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Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:05 pm

Is it time for a change?

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:07 pm

It looks like he doesn’t know how to set the team up.

Vaulks, ralls and pack do not work! They are too similar as in not mobile enough.

The second half was better but that’s been the story of the season.

I think we should get rid before it’s too late.

Genuinely think if we don’t win or lose Tuesday he’ll be gone.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:10 pm

Sadly if hes going to keep playing negative then his time is up

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:11 pm

Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 pm

It's not just Harris,we have got some piss poor players aswell.Every game we have the usual suspects put their 4 out of ten performances in and still keep their places for the next game.Poor old Keiffer Moore,no midfield creativity and wingers who can't even beat a man and can't cross. :bluebird:

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:16 pm

Needed an option to give until after xmas

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:18 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.



I have voted no,but he must let loose the 1st half shackles,its killing us,always having to come from behind!! Agree re moore and vaulks,give young harris a run in midfield,and if fit,start glatzel instead of moore,shame he was out today,as we seem to play better when he is on the pitch.ahh well,1st defeat on the road,thought we just about deserved a draw,on 2nd half performance.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:21 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.



I have voted no,but he must let loose the 1st half shackles,its killing us,always having to come from behind!! Agree re moore and vaulks,give young harris a run in midfield,and if fit,start glatzel instead of moore,shame he was out today,as we seem to play better when he is on the pitch.ahh well,1st defeat on the road,thought we just about deserved a draw,on 2nd half performance.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:25 pm

sir ninian wrote:It's not just Harris,we have got some piss poor players aswell.Every game we have the usual suspects put their 4 out of ten performances in and still keep their places for the next game.Poor old Keiffer Moore,no midfield creativity and wingers who can't even beat a man and can't cross. :bluebird:



We do also have some poor players, hoilett looks finished this season, Murphy was alright second half today but whenever he plays he normally lets himself down, vaulks has been shocking this year, bacuna should never be playing right back because he’s not one, Bennett gets caught out all the time, pack is either one of the best on the pitch or the worst. I just can’t see us turning it around and expect a low table finish tbis year

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:29 pm

I voted yes as I just cannot stand watching my team play like this. What is the point of waiting to see if it improves? We’ll be so far off the top 6 by xmas at this rate.
The board must see this as a results business. Last season is history. Thankfully in hindsight we didn’t get promoted as we’d be a laughing stock. They acted with getting Trollop out and should do so now.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:34 pm

It's not the time for Harris to go he just needs to bring in more youngsters like Mark Harris from the academy to mix and match players in midfield and wingers. Because it seems stale throughout the midfield and wingers. Bring in a few more youngsters from the academy into the midfield and as wingers at least then your trying out the youngsters and that could help out the teams morale, energy and potentially bring in quality that could be lurking within the academy. Its too predictable with Ralls, Vaulks and Pack in midfield. And without a winger to help out I can only see 1 result happening.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:35 pm

Not just yet.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:40 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.



I have voted no,but he must let loose the 1st half shackles,its killing us,always having to come from behind!! Agree re moore and vaulks,give young harris a run in midfield,and if fit,start glatzel instead of moore,shame he was out today,as we seem to play better when he is on the pitch.ahh well,1st defeat on the road,thought we just about deserved a draw,on 2nd half performance.


Yes definitely deserved a draw in the end and the winner was worthy of winning any game in fairness. We have to keep Harris until the international break regardless, like I’ve said in another thread if we beat Barnsley then the Wurzels this coming week it’s a different picture and the mood will be much better. But as usual the knee jerkers are out in force after a terrible first half performance.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:40 pm

I've said no, for now, as still think it shouldn't be that difficult to improve our performances. Harris just needs to grow a pair and learn from his mistakes. I said this morning that a trio of vaulks, ralls and pack would result in a similar performance to derby. Quite clearly the case. If I can predict that why can't a professional manager see it!? I said ojo should be shifted into a number 10 role as the mentioned 3 don't offer anything going forward. Second half vaulks goes off for a more attacking player and we cause them problems. Play like that from the start you clown.

