“ Chris Wilder “

Chris Wilder recently turned down Nottingham Forest due to financial concerns and their lowly league position, so how is Cardiff any different?

As bleak as the current situation is though, Forest should actually offer some comfort. They eventually hired Steve Cooper and subsequently won their next five games, so it just shows the transformative effect a good manager can have."

It’s happened before with us on many occasions new manager and a great run of results.


Could anyone tell me why though Chris Wilder would chose us?

And remember now what our Chairman Dalman said this weekend about his own boss Tan and N0 money in January or next season.

Chris Wilder recently turned down Nottingham Forest due to financial concerns and their lowly league position, so how is Cardiff any different?

As bleak as the current situation is though, Forest should actually offer some comfort. They eventually hired Steve Cooper and subsequently won their next five games, so it just shows the transformative effect a good manager can have."

It’s happened before with us on many occasions new manager and a great run of results.


Could anyone tell me why though Chris Wilder would chose us?

And remember now what our Chairman Dalman said this weekend about his own boss Tan and N0 money in January or next season.

I agree, I'd love Wilder here but just can't see our position being attractive to him.

Although weren't Forest already under an embargo ? Genuine question as there were a number of clubs in that position.

If Wilder did come here I would question how accurate the stuff Dalman has been saying actually is. He would at least want some leeway in the January window to be tempted.

We hired Mick McCarthy and he went 12 or 13 games un beaten - then look what happened.

If Wilder expects a perfect club to appoint him - he'll be waiting a long time for the call.

I can see plenty of reasons he would want to manage us.

And plenty he wouldn't.

As with any manager appointment. None of us actually have a scooby about what's really being done and said behind closed doors.

I can see plenty of reasons he would want to manage us.

And plenty he wouldn't.

As with any manager appointment. None of us actually have a scooby about what's really being done and said behind closed doors.

Agree.

I don’t think Wilder will come here,but I certainly don’t believe all I read that is put out by clubs and individuals.There does seem little between Forest and ourselves.
But as you say Annis a new manager can definitely get his new team going.

Because we are a big club with a wealthy owner who does back us when the chips are down. We have good players who are low on confidence this is the perfect match for him and us, he's been to watch us recently, I think we will get him

I can see plenty of reasons he would want to manage us.

And plenty he wouldn't.

As with any manager appointment. None of us actually have a scooby about what's really being done and said behind closed doors.

Give me the reasons why Wilder could or should join us?

Despite what been said by some we are good catch for the right man.. as for forest theres been issues with their supporters over the owner... think most clubs got issues somewhere do wilder will go where he thinks he will have good chance of success? Long term city can have success with right manager...
Heared he was reluctant to come too city? Must be reporter from
a Swansea rag because no manager will say that he'll either wants job or not ...only internal people are reluctant to take over a club.. ..
Reason yo come here.... we ate one of bigger clubs with great potential great fans and given right conditions could take us far... reasons not to come the board set up but Dalman said open to dof.

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Because we are a big club with a wealthy owner who does back us when the chips are down. We have good players who are low on confidence this is the perfect match for him and us, he's been to watch us recently, I think we will get him

This. Of course we're attractive. When he says a 'top' championship club. I think most would say that pretty much defines us. Of course we're underperforming, but would it be that hard for a good coach to get us firing again? Making him look the absolute dogs bollocks and uniting a fan base. A bit like NW did!

I'm sure our club will ay least have a chat with him, whether he's what our hierarchy want or what he wants will come out of that chat. We'll know soon enough.

I can see plenty of reasons he would want to manage us.

And plenty he wouldn't.

As with any manager appointment. None of us actually have a scooby about what's really being done and said behind closed doors.

Give me the reasons why Wilder could or should join us?

Wilder said himself that his next club will probably be one that is in a bad position. He's also been linked with championship clubs this season. Its not completely unrealistic that he wouldn't come here.

