Legal Challenge to Welsh Jab passports

Not going to be the main headline on Wales News or Walesonline but:

From: Silkie Carlo
Director of Big Brother Watch

"WE'VE LAUNCHED A LEGAL CHALLENGE AGAINST THE WELSH COVID PASS SCHEME
BREAKING NEWS
We have just started a legal challenge against mandatory Covid passes in Wales.

Big Brother Watch strongly believes these authoritarian, invasive and unevidenced internal health passports need to be scrapped, now.

This is the first human rights legal challenge in the UK against Covid passes - and we're only able to start this thanks to your incredible support.

KEEP THE CHALLENGE GOING
Please keep supporting this campaign! We always warned that Covid IDs would be the beginning of expansive health ID checks - not the end.

And just moments ago, the Welsh government extended Covid pass checks beyond nightclubs and sporting events to now include cinemas and theatres.

Make no mistake. This is safety theatre that does nothing for public health but attacks medical privacy and puts up needless barriers to social inclusion.

There are far more proportionate, effective and inclusive measures to keep people safe and get the country back to normal than excluding healthy people without the right health papers from society. But we will never get back to anything like normal with health ID checks that will inevitably continue to expand.

A breach of privacy
Our legal letter to the Welsh government today argues that their Covid pass scheme breaches the right to privacy, protected by the Human Rights Act. You can read it here.

No evidence
No evidence has been provided that the mandatory use of Covid passes will benefit the public health.

Covid IDs don’t tell you that a person doesn’t have Covid or can’t spread Covid, but do make society less free and less accessible for people.

In fact, advice from SAGE, the Welsh Technical Advisory Cell, and the Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee in Westminster have warned that Covid passes could be ineffective, raise serious ethical issues, risk public health harms, and the latter even concluded that there is “no justification for them in the science and none in logic”.

It's thanks to YOU
Our national campaign against mandatory Covid passes across the UK is backed by 80+ MPs, 11 rights groups, and thousands of you who have collectively raised over £170,000 via this Crowdfunder to support the fight.

Now that we have escalated our legal action, we face significant and growing cost risks.

And meanwhile, we need ongoing resources to keep the pressure on in Scotland, as well as England and Northern Ireland where Covid passes are being threatened for winter.

So please, keep supporting the campaign and don't give up. This fight is too important to lose.

Please spread the word far and wide!

Thank you for standing with us at this critical time."

B.T.W.
Coming your way - No 'Booster' no qualify.

what i don't understand if they are going to implement this why aren't they extending to pubs too ?

makes no sense

Have patience Mozzer.

well i was in the city centre the night of the rugby 2 weeks ago and the place I was in was rammed to the rafters with egg chassers .

3 deep at the bar most of the night not 1 single person wearing a mask apart from me of course

wheres the science just ear marking theartres and cinemas ?

Never heard of this group but at last there is a challenge to the percieved normal. It only takes a straw to break the Cabal's back.

I would be grateful if you would share a link to the Big Brother Watch page and also the go funding page.

This is a massive fight for Human Rights and unfortunately if it does not succeed we are slipping into 1984.

what i don't understand if they are going to implement this why aren't they extending to pubs too ?

makes no sense

They will if it continues to rise but what's interesting is what this lot want? "MONEY" someone running short of cash for xmas by sounds of it..

what i don't understand if they are going to implement this why aren't they extending to pubs too ?

makes no sense

They will if it continues to rise but what's interesting is what this lot want? "MONEY" someone running short of cash for xmas by sounds of it..

How very flippant Al, you are better than that.

What are the grounds of the challenge ? - If in law they can do it - then what court will overrule them ? -

Personally I think Drakeford and his whole party are a typical bunch of control freaks that want to contain and control every aspect of people's lives. It seems to be the 'socialist' way.

Most sensible people will want to have the vaccination and booster and are happy to wear a mask in to get in and out of places. The fact you have had both jabs doesnt mean you cant catch or spread covid19. And a doubled jabbed person person compared to a non jabbed person is equally infectious with it - according to the bbc article I read.