Harris needs to set up to beat a team from the start rather than playing a team that he hopes might nick a 1-0 win. 4 goals in 2 games against struggling opposition . His current tactics clesrly are not working. The next 3 games decide his position at the club.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 pm

I said yes.
Our target is the Premier league and he is not and will never be a Premier league manager.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:44 pm

We started the season badly, are continuing playing badly.

Players body language is awful.

We cannot wait any longer as we are heading only 1 way.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:45 pm

Absolutely not!!!

Bunch of miserable and negative tw-ts on here. Give the man until we can no longer make the playoffs.

And start taking your medication again .

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:48 pm

No, far too early to be calling for his head. We've missed Wilson or Tomlin in the attacking midfield role, playing Ralls there is pointless and he has to take blame for that. You could see as soon ralls moved back into the midfield 2 and pushed murphy in there we had a bit more forward impetus and ralls could go about his business the way he knows best in the engine room.

It hasn't been pretty the last couple of games but with tomlin and wilson coming back into the fold and ralls reverting back in to a midfield 2 I think the balance of the team will improve massively. Once the balance is right im sure we'll begin to click. We're missing the young right back aswell.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:50 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Absolutely not!!!

Bunch of miserable and negative tw-ts on here. Give the man until we can no longer make the playoffs.

And start taking your medication again .


And waste a very good squad of players ?
This squad has a very good chance of play offs as a minimum.
Its arguable that with the right manager the automatic places are within reach

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:50 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.



I have voted no,but he must let loose the 1st half shackles,its killing us,always having to come from behind!! Agree re moore and vaulks,give young harris a run in midfield,and if fit,start glatzel instead of moore,shame he was out today,as we seem to play better when he is on the pitch.ahh well,1st defeat on the road,thought we just about deserved a draw,on 2nd half performance.


Yes definitely deserved a draw in the end and the winner was worthy of winning any game in fairness. We have to keep Harris until the international break regardless, like I’ve said in another thread if we beat Barnsley then the Wurzels this coming week it’s a different picture and the mood will be much better. But as usual the knee jerkers are out in force after a terrible first half performance.

It’s not just the first half performance today, it’s been like it every game bar Forest who were even poorer than us. He sets up the team wrong, plays players out of position, there’s obviously problems at training as they’re incapable of defending crosses, passing, tackling and doing the basics. More so it’s how they start a game; QPR & Derby should have been attacked from the off rather than wait until they’re behind.
It’s not working and as the saying goes it needs fixing.
Harris is not the man to fix it.
Unfortunately for us we have a board who know very little about football and will fortunately for Harris see it as a blip as Wilson isn’t playing, and allow the rot to get worse.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:54 pm

I think he is well beneath his level, but i voted NO.....

If you can not adjust, you shouldn't be anywhere near professional sport.

If he can't see that Pack is not Pirlo and Morrison is not Van Dyke and make the necessary adjustment then he needs to go during the international break.

I don't want us to become a hire and fire club, but when the evidence indicates that he has no aptitude for championship football management the we need to pull the trigger.

IMO the players have sussed he isn't up to it or just can't do what he wants.

He cannot be this bad, IMO he is trying to be so different to Warnock its almost a parody. Play to our strengths, up the pace work out the right back situation and try to win from the start........




I guess Eddie Howe is setting his sights on bigger clubs than us.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:58 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.



I have voted no,but he must let loose the 1st half shackles,its killing us,always having to come from behind!! Agree re moore and vaulks,give young harris a run in midfield,and if fit,start glatzel instead of moore,shame he was out today,as we seem to play better when he is on the pitch.ahh well,1st defeat on the road,thought we just about deserved a draw,on 2nd half performance.


Yes definitely deserved a draw in the end and the winner was worthy of winning any game in fairness. We have to keep Harris until the international break regardless, like I’ve said in another thread if we beat Barnsley then the Wurzels this coming week it’s a different picture and the mood will be much better. But as usual the knee jerkers are out in force after a terrible first half performance.



did we... ? 2 penalties after being shredded in the first half... the first half highlights include just 2 touches from a Cardiff player, Mozza heading out for a corner and a Smithies save... we looked like we mite pinch a result ..but deserve one over 90 minutes. ...no...

