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“ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:44 am

ARE YOU HAPPY WITH CCFC JANUARY 2022 TRANSFERS?




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Transfers January 2022 Cardiff City spent Zero.

Received £3.5mill.

Loans balanced each other out.

Cardiff have loaned out 9 players.

Cardiff have brought in 4 players on loan.




SOLD: Kieffer Moore to Bournemouth £3 Mill upfront, £0.5mill on goals, £1.5mill if Bournemouth promoted.


LOANS IN: :bluebird: Uche Ikpeazu , Jordan Hugill , Alfie Doughty, Cody Drameh,



LOANS OUT: Tom Sang aged 23 , Keenan Patten aged 21, Ciaron Brown aged 24, Kieron Evans aged 20, Caleb Hughe aged 19,
Chanka Zimba aged 20 & James Connolly aged 20.




04/01/ 2022: Cardiff have recalled Ryan Wintle from Blackpool & Max Watters from MK Dons.


04/01/2022 Wolves have recalled Ryan Giles .



Gavin Whyte still out on loan at Oxford who are paying 2/3 of his wages.

Josh Murphy still out on loan at Preston, Preston paying 50% of his wages.










CARDIFF CITY’S REMAINING FIXTURES:




Tuesday Feb 2 Barnsley v Cardiff City


Sunday 12pm Feb 6 FACUP 4th Rd Liverpool v Cardiff City Worth up to £300,000 ( already had £90,000) :thumbright: :bluebird:


Wednesday Feb 9 Cardiff City v Peterborough United


Sat Feb 12 Millwall A


Tuesday Feb 15th Cardiff City v Coventry City


Sat Feb 19 Blackpool H

Wed Feb 23 Huddersfield Town A

Sat Feb 26 Fulham H




Tuesday March 1st Cardiff City v Derby County


Sat Mar 5 Queens Park Rangers A



Sat Mar 12 Preston North End H

Wed Mar 16 Stoke City H

Sat Mar 19 Middlesbrough A

Sat Apr 2 Swansea City H
Sat Apr 9 Reading A
Fri Apr 15 Hull City A
Mon Apr 18 Luton Town H
Sat Apr 23 Sheffield United A
Sat Apr 30 Birmingham City H

Sat May 7 Derby County A





UPDATED:

‘’Derby County 21 points deducted / Fighting every week

‘Reading 6 points deducted and fading fast , like they’ve given up.
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Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:46 am

Yes. I think the players brought in are better than what we had.

Only issue is they are all loans and where it leaves us next season.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:46 am

Transfers January 2022 Cardiff City spent Zero.

Received £3.5mill.

Loans balanced each other out.










Tom Sang who is 23 yrs old in a few months joins ST Johnstone, was last season on loan at Cheltenham.


Keenan Patten aged 21 this April is set to head out on loan to Hereford FC in the National League North.

Ciaron Brown aged 24 joins Oxford United till the end of this season.


Kieron Evans, 20, will join Belfast-based club Linfield.





31/ 01/2022: Cardiff City complete loan signing of Uche Ikpeazu from Boro until the end of the season.

Cardiff City will pay 70% of Ikpeazu’s wages.



Gavin Whyte still out on loan at Oxford who are paying 2/3 of his wages.

Josh Murphy still out on loan at Preston, Preston paying 50% of his wages.





31/01/22: Another one of Cardiff City’s future stars today joined Welsh League Club on Loan | Caleb Hughes has today joined @HaverfordwestFC for the remainder of the 2021/22 season with the Welsh League Club paying all his wages till the end of the season.



31/01/2022: KIEFFER MOORE SOLD FOR £3.5mill with add ons if Bournemouth promoted.

Bournemouth paying £3mill upfront, £.5mill for goals another £1.5mil if Bournemouth are promoted.





30/01/22: Cardiff are delighted to welcome forward Jordan Hugill to Cardiff City Stadium on
loan.

The Norwich City man has agreed a deal to join the Bluebirds on loan for the rest of the 2021/22 season.

Jordon Hughill has scored 6 goals in his last 54 appearances.




29/01/22: Alfie Doughty joins Cardiff on loan until the end of the season. He will wear the No.18.



20/01/2022: Cardiff City have confirmed the signing of 20 year old Tommy Doyle on loan from Manchester City until the end of the season.


