TRANSFER WINDOW IS OPEN ?

IMO If it seems apparent to harris that we need to shake up the squad there appears to be no urgency in moving players out to get players in quickly, are we going to be doing the usual and leaving it another few weeks till the end of the window to see whats in the bargain basement,
and if its loan deals only we are going to be dealing with, surely it would cost the same now, rather than waitING till the end of the January window with more choice available to us now before all the better players move on to rivals.

IMO If it seems apparent to harris that we need to shake up the squad there appears to be no urgency in moving players out to get players in quickly, are we going to be doing the usual and leaving it another few weeks till the end of the window to see whats in the bargain basement,
and if its loan deals only we are going to be dealing with, surely it would cost the same now, rather than waitING till the end of the January window with more choice available to us now before all the better players move on to rivals.

Harris said yesterday that nothing is close at the moment but not sure if he means going out or coming in.

January window is a notoriously difficult time for getting players in and out but you're right it would be nice to see movement
early in the window. In fairness to Harris he did say there may be some in before the Swansea game but that's only a week away now.

What seems obvious is that we need to freshen up the squad and team sooner rather than later.

Club should spend just a bit to get in couple of loan players especially in the important areas like midfield and defence? It's no good fans saying not ready for promotion fck that the whole aim in football is to win promotion! Couple aditions could make all the difference this season, come end season NH should know what us required to push for promotion next season and thats where tan should back him or have club stagnate middle to lower end of championship or dare I say risk relegation because thats what happens with no real investment in team...

Club should spend just a bit to get in couple of loan players especially in the important areas like midfield and defence? It's no good fans saying not ready for promotion fck that the whole aim in football is to win promotion! Couple aditions could make all the difference this season, come end season NH should know what us required to push for promotion next season and thats where tan should back him or have club stagnate middle to lower end of championship or dare I say risk relegation because thats what happens with no real investment in team...

And there you've hit the nail on the head - Tan in my opinion has no problem with us being in the middle or lower end of the Championship whilst he recoups as much of his investment as he can. If it looked like we were going to be relegated then that would change as it did when it looked like Trollope was taking us down.

The club was lucky last time that the ideal man to turn things around was available in Neil Warnock who brought the completely unexpected bonus of the Premier League.

Also I'm not sure I agree that Harris should know what is required to push for promotion next season - he's never been in that position in this division before.

Club should spend just a bit to get in couple of loan players especially in the important areas like midfield and defence? It's no good fans saying not ready for promotion fck that the whole aim in football is to win promotion! Couple aditions could make all the difference this season, come end season NH should know what us required to push for promotion next season and thats where tan should back him or have club stagnate middle to lower end of championship or dare I say risk relegation because thats what happens with no real investment in team...

And there you've hit the nail on the head - Tan in my opinion has no problem with us being in the middle or lower end of the Championship whilst he recoups as much of his investment as he can. If it looked like we were going to be relegated then that would change as it did when it looked like Trollope was taking us down.

The club was lucky last time that the ideal man to turn things around was available in Neil Warnock who brought the completely unexpected bonus of the Premier League.

Also I'm not sure I agree that Harris should know what is required to push for promotion next season - he's never been in that position in this division before.

Trouble is like said dont invest and run risk relegation and changing manager to try avoid this is also a risk got lucky with NW may not be so lucky next time! Anyway summer will see what NH is made off and come start season maybe have idea if got chance for top 6 finish? Expecting us to go up this season was never realistic as history shows no one goes straight back up only 1 team as done it in 8yrs.....

PEMBROKE ALLAN

Are you sure harris is still going go be with us in the summer? according to a lot of fans he could be on his way after swansea,imo i think he will still be with us but maybe only till the end of the season its a shame its seems to be breaking down between fans, at least with warnock we all seemed to be together for a few seasons,
but i personally was not happy with his rushed appointment and a lot of fans have been split from the start.

Club should spend just a bit to get in couple of loan players especially in the important areas like midfield and defence? It's no good fans saying not ready for promotion fck that the whole aim in football is to win promotion! Couple aditions could make all the difference this season, come end season NH should know what us required to push for promotion next season and thats where tan should back him or have club stagnate middle to lower end of championship or dare I say risk relegation because thats what happens with no real investment in team...

And there you've hit the nail on the head - Tan in my opinion has no problem with us being in the middle or lower end of the Championship whilst he recoups as much of his investment as he can. If it looked like we were going to be relegated then that would change as it did when it looked like Trollope was taking us down.

The club was lucky last time that the ideal man to turn things around was available in Neil Warnock who brought the completely unexpected bonus of the Premier League.

Also I'm not sure I agree that Harris should know what is required to push for promotion next season - he's never been in that position in this division before.

Club should spend just a bit to get in couple of loan players especially in the important areas like midfield and defence? It's no good fans saying not ready for promotion fck that the whole aim in football is to win promotion! Couple aditions could make all the difference this season, come end season NH should know what us required to push for promotion next season and thats where tan should back him or have club stagnate middle to lower end of championship or dare I say risk relegation because thats what happens with no real investment in team...