Drakeford has so so so many other things he should be pre occupied with. Welsh Ambulance Service (crap), Welsh Cancer treatment times (crap), welsh economy (private sector - not great), help welsh exports post brexit , getting NHS waiting times down.

Improving the education if kids post lockdown, sorting out the decaying high st , homelessness etc etc

All these are real world problems and yet Sergent Drickhead just wants to increase yet more red tape from his little red tower down the bay.

He's never worked in the real world or in the private sector or run his company - had to sell goods or turn a profit. He's worked as a social admin teacher that became a politician. Getting him to run anything is like asking Worzel Gummidge to try brain surgery.

Public mask wearing - Im ok with that in shops and entering large venues etc - but how on earth you will Police it in a concert or when 76,000 p1ss heads watch the egg. How he ever got to be First Minister is a miracle.

what i don't understand if they are going to implement this why aren't they extending to pubs too ?

makes no sense

They will if it continues to rise but what's interesting is what this lot want? "MONEY" someone running short of cash for xmas by sounds of it..

How very flippant Al, you are better than that.

Maybe flippant but agree about spreading passports as drakeford and his idiot AMs are power mad and no idea what they're doing as passports do not stop spread of covid even boris can see that hence not in England.... as for the money bit he says need money also used crowd funding to pay costs of bringing action I have problem with where the extra money goes with these things? I am a sceptic as to motives for such actions and who is accountable for the funds..... people have made fortunes by setting up organisations and using public to fund their organisations whilst taking money out as reimbursement for so called expenses..... as your an anti vaccinator what's your view on people intimidating children? That is wrong on every level and cannot
get any lower form of life.... personally would use water cannons on the morons...

They're a waste of time anyway, either have validated official ones or don't have any.

What's the point when anyone who wants to use a venue just gets hold of, or pretends they've done a negative lateral flow test?

Either you're vaccinated and can prove it and go in, or you're medically excused and can prove it, the idea of them is to persuade the remaining reluctant people to have them and it works to a certain extent, as most people would have them to do what they like, holidays, pubs, football etc.

Ironically the same people who don't want vaccines and try and persuade people not to have them, then moan the most when governments want lockdowns?

What are the grounds of the challenge ? - If in law they can do it - then what court will overrule them ? -

Personally I think Drakeford and his whole party are a typical bunch of control freaks that want to contain and control every aspect of people's lives. It seems to be the 'socialist' way.

Most sensible people will want to have the vaccination and booster and are happy to wear a mask in to get in and out of places. The fact you have had both jabs doesnt mean you cant catch or spread covid19. And a doubled jabbed person person compared to a non jabbed person is equally infectious with it - according to the bbc article I read.

Drakeford has so so so many other things he should be pre occupied with. Welsh Ambulance Service (crap), Welsh Cancer treatment times (crap), welsh economy (private sector - not great), help welsh exports post brexit , getting NHS waiting times down.

Improving the education if kids post lockdown, sorting out the decaying high st , homelessness etc etc

All these are real world problems and yet Sergent Drickhead just wants to increase yet more red tape from his little red tower down the bay.

He's never worked in the real world or in the private sector or run his company - had to sell goods or turn a profit. He's worked as a social admin teacher that became a politician. Getting him to run anything is like asking Worzel Gummidge to try brain surgery.

Public mask wearing - Im ok with that in shops and entering large venues etc - but how on earth you will Police it in a concert or when 76,000 p1ss heads watch the egg. How he ever got to be First Minister is a miracle.

Here is the pre action letter sent to the WAG.

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/wp-conte ... acted1.pdf


It's 21 pages long but an interesting read. In summary the legal claim is that Vaccine passports are against Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights and Section 45D of the Public Health (Control of disaeses) 1984. It also flies in the face of the advice of the Welsh Governments own TAC who don't support it as there is no scientific bases to support their introduction.