12/01/2022: Cardiff City Sign 20 year old Cody Drameh on loan till end of season from Leeds United.



11/01/2022 James Waite aged 22 a Cardiff City Academy player has signed permanently for Newport County in a 18month deal.



06/01/2022: Forward Chanka Zimba aged 20 has today joined Northampton Town on loan for the remainder of the 2021/22 season.

06/01/22: James Connolly loaned out to League 2 Bristol Rovers till the end of the season.







04/01/ 2022: Cardiff have recalled Ryan Wintle from Blackpool & Max Watters from MK Dons.


04/01/2022 Wolves have recalled Ryan Giles .
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Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:54 am

Yes based on Sunday's performance but we need to string a couple more wins together against Barnsley and the Posh Annis. But team looked balance and better than a bottom three team Sunday.


Not disappointed to see Moore go, been awful this year, apart from for Wales. Will be an interesting 6 months, we do need to get Morrison and Ralls on extended contracts though, everyone else can go from the out of contracts bunch.

Are you happy with the business we've done?

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:15 am

jimmy_rat wrote:Yes. I think the players brought in are better than what we had.

Only issue is they are all loans and where it leaves us next season.

Agree.
Hopefully some of the loans will be here next season too if they impress and deals can be extended

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:19 am

jimmy_rat wrote:Yes. I think the players brought in are better than what we had.

Only issue is they are all loans and where it leaves us next season.



To be fair to Steve Morison he had NO money , nothing to bargain with, had to send loads of players out on loan to bring others in, had to sell our top scorer, was turned down by many clubs as we could not even pay their players full wages if they came on loan to us.

So for me Steve Morison has done a great job in the January transfers having nothing to spend.

I think Steve Morison will keep us up and I hope he is here next season as NO one else would want the job with Nothing to spend and 10 players leaving this May .


The future very very worried.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:21 am

dorsetblue wrote:Yes based on Sunday's performance but we need to string a couple more wins together against Barnsley and the Posh Annis. But team looked balance and better than a bottom three team Sunday.


Not disappointed to see Moore go, been awful this year, apart from for Wales. Will be an interesting 6 months, we do need to get Morrison and Ralls on extended contracts though, everyone else can go from the out of contracts bunch.

Are you happy with the business we've done?


Huw,

As I said above Steve Morison has for me done a brilliant job in the transfer market in January.
:thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


To be fair to Steve Morison he had NO money , nothing to bargain with, had to send loads of players out on loan to bring others in, had to sell our top scorer, was turned down by many clubs as we could not even pay their players full wages if they came on loan to us.

So for me Steve Morison has done a great job in the January transfers having nothing to spend.

I think Steve Morison will keep us up and I hope he is here next season as NO one else would want the job with Nothing to spend and 10 players leaving this May .

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:22 am

Too right money in £5million money out nil, old team 3 out 10 and would have taken us down, new team 6 out of 10 and will keep us up easily, that was a good window, we rebuild in the Summer :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:37 am

I would have preferred Moore to stay if it was the Moore of last season However the Moore this season I believe us caused issues within the team Most of our best performance have been without him this season
The players that came in seems better than what they have replaced, just from a couple of games i have seen them. However with so many players out of contract next season will be interesting
On the plus side
- Get rid of highly paid under performing players
- New style of play . I had got very bored with the football over the last few years and because we had some success we stuck with the style
- Hopefully premier teams will see that we can be a good place for them to loan us their up an coming young players and that may help
- Our young players have gained some experience and matured a little more

Negative side
- Lose all our experience in nearly one go The only players i would keep are Ralls and Morrison
- Reliance on loan players who could get called back when playing well
- No money for quality permanent signing
- Falling attendances possibly

It is not an ideal place to be but certainly happier than i was a few weeks back with the squad

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:54 am

After every transfer window it's question of whether the squad/first XI is stronger.

I was disappointed Moore went but that's based on ability rather than this season's actual performances so overall I accept he had to go.

The other disappointment was Giles not coming back but I absolutely back Morison's position in not allowing that situation to drag on to the last day and risk no replacement.

OUT

Tom Sang - we need to know if he has enough in him to make it and playing regularly is the only real way to find out. He certainly wasn't going to be a regular with us.

Keenan Patten - I really hope this kid makes it. He has something about him and now needs to step up. Centre midfield is notoriously difficult for youngsters to make it early in their career so I really hope going on loan to Hereford FC works.

