CARDIFF CITY FC: TO CHARGE FANS £1 EXTRA TO PAY FOR DAMAGE

CARDIFF CITY FC:

We will be charging fans who go to away games £1 extra per ticket to pay for the toilet damage at Bristol City:



£1 will be added to the booking fee of each away ticket sold for all away adult and young adult tickets (excluding OAP or juvenile tickets). This comes into effect for all away matches beginning with our trip to Millwall on February 12th.






At Cardiff City Football Club, we recognise and appreciate the tremendous support and passion of our fans at home and away fixtures alike.

Supporter behaviour has been excellent in recent seasons, and we’d like to take this opportunity to thank the significant majority of you who back the Bluebirds in the right fashion. As was the case against Nottingham Forest on the weekend, your support really can make the difference.

That spirited backing of the players was also overwhelmingly apparent at Ashton Gate when we visited Bristol City for the Severnside derby last month; however, the anti-social and criminal actions of a minority before, during and after the fixture brought significant shame upon our supporters’ name, not to mention embarrassment and upset to those representing Cardiff City Football Club on the day.

Echoing the EFL’s recent STAY AWAY message to all persons intent on engaging in anti-social behaviour at matches, Cardiff City Football Club reinforces that there is NO PLACE IN FOOTBALL for those claiming to represent us whilst acting in such a manner. Simply put, you are not welcome within the Bluebirds family, at Cardiff City Stadium or away from home.

We are currently in the process of working with South Wales Police and Avon & Somerset Police to hold the persons who caused the damage at Ashton Gate accountable for their reprehensible actions. Avon & Somerset Police have appealed for witnesses to come forward, HERE. Should you have information on those who caused the criminal damage, please call the Police on 101 and give the call handler the reference number 5222018809.

Three persons have been issued club bans for their behaviour within the stadium bowl at Ashton Gate and we await further information and guidance from the Police with a view to taking further action if and where appropriate.

Cardiff City Directors present on the day have apologised to Bristol City Football Club for the damage and have offered to pay for repairs to toilet blocks within the away end. By consequence of this significant outlay, it has been determined in consultation with Cardiff City Supporter Bodies that an additional £1 will be added to the booking fee of each away ticket sold for all away adult and young adult tickets (excluding OAP or juvenile tickets). This comes into effect for all away matches beginning with our trip to Millwall on February 12th.

This is really unfortunate but I can understand it.
I'd far rather the perpetrators be slapped with the whole bill but that's not going to happen. God forbid it happens again but if it does, hopefully other fans will 'gently persuade' them not to.

It should be insurance that pays for the damage coupled with an attempt by both clubs to identify those involved and to prosecute and seek damages.

This is collective punishment - punishing the innocent for the actions of a few. It's wrong.

This is collective punishment - punishing the innocent for the actions of a few. It's wrong.

It is but what’s the alternative?

This is collective punishment - punishing the innocent for the actions of a few. It's wrong.

Agree entirely. its wrong in principle and in practice and leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. I wasn't even at the game but me and my son will probably do five to the end of the season. So we are expected to fork out £10 for damage carried out by other people. Very surprised that the supporters club agreed to this.

This is collective punishment - punishing the innocent for the actions of a few. It's wrong.

It is but what’s the alternative?

Insurance, identification through CCTV and ticketing, police prosecution. Stick a steward just outside the toilet s 20 mins from the end of the game.

Why is it now the norm to punish the innocent and put the burden on the victim.

Did the victim do something to provoke the attack, assault.... did you not think of getting an alarm for your house as we cannot be arsed to police properly.

Because, whether it’s the Govt, Council, or in this case a football club, if you work, you’ve got cash and they want to take it off you. Like me, you’re a mug.

Which idiots on the supporters club have agreed to this ? Perhaps I should be charged extra on a pint in a pub because somebody wrecked the toilet on a night I wasn't there. It's quite simple the police have cctv of this so let the people who did it pay. In any event the people who supposedly represent me as supporters bodies have shown that they are more 'in' with the club than they care about the vast majority of innocents. An inexcusable let down. Shame on the lot of you!

This is collective punishment - punishing the innocent for the actions of a few. It's wrong.

