Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:36 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:16 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:18 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:38 pm
skidemin wrote:they emptied hospital beds and wards country wide and threw millions on chucking up field hospitals everywhere ..which they did not use and are now de commissioning ? while still talking up a second wave... yet many are neither thinking they are not being told the truth...or up in arms over the decommissioning![]()
Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:56 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:10 pm
pembroke allan wrote:This is a question for drakeford as his expert yesterday was telling us all that 2nd wave is on it's way but meanwhile they are closing extra beds that was supposed to help nhs! Can only suspect wont be needed but not in their interest to tell joe public this..
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:17 pm
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:pembroke allan wrote:This is a question for drakeford as his expert yesterday was telling us all that 2nd wave is on it's way but meanwhile they are closing extra beds that was supposed to help nhs! Can only suspect wont be needed but not in their interest to tell joe public this..
Just doing what they are told.
Expert???
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:17 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:40 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:47 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:In my humble opinion...
Chances of an actual second wave of covid are zero.
Chances of a second lockdown based on false flag propaganda... 100%
Question is are enough people prepared to stand up for their liberty or will the masses continue to meekly obey?
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:52 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:53 pm
skidemin wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:In my humble opinion...
Chances of an actual second wave of covid are zero.
Chances of a second lockdown based on false flag propaganda... 100%
Question is are enough people prepared to stand up for their liberty or will the masses continue to meekly obey?
i did not agree with the first lock down but went along with the restrictions ..im out and protesting next time..
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:41 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:In my humble opinion...
Chances of an actual second wave of covid are zero.
Chances of a second lockdown based on false flag propaganda... 100%
Question is are enough people prepared to stand up for their liberty or will the masses continue to meekly obey?
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:45 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Question for Mr R. Coat (or anyone else that feels like chiming in)
I've recently come to a worrying thought I'm trying to work out.
Here in the UK the opposition to the Tories was so poor that we saw record victory in the last election giving the government an opportunity to do as they choose pretty much without restriction.
In the US it seems the democrats are doing almost everything in their power to throw the election. There is a massive potential for a red wave super majority in Novemeber.
Could it be that we are slowly being coerced across the west into one party systems to pave the way towards a true globalist agenda. Put such an abhorent opposition together that the the only sensible choice appears to be the saviour we are desperate for - so the are Boris and Trump trojan horses? Is this the perfect Hegalian dialectic?
I accept I'm pushing the tin foil hat of my avatar to its maximum here, but the insanity of the left seems far to coordinated and extreme to almost be believable.
Would be keen to here your thoughts on this?
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:41 pm
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:32 pm
skidemin wrote:they emptied hospital beds and wards country wide and threw millions on chucking up field hospitals everywhere ..which they did not use and are now de commissioning ? while still talking up a second wave... yet many are neither thinking they are not being told the truth...or up in arms over the decommissioning![]()
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:47 pm
skidemin wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Question for Mr R. Coat (or anyone else that feels like chiming in)
I've recently come to a worrying thought I'm trying to work out.
Here in the UK the opposition to the Tories was so poor that we saw record victory in the last election giving the government an opportunity to do as they choose pretty much without restriction.
In the US it seems the democrats are doing almost everything in their power to throw the election. There is a massive potential for a red wave super majority in Novemeber.
Could it be that we are slowly being coerced across the west into one party systems to pave the way towards a true globalist agenda. Put such an abhorent opposition together that the the only sensible choice appears to be the saviour we are desperate for - so the are Boris and Trump trojan horses? Is this the perfect Hegalian dialectic?
I accept I'm pushing the tin foil hat of my avatar to its maximum here, but the insanity of the left seems far to coordinated and extreme to almost be believable.
Would be keen to here your thoughts on this?
i will chime in... and ive not got a hat on..
but on the topic of opposition parties..... where are they ?
not everyone is on board with this restriction stuff , not even all scientists.. but opposition politicians everywhere are ?