Going to be interesting.

What are the grounds of the challenge ? - If in law they can do it - then what court will overrule them ? -

Personally I think Drakeford and his whole party are a typical bunch of control freaks that want to contain and control every aspect of people's lives. It seems to be the 'socialist' way.

Most sensible people will want to have the vaccination and booster and are happy to wear a mask in to get in and out of places. The fact you have had both jabs doesnt mean you cant catch or spread covid19. And a doubled jabbed person person compared to a non jabbed person is equally infectious with it - according to the bbc article I read.

Drakeford has so so so many other things he should be pre occupied with. Welsh Ambulance Service (crap), Welsh Cancer treatment times (crap), welsh economy (private sector - not great), help welsh exports post brexit , getting NHS waiting times down.

Improving the education if kids post lockdown, sorting out the decaying high st , homelessness etc etc

All these are real world problems and yet Sergent Drickhead just wants to increase yet more red tape from his little red tower down the bay.

He's never worked in the real world or in the private sector or run his company - had to sell goods or turn a profit. He's worked as a social admin teacher that became a politician. Getting him to run anything is like asking Worzel Gummidge to try brain surgery.

Public mask wearing - Im ok with that in shops and entering large venues etc - but how on earth you will Police it in a concert or when 76,000 p1ss heads watch the egg. How he ever got to be First Minister is a miracle.

Here is the pre action letter sent to the WAG.

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/wp-conte ... acted1.pdf


It's 21 pages long but an interesting read. In summary the legal claim is that Vaccine passports are against Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights and Section 45D of the Public Health (Control of disaeses) 1984. It also flies in the face of the advice of the Welsh Governments own TAC who don't support it as there is no scientific bases to support their introduction.

Going to be interesting.

It will be, he needs to be challenged, I'm with you Wales is in a mess and he's trying to make a name for himself, it is about time people stood up to him and the welsh assembly!!!

Maybe flippant but agree about spreading passports as drakeford and his idiot AMs are power mad and no idea what they're doing as passports do not stop spread of covid even boris can see that hence not in England.... as for the money bit he says need money also used crowd funding to pay costs of bringing action I have problem with where the extra money goes with these things? I am a sceptic as to motives for such actions and who is accountable for the funds..... people have made fortunes by setting up organisations and using public to fund their organisations whilst taking money out as reimbursement for so called expenses..... as your an anti vaccinator what's your view on people intimidating children? That is wrong on every level and cannot
get any lower form of life.... personally would use water cannons on the morons...

Firstly, let us all get the terminology right, I am not (and I suspect most who have decided not to take this particular vaccine) an anti-vaxxer. This is a phrase thrown around by MSM for obvious reasons.

Secondly, I had not heard of the teenager intimidation. I think it was Sneggy who mentioned it on a previous thread and now you. I googled it and read the story.

My reaction is utter disgust and condemnation. My point has always been, and will remain, that every individual has the right to choose their own path. I do not actively discourage anybody from taking the jab as I vehemently believe in freewill. But likewise, I find it dissapointing, to say the least, that many do not show those who have decided to abstain the same courtesy.

Jab passports ‘don’t work’ in terms of any control of infections. ‘They’ know that.

They are not being introduced for public health but public control. They will morph into digital ID & a Chinese-style social credit system. That’s always been the end goal of the last 2 years.

(See my posts from 2 yrs ago).

Many of you will have noticed how this is now morphing into ‘climate crisis.’

This is no surprise as –if you think about it- -to achieve ‘Net Zero’ TPTB need a way to deprive you of your life as you knew it and standard of living which can only be achieved through control. What better way than to achieve this through first frightening most people to death and restricting/removing freedoms on health grounds?

Not saying there isn’t a virus but for the controllers no crisis goes to waste.

Jab passports ‘don’t work’ in terms of any control of infections. ‘They’ know that.

They are not being introduced for public health but public control. They will morph into digital ID & a Chinese-style social credit system. That’s always been the end goal of the last 2 years.

