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‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:52 pm

Vincent Tan is bringing in a £12,000 a week wage cap for next season for Steve Morison in the Championship.

It looks like Joe Ralls will be Cardiff’s highest earner next season in that reduced wage of £12,000 a week if he signs a new deal he has been offered.

So far NONE of the the other 10 players whose contracts expire have been offered a new one, Morrison, Flint, Smithies, Brown etc etc



Gone are the £20,000 a week players at Cardiff City.

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:56 pm

BRUTAL / STEVE MORISON

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:07 pm

Clubs like Fulham, Sheffield United , Bournemouth and many others WBA pay wages if £15,000-£35,000 a week and that will continue with many clubs next season.


Middlesbrough and Forest will continue to pay high wages.



But their are clubs like Luton who are only paying £10,000-£20,000 a week wages


Barnsley, Luton, Posh , Huddersfield will be paying low wages next season £10,000-£15,000 a week.


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Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:17 pm

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:19 pm

The problem with the finances:

By Paul Abbandonato Senior Sports Writer:


Tuesday 29th March 2022




Bale for Cardiff was mooted previously by the bookies, but the reality is it was never going to happen whilst he was on a £350,000 a week wage at Real Madrid.

That ends this June, whatever happens it's time for Bale to look elsewhere.

Cardiff can't compete financially with other clubs, particularly if they are bringing in a £12,000 a week wage cap as Vincent Tan gets to grips with the budget.

As I say, it would be for personal reasons rather than finance that Bale would want to come home.

However, there are still ways and means. A deal over the percentage on sale of replica shirts, which would doubtless hit record figures if Bale 11 was on the back. A promotion bonus, were Bale to take Cardiff into the Premier League.

Wouldn't a major Welsh company want to get on board a project like this and partially fund Bale's wages, in return for having its name associated with the Bale and Bluebirds brands - thus Wales too - and some promotional work?

On the surface Bale to Cardiff seems highly unlikely for someone who could command vast sums elsewhere. Then again, Bale is already a very very rich man and, as we see time and again with Wales, when it comes to football things other than money spur him on.
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Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:19 pm

That's the way I can see many clubs going.

Those clubs that have dropped from the Premier will have a big advantage over the rest of the clubs. Those clubs will be able to attract the better players therefore giving them a huge advantage. Even so there will be enough good players who will not make it to such clubs. Only time will tell if the gap increases between those that have dropped out of the Premier to those that are established in the Championship.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:29 pm

https://capology.com/uk/championship/salaries/ some of these wages are madness ,the bubble will eventually burst like Derby. Players will have to take a wage cut .

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:39 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:That's the way I can see many clubs going.

Those clubs that have dropped from the Premier will have a big advantage over the rest of the clubs. Those clubs will be able to attract the better players therefore giving them a huge advantage. Even so there will be enough good players who will not make it to such clubs. Only time will tell if the gap increases between those that have dropped out of the Premier to those that are established in the Championship.




Said this last season about relegated clubs being stronger than rest of league because they are keeping their squad and not getting rid of players in way other relegated teams did including us previously ...2/3 relegated teams are fighting
top 6 again so reducing chances of rest league getting promotion..... no coincidence that last season two relegated clubs were promoted at 1st attempt not happened before..... this summer transfer window will be about the ability of clubs to attract good high paid players at reduced wages....... this will start to be the norm in coming seasons.

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:41 pm

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:44 pm

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Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:59 pm

Could be another miserable season then with lack of ambition and the consequences
ever decreasing attendances
if tan things we can do everything on a shoestring he is just out to survive but no ambition to do anything else this statement could affect season ticket sales i thought tan might have been a bit more Cherrie after these court cases been sorted by next season
What a shame we have one hand tied behind our backs going into next season already.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:03 pm

Feel free to buy the club and put your own money in and set a wage cap of £45k a week

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:15 pm

Logie wrote:Feel free to buy the club and put your own money in and set a wage cap of £45k a week

That's Monty for you; no understanding of reality... :(

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:20 pm

LOGIE

Don' t know if you where replying to me?
If so i do my bit by a season ticket and i am not a multi millionare
and no one is suggesting a free for all as regards wages
but if you are one of the lowest paying club in the division you are not going to attract the best plus what has happened to the board coming out making statements about a push for promotion we don' t hear that anymore
My point was though was the lack of ambition because of finacial constraints been so low are going to be read by fans as no ambition which will effect attendances and season tickets
We all have finacial problems
but if you run and own a football club there is every likelyhood that money is going to be needed and possibly lost and you need a owner who has ambition for the club and i honestly think tan has lost interest in cardiff city and the board are no better.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:30 pm