It is but what’s the alternative?

Insurance, identification through CCTV and ticketing, police prosecution. Stick a steward just outside the toilet s 20 mins from the end of the game.

Why is it now the norm to punish the innocent and put the burden on the victim.

Did the victim do something to provoke the attack, assault.... did you not think of getting an alarm for your house as we cannot be arsed to police properly.

It's not just now those it - we have a bubble various games where rv points are in place and this is leftovers of years ago

We have a reputation that some revel in and others end up paying for either through inconvenience or extra cost

Don't agree with what the club have done but we have had a small of percentage of our fan base who have made it miserable for others who just wanted to watch football for years

Which idiots on the supporters club have agreed to this ? Perhaps I should be charged extra on a pint in a pub because somebody wrecked the toilet on a night I wasn't there. It's quite simple the police have cctv of this so let the people who did it pay. In any event the people who supposedly represent me as supporters bodies have shown that they are more 'in' with the club than they care about the vast majority of innocents. An inexcusable let down. Shame on the lot of you!

Reading a post elsewhere it seems that the Trust were just told by the club that it was happening. Not really a consultation or asking for their approval before going ahead.

An absolute disgrace to make innocent supporters travelling to away games pay extra money to pay for damage they had nothing to do with.

I remember when we were in the Premier League for the first time. Every club was given a grant of around £200,000 I think it was to use for the benefit of their fans travelling to away games. Many clubs used the money to subsidise away travel for their fans ( I think Stoke fans had free away travel on supporters coaches all season) - other clubs used the money to subsidise the cost of away tickets for their fans.

Our club however used almost all of the money to improve the facilities for away fans at the Cardiff City Stadium and, apart from one subsidised away trip to Swansea I cannot recall any of that money being used for the benefit of City fans travelling to away games.

So unfortunately it seems that the club have previous form when it comes to the poor treatment of their own supporters who follow the club to away games often at great expense to themselves and to punish them further is extremely poor by the club.

This is an awful decision by the club and the so called Supporters representatives to charge the majority innocent fans for this.

Our teams needs us more than ever to support them but under these circumstances I would support us not supporting them until this is retracted.

So how does this work? All away supporters pay an extra £1 when booking an away ticket.

So that money then goes to the club who use it to pay the damage at Bristol.

Will the surcharge then be dropped again when the cost of the damage has been met? Or will we just keep paying extra forever?

What will happen to all that extra money? Will it be used as a "sinking fund" so that the same sort of idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol feel they can do other damage knowing the cost will be covered by innocent well behaved supporters?

Appalling decision by the club to penalise it's own supporters for the actions of a few.

Perhaps the club could dock the players a pound each from their wages before every away game?

Perhaps Dalman and Choo should contribute a pound each before every away game.

I know they all had nothing to do with the damage caused at Bristol but neither did thousands of other supporters who behaved impeccably whilst following their club.

After all, we're all in this together.

Aren't we?

They have the dozen or so fans on video and they should be paying every penny.


I totally disagree with the above.

Don’t agree with that myself. Surely the ones who done it were on camera?? Yeah it’s only £1 but why should everyone pay for some fucker else’s trouble.

They have the dozen or so fans on video and they should be paying every penny.


I totally disagree with the above.

Absolutely agree; and it woukd be useful to hear what a certain Mr Nash, nominal Chief Operations Manager, has to say about it

The idiots in the video are clear and other people/supporters will know them, so what are the club/authorities doing to bring them to task and to pay for the mindless damage they caused?

Someone asked (quote): "Did the victim do something to provoke the attack?"

Currently, it's unclear, but those who witnessed did say it was being a bit of a sh*thouse on the day; something I would suggest is more akin to those that carried out the unfathomable attack itself...

Can someone on here who actually is a represents one of the supporter bodies that agreed to this tell us what happened in the phone call/zoom/meeting when this was agreed , who agreed it. Or was it presented as a done deal by the club?

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Can someone on here who actually is a represents one of the supporter bodies that agreed to this tell us what happened in the phone call/zoom/meeting when this was agreed , who agreed it. Or was it presented as a done deal by the club?

You've aaked that question twice now, yet floppsy responded to your first one...??

