3 points off the playoffs

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

It is unbelievable we are only three points, though an inferior goal difference, from sixth.

It is unbelievable we are only three points, though an inferior goal difference, from sixth.

It's a reflection of how poor the league is this season rather than anything positive that we've done.

We are 3 points off the 6th team...5 points off the 5th team so it’s starting to get further away despite the points difference to 6th reasoning the same

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

What a stupid thing to say after VT wrote off £68M recently. Have a work with yourself Davids

Can't blame Harris for any of this, Warnock walked out knowing the squad wasn't up to a promotion push. He spent the best part of 60 million on average players, Flynt being the most average of them all.

Harris is going to have ho rebuild the squad on a shoe string relying on free transfers and loan players. I think Harris is going to need 2 or 3 windows to get rid of the dead wood and bring in his own players.

The reason we are still in with a chance of the playoffs is apart from the top 2 this is a very average league.

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

What a stupid thing to say after VT wrote off £68M recently. Have a work with yourself Davids

In the 50 odd years I have been following this club, Tan is one of those rare owners who has actually been prepared to take a gamble and pump some serious cash into the club. I seem to recall Rick Wright having a crack as well, but the last decade has been on a different level.

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

What a stupid thing to say after VT wrote off £68M recently. Have a work with yourself Davids

In the 50 odd years I have been following this club, Tan is one of those rare owners who has actually been prepared to take a gamble and pump some serious cash into the club. I seem to recall Rick Wright having a crack as well, but the last decade has been on a different level.

Absolutely correct

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

Doesn’t happen often mate but have to agree with you 100% on this.

Pathetic comment from David’s who often fails to grasp the obvious.

Let's get this straight.

I agree that Tan is the best owner we have had in the 50 years I have followed the club.
Without him I am certain Ridsdale would have taken us into administration or worse.
He paid off all of the clubs creditors and dealt with that shyster Hammam
He has put millions of his own money into the club and has written off large amounts of debts.
He is a man of his word and will not walk away and leave us in the shit.

But it is my opinion (and I may well be wrong) that he has lost any interest in the future of the club other than getting into a position where he can get rid of it.

We never hear from him, we never see him at games. His representatives (Dalman and Choo) display little evidence of any real knowledge of the footballing side of the club. We have no idea of their short, medium or long term plans for the club.

Dalman says that we are looking to change the playing style at the club and then they appoint a manager who has always played in the same way as his predecessor. They say that we are going to give it a real go at promotion but expect it to be done with a squad that isn't good enough. They want 35 shots on goal every game.

If Tan is intending to make us sustainable when exactly when will that be? When we have no debts?

Very laudable and nobody would argue against that - not even me despite what you all may think.

But what happens then? How does Tan plan to do that? And when we are "sustainable" is there any point in him being involved any more? Will he then loosen the purse strings and no longer require managers to work under "cost cutting" restrictions?

As I have said, in my opinion and it is just an opinion, he wants out. If he could get a buyer tomorrow he would go and until that time he will keep the club running as he is an honourable man but he whilst of course he would love to see us promoted again he won't be making any financial commitment to assist in that aim, either by appointing a suitable manager or supporting his manager in changing the playing staff.

And that's fair enough - it's his club and his money. But for me personally I cannot see how the club can truly progress until we get new owners.

And that in itself can bring a whole raft of new problems - as we know there are many many owners out there who are much much worse than Tan!

Let's get this straight.

I agree that Tan is the best owner we have had in the 50 years I have followed the club.
Without him I am certain Ridsdale would have taken us into administration or worse.
He paid off all of the clubs creditors and dealt with that shyster Hammam
He has put millions of his own money into the club and has written off large amounts of debts.
He is a man of his word and will not walk away and leave us in the shit.

But it is my opinion (and I may well be wrong) that he has lost any interest in the future of the club other than getting into a position where he can get rid of it.

We never hear from him, we never see him at games. His representatives (Dalman and Choo) display little evidence of any real knowledge of the footballing side of the club. We have no idea of their short, medium or long term plans for the club.

Dalman says that we are looking to change the playing style at the club and then they appoint a manager who has always played in the same way as his predecessor. They say that we are going to give it a real go at promotion but expect it to be done with a squad that isn't good enough. They want 35 shots on goal every game.

If Tan is intending to make us sustainable when exactly when will that be? When we have no debts?

