Over 7000 cases a day, it's spreading faster !!!

It's back a few days ago the Royal Glamorgan Hospital had 32 cases, now 84+ and 8 dead, it seems to spread much quicker in Hospital and care homes and that is with them being paranoid and extensive use of PPE, and constant cleaning.

Hopefully the existing measures are working and we will see a decline in a week or two, we certainly don't want too many more restrictions if we can help it?

And it is not anywhere near Winter yet, not much news about the Royal Glamorgan

It's back a few days ago the Royal Glamorgan Hospital had 32 cases, now 84+ and 8 dead, it seems to spread much quicker in Hospital and care homes and that is with them being paranoid and extensive use of PPE, and constant cleaning.

Hopefully the existing measures are working and we will see a decline in a week or two, we certainly don't want too many more restrictions if we can help it?

id imagine the people who are really bad end up in hospital..?

Yes, but its predominantly in the 17-21 age group, and its in clusters. Its more anyway due to limits on testing, which are higher per head than any other country of a larger population.

Yes, but its predominantly in the 17-21 age group, and its in clusters. Its more anyway due to limits on testing, which are higher per head than any other country of a larger population.

indeed, tested in a meat packers yesterday and found 170 positives... these people are not ill..not bad enough to buy a lemsip let alone take the thing....

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

we are going into winter when all similar illnesses rise..so this one will too.. its about what is acceptable and how many extra lives will be sacrificed or effected due to non treatments and no diagnosis should be the question... was completely swept under the carpet back in March when everyone paniced but needs addressing.. this isnt hide for a few months and all will be well.. its not well

There seems to be no media coverage of ages / health conditions of those who are dying in the second wave, completely unlike the coverage (particularly from the bbc) during the first wave. Does this mean that most are 80+ and or have current illnesses that add to the COVID?
There certainly doesn’t seem to be the widespread threat to everyone from all ages that we were seeing on the news back in March.

I would like to know the age profile of the people who were dying in the Royal Glamorgen. If they were on average say 86 and very fail it is likely that although covid carried them off it may be they would have died very soon anyway from one of the illnesses that carry off old frail people in hospital. The government seems to be keen not to say the average age or whether they had any other serious illness Of those currently dying.

There seems to be no media coverage of ages / health conditions of those who are dying in the second wave, completely unlike the coverage (particularly from the bbc) during the first wave. Does this mean that most are 80+ and or have current illnesses that add to the COVID?
There certainly doesn’t seem to be the widespread threat to everyone from all ages that we were seeing on the news back in March.

According to Boris and his two advisers yesterday, the increase in infections were initially in the younger age groups, but in recent days, more people in older age groups are becoming infected. This will eventually result in an increase in hospitalisation and possible deaths.
What also concerns me is the growing support of the anti-lockdown groups which we saw in London over last weekend. Not only were they gathering in large numbers without masks for the rally; they were being lectured to by people such as Jeremy Corbyn's brother, Piers along with the controversial David Icke and his son Gareth. If these people don't wish to take the vaccine if and when it arrives, I agree it should be their choice; but to brainwash the congregation into removing face coverings in all settings and do away with social distancing is criminal. These people truly believe that the lockdowns are all part of some 'alternative agenda' without explaining what can be gained by this.

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

we are going into winter when all similar illnesses rise..so this one will too.. its about what is acceptable and how many extra lives will be sacrificed or effected due to non treatments and no diagnosis should be the question... was completely swept under the carpet back in March when everyone paniced but needs addressing.. this isnt hide for a few months and all will be well.. its not well

Posted yesterday 1m women missing mammograms 9% waiting list risen.... elective surgery not started in lots places inc Cardiff! Waiting lists gone through the roof take 3hrs after pandemic is stopped...What people cannot see which I do as I travel to various hospitals is there is no facilities or are extremely limited to have outpatients in hospitals due to covid areas taking over the space... nhs is fcked for next year at least.

genuine question is there a way to find out if you previously had it ? as last novemeber i returned from america on holiday, all well and fine, a week later i was really ill. sick, coughing up blood lost an awful lot of weight, seen the doctor who sent me to hospital for xrays, blood testing etc, and then was told i was fine, it was pnuemonia ?

genuine question is there a way to find out if you previously had it ? as last novemeber i returned from america on holiday, all well and fine, a week later i was really ill. sick, coughing up blood lost an awful lot of weight, seen the doctor who sent me to hospital for xrays, blood testing etc, and then was told i was fine, it was pnuemonia ?

