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" Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:41 pm

I highly doubt this will happen anytime soon, so really just a hypothetical question.

But what would you vote if there is a referendum right now?

For me it would be to lose the Royal Family.

My family are supporters of them, and consider themselves Monarchists.

I, however am a republican.

Let's get rid of them.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:57 pm

Weigh up the cost and drama v disinterest. It's a go from me...particularly the 2nd tier like gay Andy and his kids and ginger Hewitt love child and his no mark bird

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:27 pm

Suggested by labour leader candidate says it all! Cant have referendum on Brexit deal so lets have one for royal family?
No royal family bang goes trooping colour no remembrance no SFA as wont have queen or king to participate in it! Musnt forget commonwealth either yea great idea by labour man... how about corbyn as president of the republic of Britain?. :lol:
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Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:27 pm

I luv em I do. A steady political ship. We’ve gone through a civil war centuries ago and this what was decided was best. I ain’t got a problem with them. There’s more pressing things to discuss, like football! It’s transfer window time so why aren’t we talking about footy, politics n footy don’t mix. Post it on another forum.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Suggested by labour leader candidate says it all! Cant have referendum on Brexit deal so lets have one for royal family?
No royal family bang goes trooping colour no remembrance no SFA as wont have queen or king to participate in it! Musnt forget commonwealth either yea great idea by labour man... how about corbyn as president of the republic of Britain?. :lol:


Yeah, see your point.

As a Labour member and campaigner, I will be devastated if Clive Lewis get the party leadership - this is just one small reason.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:32 pm

need Slade in to get rid of the dead wood and stable the ship.. otherwise their ok.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:40 pm

Why is a political activist promoting his views on a footy forum. It’s boring bra, keep it to footy or as chair of the airfix modellers club Kardiff division senior committee activist I’ll bore you to death with a referendum on whether Airfix or Revell should stay or go. Yawn yawn

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:50 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Suggested by labour leader candidate says it all! Cant have referendum on Brexit deal so lets have one for royal family?
No royal family bang goes trooping colour no remembrance no SFA as wont have queen or king to participate in it! Musnt forget commonwealth either yea great idea by labour man... how about corbyn as president of the republic of Britain?. :lol:


Yeah, see your point.

As a Labour member and campaigner, I will be devastated if Clive Lewis get the party leadership - this is just one small reason.



Ok Corbyn wont be president but seriously get rid of monarchy and you have to remove billions of ££££s in what visitors put into uk economy plus what happens to commonwealth nations? musnt forget she is head of state for several I believe so constitutional crises could destabilise them... much as it seems good idea in practice it's not as simple as a referendum? Make Brexit seem like a bucks house tea party .... :mrgreen:

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:17 pm

Yes, Pembroke Alan, but what does the British taxpayer see of it?
They are a drain on the British taxpayer and what have you got?
Prince Philip: complete racist and bonkers
Prince Charles: with the pixies most of the time
Princess Anne: Not the brightest, with some of the things she has done.
Prince Andrew: do i need to say anything?
And the rest of the hangers on? and you want to subside these millionaires?
Your having a giraffe. The Establishment are pissing themselves laughing at people like you.
These people have no morals, do not need the tax payers money but you think that we should continue to fill their boots.
They are taking the piss or cant/won't you see this is happening?

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:33 pm

spikeferndale wrote:Yes, Pembroke Alan, but what does the British taxpayer see of it?
They are a drain on the British taxpayer and what have you got?
Prince Philip: complete racist and bonkers
Prince Charles: with the pixies most of the time
Princess Anne: Not the brightest, with some of the things she has done.
Prince Andrew: do i need to say anything?
And the rest of the hangers on? and you want to subside these millionaires?
Your having a giraffe. The Establishment are pissing themselves laughing at people like you.
These people have no morals, do not need the tax payers money but you think that we should continue to fill their boots.
They are taking the piss or cant/won't you see this is happening?