Ciaron Brown to Oxford United and is not Championship level, he won't be back.

Kieron Evans, 20, needs strengthening up but if he does that at Linfield he might yet make it.

Gavin Whyte on loan at Oxford and won't be back, not good enough at this level.

Josh Murphy still out on loan at Preston, still injured and, luckily, we will never see this over paid failure in a City shirt again.

Chanka Zimba - loan to Northampton Town is perfect. We know he knows where the goals are but he needs to toughen up and improve his hold up play. If he does that he'll be an asset, if he doesn't he won't be with us for much longer.

James Connolly - loan to Bristol Rovers is exactly what he needs as a centre back. We'll have a better idea how he's going to do after watching him play regularly.

Caleb Hughes - to Haverfordwest FC I don't know enough about him but he's a long way off our first team so a loan may suit everyone.

IN

Uche Ikpeazu - I don't know enough about him, but we do know that Morison wanted him right from the off (even ahead of Hugill) and he hasn't got many loans/recalls wrong so far so I'll trust his judgement.

Jordan Hugill so far looks excellent. Not sure that he will have the longterm goal threat of Moore but he's certainly more mobile and looks better in the air than I anticipated. Brings others into the game so could be a real success if he carries on from Sunday. Also a year younger than Moore.

Alfie Doughty - the Giles replacement, and so far looks excellent. Played up against the Championships most in form winger and only got beaten round the side once. Looks good so far.

Tommy Doyle - the bit of class we were missing from when Wilson went. Just the type of quality you can only really get from the loan market.

Cody Drameh - again quality. May make a few howlers defensively over the next few months but he's pacy, good on the ball and surprisingly keen in the tackle.

Ryan Wintle - recalled and should never have been loaned out. He's the type of player that allows all the others around him to play better. He proved it at this level with Blackpool and has got better with each game since he came back. Could be a real top player for us.

Max Watters - worth recalling just because of the goals he scored on loan. To be fair he scored a decent goal against Bristol and linked quite well with Hugill. I'm not totally convinced about him but he certainly hasn't weakened us.

So overall I'd say our squad and, particularly, our First XI is a lot stronger than before January. The two full back positions are sorted and that's also had the added bonus of enabling Ng to play centre back which gives us more pace and ability on the ball in there too.

In midfield Wintle is a huge improvement as is Doyle. Ralls also looks like he's benefiting from having pace around him.

Upfront we've replaced Moore (who's hardly played anyway) with Hugill, Ikpeazu and Watters, as well as keeping Collins, Harris and Isaak Davies (who's improving all the time and will really challenge them all for a starting place). You could also make a case for Colwill to play as part of a front two with Hugill being more mobile and able to make runs in behind.

I would argue with anyone that thinks we're not stronger now.

Mind you the U23s are going to struggle with half their team either in the First XI or loaned out :o :lol:














04/01/ 2022: Cardiff have recalled Ryan Wintle from Blackpool & Max Watters from MK Dons.


04/01/2022 Wolves have recalled Ryan Giles .

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Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:01 am

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Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:06 am

We have done well and have enough players to survive. Last time we started the season with a small squad we got promotion as Warnock could get the players he wanted. With a lot of players out of contract and Loans going back , Morrison or the new Manager will be able to get the players they want next year without worrying about dead wood on big wages .

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:07 am

Forever Blue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Yes based on Sunday's performance but we need to string a couple more wins together against Barnsley and the Posh Annis. But team looked balance and better than a bottom three team Sunday.


Not disappointed to see Moore go, been awful this year, apart from for Wales. Will be an interesting 6 months, we do need to get Morrison and Ralls on extended contracts though, everyone else can go from the out of contracts bunch.

Are you happy with the business we've done?


Huw,

As I said above Steve Morison has for me done a brilliant job in the transfer market in January.
:thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


To be fair to Steve Morison he had NO money , nothing to bargain with, had to send loads of players out on loan to bring others in, had to sell our top scorer, was turned down by many clubs as we could not even pay their players full wages if they came on loan to us.

So for me Steve Morison has done a great job in the January transfers having nothing to spend.

I think Steve Morison will keep us up and I hope he is here next season as NO one else would want the job with Nothing to spend and 10 players leaving this May
.