There was a lot of talk about antibody tests to see if people have had it, but nothing seems to have come of it yet?

It only really surfaced in China in January so, you almost certainly won't have caught it then, but you may have since, who knows?

Loads of people have said they had were ill at Christmas and early this year, it was some other sort of bug not covid back then, it's become like an urban myth that covid was around before it all came out from China.

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

I've seen a few reports that the latest measures are starting to work and are slowing it down, it always takes a few weeks to be sure, hopefully that will be the case and we can carry on as we are, the latest restrictions aren't really that bad compared to a full lockdown, you can still do a fair bit if you live in Cardiff.

I'm sorry but I had to say something about this scaremongering. Don't forget that 'cases' means people who have tested positive for the virus - not people who have become ill. So why call them cases? Also - some scientific research is pointing out that many of the tests are giving us a very high percentage of false positives. The rates of people dying or being hospitalised is very low and is not increasing at the same rate as 'cases': they have remained very, very low. So let's not get this out of proportion. Did you know that deaths from flu are much higher - at the moment - than deaths from Covid. Should we not be more concerned about the flu then? Have a look at this vid about the attacks on Richard Madely - like him or not - because he does not believe that further lockdowns will do any good. They won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOxo6w ... =HugoTalks The figures quoted regarding flu and Covid are official figures - have a look at them.

There are plenty of scientists out there, many of whom are petitioning governments here and in Europe to stop locking down- who believe lockdowns don't work; that they will cause many more thosands of deaths than Covid and are destroying peoples' health and livelihoods unnecessarily. Unless you do the research, you will continue to live in the dark - sorry to have to say this, but it is true. The MSM is not telling you the truth even though many involved in it may think they are. They are being poorly advised in the same way that the government is. If you want me to back up anything I have said or want any informtion about any aspect of this, please PM me. I don't want to spend hours providing information that people will simply ignore. Life is dangerous and at the moment most of us are more likely to die from a car accident than either Covid or flu.

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

I've seen a few reports that the latest measures are starting to work and are slowing it down, it always takes a few weeks to be sure, hopefully that will be the case and we can carry on as we are, the latest restrictions aren't really that bad compared to a full lockdown, you can still do a fair bit if you live in Cardiff.

Its basically stopping you going into other people's houses not sure what effect that as considering you can mingle with complete strangers in pubs all be with 1mtr distancing with mask! Unless of course you are extinction rebellion rabble who do what they like...

There seems to be no media coverage of ages / health conditions of those who are dying in the second wave, completely unlike the coverage (particularly from the bbc) during the first wave. Does this mean that most are 80+ and or have current illnesses that add to the COVID?
There certainly doesn’t seem to be the widespread threat to everyone from all ages that we were seeing on the news back in March.

According to Boris and his two advisers yesterday, the increase in infections were initially in the younger age groups, but in recent days, more people in older age groups are becoming infected. This will eventually result in an increase in hospitalisation and possible deaths.
What also concerns me is the growing support of the anti-lockdown groups which we saw in London over last weekend. Not only were they gathering in large numbers without masks for the rally; they were being lectured to by people such as Jeremy Corbyn's brother, Piers along with the controversial David Icke and his son Gareth. If these people don't wish to take the vaccine if and when it arrives, I agree it should be their choice; but to brainwash the congregation into removing face coverings in all settings and do away with social distancing is criminal. These people truly believe that the lockdowns are all part of some 'alternative agenda' without explaining what can be gained by this.

you need an explanation for what the agenda might be..
but accept an explanation that includes we best start locking down ..because 900 people died in the UK ..with and not necessarily of covid in the last 2 months... out of 80kplus that died of all causes in the last 2 months.. thats roughly 1 covid death out of every 90 deaths
or it not explained why a country has ruined its economy and health service for 40k deaths when we normally get over 600k a year..which translates to a village of 1700 pple that would ordinarily have 16/17 deaths a year might now have 1 more death..might because the 1 is most likely to be older than the age of life expectancy and have multiple illnesses and could well have been one of the original deaths anyway... the numbers are all online and all on government sites..
brainwashed for being able to count ? jeez .
keep mask wearing and keep scaremongering..