(See my posts from 2 yrs ago).

Many of you will have noticed how this is now morphing into ‘climate crisis.’

This is no surprise as –if you think about it- -to achieve ‘Net Zero’ TPTB need a way to deprive you of your life as you knew it and standard of living which can only be achieved through control. What better way than to achieve this through first frightening most people to death and restricting/removing freedoms on health grounds?

Not saying there isn’t a virus but for the controllers no crisis goes to waste.

The great reset, I've noticed that people who read and believe this theory are against the vaccines, it's a clever theory because it can be made to look like the two things are connected, so slightly believable for anti establishment type people.

Jab passports ‘don’t work’ in terms of any control of infections. ‘They’ know that.

They are not being introduced for public health but public control. They will morph into digital ID & a Chinese-style social credit system. That’s always been the end goal of the last 2 years.

(See my posts from 2 yrs ago).

Many of you will have noticed how this is now morphing into ‘climate crisis.’

This is no surprise as –if you think about it- -to achieve ‘Net Zero’ TPTB need a way to deprive you of your life as you knew it and standard of living which can only be achieved through control. What better way than to achieve this through first frightening most people to death and restricting/removing freedoms on health grounds?

Not saying there isn’t a virus but for the controllers no crisis goes to waste.

The great reset, I've noticed that people who read and believe this theory are against the vaccines, it's a clever theory because it can be made to look like the two things are connected, so slightly believable for anti establishment type people.

You may have seen every high –ranking Western politician wearing the ‘build-back better’ badge. Perhaps you missed them.

There is no conspiracy surrounding the ‘Great Reset/Fourth Industrial Revolution’ apart from that directed at (primarily) the people of the Western Capitalist nations.

This, of course goes unsaid by the media propagandist organisations and propagandists. For those who are not prepared to indulge in a little free/critical thinking and relatively easy research ignorance is bliss. And to be fair, there are so many distractions aimed at the masses this is in part understandable.

The World Economic Forum and UN publish their plans and Mr Schwab has produced some lovely videos. Whilst it can be tough going and there is plenty of high falutin’ noble sounding language a little reading allied to some thought and analysis gives one a fairly clear view of what is intended for us plebs. It ain't pretty and it ain’t freedom.

The carbon they intend to reduce is the lives of you and me.

UN Agenda 21
UN Agenda 2030
Global Migration Compact
World Economic Forum

Let’s Get this right if you had the vaccine purely for freedom then you ain’t free and this is only the start. Welsh Labour are the pits of society. Who are they to have control over one’s body ? That goes against every human right going. No better than the Nazis. If they get away with this what next ? And yeah the Nazi party started by denying certain groups freedoms.
Dickford and co are wankers and I hope one day they get there just deserts.

Another two bob champagne socialist.. Pontcanna's full of em.

Let’s Get this right if you had the vaccine purely for freedom then you ain’t free and this is only the start. Welsh Labour are the pits of society. Who are they to have control over one’s body ? That goes against every human right going. No better than the Nazis. If they get away with this what next ? And yeah the Nazi party started by denying certain groups freedoms.
Dickford and co are wankers and I hope one day they get there just deserts.

As to Drakeford and Co they are simply doing what they are told and raking it in along the way.

I read tonight that Austria is to announce (forced) isolation of those who have not chosen to have the clotshot.
If true
Good old Adolf!

been following whats happening in Australia and it looks like they are starting to rise up against these covid passports etc specifically Melbourne . nothing on main stream news of course


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtUwp2jicM&t=65s

Let’s Get this right if you had the vaccine purely for freedom then you ain’t free and this is only the start. Welsh Labour are the pits of society. Who are they to have control over one’s body ? That goes against every human right going. No better than the Nazis. If they get away with this what next ? And yeah the Nazi party started by denying certain groups freedoms.
Dickford and co are wankers and I hope one day they get there just deserts.