Spot on :thumbright:

I have said that whilst on the face of it having so many loans and players coming to the end of contracts looks worrying, when you are trying to change the whole style and culture in a club it's a major opportunity that doesn't come around very often.

There will be very few players that Morison will feel he's "stuck with" and, based on the recruitment so far, he'll already be looking at the type of players he'll want to bring in.

I just hope that Morison does enough over the next few months to convince us and the board that he is the future and we need to stick with him. He will make mistakes but as long as we see progress I think a lot of the supporters are right behind him.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:54 am

Makes me laugh at those saying Tan must be investing because we have brought in 4/5 loans. Its obvious all those loans that have gone out cover the new loans and now we have money in the bank from the Moore sale although most of that will cover other expenses like a couple of flats in London.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:57 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Makes me laugh at those saying Tan must be investing because we have brought in 4/5 loans. Its obvious all those loans that have gone out cover the new loans and now we have money in the bank from the Moore sale although most of that will cover other expenses like a couple of flats in London.



Just shows how clueless they are.

We brought 4 loans in and 9 are now currently out.

Surely they can work that out.


Also we sold a player for £3.5mill / Bought No one

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:59 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Yes based on Sunday's performance but we need to string a couple more wins together against Barnsley and the Posh Annis. But team looked balance and better than a bottom three team Sunday.


Not disappointed to see Moore go, been awful this year, apart from for Wales. Will be an interesting 6 months, we do need to get Morrison and Ralls on extended contracts though, everyone else can go from the out of contracts bunch.

Are you happy with the business we've done?


Huw,

As I said above Steve Morison has for me done a brilliant job in the transfer market in January.
:thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


To be fair to Steve Morison he had NO money , nothing to bargain with, had to send loads of players out on loan to bring others in, had to sell our top scorer, was turned down by many clubs as we could not even pay their players full wages if they came on loan to us.

So for me Steve Morison has done a great job in the January transfers having nothing to spend.

I think Steve Morison will keep us up and I hope he is here next season as NO one else would want the job with Nothing to spend and 10 players leaving this May
.


Spot on :thumbright:

I have said that whilst on the face of it having so many loans and players coming to the end of contracts looks worrying, when you are trying to change the whole style and culture in a club it's a major opportunity that doesn't come around very often.

There will be very few players that Morison will feel he's "stuck with" and, based on the recruitment so far, he'll already be looking at the type of players he'll want to bring in.

I just hope that Morison does enough over the next few months to convince us and the board that he is the future and we need to stick with him. He will make mistakes but as long as we see progress I think a lot of the supporters are right behind him.





I hope Steve Morison now takes us up the table and is here next season as he is the only one I believe good enough with NO money available.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:30 pm

Well happy especially after the way we played on Sunday. If we do the same until the season this transfer window will turn out to be one of the best in a long time.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Yes based on Sunday's performance but we need to string a couple more wins together against Barnsley and the Posh Annis. But team looked balance and better than a bottom three team Sunday.


Not disappointed to see Moore go, been awful this year, apart from for Wales. Will be an interesting 6 months, we do need to get Morrison and Ralls on extended contracts though, everyone else can go from the out of contracts bunch.

Are you happy with the business we've done?


Huw,

As I said above Steve Morison has for me done a brilliant job in the transfer market in January.
:thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


To be fair to Steve Morison he had NO money , nothing to bargain with, had to send loads of players out on loan to bring others in, had to sell our top scorer, was turned down by many clubs as we could not even pay their players full wages if they came on loan to us.

So for me Steve Morison has done a great job in the January transfers having nothing to spend.

I think Steve Morison will keep us up and I hope he is here next season as NO one else would want the job with Nothing to spend and 10 players leaving this May
.


Spot on :thumbright:

I have said that whilst on the face of it having so many loans and players coming to the end of contracts looks worrying, when you are trying to change the whole style and culture in a club it's a major opportunity that doesn't come around very often.

There will be very few players that Morison will feel he's "stuck with" and, based on the recruitment so far, he'll already be looking at the type of players he'll want to bring in.

I just hope that Morison does enough over the next few months to convince us and the board that he is the future and we need to stick with him. He will make mistakes but as long as we see progress I think a lot of the supporters are right behind him.





I hope Steve Morison now takes us up the table and is here next season as he is the only one I believe good enough with NO money available.


Yep, and actually the better managers don't need huge investment to make a difference, at least in the short-term.