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

I've seen a few reports that the latest measures are starting to work and are slowing it down, it always takes a few weeks to be sure, hopefully that will be the case and we can carry on as we are, the latest restrictions aren't really that bad compared to a full lockdown, you can still do a fair bit if you live in Cardiff.

how about taking a broader view... its not just about you... had a txt yesterday from a fella that had 2 vehicles of mine parked up in his car park for the duration .. could i come see him... anyway i have to move them because he is finishing.. ive moved one and he gave me a number for someone that wants to buy the other ,which im doing .. so im not really effected other than a bit of inconvenience... he however will lose his business along with 8 jobs.. and will then have to negotiate his way out of a pretty long lease agreement , which will leave him up to his eyes in debt..i hearing this sort of crap everyday and nobody gives two hoots . as all is ok because u can go to tesco..

Waste of time trying to educate anybody mate. A lot think its a lie, some blame gov before looking at themselves and others are just Icke followers

Apparently its slowing down? Not sure difference between slowing down and rising cases but seems typical of misinformation bring put out....

I've seen a few reports that the latest measures are starting to work and are slowing it down, it always takes a few weeks to be sure, hopefully that will be the case and we can carry on as we are, the latest restrictions aren't really that bad compared to a full lockdown, you can still do a fair bit if you live in Cardiff.

how about taking a broader view... its not just about you... had a txt yesterday from a fella that had 2 vehicles of mine parked up in his car park for the duration .. could i come see him... anyway i have to move them because he is finishing.. ive moved one and he gave me a number for someone that wants to buy the other ,which im doing .. so im not really effected other than a bit of inconvenience... he however will lose his business along with 8 jobs.. and will then have to negotiate his way out of a pretty long lease agreement , which will leave him up to his eyes in debt..i hearing this sort of crap everyday and nobody gives two hoots . as all is ok because u can go to tesco..

True it's fine for me, but I appreciate we are all different and affected in different ways.

I can see all sides, it's an impossible job to keep everyone happy, the current restrictions aren't as bad for some business, but will prove the final blow for some. If we can stop the growth with the current measures, thats probably as good as we can get.

I know you're against vaccines, but without them plenty more business's will fail over the next twelve months, at least if most people take the vaccine the world will come back to some normally, but who knows time will tell?

I'm sorry but I had to say something about this scaremongering. Don't forget that 'cases' means people who have tested positive for the virus - not people who have become ill. So why call them cases? Also - some scientific research is pointing out that many of the tests are giving us a very high percentage of false positives. The rates of people dying or being hospitalised is very low and is not increasing at the same rate as 'cases': they have remained very, very low. So let's not get this out of proportion. Did you know that deaths from flu are much higher - at the moment - than deaths from Covid. Should we not be more concerned about the flu then? Have a look at this vid about the attacks on Richard Madely - like him or not - because he does not believe that further lockdowns will do any good. They won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOxo6w ... =HugoTalks The figures quoted regarding flu and Covid are official figures - have a look at them.

There are plenty of scientists out there, many of whom are petitioning governments here and in Europe to stop locking down- who believe lockdowns don't work; that they will cause many more thosands of deaths than Covid and are destroying peoples' health and livelihoods unnecessarily. Unless you do the research, you will continue to live in the dark - sorry to have to say this, but it is true. The MSM is not telling you the truth even though many involved in it may think they are. They are being poorly advised in the same way that the government is. If you want me to back up anything I have said or want any informtion about any aspect of this, please PM me. I don't want to spend hours providing information that people will simply ignore. Life is dangerous and at the moment most of us are more likely to die from a car accident than either Covid or flu.