SVEN

oh dear hear we go
Monty bashing
i don't confess unlike you to know everything but if you come out with a cap on wages statment before we have even finished this season it sets our stall out as to how the season is going to pan out and fans read into that or perhaps its just me but my cardiff mate has just said the same as me so 2 of us then
and i stated and agree wages should not get out of hand so what is so wrong with what i have said enlighten me with your never ending wisdom

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:31 pm

Not a fan of a specific cap on wages. No problem if that’s the average for the first team squad.

For instance if we paid two youngsters £6k that would allow us to pay a better player £24k for the same net outlay.

It will depend how strictly this is operated and what the impact is on loans , etc. As others have said, many Championship clubs will be taking these sort of measures in the summer.

I’ll reserve judgement until the end of the summer transfer window but at the moment I can’t say I’m wholly in favour of a strict individual wage cap. Surely the overall first team wage budget is the better way to manage this ?

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:45 pm

montyblue wrote:Could be another miserable season then with lack of ambition and the consequences
ever decreasing attendances
if tan things we can do everything on a shoestring he is just out to survive but no ambition to do anything else this statement could affect season ticket sales i thought tan might have been a bit more Cherrie after these court cases been sorted by next season
What a shame we have one hand tied behind our backs going into next season already.



If stories are true about ffp there will be clubs with both arms and feet tied up start next season.. so shoestring will look like a fortune for som clubs.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:17 pm

Do we really know it's set at £12k or is it speculation?

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:40 pm

It's not about money for bale though is it. He won't manage Saturday Tuesday Saturday but the reality is that's what he may need to do in the wirld Cup fingers crossed.
Cardiff may be the best place for him to try 90 mons Saturday 15 minute cameo Tuesday. This will benefit wales.
Bale could buy the club he may not be money motivated next year.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:47 pm

wez1927 wrote:https://capology.com/uk/championship/salaries/ some of these wages are madness ,the bubble will eventually burst like Derby. Players will have to take a wage cut .


If the figures quoted on there and the £12000 per week limit for next season are even remotely accurate then it would mean that Ralls would have to take a 50% cut in his current wages in order to stay.

I'm sure there would be any number of Championship clubs willing to pay him more than £12000 per week so we may end up losing all of our out of contract players at the end of this season.

Luton and Huddersfield have shown that you don't have to pay massive wages to be competitive but I am slightly concerned about the prospect of relying solely on cheap youngsters and loanees next season which seems to be the way the club is heading.

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:48 pm

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Mmmmm then we end up like Derby?

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:14 pm

NIBluebird wrote:Do we really know it's set at £12k or is it speculation?

Hopefully it's 12k for 20 players so a bit of wiggle room for a couple of special players

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:16 pm

To be honest I don't think any of this is written in stone.A good statement to make when your looking to offload the high earners.I think Morison will bring in decent enough players as he's already demonstrated.The bubble is bursting for a lot of clubs not just ours and I think there will be enough flexibility financially to make us more competitive than this season.

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Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:24 pm

montyblue wrote:SVEN

oh dear hear we go
Monty bashing
i don't confess unlike you to know everything but if you come out with a cap on wages statment before we have even finished this season it sets our stall out as to how the season is going to pan out and fans read into that or perhaps its just me but my cardiff mate has just said the same as me so 2 of us then
and i stated and agree wages should not get out of hand so what is so wrong with what i have said enlighten me with your never ending wisdom

MONTY

Tan Bashing...

Yes, here I go again. What do you expect when you don't consider your response with some ironic ignorance of your own statement

Clearly you don't know the situation but you have once again charged in

I'm playing Devil's Advocate here because I genuinely don't know the club's circumstances for next season any more than you do

But no ambition? :?

Let me ask you this...

Were we not told categorically that there would be no money available for this season under the previous manager?