At the moment any new manager would only be re arranging the deck chairs on the titanic until January.The most lop sided squad I can remember for a while.

Wilder has already said recently that his next job will probably be in the championship with a club that is broken - Hmmm (to coin a phrase)

Forrest Wanted cooper and never offered Wilder the job, so cant see how he turned it down ?

We have a decent midfielder and a mis firing winger that could come back in January should the new manager want, and Wilder is one that could get them playing better.

I would actually be as excited by him coming as I was with Warnock, purely based on the style of football, as both are established and whilst Warnock has had more promotions Wilder has done it more often more recently.

As much as I hope it happens I don’t think it will though, not because Wilder would turn us down, I don’t think Tan will look at him in the first instance, which again IMO is short sighted.

I can see plenty of reasons he would want to manage us.

And plenty he wouldn't.

As with any manager appointment. None of us actually have a scooby about what's really being done and said behind closed doors.

Give me the reasons why Wilder could or should join us?

Top championship club. Taking any emotion out of it, from a neutrals perspective, we are.

Underperforming squad. Can't be too hard to turn it around if he's as good as his reputation says.

Great fan base that would be easy to win over.

A project. Chance to cement an identity on not just a team but a club.

These guys aren't fans like us. They just want to coach and have a degree of success. I think that's probably the most important factor. Success to most of us fans is to stay up this year. Is that really that difficult to achieve from here?!

Oh and lastly. He seems like he's ready now to get back in to management.

What better club is about to be looking for a manager? No one at the top end of the league is going to lose their boss.

Hull, Derby, Preston, Birmingham, Barnsley. Just looking around us. Would they be more attractive than us?

To add Norwich in the PL possibly?

I can see plenty of reasons he would want to manage us.

And plenty he wouldn't.

As with any manager appointment. None of us actually have a scooby about what's really being done and said behind closed doors.

Give me the reasons why Wilder could or should join us?

I think back to the Warnock appointment. Warnock was a manager with a track record who got the agreement of the board to provide money for Bamba and Hoilett when he came in. Now I know that these were the signing of free agents, but the board had to stump up money to encourage Warnock to come, as ongoing wages are a far greater financial commitment than transfer fees. There wasn't supposed to be any money at that time, but it was found for the right man.

Although Wilder may not have 2 players to bring with him, he almost certainly has access to a couple of trusted favourites who could be brought in in January. He developed Sheffield United from a League 1 team to the Premier League, and the number of youngsters coming through here may well persuade him that he can develop another team.
His first season in League 1 the Blades only had 1 point after 4 games, but went on to win the title with 100 points.

He once left Oxford, who he had brought from the Conference to League safety, to go to Northampton. He helped them avoid relegation from the Football League and the following year he took them to promotion from League 2. They had so little money that their players weren't paid in October and November!

He strikes me as the ideal fit for our club, and our club is the ideal fit for him. A relatively small outlay should get him.

No premier league club would appoint him as manager so he is looking at championship clubs. All the top championship clubs, Fulham WBA and Bournemouth are doing well and not likely to be changing their managers this season. We are the only championship club who have a vacancy and in terms of size of the club are as good as most in this division. He may well take the job on the basis no one better may come along for quite a while and any significantly bigger club than us would have a bigger pool to chose from.

Personally I think we should go all out to get him if he doesn't want the job so be it.

No premier league club would appoint him as manager so he is looking at championship clubs. All the top championship clubs, Fulham WBA and Bournemouth are doing well and not likely to be changing their managers this season. We are the only championship club who have a vacancy and in terms of size of the club are as good as most in this division. He may well take the job on the basis no one better may come along for quite a while and any significantly bigger club than us would have a bigger pool to chose from.

Personally I think we should go all out to get him if he doesn't want the job so be it.

Agreed he looks the perfect fit at the moment, it will suit us both, I really like the thought of him bringing in more youngsters and forming a good relationship with Steve Morrison, I think he could work well with Wilder and there maybe some other role he could do with the squad over and above the under 23's. The more I think about it the more I feel we should do what we can to get him!