Covid is being suppressed though with lockdowns and distancing measures, and quarantines, allow it to go unchecked and every graph in the World shows you how quickly it spreads, it puts more people in hospital ICU's and kills many more people.

Personally I don't like lockdowns although feel we had no choice with the last one, and hope we can suppress it with the 2nd wave with existing measures?

Richard Madely is a plonker I've thought he was a tool, I agree that the dangers are being exaggerated, but that is just to try and get more people to follow the measures and keep it under control.

Cases and hospital admissions now rising

After a steady decline since the first peak in April. confirmed coronavirus cases have been rising again since July, with the rate of growth increasing sharply from the end of August.

On Thursday, the country recorded 6,914 new cases - a slight decline from the last two days, when more than 7,000 new infections were confirmed each day.

I'm sorry but I had to say something about this scaremongering. Don't forget that 'cases' means people who have tested positive for the virus - not people who have become ill. So why call them cases? Also - some scientific research is pointing out that many of the tests are giving us a very high percentage of false positives. The rates of people dying or being hospitalised is very low and is not increasing at the same rate as 'cases': they have remained very, very low. So let's not get this out of proportion. Did you know that deaths from flu are much higher - at the moment - than deaths from Covid. Should we not be more concerned about the flu then? Have a look at this vid about the attacks on Richard Madely - like him or not - because he does not believe that further lockdowns will do any good. They won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOxo6w ... =HugoTalks The figures quoted regarding flu and Covid are official figures - have a look at them.

There are plenty of scientists out there, many of whom are petitioning governments here and in Europe to stop locking down- who believe lockdowns don't work; that they will cause many more thosands of deaths than Covid and are destroying peoples' health and livelihoods unnecessarily. Unless you do the research, you will continue to live in the dark - sorry to have to say this, but it is true. The MSM is not telling you the truth even though many involved in it may think they are. They are being poorly advised in the same way that the government is. If you want me to back up anything I have said or want any informtion about any aspect of this, please PM me. I don't want to spend hours providing information that people will simply ignore. Life is dangerous and at the moment most of us are more likely to die from a car accident than either Covid or flu.

its going to be very very difficult unbrainwashing people... will be shocked if anyone PMs you mate its almost as if people are content toi go around saying things like oh its terrible and repeating completely false info someone told them and..it is real my mates dad died of it...as if people have never died before ..

I'm sorry but I had to say something about this scaremongering. Don't forget that 'cases' means people who have tested positive for the virus - not people who have become ill. So why call them cases? Also - some scientific research is pointing out that many of the tests are giving us a very high percentage of false positives. The rates of people dying or being hospitalised is very low and is not increasing at the same rate as 'cases': they have remained very, very low. So let's not get this out of proportion. Did you know that deaths from flu are much higher - at the moment - than deaths from Covid. Should we not be more concerned about the flu then? Have a look at this vid about the attacks on Richard Madely - like him or not - because he does not believe that further lockdowns will do any good. They won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOxo6w ... =HugoTalks The figures quoted regarding flu and Covid are official figures - have a look at them.

There are plenty of scientists out there, many of whom are petitioning governments here and in Europe to stop locking down- who believe lockdowns don't work; that they will cause many more thosands of deaths than Covid and are destroying peoples' health and livelihoods unnecessarily. Unless you do the research, you will continue to live in the dark - sorry to have to say this, but it is true. The MSM is not telling you the truth even though many involved in it may think they are. They are being poorly advised in the same way that the government is. If you want me to back up anything I have said or want any informtion about any aspect of this, please PM me. I don't want to spend hours providing information that people will simply ignore. Life is dangerous and at the moment most of us are more likely to die from a car accident than either Covid or flu.

its going to be very very difficult unbrainwashing people... will be shocked if anyone PMs you mate its almost as if people are content toi go around saying things like oh its terrible and repeating completely false info someone told them and..it is real my mates dad died of it...as if people have never died before ..

You are so right. Generally, people believe what they want to believe - and once they are fixed on that, reason and facts are unlikely to pursuade them to change their minds. If people continue to use only the MSM to obtain 'information' then they will continue to be fearful in the dark. Have you ever heard of Plato's 'allegory of the cave''? If you haven't, Google it. I'm leaving this one alone - no point.