Very laudable and nobody would argue against that - not even me despite what you all may think.

But what happens then? How does Tan plan to do that? And when we are "sustainable" is there any point in him being involved any more? Will he then loosen the purse strings and no longer require managers to work under "cost cutting" restrictions?

As I have said, in my opinion and it is just an opinion, he wants out. If he could get a buyer tomorrow he would go and until that time he will keep the club running as he is an honourable man but he whilst of course he would love to see us promoted again he won't be making any financial commitment to assist in that aim, either by appointing a suitable manager or supporting his manager in changing the playing staff.

And that's fair enough - it's his club and his money. But for me personally I cannot see how the club can truly progress until we get new owners.

And that in itself can bring a whole raft of new problems - as we know there are many many owners out there who are much much worse than Tan!

yes we would all like to be man city...
I really agree with the line...….I cannot see how the club can truly progress etc
but I think most peoples counter weight to that is we have never had anyone with Tans sort of money remotely interested in our club...and the most likely new owners will be when the club is sold cheaply to the Kumar brothers mk2..

It is unbelievable we are only three points, though an inferior goal difference, from sixth.

Spot On and No Easy Games In The Championship

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

Doesn’t happen often mate but have to agree with you 100% on this.

Pathetic comment from David’s who often fails to grasp the obvious.

Maybe you should agree with me more?

Happy New Year.

It is unbelievable we are only three points, though an inferior goal difference, from sixth.

Spot On and No Easy Games In The Championship

Change the record, wasn’t funny the first time you said it.

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

He was cheap and he was available. Both of which were vital to an owner who has little interest in the club beyond recouping as much of his investment as he can.

Recouping his investment??

Piss off mate he’s never getting his money back. He is making us sustainable.

Always Tan that gets it when things start to go badly. It’s bullshit.

Doesn’t happen often mate but have to agree with you 100% on this.

Pathetic comment from David’s who often fails to grasp the obvious.

Maybe you should agree with me more?

Happy New Year.

I’ll try but I can’t promise.

It is unbelievable we are only three points, though an inferior goal difference, from sixth.

Spot On and No Easy Games In The Championship

championship most competitive league in england and most entertaining by a huge mile anyone can beat anyone which for me makes it more exciting of a prospect

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

someone said , is where it went wrong for that person....anyone that's watched football for 5 minutes knows how wrong it can go no more so than your lot...
as for parachute payments , we were receiving them the year we went up so its a status quo..

Unbelievable to think how bad we have been and we are only 3 points behind Millwall after today . Just goes to show this league is poor this year and we are blowing a massive opportunity to bounce straight back up .

Get rid of Harris now and we have a chance I cant see how anybody could let him organise this transfer window whether we have money to spend or not. He was ever the right guy at the start and hes not the right guy now

Every year, it's a poor League this year, when in fact the standard goes up and clubs and players advance in training and fitness and make improvements in-game management and the use of technology,

We had a very similar team that came a close 2nd to Wolves, it's not a weak league, it's a lot better than it was two seasons ago that is why we are 12th, not 2nd.

The main point though is anyone can beat anyone, and the overall standard has improved, but 6th and above is definitely achievable if we can sort trh3e defence and get a bit of consistency.

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

someone said , is where it went wrong for that person....anyone that's watched football for 5 minutes knows how wrong it can go no more so than your lot...
as for parachute payments , we were receiving them the year we went up so its a status quo..

Could write a book on our going wrongs m8 but you guys had the same premium players didn't you ? I said on here once after you signed warnock as manager that he would be the ruin of you he nearly killed us tbh..

Let's get this straight.

I agree that Tan is the best owner we have had in the 50 years I have followed the club.
Without him I am certain Ridsdale would have taken us into administration or worse.
He paid off all of the clubs creditors and dealt with that shyster Hammam
He has put millions of his own money into the club and has written off large amounts of debts.
He is a man of his word and will not walk away and leave us in the shit.

But it is my opinion (and I may well be wrong) that he has lost any interest in the future of the club other than getting into a position where he can get rid of it.

We never hear from him, we never see him at games. His representatives (Dalman and Choo) display little evidence of any real knowledge of the footballing side of the club. We have no idea of their short, medium or long term plans for the club.

Dalman says that we are looking to change the playing style at the club and then they appoint a manager who has always played in the same way as his predecessor. They say that we are going to give it a real go at promotion but expect it to be done with a squad that isn't good enough. They want 35 shots on goal every game.