You’ve forgot our reputation is shot and working for Tan is a put off nowadays big time to good managers


Well let’s see if we get a real good manager or another puppet who says we have a big squad, positions all covered and full of quality.

Harris and McCarthy both said these statements abd then suddenly when they saw their heads on the chopping board and Dalman was No longer going to back them they both soon changed their statements etc.

If Chris Wilder takes the job, I will be more than happy and shocked, but he will be fully supported by me

You’ve forgot our reputation is shot and working for Tan is a put off nowadays big time to good managers


Well let’s see if we get a real good manager or another puppet who says we have a big squad, positions all covered and full of quality.

Harris and McCarthy both said these statements abd then suddenly when they saw their heads on the chopping board and Dalman was No longer going to back them they both soon changed their statements etc.

Even though Tan maybe a problem - Wilder may still see us as a stepping stone back into the PL. at the end of the day we all use each other for something. Any big offers come in for players - we'll probably sell and they would want to go. Management no different I guess.

If he wants a struggling championship club - he couldnt do much better than the shower of sh1t we have both on and off the pitch. No lose situation for Wilder.

With everything that Dalman is supposed to have said, it makes me wonder what he has been doing and paid for?

And yes, if we can get him Wilder is my first choice.

You’ve forgot our reputation is shot and working for Tan is a put off nowadays big time to good managers


Well let’s see if we get a real good manager or another puppet who says we have a big squad, positions all covered and full of quality.

Harris and McCarthy both said these statements abd then suddenly when they saw their heads on the chopping board and Dalman was No longer going to back them they both soon changed their statements etc.

Even though Tan maybe a problem - Wilder may still see us as a stepping stone back into the PL. at the end of the day we all use each other for something. Any big offers come in for players - we'll probably sell and they would want to go. Management no different I guess.

If he wants a struggling championship club - he couldnt do much better than the shower of sh1t we have both on and off the pitch. No lose situation for Wilder.

I really don't think Wilder will come but he is big mates with Warnock and, by all accounts, Warnock left on pretty good terms with Tan so may he'll have a word in Wilder's ear

One thing is for sure, Wilder would certainly be the most universally popular choice with the fans, even if people like me would rather us finally take a risk and give it to someone younger like Hudson, Ainsworth, etc.

I'd be surprised if he agreed to come to Cardiff.

I can't imagine he rates this squad to potentially turn things around

In addition, it has been suggested that whoever comes to Cardiff will have no money to sign players in the next transfer window. This means attempting to attract free transfers and loan signings.

Not very attractive when he would be inheriting a team in free-fall and with a relegation battle during the second half of the season.

Cardiff is still a relatively big club and if we were able to survive in the championship this season , we could have next season to stabilise (bearing in mind we have been told that there is no money in January/ next summer)
We are a similar size to Sheffield United and Wilder took them on in a worse position.
There will always be managers interested in a club like us but it’s the style of football Tan wants that maybe a bigger hurdle than our current position....what manager with any ambition wants to get a reputation for being a long ball merchant????

Cardiff is still a relatively big club and if we were able to survive in the championship this season , we could have next season to stabilise (bearing in mind we have been told that there is no money in January/ next summer)
We are a similar size to Sheffield United and Wilder took them on in a worse position.
There will always be managers interested in a club like us but it’s the style of football Tan wants that maybe a bigger hurdle than our current position....what manager with any ambition wants to get a reputation for being a long ball merchant????

Chris Wilder 'unlikely' to be next boss and Bluebirds chief claims squad is 'too good' to be in relegation scrap



Here are your Cardiff City headlines for Monday, October 25.

Chris Wilder 'unlikely' to take Cardiff job

Bookmakers' favourite Chris Wilder is unlikely to take over as Cardiff City manager, the BBC have claimed.

Former Sheffield United boss Wilder has been the heavy favourite since Mick McCarthy was sacked by the Bluebirds at the weekend.

