Answer be a cause you never do.

Do you rate these players ???


So do you think these striker will be scoring the goals we need next season to make the play -offs ?

What striker will we have annis next season answer that then I'll tell you if he will score the goals? Dont give a fck about tan Dalman ect I'm only interested in the team.. no dont rate half the players but then again they wont be here next season either.. .... yes we have worst position worst home record in history blah blah blah but that's this season but we didn't get relegated ... you bleat on about next season like others about how we will struggle ect but you tell me what the team will be that will struggle? Or are you basing your opinion on this seasons players THe ones that wont be here next season?. And I do answer you I did other day but you ignored my reply... but I have made it point not to answer your opinion directly for obvious reasons....... Instead I respond in general on a topic ...
Hope this answers your questions
.

Harris, Collins , Watters I m basing it on what I have seen for myself and their pasts and leagues they’ve played in. The three for me are not good enough.

As to Isaak Davies, so far he has only been good with his speed , yes maybe he could still come good as he is young, I said the other day, maybe Davies should be a winger.


As to how we will Do next season , your right No one knows, but their is a pattern emerging with our managers , they save us and then fail badly the next season, let’s hope the pattern is broken .

Without a shadow of a doubt, this is the worst city team since we were promoted after beating QPR. In all our home matches in the Championship I always had hope and confidence that we could win (yes I know the Slade season runs this lot close).
I look at this team and always have 2 questions:
1. When will we concede?
2. Where are the goals going to come from?
Clean sheets seem to be a thing of the past
Goals ... don't get me fkn started

Morison has a ridiculously hard job to turn this around. Tan & the board are not helping.
Someone (wealthy!) please buy our capital club and give us something we long for

Not defending slade but he gave us a 11th and 8th place finish - might not have been good to watch but leaps more successful than this lot.

Though both Harris and Watters did quite well today I hope that both will not be here next season along with Collins. . Imo neither have what it takes to be a championship striker and Harris and Collins in particular has had enough chances to prove me wrong.
I also think that we need to work out the best position for Davies - maybe a loan away?
I’m looking forward to a complete overhaul.

Too be honest you can have the best strikers in the world but if you can't create chances for them then they ain't scoring the 20 goals a season that we need. Our build up play has been horrendous this season and our strikers have lived off scraps.The midfield has lacked creativity this season and if we're going to get our strikers scoring then we've got to keep possession better and stop looking for the long ball all the time.

You make a fair point, even Kiefer Moore was struggling with us and he will get goals in a good team.

I like Harris, intelligent player, always gets into some good positions, I just don't think he's going to make it here.

I do have high hopes from Watters for next season though.


These are strikers playing in a terrible team and they are in and out the side all the time. Hard to get any rhythm

Harris has been here years.

Harris , 5 managers and lower league clubs has failed with everyone.


Watters ?



So do you think these striker will be scoring the goals we need next season to make the play -offs ?

I do think watters can do it given the right circumstances yeah, it's easy to get on their backs when things are the way they are atm. But in a more settled, successful team, with a prolonged run of games I think he'd so ok.