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:02 pm

Danny Says wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Whilst I think we’ve been awful the last two games, there still an awful lot of football to be played. We have shown glimpses of the team that’s in there. My biggest gripe is that if a player is out of form with Harris they will still play. Vaulks and Moore have been poor for a while now yet are constantly playing. As soon as Vaulks went off we looked much better. And we played a lot less route one football in the second half which almost salvaged us a point, hence why I think we need another striker to be given a chance.



I have voted no,but he must let loose the 1st half shackles,its killing us,always having to come from behind!! Agree re moore and vaulks,give young harris a run in midfield,and if fit,start glatzel instead of moore,shame he was out today,as we seem to play better when he is on the pitch.ahh well,1st defeat on the road,thought we just about deserved a draw,on 2nd half performance.


Yes definitely deserved a draw in the end and the winner was worthy of winning any game in fairness. We have to keep Harris until the international break regardless, like I’ve said in another thread if we beat Barnsley then the Wurzels this coming week it’s a different picture and the mood will be much better. But as usual the knee jerkers are out in force after a terrible first half performance.

It’s not just the first half performance today, it’s been like it every game bar Forest who were even poorer than us. He sets up the team wrong, plays players out of position, there’s obviously problems at training as they’re incapable of defending crosses, passing, tackling and doing the basics. More so it’s how they start a game; QPR & Derby should have been attacked from the off rather than wait until they’re behind.
It’s not working and as the saying goes it needs fixing.
Harris is not the man to fix it.
Unfortunately for us we have a board who know very little about football and will fortunately for Harris see it as a blip as Wilson isn’t playing, and allow the rot to get worse.


Well they aren’t incapable of doing the things you’ve said as they have proved they can at various point throughout the season. I admit the consistency in the aforementioned things is very poor. I think we did go out to attack QPR today, but two abysmal defensive phases and we were backs against the wall. Unfortunately we haven’t got a back up RB so we have no other option than playing Bacuna there. I really do think he feels the pressure of having to start Kieffer though, as he has been really poor. And I can’t understand his reasoning for starting Vaulks either.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:17 pm

Voted no couple wins and all change cmon bluebirds :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:25 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Absolutely not!!!

Bunch of miserable and negative tw-ts on here. Give the man until we can no longer make the playoffs.

And start taking your medication again .



:thumbup:

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:31 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I think he is well beneath his level, but i voted NO.....

If you can not adjust, you shouldn't be anywhere near professional sport.

If he can't see that Pack is not Pirlo and Morrison is not Van Dyke and make the necessary adjustment then he needs to go during the international break.

I don't want us to become a hire and fire club, but when the evidence indicates that he has no aptitude for championship football management the we need to pull the trigger.

IMO the players have sussed he isn't up to it or just can't do what he wants.

He cannot be this bad, IMO he is trying to be so different to Warnock its almost a parody. Play to our strengths, up the pace work out the right back situation and try to win from the start........




I guess Eddie Howe is setting his sights on bigger clubs than us.



He certainly has lost the players, the performances have shown that plus their attitudes.

Throwing the players under the bus, he's gone when he does that.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:32 pm

He deserves better , he does need to sort his midfield look back on why we were so effective at the back-end of last season and build on that, we do have some dangerous pace it'd a pity Wilson has been injured and Tomlin isn't on his game they'd make such a difference alongside Ojo's pace and Moore 's danger in the box .

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:37 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Absolutely not!!!

Bunch of miserable and negative tw-ts on here. Give the man until we can no longer make the playoffs.

And start taking your medication again .



seriously ...wait until its impossible during our final year of parachute payments.. ?

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:41 pm

Not knee jerk but clearly needs to go. We need a leader not a platitude spouter

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:16 pm

I voted no and I'm not sure he has lost the dressing room, they certainly reacted after half time. Give him until xmas at least.