Remember the dire straights we were in when Warnock came in ? He brought in 2 frees (Hoilett and Bamba) and transformed the mindset within 5 days.

Personally I think we should always use the loan market to get the extra quality we need to balance it out. But at some point even I would accept that we will have to spend some money (not the levels we have previously) to give us stability and quality.

This was always going to be a season of transition as we all knew what was coming our way in terms of the contracts in the summer and the impact of the pandemic as with so many of the Championship clubs. After that we will have a better idea of where the club sees us being in terms of competing next season.

It does seem that we will win the Isaacs case, the Sala could go either way and I honestly don't know the details of the Hammam case well enough to make a judgement call on that one. But even is we win 2 out of three that will have a pretty significant positive impact, if we don't win any of them (unlikely) then things will be pretty tight for a good while longer.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:51 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:Yes based on Sunday's performance but we need to string a couple more wins together against Barnsley and the Posh Annis. But team looked balance and better than a bottom three team Sunday.


Not disappointed to see Moore go, been awful this year, apart from for Wales. Will be an interesting 6 months, we do need to get Morrison and Ralls on extended contracts though, everyone else can go from the out of contracts bunch.

Are you happy with the business we've done?


Huw,

As I said above Steve Morison has for me done a brilliant job in the transfer market in January.
:thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


To be fair to Steve Morison he had NO money , nothing to bargain with, had to send loads of players out on loan to bring others in, had to sell our top scorer, was turned down by many clubs as we could not even pay their players full wages if they came on loan to us.

So for me Steve Morison has done a great job in the January transfers having nothing to spend.

I think Steve Morison will keep us up and I hope he is here next season as NO one else would want the job with Nothing to spend and 10 players leaving this May
.


Spot on :thumbright:

I have said that whilst on the face of it having so many loans and players coming to the end of contracts looks worrying, when you are trying to change the whole style and culture in a club it's a major opportunity that doesn't come around very often.

There will be very few players that Morison will feel he's "stuck with" and, based on the recruitment so far, he'll already be looking at the type of players he'll want to bring in.

I just hope that Morison does enough over the next few months to convince us and the board that he is the future and we need to stick with him. He will make mistakes but as long as we see progress I think a lot of the supporters are right behind him.





I hope Steve Morison now takes us up the table and is here next season as he is the only one I believe good enough with NO money available.


Yep, and actually the better managers don't need huge investment to make a difference, at least in the short-term.

Remember the dire straights we were in when Warnock came in ? He brought in 2 frees (Hoilett and Bamba) and transformed the mindset within 5 days.

Personally I think we should always use the loan market to get the extra quality we need to balance it out. But at some point even I would accept that we will have to spend some money (not the levels we have previously) to give us stability and quality.

This was always going to be a season of transition as we all knew what was coming our way in terms of the contracts in the summer and the impact of the pandemic as with so many of the Championship clubs. After that we will have a better idea of where the club sees us being in terms of competing next season.

It does seem that we will win the Isaacs case, the Sala could go either way and I honestly don't know the details of the Hammam case well enough to make a judgement call on that one. But even is we win 2 out of three that will have a pretty significant positive impact, if we don't win any of them (unlikely) then things will be pretty tight for a good while longer.



I totally agree, Warnock does much better without money .

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:09 pm

Time will tell on this transfer window. All those involved now have to deliver , success being avoiding relegation and going for a mid table finish would be a bonus.

Systems played , lets be honest here. Winning / entertaining football is what gets bums on seats - how they go about doing this is what they get paid to do.

Hopefully they'll pull it off, the next problem on the horizon will be next season - presuming we stay up and either signing the players we loaned or finding suitable replacements. Maybe just for once - we can have a style / philosophy that we get players who can do this - rather than a hotch potch of up and at em type football

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:04 pm

Grandstand wrote:We have done well and have enough players to survive. Last time we started the season with a small squad we got promotion as Warnock could get the players he wanted. With a lot of players out of contract and Loans going back , Morrison or the new Manager will be able to get the players they want next year without worrying about dead wood on big wages .

Bang on ,we got a lot of mediocre players on high salaries, new guy can get who he wants .