And there you've hit the nail on the head - Tan in my opinion has no problem with us being in the middle or lower end of the Championship whilst he recoups as much of his investment as he can. If it looked like we were going to be relegated then that would change as it did when it looked like Trollope was taking us down.

The club was lucky last time that the ideal man to turn things around was available in Neil Warnock who brought the completely unexpected bonus of the Premier League.

Also I'm not sure I agree that Harris should know what is required to push for promotion next season - he's never been in that position in this division before.

Spot on. Its clear that Tan has done the maths and worked out that he can get probably get 40 -50 million of the payment back in the next two years and still have a side that can compete for mid table to play off outsiders. Or he can use the money for a promotion push. Looks like he has chosen the former and from a business point of view you cant blame him.

PEMBROKE ALLAN

Are you sure harris is still going go be with us in the summer? according to a lot of fans he could be on his way after swansea,imo i think he will still be with us but maybe only till the end of the season its a shame its seems to be breaking down between fans, at least with warnock we all seemed to be together for a few seasons,
but i personally was not happy with his rushed appointment and a lot of fans have been split from the start.

Who knows if he will be here then but suspect he will be at start season at least! As far as I'm concerned a manager is a manager nw was always a temporary appt history tells you he does a job 2/3yrs then goes, now hes devided fans with what he left and sighned in players! NH is same be here until he goes good or bad!

1. You need teams to want the players
2. You need the players to be willing to move on (contracts etc)
3. This is not FIFA 20

1. You need teams to want the players
2. You need the players to be willing to move on (contracts etc)
3. This is not FIFA 20

Said this many times easy sitting here and say get him and him ect ect same goes for manager. NH like every other manage/owner they deal in real world....

BAMBA CREW

Its the same postion for all championship clubs we and they know its not fifa 20 its a level playing field it depends on who you have dealing.

BAMBA CREW

Its the same postion for all championship clubs we and they know its not fifa 20 its a level playing field it depends on who you have dealing.

Same? It appears some have more money to pay top players and managers through doubtful means! You name any player in uk that gets wages paid by a company other than Rooney? Legit I know but stretching rules on 3rd party ownership of player which is banned....

BAMBA CREW

Its the same postion for all championship clubs we and they know its not fifa 20 its a level playing field it depends on who you have dealing.

Monty, it’s not level at all.
I’ve told you many times as have many others it’s not like going to Tesco and picking what you want off a shelf.

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Yes you do seem to tell me many times about my opinions, but you seem to know how it all works,so we are unique in the championship ?, give me some credit i know its not like tesco my point is that other clubs seem to do buisness and we over the past few years drag our feet when the transfer window is open, i was niavly thinking we could do some early dealings such is the urgency according to the manager and a few fans, but i shall not comment any further and bow to your better judgement on these matters and get back when the tranfer window closses see you next sunday.

ORIGINAL GRANGE END BLUE

Yes you do seem to tell me many times about my opinions, but you seem to know how it all works,so we are unique in the championship ?, give me some credit i know its not like tesco my point is that other clubs seem to do buisness and we over the past few years drag our feet when the transfer window is open, i was niavly thinking we could do some early dealings such is the urgency according to the manager and a few fans, but i shall not comment any further and bow to your better judgement on these matters and get back when the tranfer window closses see you next sunday.

Mate, I DO know how it works but my judgement is the same as yours. I would also love to see players come in and go out early in the window rather than late but sometimes it just doesn’t work like that.

Do you think we’re the only club like this? Look at the transfer melee on the last day to see that we are certainly not unique.

I know that Harris and the club will be busy trying to get the work done so I have patience. There’s no other way mate.

Yes, I’ll be there next Sunday but I’m not looking forward to it like I have in most other derby games!

IMO If it seems apparent to harris that we need to shake up the squad there appears to be no urgency in moving players out to get players in quickly, are we going to be doing the usual and leaving it another few weeks till the end of the window to see whats in the bargain basement,
and if its loan deals only we are going to be dealing with, surely it would cost the same now, rather than waitING till the end of the January window with more choice available to us now before all the better players move on to rivals.

I don't understand what you mean by no urgency moving players out..
its not throw them in the boot and drive them down the tip, they have contracts , live here , have families.. you can try telling player x he has to go to boro for 6 months. but he can tell you to F.off.
there has to be an interested club that is prepared to cover the contract or enough of it to make it worthwhile for ourselves.. plus the player has to fancy it... all our club can do is tell player x and his agent we are willing / would prefer for him to go out on loan. inform other clubs and wait..
all clubs are in this position..and the best players don't go on day 1 ,the next best on day2 etc until you get crap on deadline day...we had camarasa and arter on deadline day last year

DOGFOUND

do all other clubs in the championship have to go through this process or just cardiff? We all know the jan window is coming the manager the board of all clubs its just some clubs move quicker than others that's all i am saying and we more than many need to do a lot of work moving players in and out and harris has said a few weeks back what he wanted to do, i was just hoping we might have had some movement be it in's and out's due to the position we find ourselves in sooner rather than later.