That is a good idea, leave well enough alone, we have enough conspiracy theories without you adding more!

I'm sorry but I had to say something about this scaremongering. Don't forget that 'cases' means people who have tested positive for the virus - not people who have become ill. So why call them cases? Also - some scientific research is pointing out that many of the tests are giving us a very high percentage of false positives. The rates of people dying or being hospitalised is very low and is not increasing at the same rate as 'cases': they have remained very, very low. So let's not get this out of proportion. Did you know that deaths from flu are much higher - at the moment - than deaths from Covid. Should we not be more concerned about the flu then? Have a look at this vid about the attacks on Richard Madely - like him or not - because he does not believe that further lockdowns will do any good. They won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOxo6w ... =HugoTalks The figures quoted regarding flu and Covid are official figures - have a look at them.

There are plenty of scientists out there, many of whom are petitioning governments here and in Europe to stop locking down- who believe lockdowns don't work; that they will cause many more thosands of deaths than Covid and are destroying peoples' health and livelihoods unnecessarily. Unless you do the research, you will continue to live in the dark - sorry to have to say this, but it is true. The MSM is not telling you the truth even though many involved in it may think they are. They are being poorly advised in the same way that the government is. If you want me to back up anything I have said or want any informtion about any aspect of this, please PM me. I don't want to spend hours providing information that people will simply ignore. Life is dangerous and at the moment most of us are more likely to die from a car accident than either Covid or flu.

its going to be very very difficult unbrainwashing people... will be shocked if anyone PMs you mate its almost as if people are content toi go around saying things like oh its terrible and repeating completely false info someone told them and..it is real my mates dad died of it...as if people have never died before ..

Donald Trumps got it now, it's going to affect the US elections, but it's not serious just like a bit of flu!

I'm sorry but I had to say something about this scaremongering. Don't forget that 'cases' means people who have tested positive for the virus - not people who have become ill. So why call them cases? Also - some scientific research is pointing out that many of the tests are giving us a very high percentage of false positives. The rates of people dying or being hospitalised is very low and is not increasing at the same rate as 'cases': they have remained very, very low. So let's not get this out of proportion. Did you know that deaths from flu are much higher - at the moment - than deaths from Covid. Should we not be more concerned about the flu then? Have a look at this vid about the attacks on Richard Madely - like him or not - because he does not believe that further lockdowns will do any good. They won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOxo6w ... =HugoTalks The figures quoted regarding flu and Covid are official figures - have a look at them.

There are plenty of scientists out there, many of whom are petitioning governments here and in Europe to stop locking down- who believe lockdowns don't work; that they will cause many more thosands of deaths than Covid and are destroying peoples' health and livelihoods unnecessarily. Unless you do the research, you will continue to live in the dark - sorry to have to say this, but it is true. The MSM is not telling you the truth even though many involved in it may think they are. They are being poorly advised in the same way that the government is. If you want me to back up anything I have said or want any informtion about any aspect of this, please PM me. I don't want to spend hours providing information that people will simply ignore. Life is dangerous and at the moment most of us are more likely to die from a car accident than either Covid or flu.

its going to be very very difficult unbrainwashing people... will be shocked if anyone PMs you mate its almost as if people are content toi go around saying things like oh its terrible and repeating completely false info someone told them and..it is real my mates dad died of it...as if people have never died before ..

Donald Trumps got it now, it's going to affect the US elections, but it's not serious just like a bit of flu!

i havent said that... and you know it....it was you claiming flu does not kill and just requires a lem sip... im fully aware of how dangerous both can be... but i am reasonable about it..
i dont get the scaremongering ?
are you genuinely terrified ? flying to kos first chance you hads suggests your not really..
or just want to scare people with numbers you hope they do not grasp ? 7k cases { not that not being ill should count as a case } but 7k... 7k a day might sound a big number but it would take about 25 years to infect everyone..

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

Exactly, if unchecked the virus would fly through the community like a knife through butter, just look at Spain and France, we want to follow Germany and Italy,and keep it under control until the vaccine!