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:14 pm

Excellent and with some money in back towards running of club too

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:00 pm

Well done to the club and Steve Morison. He identified targets that would make us a better team and the board got them. Moore didn't want to be here so thanks and goodbye - I hope he does well and scores plenty for Wales in the future. Watching us on Sunday was a pleasure after the appalling anti football of Mc Carthy. Good results in the next five games could see us almost guarantee saftery which was almost unthinkable before Morison took over.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Makes me laugh at those saying Tan must be investing because we have brought in 4/5 loans. Its obvious all those loans that have gone out cover the new loans and now we have money in the bank from the Moore sale although most of that will cover other expenses like a couple of flats in London.


I know there’s lots of back tracking going on as it was said countless times we wouldn’t bring anyone in, then only one in, then two etc etc and that Moore would leave as well and we would be left with Collins but ffs put a pin in it.

This constant sniping doesn’t help anything.

Can we all get behind the club now and then see what happens in the summer?

For the record the players who have gone out on loan are all on very small wages and the players in will be on big wages. Remember it was said by Annis that Doyle wouldn’t come as we had no money. Even as a reserve at Citeh he’s gonna be on a fair wedge so 40% of that is still more than Sang and Brown I would suggest. Then Hugill is gonna be on good wages as a premier league player and we are paying a fair amount of that, the Boro lad two thirds of his wage, again will be a lot. Murphy and Whyte were never coming back not a factor.

The players who have left in January are not our big earners and no way do the wages saved cover the extra wages even if it is more players. Even Moore wasn’t relatively speaking.

Morison has been backed by Tan and SM has had a blinder. End off (sic). He had to back him because of the absolute mess he has overseen between august and January. Yes, Tan has to take blame for that as he is the owner. I am not going to say anything different. He is correcting his mistakes.

We restart in the summer. Hopefully finishing above 16th in the championship which means we will not have had our worst season in the championship since Sam took us up from the dungeon to that level. Yes it was Sam who took us there as he was the owner. See what I’m doing? I’m giving credit to Sam and criticising Tan. That’s because it is warranted and I don’t have an agenda against either of them.
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Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 pm

Has to be yes, it was a positively good January Transfer Window under the circumstances where few expected anything from those above

I can only think that there was a realisation that the decisions of the summer were costing us dear in status terms, so money was found to fund some new blood

For me, the use of 'loans' is a good thing, as the players gained all appear to be 'up' for it and with points to prove

We can now move into the latter part of the season with a lot more hope and once the CAS Sam and Issacs situations are sorted. We will be able to know where we are, what the owner's intentions are, and know where we are headed in the short to medium term

Still lots of negatives around but the season has to be boosted by these signings and their numbers :ayatollah:

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:19 pm

As Ive said previously, happy with the squad numbers now, a little more quality up top, but midfield still lacking for me. Doyle though looks like he will make a difference.

I need to make the point however that this is a temporary short term fix. The Regime has spent zero money on a 3 month fix.

When the loans go back and we release our big earners together with releasing the only real experience we have, then we will really struggle as, and I will repeat, Dalman has said NO MONEY IN THE SUMMER!

The Regime don't fool me into thinking we suddenly are a buying club. We will sell and release in the Summer and the hopes for next season are looking gloomy.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:37 pm

Barclay1 wrote:As Ive said previously, happy with the squad numbers now, a little more quality up top, but midfield still lacking for me. Doyle though looks like he will make a difference.

I need to make the point however that this is a temporary short term fix. The Regime has spent zero money on a 3 month fix.

When the loans go back and we release our big earners together with releasing the only real experience we have, then we will really struggle as, and I will repeat, Dalman has said NO MONEY IN THE SUMMER!

The Regime don't fool me into thinking we suddenly are a buying club. We will sell and release in the Summer and the hopes for next season are looking gloomy.


Quite clearly money has been spent in January. To say otherwise is extremely disingenuous.

Players were in before Moore left, then another signed after.

You (and others) will say the Moore money was used. However say Moore failed his medical (a possibility) we had already brought in four players.

You (and others) will say the players out on loan covered the wages being paid to our new signings. If you think that a bunch of under 23 squad players plus Sang and Brown adds up to the wages of three premier league players and two championship players who cost 1.5 million between them (even if we are paying % of wages) then you are stupid, misinformed or lying.

You (and others) will say Dalman has said no money in the summer. This might be true. As in no money for buying players. He also said no money in January yet look what has happened. Also, Dalman is not in charge Tan is.

You (and others) have said lots of shite. Most of it has turned out to be bollocks and it is tinged with an anti Tan agenda. It’s pathetic to be quite frank.