Try reading what I put? Nowhere have I supported them I was just pointing out what would happen if they went! me I couldn't care less about them and their family problems.... but think you'd better ask hotels attractions and the hundreds of restaurants ect ect how they would manage without foreign and domestic tourists who come to see them! That's where the billions go to? So would say they make more for economy than they take out wouldn't you?... :thumbup:

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:38 pm

I have no particular view on this, but the last figures I saw said that the Royals cost each taxpayer less than £1 per anum. Small potatoes compared to the BBC television licence which is forced on us enabling them to spout their biased views to us at our own expense.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:23 pm

I’d get rid of the the Germans all day long.

How they have the nerve to be so rich, yet live off normal folk like us? It’s a medieval concept.

I’d much prefer my tax to go to the old lady in the valleys who struggles to heat her home, than the old lady who owns the entire Welsh seabed.

Also, the line about them paying for themselves is nonsense, they amount to less 1% of UK tourism and bring absolutely no money in to Wales. If we got rid, would people stop going to Buckingham Palace? Nope.

Scrap the scrounges now, it is the 21st century.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:47 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
spikeferndale wrote:Yes, Pembroke Alan, but what does the British taxpayer see of it?
They are a drain on the British taxpayer and what have you got?
Prince Philip: complete racist and bonkers
Prince Charles: with the pixies most of the time
Princess Anne: Not the brightest, with some of the things she has done.
Prince Andrew: do i need to say anything?
And the rest of the hangers on? and you want to subside these millionaires?
Your having a giraffe. The Establishment are pissing themselves laughing at people like you.
These people have no morals, do not need the tax payers money but you think that we should continue to fill their boots.
They are taking the piss or cant/won't you see this is happening?



Try reading what I put? Nowhere have I supported them I was just pointing out what would happen if they went! me I couldn't care less about them and their family problems.... but think you'd better ask hotels attractions and the hundreds of restaurants ect ect how they would manage without foreign and domestic tourists who come to see them! That's where the billions go to? So would say they make more for economy than they take out wouldn't you?... :thumbup:


I’m not the first person to make this point, but the queues for the palace of Versailles in Paris have not diminished despite the French getting rid of their ridiculous equivalent in 1789. I think the concept of a so called God ordained monarchy is medieval, an insult to the biblical notion of equality and must come to an end

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:00 am

I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:12 am

Through the Epstein affair Israeli secret service now control our royals... was that ever any different...?
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Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:25 am

They should go
Rule by blood line, how archaic.
Their not even british

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:35 am

Orgz wrote:They should go
Rule by blood line, how archaic.
Their not even british


I'm not a Royalist by a long way, but to be fair, ruling by bloodline is archaic which is probably why it is no longer done. The family rule nobody, and I imagine a lot of charities are glad they have various members as one of their patrons. Can find plenty of negative points about them, but to balance things out some of the positive work they have done ( eg.promoting the Invictus Games ) also needs to be mentioned.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:17 am

phildavies wrote:I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.

See Phil knows more then most he watches them at the U23 polo games

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:31 am

Surely just giving the millions they take from the tax payer for their extravagant lifestyles and get giving that straight to charities would make more sense. I cant relate to them. They do nothing for me.
Its the world of fantasy.

And their links to Nazi Germany etc

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:32 am

phildavies wrote:I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.



the last bit... those subsidies are not just given out to Dukes..and rewilded ..yep that's the idea..has zero to do with privilege or titles...

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:32 am

Llan_Blue wrote:
phildavies wrote:I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.

See Phil knows more then most he watches them at the U23 polo games


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Fair play!

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:48 am

Cardiff dyskinesia wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
spikeferndale wrote:Yes, Pembroke Alan, but what does the British taxpayer see of it?
They are a drain on the British taxpayer and what have you got?
Prince Philip: complete racist and bonkers
Prince Charles: with the pixies most of the time
Princess Anne: Not the brightest, with some of the things she has done.
Prince Andrew: do i need to say anything?
And the rest of the hangers on? and you want to subside these millionaires?
Your having a giraffe. The Establishment are pissing themselves laughing at people like you.
These people have no morals, do not need the tax payers money but you think that we should continue to fill their boots.
They are taking the piss or cant/won't you see this is happening?