Yet we managed to shell out for several loanees when push came to shove and our Championship status was seriously being challenged (in my book downto McCarthy's poor management and not his limited resources) and have been 'on the up' ever since

Maybe, just maybe, Steve Morison has told the owner that he is 'happy' to build his team around quality youth and is actually being 'backed' by Vincent Tan to do just that. With the influence of signings like Tommy Doyle, Cody Drameh and others already in the squad (Isaak Davies, Joel Bagan, Rubin Colwill, etc.) who is to say that approach is not the correct one and/or one that will work?

Certainly not you by the looks; but I have a little more faith in our manager to produce and I can see where giving promising youngsters an opportunity to prove themselves in a team that will likely bring them on will appeal to all concerned (ambitious young players, their 'mother' club and our hopefully our club)

Also, have we really had a (quote) "miserable season with dwindling crowds..."?

Certainly not in the latter part, where the temporary manager has changed the whole ethos of the club/squad/team and looks likely to get rid of some well overpaid 'deadwood' (who will miss Pack, Bacuna, Vassell, etc.?) before replacing them with people who will turn up and fight for the team and its support

IT CERTAINLY WORKED FOR WOLVES A FEW YEARS AGO!

You can accuse me of 'Monty bashing', if it gives you an excuse not to reply with anything constructive, but that isn't correct; you are either right or wrong in my world and I simply won't sit back and read the same people making the same uninformed comments, of which you make a fair few

Let's see what happens in the coming months, eh? It's going to be an interesting ride no matter what is said or done right now! :iroc:

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:30 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:That's the way I can see many clubs going.

Those clubs that have dropped from the Premier will have a big advantage over the rest of the clubs. Those clubs will be able to attract the better players therefore giving them a huge advantage. Even so there will be enough good players who will not make it to such clubs. Only time will tell if the gap increases between those that have dropped out of the Premier to those that are established in the Championship.

Agree; more than enough good players for a smart manager to pick up on reasonable wages and I think ours is one...! :thumbright:

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:57 pm

davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:https://capology.com/uk/championship/salaries/ some of these wages are madness ,the bubble will eventually burst like Derby. Players will have to take a wage cut .


If the figures quoted on there and the £12000 per week limit for next season are even remotely accurate then it would mean that Ralls would have to take a 50% cut in his current wages in order to stay.

I'm sure there would be any number of Championship clubs willing to pay him more than £12000 per week so we may end up losing all of our out of contract players at the end of this season.

Luton and Huddersfield have shown that you don't have to pay massive wages to be competitive but I am slightly concerned about the prospect of relying solely on cheap youngsters and loanees next season which seems to be the way the club is heading.




So 12k a week not enough I know let's pay whole squad 20k+ each as not to look cheap ...... how many complaints as there been on here about spending 20k+ a week on players not being worth it? As for next seasons recruiting it's a buyers market as the economic landscape as altered immeasurably since start of this season so let's see what happens before predicting outcome .....are you predicting club wont but anyone to replace out contract players but use 8 under 23 players as they're cheap?...all clubs have 4 or 5 loanees in squad why should city be different.. :roll:
As for rolls he is replaceable but do you think hes worth more than 12k a week

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:07 pm

I love it. Set a budget, now everyone knows where we stand. Fans are always asking for the club to be more open.

You may not like the quoted amount but you have to like being aware of what we have to play with.

Might I also say there is a good chance the private salary budget may not be as low as the publicly announced budget.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:16 pm

I do love this forum :) paying a footballer £600K a year is not showing ambition.

The party is over. Players coming to the end of their careers have had the best years. Football can not continue on its path. Vinny is showing leadership here (IMO)

West Brom and Sheffield haven't done amazingly well with their premier league salaried players and I doubt they are going to be in a bidding war for Ralls. So where is he really going to go ? £600K PA looks pretty fair for a guy who'll probably be signing a contract to the end of his effective playing career. His current contract was drawn up in a different time when he still had potential for a big bid, at 29 next birthday and a fairly frequent injury record (he is a combative CM) that ship has sailed.

The good thing about this cap (if true) is we won't be anywhere near signing Uche Ikpeazu although according to this website he is on 5.5K a week
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-be ... diff-city/

The fun of the off season is finding the next gem or one of your kids stepping up.

Re: ‘ VINCENT TAN NEXT SEASON ‘

Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:41 pm

SVEN

You must have been waiting for a chance to reply to me like war and peace
i for one have liked the manager from the start and backed bagan from the start when a lot did'nt but you need to calm down a bit you' ll do yourself a mischief might see you sat i' ll be there ignorant or not.