Are you for real???????????????????????? You're comparing the Welsh labour party, who are a bunch of idiots, to the nazi party ? You have lost your mind.

All this comparing a pandemic & the various ways that governments the world over have tried to get it under control to what happened with Hitler & the nazis is about as far fetched & ridiculous as is possible and anyone who thinks that they are the same needs to take a serious look at themselves. Especially on this day of all days.

Jab passports ‘don’t work’ in terms of any control of infections. ‘They’ know that.

They are not being introduced for public health but public control. They will morph into digital ID & a Chinese-style social credit system. That’s always been the end goal of the last 2 years.

(See my posts from 2 yrs ago).

Many of you will have noticed how this is now morphing into ‘climate crisis.’

This is no surprise as –if you think about it- -to achieve ‘Net Zero’ TPTB need a way to deprive you of your life as you knew it and standard of living which can only be achieved through control. What better way than to achieve this through first frightening most people to death and restricting/removing freedoms on health grounds?

Not saying there isn’t a virus but for the controllers no crisis goes to waste.

The great reset, I've noticed that people who read and believe this theory are against the vaccines, it's a clever theory because it can be made to look like the two things are connected, so slightly believable for anti establishment type people.

The Great Reset is not a "theory", it's an agenda proposed by the World Economic Forum that is active now and has been decades in the making. All documented and all easily accessible online. Please realise it is not a theory.

Jab passports ‘don’t work’ in terms of any control of infections. ‘They’ know that.

They are not being introduced for public health but public control. They will morph into digital ID & a Chinese-style social credit system. That’s always been the end goal of the last 2 years.

(See my posts from 2 yrs ago).

Many of you will have noticed how this is now morphing into ‘climate crisis.’

This is no surprise as –if you think about it- -to achieve ‘Net Zero’ TPTB need a way to deprive you of your life as you knew it and standard of living which can only be achieved through control. What better way than to achieve this through first frightening most people to death and restricting/removing freedoms on health grounds?

Not saying there isn’t a virus but for the controllers no crisis goes to waste.

The great reset, I've noticed that people who read and believe this theory are against the vaccines, it's a clever theory because it can be made to look like the two things are connected, so slightly believable for anti establishment type people.

You may have seen every high –ranking Western politician wearing the ‘build-back better’ badge. Perhaps you missed them.

There is no conspiracy surrounding the ‘Great Reset/Fourth Industrial Revolution’ apart from that directed at (primarily) the people of the Western Capitalist nations.

This, of course goes unsaid by the media propagandist organisations and propagandists. For those who are not prepared to indulge in a little free/critical thinking and relatively easy research ignorance is bliss. And to be fair, there are so many distractions aimed at the masses this is in part understandable.

The World Economic Forum and UN publish their plans and Mr Schwab has produced some lovely videos. Whilst it can be tough going and there is plenty of high falutin’ noble sounding language a little reading allied to some thought and analysis gives one a fairly clear view of what is intended for us plebs. It ain't pretty and it ain’t freedom.

The carbon they intend to reduce is the lives of you and me.

UN Agenda 21
UN Agenda 2030
Global Migration Compact
World Economic Forum

You are correct.

It seems that people will realise this when it is far too late and the digital trap is imposed upon the majority of people.

Safety and convenience sadly take precedence for society thesedays.

Ironically, dangerous freedom is far, far safer than the "safe" world the current government cronies are proposing for people.

Let’s Get this right if you had the vaccine purely for freedom then you ain’t free and this is only the start. Welsh Labour are the pits of society. Who are they to have control over one’s body ? That goes against every human right going. No better than the Nazis. If they get away with this what next ? And yeah the Nazi party started by denying certain groups freedoms.
Dickford and co are wankers and I hope one day they get there just deserts.

Are you for real???????????????????????? You're comparing the Welsh labour party, who are a bunch of idiots, to the nazi party ? You have lost your mind.