It is no coincidence that has been the case following his appearance in the stands at Craven Cottage last Wednesday when Cardiff lost 2-0 to Fulham in McCarthy's penultimate match.

However, the BBC claim his appointment is far from a forgone conclusion.

"The bookies favourite is Chris Wilder," BBC football correspondent Rob Phillips said on Radio Wales on Monday morning.

"He was just sat behind me at the Fulham game last week. I think Cardiff would be interested in him, although we are hearing that now seems unlikely as he is out of Cardiff’s type of budget.

"Jody Morris, the (former) Chelsea No,2 to Frank Lampard and was in their academy, he has come into consideration as well.

"And there is Brian Barry-Murphy, who runs the Manchester City under-23s.

"I think what Cardiff have to do now... they are caught between needing someone with experience to try and keep them up this season. If Barnsley had won [Cardiff] would have been in the bottom three, but Barnsley lost to Sheffield United.

"They have got to tally that with... it is time that the club had a distinct philosophy in place and they need to give someone time.

"They've got to decide what they want. Do they want a hungry coach, like Mark Hudson, former captain, or Mike Flynn, the former Newport County manager who is out of work and on their doorstep?

"Or do they need someone more experienced?

"I think the Cardiff fans would be ready now to go with someone, give them two or three years and try and change the way the club play."

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Chris Wilder 'unlikely' to be next boss and Bluebirds chief claims squad is 'too good' to be in relegation scrap



Here are your Cardiff City headlines for Monday, October 25.

Chris Wilder 'unlikely' to take Cardiff job

Bookmakers' favourite Chris Wilder is unlikely to take over as Cardiff City manager, the BBC have claimed.

Former Sheffield United boss Wilder has been the heavy favourite since Mick McCarthy was sacked by the Bluebirds at the weekend.

It is no coincidence that has been the case following his appearance in the stands at Craven Cottage last Wednesday when Cardiff lost 2-0 to Fulham in McCarthy's penultimate match.

However, the BBC claim his appointment is far from a forgone conclusion.

"The bookies favourite is Chris Wilder," BBC football correspondent Rob Phillips said on Radio Wales on Monday morning.

"He was just sat behind me at the Fulham game last week. I think Cardiff would be interested in him, although we are hearing that now seems unlikely as out of Cardiff’s type of budget.”

"Jody Morris, the (former) Chelsea No,2 to Frank Lampard and was in their academy, he has come into consideration as well.

"And there is Brian Barry-Murphy, who runs the Manchester City under-23s.

"I think what Cardiff have to do now... they are caught between needing someone with experience to try and keep them up this season. If Barnsley had won [Cardiff] would have been in the bottom three, but Barnsley lost to Sheffield United.

"They have got to tally that with... it is time that the club had a distinct philosophy in place and they need to give someone time.

"They've got to decide what they want. Do they want a hungry coach, like Mark Hudson, former captain, or Mike Flynn, the former Newport County manager who is out of work and on their doorstep?

"Or do they need someone more experienced?

"I think the Cardiff fans would be ready now to go with someone, give them two or three years and try and change the way the club play."

Think it's time to take a chance as getting another experience manager for 2yrs is not going forward... unless its pulis or big sam strictly to end season but it would also need a statement of what club intends to do at end season to satisfy the fans... one thing is sure we are 3entering a crucial stage for the club and next season wont have a better chance to change whole ethos of club with so many players out contract and decent academy players in the wings.

Reasons to come here?
Decent size club.
Decent owner.
Decent city.
Decent players
Just hope he doesn't read this forum as anyone would run a mile.

Reasons to come here?
Decent size club.
Decent owner.
Decent city.
Decent players
Just hope he doesn't read this forum as anyone would run a mile.

Or does not Spk to ex players or ex managers or asks for a budget or says he would like Tan to stay away from how he manages the team.

Decent owner the best joke of the century