Try reading what I put? Nowhere have I supported them I was just pointing out what would happen if they went! me I couldn't care less about them and their family problems.... but think you'd better ask hotels attractions and the hundreds of restaurants ect ect how they would manage without foreign and domestic tourists who come to see them! That's where the billions go to? So would say they make more for economy than they take out wouldn't you?... :thumbup:


I’m not the first person to make this point, but the queues for the palace of Versailles in Paris have not diminished despite the French getting rid of their ridiculous equivalent in 1789. I think the concept of a so called God ordained monarchy is medieval, an insult to the biblical notion of equality and must come to an end



so the world wide interest in our Royals has zero financial effect on anything ? all that coverage, all those crowds that turn up. all the mini series, films, documentaries, paparazzi following them around....means zero..
the much said ill thought out Versailles bit isn't a good example. people tend to visit tourist attractions where ever they visit. its the actual where they visit bit is where our royal family come in, not the attractions when people have come here..
on a smaller scale. a million foreign tourists visited a football ground last year...unheard and unimagined 25 years ago.. its because our football is now seen and in the public eye world wide..move the prem to Saudi and that growing interest in these grounds disappears..

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:11 pm

It’s funny how ignorant people are about what they do.

It’s usually the scruffy benefits claiming cunts who perk up the most as well.

They do a lot more and bring in a lot more for this country then Dave the carpet fitter down the pub who’s only jealous because that’s not his life.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:16 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
phildavies wrote:I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.

See Phil knows more then most he watches them at the U23 polo games



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:16 pm

In 2017 the Royal family cost the tax payer £41.9m. This would be equivalent of approx £41.90 per household per year. This has risen to £67 per household in 2019.

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In 2017 the royal family generated approximately £1.8bn to the UK economy.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:29 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:In 2017 the Royal family cost the tax payer £41.9m. This would be equivalent of approx £41.90 per household per year. This has risen to £67 per household in 2019.

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In 2017 the royal family generated approximately £1.8bn to the UK economy.


Forty odd million adults in the UK, so based on the figure of £41.9m that equates to every adult forking out £1 per year although most reports suggest 65p per taxpayer per anum.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:30 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:In 2017 the Royal family cost the tax payer £41.9m. This would be equivalent of approx £41.90 per household per year. This has risen to £67 per household in 2019.

...

In 2017 the royal family generated approximately £1.8bn to the UK economy.

Mate don’t let facts get in the way of things unless people aren’t working 9-5 or on a building site there not real grafters and they don’t earn a real living.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:31 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:In 2017 the Royal family cost the tax payer £41.9m. This would be equivalent of approx £41.90 per household per year. This has risen to £67 per household in 2019.

...

In 2017 the royal family generated approximately £1.8bn to the UK economy.

Mate don’t let facts get in the way of things unless people aren’t working 9-5 or on a building site there not real grafters and they don’t earn a real living.


I don't work 9-5 or on a building site.

I stated facts.

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:34 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:In 2017 the Royal family cost the tax payer £41.9m. This would be equivalent of approx £41.90 per household per year. This has risen to £67 per household in 2019.

...

In 2017 the royal family generated approximately £1.8bn to the UK economy.

Mate don’t let facts get in the way of things unless people aren’t working 9-5 or on a building site there not real grafters and they don’t earn a real living.


I don't work 9-5 or on a building site.

I stated facts.

I no I’m agreeing with you ffs :lol:

Re: " Referendum on the Royal Family "

Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:44 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:In 2017 the Royal family cost the tax payer £41.9m. This would be equivalent of approx £41.90 per household per year. This has risen to £67 per household in 2019.

...

In 2017 the royal family generated approximately £1.8bn to the UK economy.

Mate don’t let facts get in the way of things unless people aren’t working 9-5 or on a building site there not real grafters and they don’t earn a real living.


I don't work 9-5 or on a building site.

I stated facts.

I no I’m agreeing with you ffs :lol:


Too used to replying to HRH Lord Detective Sharon Pikachu, Protector of the Galaxy, font of all knowledge, MBE, KGB, casual clothes Roathie.

Sorry mate.