All this comparing a pandemic & the various ways that governments the world over have tried to get it under control to what happened with Hitler & the nazis is about as far fetched & ridiculous as is possible and anyone who thinks that they are the same needs to take a serious look at themselves. Especially on this day of all days.

What you need to realise, is that there are no real governments around the world making individual decisions as it's portrayed. They are all following orders from NGO's and do not answer to the people any more.

People don't like comparisons to Nazis and Hitler, but the current governments will not be fondly remembered for the freedoms they took from us and never returned to the people. Although, I doubt we will be fortunate enough to air or have critical opinions on topics any more once digital IDs are in place.

Let’s Get this right if you had the vaccine purely for freedom then you ain’t free and this is only the start. Welsh Labour are the pits of society. Who are they to have control over one’s body ? That goes against every human right going. No better than the Nazis. If they get away with this what next ? And yeah the Nazi party started by denying certain groups freedoms.
Dickford and co are wankers and I hope one day they get there just deserts.

Are you for real???????????????????????? You're comparing the Welsh labour party, who are a bunch of idiots, to the nazi party ? You have lost your mind.

All this comparing a pandemic & the various ways that governments the world over have tried to get it under control to what happened with Hitler & the nazis is about as far fetched & ridiculous as is possible and anyone who thinks that they are the same needs to take a serious look at themselves. Especially on this day of all days.

Yep very much for real. Did the Nazi party start out in a murderous fashion ? Nope. Don’t even think something like the Nazis can never happen again because it can and will happen again.
If you think these restrictions are a one off you are sleep walking into a hell hole. Denying a person a liberty and forcing/coheres/ or bullying people into putting something into there body they don’t want is fascism.
Just because you agree with this now the next loss of freedoms you might not agree with.
The Nazi party started of as a socialist party. What are Labour ?

Maybe flippant but agree about spreading passports as drakeford and his idiot AMs are power mad and no idea what they're doing as passports do not stop spread of covid even boris can see that hence not in England.... as for the money bit he says need money also used crowd funding to pay costs of bringing action I have problem with where the extra money goes with these things? I am a sceptic as to motives for such actions and who is accountable for the funds..... people have made fortunes by setting up organisations and using public to fund their organisations whilst taking money out as reimbursement for so called expenses..... as your an anti vaccinator what's your view on people intimidating children? That is wrong on every level and cannot
get any lower form of life.... personally would use water cannons on the morons...

Firstly, let us all get the terminology right, I am not (and I suspect most who have decided not to take this particular vaccine) an anti-vaxxer. This is a phrase thrown around by MSM for obvious reasons.

Secondly, I had not heard of the teenager intimidation. I think it was Sneggy who mentioned it on a previous thread and now you. I googled it and read the story.

In view of the medical evidence around the World there is absolutely no justification for 'jabbing ' children.

My reaction is utter disgust and condemnation. My point has always been, and will remain, that every individual has the right to choose their own path. I do not actively discourage anybody from taking the jab as I vehemently believe in freewill. But likewise, I find it dissapointing, to say the least, that many do not show those who have decided to abstain the same courtesy.

Yes I've seen some of his boring video's and plenty of others and read most of the articles, a lot are like the antivax propaganda, this one is probably the quickest simplest to get a overview of the situation.

Some quotes for people that haven't got time, or you could skip to the last ten/five minutes.

"The World economic forum is a non government organisation, like a book club for woke billionaires."

"The great reset may as well be the great Gatsby"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mpsro3s5pI&t=13s

Yes of course there will be evolution and change, but the governments of the world didn't all get together, ask the Chinese to make a virus in a lab and release it, then all agree to say it's worse than it is and lockdown country's just to see if they can, then make everyone have a vaccine so they could excerpt control, then bring out vaccine passports to control the people then blah blah blah, that's where the theory and conspiracy comes from.

Jab passports ‘don’t work’ in terms of any control of infections. ‘They’ know that.

They are not being introduced for public health but public control. They will morph into digital ID & a Chinese-style social credit system. That’s always been the end goal of the last 2 years.