If Tan is intending to make us sustainable when exactly when will that be? When we have no debts?

Very laudable and nobody would argue against that - not even me despite what you all may think.

But what happens then? How does Tan plan to do that? And when we are "sustainable" is there any point in him being involved any more? Will he then loosen the purse strings and no longer require managers to work under "cost cutting" restrictions?

As I have said, in my opinion and it is just an opinion, he wants out. If he could get a buyer tomorrow he would go and until that time he will keep the club running as he is an honourable man but he whilst of course he would love to see us promoted again he won't be making any financial commitment to assist in that aim, either by appointing a suitable manager or supporting his manager in changing the playing staff.

And that's fair enough - it's his club and his money. But for me personally I cannot see how the club can truly progress until we get new owners.

And that in itself can bring a whole raft of new problems - as we know there are many many owners out there who are much much worse than Tan!

Yes like Swansea's owners that are just in it for an investment, I believe that when Tan does leave we will go downhill fast, personally I can't see us getting a better owner!

Yes, he has made some mistakes, but he is slowly getting the club back to basics and more self-sufficient, but we know he has the money to help when things go wrong, such as a loan or some debt to equity for the Sala transfer while waiting to see if we can claim from any insurers for the negligence or loss, and those type of event's that would have crippled us in the past!

We may be still 3 points off the 6th position (4 points really) but we are now falling behind the others within that pack meaning we are almost at the back of the queue of 6 clubs looking to take that last playoff spot as things stand.

In other words it may be 3 points but we could win our next 2 /3?games and still not be in the top 6

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

Anyone who knows championship know that only one club as successfully gone straight back up after relegation in past 10yrs or so? That's Newcastle and they kept their entire premier squad and added to it to achieve it. If by miracle we do it that will be possibly clubs best achievement outside fa cup win.

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

I think we may have to keep some cash back for the Sala transfer?

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

Anyone who knows championship know that only one club as successfully gone straight back up after relegation in past 10yrs or so? That's Newcastle and they kept their entire premier squad and added to it to achieve it. If by miracle we do it that will be possibly clubs best achievement outside fa cup win.

Didn't Burnley do it too?

I agree it's rare though and many fans from relegated teams think they will walk the League, but very few do!

We may be still 3 points off the 6th position (4 points really) but we are now falling behind the others within that pack meaning we are almost at the back of the queue of 6 clubs looking to take that last playoff spot as things stand.

In other words it may be 3 points but we could win our next 2 /3?games and still not be in the top 6

Harris had a tough fixture list, Warnock had a relatively easy start to the season and we were still off the pace.

QPR A
Sheffield Wed A
Millwall H
Preston H
Leeds A
Brentford A

Five of the last six were above us in the League on of those we only lost to Brentford away!

Four away games in the last six it's been a tough run, keep the faith he will sort that defence out i'm sure of that and he will have Morrison and Bennet and Peltier back in with Nelson.

Hopefully, Ralls will be back to we've missed him!

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

someone said , is where it went wrong for that person....anyone that's watched football for 5 minutes knows how wrong it can go no more so than your lot...
as for parachute payments , we were receiving them the year we went up so its a status quo..

Could write a book on our going wrongs m8 but you guys had the same premium players didn't you ? I said on here once after you signed warnock as manager that he would be the ruin of you he nearly killed us tbh..

had a chat with 2 of your ST holders pre season who both thought we were nailed on for one of the 2 autos...I strongly disagreed. we had lost 3 first choice midfield players. manga who is class, bamba long term injured and Zohore who led the line to promotion...its too many. I believe continuity is big in this division and its a 2 year fix after a revolving door window not a 1 year fix..

Not having a dig lads but at start of new season a poster on here proudly said we'll walk this league with this squad that narrowly got relegated from the prem plus with the parachute payments it's a forgone conclusion your back up b4 season had kicked off my question is this where has it gone wrong and why can you not use the parachute cash?

someone said , is where it went wrong for that person....anyone that's watched football for 5 minutes knows how wrong it can go no more so than your lot...
as for parachute payments , we were receiving them the year we went up so its a status quo..

Could write a book on our going wrongs m8 but you guys had the same premium players didn't you ? I said on here once after you signed warnock as manager that he would be the ruin of you he nearly killed us tbh..

Warnock the ruin of us? Couldn’t be further from the truth.