DOGFOUND

do all other clubs in the championship have to go through this process or just cardiff? We all know the jan window is coming the manager the board of all clubs its just some clubs move quicker than others that's all i am saying and we more than many need to do a lot of work moving players in and out and harris has said a few weeks back what he wanted to do, i was just hoping we might have had some movement be it in's and out's due to the position we find ourselves in sooner rather than later.

or just Cardiff ? no mate players at other clubs have lives, families and opinions to. I honestly cant get my head around people { not just you } talking about players as if they are sort of slaves..
anyway to date 4 players have been loaned to 4 different championship clubs... and 4 players have been loaned out by championship clubs.. no transfers.

Of all the clubs to prove my point about moving early in the transfer window it had to be swans, how many people on this forum have said for the last few seasons we have been sh.t in the transfer window its because we are to slow in moving for what we need.

Of all the clubs to prove my point about moving early in the transfer window it had to be swans, how many people on this forum have said for the last few seasons we have been sh.t in the transfer window its because we are to slow in moving for what we need.

What point are you proving? Swans sighn a part time reserve youngster from liverpool is that a fantastic signing would you be happy if we got similar? As pointed above and what I eluded to before only 4 clubs have made signings what about other 18 clubs are they slow getting players ..... as for moving for right players mmmmm are they available and will they come here if they were?

Of all the clubs to prove my point about moving early in the transfer window it had to be swans, how many people on this forum have said for the last few seasons we have been sh.t in the transfer window its because we are to slow in moving for what we need.

What point are you proving? Swans sighn a part time reserve youngster from liverpool is that a fantastic signing would you be happy if we got similar? As pointed above and what I eluded to before only 4 clubs have made signings what about other 18 clubs are they slow getting players ..... as for moving for right players mmmmm are they available and will they come here if they were?

Good post.

PEMVROKE ALLAN

my point is the early movment in the window rather than another 3 games down the rd before a move is made, we now what we want and who has to go a month ago or more , swans have deemed what they want and have gone for him and if you watched those youngsters rip everton apart last week you can see why,
it would be nice if we had youngsters coming through but that's another topic.

Of all the clubs to prove my point about moving early in the transfer window it had to be swans, how many people on this forum have said for the last few seasons we have been sh.t in the transfer window its because we are to slow in moving for what we need.

absolutely pointless trying to explain...
yes that proves your point fair play, we are too slow , players are slaves, well done you .

PEMVROKE ALLAN

my point is the early movment in the window rather than another 3 games down the rd before a move is made, we now what we want and who has to go a month ago or more , swans have deemed what they want and have gone for him and if you watched those youngsters rip everton apart last week you can see why,
it would be nice if we had youngsters coming through but that's another topic.

Swans got two good strikers so guess one is on way out so they're going for cheap replacement option! You only get players you need and become available, are there suitable players available now for us? Or do we sighn any Tom dick and arry just to say we sighned someone? Your not on fifa 20 signing players for your team..

PEMBROKE ALLAN
No you don' t sign for the sake but you earmark what yor after long before the window opens and keep track what is and what might be available.

PEMBROKE ALLAN
No you don' t sign for the sake but you earmark what yor after long before the window opens and keep track what is and what might be available.

Yes you do ......but what do you do if potential
players are not available now?

PEMBROKE ALLAN
No you don' t sign for the sake but you earmark what yor after long before the window opens and keep track what is and what might be available.

and how exactly have you come to the conclusion that did not happen..?

PEMBROKE ALLAN
No you don' t sign for the sake but you earmark what yor after long before the window opens and keep track what is and what might be available.

and how exactly have you come to the conclusion that did not happen..?

Not sure what he expects? Yes city look for potential players to sighn in designated positions, but can only sighn them if available or when they do become available Until then how can we sighn anyone? Other post regarding Brewster asked would he take him here and he comes out with yes instead of madine!! A player not in our 1st 11 squad?

OP sums up perfectly what is wrong with this board

No clue when it comes to the real world of football

As someone rightly pointed out this window is not easy and players are only able to move if A they want to B a club is interested and C if the contract suits the player and the fee or no fee suits the club

It’s not as simple as thanks mate good luck off you go if it was there would be free agents everywhere clubs don’t want to part with players by just paying up their contracts for fucks sake

People also forget our promotion/relegation could mean some
Players are on inflated contracts and would have to take wage cuts to move would you? I f*cking wouldn’t when I can sit on the bench twiddling my thumbs for 10k more than playing regularly somewhere in the lower leagues

Get a grip of reality please

And the person who said tan is just recouping his money find me a set of club accounts where he has taken a penny of his investment back please????

As I said before relegation costs money and a lot of it parachute payments barley break the camels back hence why most clubs have to cut cloth not splash out