(See my posts from 2 yrs ago).

Many of you will have noticed how this is now morphing into ‘climate crisis.’

This is no surprise as –if you think about it- -to achieve ‘Net Zero’ TPTB need a way to deprive you of your life as you knew it and standard of living which can only be achieved through control. What better way than to achieve this through first frightening most people to death and restricting/removing freedoms on health grounds?

Not saying there isn’t a virus but for the controllers no crisis goes to waste.

The great reset, I've noticed that people who read and believe this theory are against the vaccines, it's a clever theory because it can be made to look like the two things are connected, so slightly believable for anti establishment type people.

The Great Reset is not a "theory", it's an agenda proposed by the World Economic Forum that is active now and has been decades in the making. All documented and all easily accessible online. Please realise it is not a theory.

I know what it is a woke billionaires club that meet in Davos, the theory is the anti establishment spin off, they'll take our cars, homes, money, all that nonsense!!!

"The World economic forum is a non government organisation, like a book club for woke billionaires."

You know what that is an excellent analogy. And like all book clubs, the WEF is able to summon pretty much every World leader to Glasgow for a nice chat about the weather.

I'm sure their is nothing nefarious about World leaders adopting and implementing policy under the banner of a global non-governmental organisation founded by a financial elite and brazenly doing so with the WEF's catchy 'build back better' slogan.

No siree Bob, nothing to see here but some good old chums, sharing a good old read of the classics(1984, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and Hunger Games are the books of choice this year).

Its a PR exercise thats needed thats all and by jove - I think you've cracked it. Simply switch the words "shadowy evil cabal openly establishing a neo-fuedalist one world government" with "bookclub" and it makes all the problems go away.

"The World economic forum is a non government organisation, like a book club for woke billionaires."

You know what that is an excellent analogy. And like all book clubs, the WEF is able to summon pretty much every World leader to Glasgow for a nice chat about the weather.

I'm sure their is nothing nefarious about World leaders adopting and implementing policy under the banner of a global non-governmental organisation founded by a financial elite and brazenly doing so with the WEF's catchy 'build back better' slogan.

No siree Bob, nothing to see here but some good old chums, sharing a good old read of the classics(1984, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and Hunger Games are the books of choice this year).

Its a PR exercise thats needed thats all and by jove - I think you've cracked it. Simply switch the words "shadowy evil cabal openly establishing a neo-fuedalist one world government" with "bookclub" and it makes all the problems go away.

Sir Ealing (probably the best read and most knowledgeable person on this forum [too scared to say bloke, I might get cancelled]), thank you for showing Bluebina the truth. It's his choice whether he believes you or not, but at least you tried.

"The World economic forum is a non government organisation, like a book club for woke billionaires."

You know what that is an excellent analogy. And like all book clubs, the WEF is able to summon pretty much every World leader to Glasgow for a nice chat about the weather.

I'm sure their is nothing nefarious about World leaders adopting and implementing policy under the banner of a global non-governmental organisation founded by a financial elite and brazenly doing so with the WEF's catchy 'build back better' slogan.

No siree Bob, nothing to see here but some good old chums, sharing a good old read of the classics(1984, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and Hunger Games are the books of choice this year).

Its a PR exercise thats needed thats all and by jove - I think you've cracked it. Simply switch the words "shadowy evil cabal openly establishing a neo-fuedalist one world government" with "bookclub" and it makes all the problems go away.

Sir Ealing (probably the best read and most knowledgeable person on this forum [too scared to say bloke, I might get cancelled]), thank you for showing Bluebina the truth. It's his choice whether he believes you or not, but at least you tried.

Thank you for the kind words mate, but there are plenty of smart folks kicking around here, yourself included

As for young 'Bina he's a good guy, wrong on this particular topic from where I'm standing, but prepared to at least have the conversation in a polite and constructive manner whenever we've traded opinions and that is an increasingly rare trait I've got a lot of time for.