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:31 am
skidemin wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:Question for Mr R. Coat (or anyone else that feels like chiming in)
I've recently come to a worrying thought I'm trying to work out.
Here in the UK the opposition to the Tories was so poor that we saw record victory in the last election giving the government an opportunity to do as they choose pretty much without restriction.
In the US it seems the democrats are doing almost everything in their power to throw the election. There is a massive potential for a red wave super majority in Novemeber.
Could it be that we are slowly being coerced across the west into one party systems to pave the way towards a true globalist agenda. Put such an abhorent opposition together that the the only sensible choice appears to be the saviour we are desperate for - so the are Boris and Trump trojan horses? Is this the perfect Hegalian dialectic?
I accept I'm pushing the tin foil hat of my avatar to its maximum here, but the insanity of the left seems far to coordinated and extreme to almost be believable.
Would be keen to here your thoughts on this?
i will chime in... and ive not got a hat on..
but on the topic of opposition parties..... where are they ?
not everyone is on board with this restriction stuff , not even all scientists.. but opposition politicians everywhere are ?
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:23 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:In my humble opinion...
Chances of an actual second wave of covid are zero.
Chances of a second lockdown based on false flag propaganda... 100%
Question is are enough people prepared to stand up for their liberty or will the masses continue to meekly obey?
True mate unfortunately.
Caerphilly locked down over an enormous 0.05% infection rate. Many of whom are showing absolutely no symptoms whatsoever. As I’ve said before, protect the old and unwell but otherwise let everyone get on wit’s their lives ffs.
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:07 am
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:58 am
JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!
PS. Suedehead !! What a read
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:40 am
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:57 am
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:If you want to watch a superb presentation of statistical analysis on the Covid 19 watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIF ... e=youtu.be
It's a bit long at 37 mins approx. but covers a huge amount. It is excellent.
What the man says is as roughly follows:
1. Mortality curve is normal curve for this type of virus
2. Excess deaths Europe-wide has been statistically low.
3. Excess number of seasonal deaths early in 2020 influenced by respiratory death rates in summer/flu -season in prior year i.e. the Covid spike caught people who would normally have died in that period so they were 'easily harvested.' Overall though the total numbers weren't hugely significant in statistical terms.
4. Mandatory masks and lockdowns have had no effective impact.
5. Current 'cases' focus is not an epidemic but a 'casedemic' which is a function of the increased testing with all the faults which the NYT article and others covered.
6. Should now be a reversion to normal seasonal respitory mortality curve.
7.The risk of a winter spring 20/21 spike would come through the attempts to stop normal evolution and acquisition and 'herd immunity' through the safe season through the summer which will have put the risky at greater risk. Who'd have thunk it?
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:32 pm
pembroke allan wrote:JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!
PS. Suedehead !! What a read
It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:44 pm
JulesK wrote:pembroke allan wrote:JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!
PS. Suedehead !! What a read
It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...
Hmmm never mind, that wasn't what I was getting at.
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:19 pm
pembroke allan wrote:JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!
PS. Suedehead !! What a read
It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:40 am
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!
PS. Suedehead !! What a read
It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...
correct and there are plenty who have lost loved ones through not having adequate medical attention who did not have a VIP death.... and thousands more to come, there was a doctor on the radio earlier saying his mum had been diagnosed of cancer 3 months TOO LATE... its criminal and any scientists or doctors speaking out...and there are many , are being swept under the carpet.. and kept out of MSM..
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:01 pm
Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!
PS. Suedehead !! What a read
It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...
correct and there are plenty who have lost loved ones through not having adequate medical attention who did not have a VIP death.... and thousands more to come, there was a doctor on the radio earlier saying his mum had been diagnosed of cancer 3 months TOO LATE... its criminal and any scientists or doctors speaking out...and there are many , are being swept under the carpet.. and kept out of MSM..
Opening up Doctors surgeries and hospitals is the responsibility of the NHS, while they are not inundated with Covid patients why haven't they opened up, it's not the government saying stop treatment is it.