They have the dozen or so fans on video and they should be paying every penny.


I totally disagree with the above.

Absolutely agree; and it woukd be useful to hear what a certain Mr Nash, nominal Chief Operations Manager, has to say about it

The idiots in the video are clear and other people/supporters will know them, so what are the club/authorities doing to bring them to task and to pay for the mindless damage they caused?

Someone asked (quote): "Did the victim do something to provoke the attack?"

Currently, it's unclear, but those who witnessed did say it was being a bit of a sh*thouse on the day; something I would suggest is more akin to those that carried out the unfathomable attack itself...

It’s a disgrace Chris,

They have now identified at least a dozen from the videos that they the ones who did actually took themselves , they should ALL pay every penny.

I've just done a quick Google.... and found this.

The average away attendance for Cardiff City for the 2019/20 season was 1,532.

So £50,000 / 1532 = 32.64 so 33 away matches of average attendance to pay off the actions of some mindless morons.

Therefore, a season and a chunk - and that's based on the 19/20 average away attendances - so it'll probably be more like 2 seasons worth of away matches going on the current covid shenanigans.

As others have said, this should be either covered by insurance or by directly shaking down the perpetrators for the costs of their actions.

Two other things that spring to mind are that the 'regulars' will be hardest hit (if a £1 can be seen as 'hard') because they do more 'aways', and that it will take some considerable time for the club's 'Toilet Tax' to be repaid...

Let's be generous and say we average 2,000 travellers per away game, that means it woukd have to stay in place for 25 games, i.e. well into next season

The club, I'm told through Wayne Nash, need to seriously reconsider their decision and go seek out the perpetrators of the crime...

#toiletgate

I've just done a quick Google.... and found this.

The average away attendance for Cardiff City for the 2019/20 season was 1,532.

So £50,000 / 1532 = 32.64 so 33 away matches of average attendance to pay off the actions of some mindless morons.

Therefore, a season and a chunk - and that's based on the 19/20 average away attendances - so it'll probably be more like 2 seasons worth of away matches going on the current covid shenanigans.

As others have said, this should be either covered by insurance or by directly shaking down the perpetrators for the costs of their actions.

Sorry, fella; you beat me to it by seconds...

Totally agree, though...

While it’s only a quid the principle of this stinks.

This is not on.

Great minds eh!?!

I'm going to use it as a maths problem during a lesson today - I know its a basic one, but there's a bit of research and then some rounding. Might even throw in some estimation.

Great for GCSE Numeracy at the level they work at.

I teach a couple of lads who are football mental so anything footy related draws them in - even if its the actions of some morons.

It'll be surrounded by the basics of the transfer window - who's earning what over a year at the headline newspaper reported rates, then factor in the basics of income tax and NI even though footballers will have ways around the standard tax system. We might also look at agents on 10, 15 or x%. We will certainly compare it to average earnings and their perceptions of what they will earn when they are old enough.

While it’s only a quid the principle of this stinks.

This is not on.

Absolutely agree with you Neil

Well, to say I'm disgusted with this would be and understatement. The club have got this completely wrong and shot themselves in the foot - who is responsible for this decision? Wayne Nash?

The club are effectively punishing all our amazing away fans for something they didn't do, as it was just a few 'wannabe hooligan' idiots who caused the damage and evident to all on the widely publicised camera footage that the idiots took and socialised. The police and club have this evidence and should simply be pursuing the few perpetrators, not punishing the fans who were not responsible.

Is this some sort of poorly thought out PC PR exercise as it says the club are working with the 'Stay Away' anti-social behaviour group? I also can't believe any of our supporters groups would agree with this decision and at least before consulting their members.

I think it's an insult to our fans and also tars all of us who travel with the same brush because of the actions of a few.

Like many, I've travelled away for many years and I'm proud of the fans who make the effort and go to the expense. It's an insult by the club to punish them and also tarnish them like this.

The club has historically done next to nothing to support away fans but always say the empty comments of how fantastic they are. I've always felt that they should be doing much more to show their appreciation and this decision proves to me they just simply don't care, just taken for granted and with this ridiculous punishment, looked down upon.

I'll be firing off a few emails to the clowns at the club who decided this was a good move.