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:48 pm

maccydee wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:As Ive said previously, happy with the squad numbers now, a little more quality up top, but midfield still lacking for me. Doyle though looks like he will make a difference.

I need to make the point however that this is a temporary short term fix. The Regime has spent zero money on a 3 month fix.

When the loans go back and we release our big earners together with releasing the only real experience we have, then we will really struggle as, and I will repeat, Dalman has said NO MONEY IN THE SUMMER!

The Regime don't fool me into thinking we suddenly are a buying club. We will sell and release in the Summer and the hopes for next season are looking gloomy.


Quite clearly money has been spent in January. To say otherwise is extremely disingenuous.

Players were in before Moore left, then another signed after.

You (and others) will say the Moore money was used. However say Moore failed his medical (a possibility) we had already brought in four players.

You (and others) will say the players out on loan covered the wages being paid to our new signings. If you think that a bunch of under 23 squad players plus Sang and Brown adds up to the wages of three premier league players and two championship players who cost 1.5 million between them (even if we are paying % of wages) then you are stupid, misinformed or lying.

You (and others) will say Dalman has said no money in the summer. This might be true. As in no money for buying players. He also said no money in January yet look what has happened. Also, Dalman is not in charge Tan is.

You (and others) have said lots of shite. Most of it has turned out to be bollocks and it is tinged with an anti Tan agenda. It’s pathetic to be quite frank.


Fair enough, but I'll stick with my assessment.

The players we have loaned out, Including Zimba Conolly and the latest five, plus saving on Moore's wages in my opinion MORE than cover the tiny fraction of wages we are paying Premier League kids.

I wont be falling into the 'Isnt Tan amazing cos hes used Moores wages to fund short term loans'.
I want to see what our team looks like at the beginning of next season.

I'm neither stupid, misinformed or lying. I'd either ask you to take Dalmans comments up with Dalman himself or ask the leader to take it up with Dalman

Re: “ Honest Views? “

Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:57 pm

Barclay1 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:As Ive said previously, happy with the squad numbers now, a little more quality up top, but midfield still lacking for me. Doyle though looks like he will make a difference.

I need to make the point however that this is a temporary short term fix. The Regime has spent zero money on a 3 month fix.

When the loans go back and we release our big earners together with releasing the only real experience we have, then we will really struggle as, and I will repeat, Dalman has said NO MONEY IN THE SUMMER!

The Regime don't fool me into thinking we suddenly are a buying club. We will sell and release in the Summer and the hopes for next season are looking gloomy.


Quite clearly money has been spent in January. To say otherwise is extremely disingenuous.

Players were in before Moore left, then another signed after.

You (and others) will say the Moore money was used. However say Moore failed his medical (a possibility) we had already brought in four players.

You (and others) will say the players out on loan covered the wages being paid to our new signings. If you think that a bunch of under 23 squad players plus Sang and Brown adds up to the wages of three premier league players and two championship players who cost 1.5 million between them (even if we are paying % of wages) then you are stupid, misinformed or lying.

You (and others) will say Dalman has said no money in the summer. This might be true. As in no money for buying players. He also said no money in January yet look what has happened. Also, Dalman is not in charge Tan is.

You (and others) have said lots of shite. Most of it has turned out to be bollocks and it is tinged with an anti Tan agenda. It’s pathetic to be quite frank.


Fair enough, but I'll stick with my assessment.

The players we have loaned out, Including Zimba Conolly and the latest five, plus saving on Moore's wages in my opinion MORE than cover the tiny fraction of wages we are paying Premier League kids.

I wont be falling into the 'Isnt Tan amazing cos hes used Moores wages to fund short term loans'.
I want to see what our team looks like at the beginning of next season.

I'm neither stupid, misinformed or lying. I'd either ask you to take Dalmans comments up with Dalman himself or ask the leader to take it up with Dalman


Fucks sake. Moore left after we had signed 4 players. The 5th player signed as a replacement for Moore.

Doyle and Hugill premier league kids? Alright pal. Yeah you aren’t stupid, lying or misinformed.

As far the wages going out v wages coming in. Yeah I’m sure Hereford and Linfield are covering the huge wages of Patten and Evans in full.

Oh and as usual with this site there is misinformation.

6 players loaned out, 5 players loaned in during January.